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Hi xosonova96, would you mind if I asked you a few questions regarding your stats before acceptance into the SMP?
sure just message me and i can talk to you more about my stats!
Hi xosonova96, would you mind if I asked you a few questions regarding your stats before acceptance into the SMP?
I would be curious as well.Hi xosonova96, would you mind if I asked you a few questions regarding your stats before acceptance into the SMP?
It's more of an academic enhancer in regards to GPA. Why waste thousands and thousands of dollars when you can take a few more months to study for the MCAT. Analyze why you're not improving as much as you'd like to. Follow some good MCAT social media for some tips and tricks, such as MCAT Bros on Instagram, or Dr. Ryan Gray podcasts. I just think you'd be wasting a lot of money when your GPA is already amazing.Would anyone recommend this program for someone with a 3.95, 3 MCAT retakes (503, 506,507)?
I know its usually for people to work on improving their GPA, however I feel like my academic abilities are being questioned due to my lack of improvement in my 3 MCAT retakes. What do you guys think?
Can anybody currently in the program or any alums speak about their experience in the program and experience in the application cycle? Did it genuinely help you? As someone with a 3.2 GPA I'm hoping to apply again while in the program but i'm concerned i'll be screened out again for having the same stats and it'll just be a waste of money...
Additionally I was leaning very heavily towards this program but of late been discouraged hearing about how cut throat it is and how minimal the faculty support is? Can some SMP-ers shed some more light on this as well?
Sorry if this has been asked already!!
Can anybody currently in the program or any alums speak about their experience in the program and experience in the application cycle? Did it genuinely help you? As someone with a 3.2 GPA I'm hoping to apply again while in the program but i'm concerned i'll be screened out again for having the same stats and it'll just be a waste of money...
Additionally I was leaning very heavily towards this program but of late been discouraged hearing about how cut throat it is and how minimal the faculty support is? Can some SMP-ers shed some more light on this as well?
Sorry if this has been asked already!!
Hi!
I wanted to reply to this because I feel like I might be able to give you a little advice.
So I was an '18-'19 SMP. I had a 3.27 cumulative uGPA but my science GPA was significantly lower. I applied while I was in the program, but I have to agree with you, it was a waste of money. In my opinion, you're much better off just waiting until you finish the program to apply. I say this because med schools want to see how you perform throughout the SMP. Unless you're already a stellar applicant with just one downfall, getting accepted while you're in the SMP is really hard.
As far as the cut-throat environment, this is true. However, it is easy to find your group of people and stick with them. I had a small group of friends that I studied with and we all did very well. This program is what you make of it. If you study incredibly hard, odds are, it will pay off.
I was accepted this cycle after completing the SMP and taking another year off. I do have quite a few significant ECs...so keep that in mind. But overall, I know I would not be in if it wasn't for this program. Hope this is at least slightly helpful.
Class of 2019 alumna here. I didn’t apply the same year because I didn’t feel like my application was even close to being good enough. I had a 3.1 gpa with an even lower science gpa. I focused on doing really well in the program, retook my Mcat right after the smp ended and applied that summer. I got 3 interviews (including Georgetown) and was accepted to all 3 schools. Would I have gotten any interviews without the smp gpa? Who knows but probably not. Keep in mind that besides my gpa I feel like my application was strong with strong research, pubs, and ECs. But I didn’t want to waste the money knowing that I just wasn’t ready to apply yet.
Do you guys mind sharing how well you did in the SMP? Did you guys do the GUMC or GTDT? And which would you recommend? And how many hours a day outside of classes did you spend studying?
If you go back to the first page of this thread, you'll see a post I did about how many hours a day I typically studied. It's relatively detailed. If you have any other specific questions I didn't address there, feel free to reach out again.
As far as how I performed...I finished with a 3.69. I was told by Dr. Myers the class average is usually around a "3.3 something". Usually Dr. Mulroney tells students if their GPA is above a 3.4, they have a decent shot at an interview at GUSOM. Do with this what you will. I didn't receive an interview at GUSOM last year or this year. I know people who had GPAs much lower than mine who did get interviews. They take a lot of things into consideration. Just know if you do this program, you need to keep your options open. Don't bank on GUSOM because even if you have the suggested stats, you're not guaranteed an interview.
Again, feel free to reach out with other questions! I'm happy to help. Ultimately, I'm glad I did this program. I got into a school where I know I belong and I wouldn't be there without the SMP.
Thank you!! I'm considering the GTDT program right now because it looks like more individualized attention? Would you say this is correct?
Can anybody currently in the program or any alums speak about their experience in the program and experience in the application cycle? Did it genuinely help you? As someone with a 3.2 GPA I'm hoping to apply again while in the program but i'm concerned i'll be screened out again for having the same stats and it'll just be a waste of money...
Additionally I was leaning very heavily towards this program but of late been discouraged hearing about how cut throat it is and how minimal the faculty support is? Can some SMP-ers shed some more light on this as well?
Sorry if this has been asked already!!
Does that mean those who don't apply in the same year they are taking the SMP will have a gap year between finishing their SMP and matriculating to med school?
Do you guys mind sharing how well you did in the SMP? Did you guys do the GUMC or GTDT? And which would you recommend? And how many hours a day outside of classes did you spend studying?
Yes I am very happy with my decision. I was also accepted to BU MAMS and I would choose GU SMP again and again. It paid off for me! And many of my friendsAre you alums happy with your decision? Would you choose this program if you had to do it again? I ask because I am considering a MS in Biotech with the HSI program at Hopkins...
