"Gilding a