Yes I am very happy with my decision. I was also accepted to BU MAMS and I would choose GU SMP again and again. It paid off for me! And many of my friends
Nope! I took a year off (this year). So I did the SMP from 2018-2019. And I will be in med school from 2020-2024.That's so great to hear! I've heard some mixed things about the program so I was unsure. Did you end up getting in a school the year you were in the program?
Mind PMing your stats?Any folks on here who have been accepted found housing or anything yet? Amy and team seem to not have sent anything out yet...
You cannot share exams easily at GU. The exams are taken through a specific computer program and it’s secure. So I’m sure there may be a few ways people can “cheat”, but overall, I highly doubt a significant number of former test questions are handed down bc it would be incredibly risky.Does anyone know if the exams are written by the professors "new" each time? I can imagine that M2+ would share past exams with the M1s and maybe this is why the average cumulative GPA of an SMP student is lower than I'd expect (~3.3)
Hey everyone! I am a current student. Feel free to message me with questions if you would like!
I graduated from the SMP in 2018, and was just accepted to GUSoM this cycle! If anyone has any questions, I'd be happy to answer them!
I loved my time at the SMP and felt very well supported by the faculty. After finishing, I retook the MCAT, and felt very prepared for it. I probably would not be going to med school next year if not for the faculty and support that I had!
Just to clarify a few things about interview&acceptances to GUSoM: people who apply via AMCAS during the cycle are put into a separate pool that interviews in early April. This is after GUSoM has finished their interviews for the regular cycle, and your interview day consists of just the 1 on 1 interview. They interview roughly the top 40% of the class, which usually corresponds to a ~3.7 SMP GPA cutoff and about 75-80 people. The admissions committee looks at your app as well to make sure that you have all the other necessary parts of a good medical school applications. From that pool of 75-80 interviews, you'll have roughly 30-35 people accepted. Hope this is helpful!
They recommend you apply to matriculate the following year, but I don't know how likely it isIs there anyway to do the SMP without a glide year?
Is there anyway to do the SMP without a glide year?
You would have to apply the year of the SMP program, so by the time you finish ~June, you would start medical school ~July/August.
Personally, I don't think you need this. Your GPA is already high in my opinion. It seems as though you needed an earlier app and higher MCAT, none of which the SMP is going to fix!I was curious if people here think this program might be useful for someone like me? I am a non-trad. I took time for personal reasons from school after 2015. I took the old MCAT before graduating and got a modest score. Worked full-time in a clinical setting in the next few years. I retook the exam in 2019 when I decided I wanted to pursue medicine again and my personal life had stabilized. Got a 503, however. My GPA is 3.7 for science and 3.69 cumulative. A lot of clinical and non-clinical experiences and leadership. Pretty much my issue is I've been out of school for a while and I've forgotten a lot and it's impacting my score. I took a chance and applied this cycle anyway, just in case. Applied late, October/November. Only had 2 II, and none accepted me. So I"m seeking a program that will help re-introduce me to the content and perhaps take some new courses that will be useful for med school but also help prepare me for the MCAT.
And no, I do not like Kaplan or Princeton, or the Khan Academy sources. I feel they were not helpful--at least for my needs. That's why I'm seeking a formalized, medically-oriented program. I've looked at quite a number, and some programs say that many people do very well on MCAT after taking these programs. Hoping some will be able and willing to help me in this regard. Thanks.
I was curious if people here think this program might be useful for someone like me? I am a non-trad. I took time for personal reasons from school after 2015. I took the old MCAT before graduating and got a modest score. Worked full-time in a clinical setting in the next few years. I retook the exam in 2019 when I decided I wanted to pursue medicine again and my personal life had stabilized. Got a 503, however. My GPA is 3.7 for science and 3.69 cumulative. A lot of clinical and non-clinical experiences and leadership. Pretty much my issue is I've been out of school for a while and I've forgotten a lot and it's impacting my score. I took a chance and applied this cycle anyway, just in case. Applied late, October/November. Only had 2 II, and none accepted me. So I"m seeking a program that will help re-introduce me to the content and perhaps take some new courses that will be useful for med school but also help prepare me for the MCAT.
And no, I do not like Kaplan or Princeton, or the Khan Academy sources. I feel they were not helpful--at least for my needs. That's why I'm seeking a formalized, medically-oriented program. I've looked at quite a number, and some programs say that many people do very well on MCAT after taking these programs. Hoping some will be able and willing to help me in this regard. Thanks.
Complete email 3/11. Accepted today!
As an URM applicant, is the SMP or GEMS program a better option?
Is there anyway to do the SMP without a glide year?
For those current / alum students, did you guys know of anyone living in the northern virginia area commuting to Georgetown for classes? I live about 40 minutes away without traffic, and probably 50 minutes by metro for GTDT campus. I'd like to get your opinion if that is doable.
Also if I don't apply the same summer before matriculating SMP, I would be taking a 3 year gap year. While my MCAT is still valid, I am concerned about letters of recs. For those who applied the summer after the program, were you guys able to obtain a letter of rec from SMP/med school professors? Or were most of your letters of rec from undergraduate profs then?
it's up to the applicant to decide, although the program does suggest you apply the year of. Usually people dont feel ready, want more clinical/volunteering experiences etc.. so just depends on you and your application and if you feel you are ready to apply that cycle. totally ok if you aren't. A handful of people in the program don't apply to any schools the year of.Got it, thank you! Do you by any chance know why most people don't do that?
Do you mind sharing your stats?low stats applicant applied 3/26, and was accepted today!
Do you mind sharing your stats?
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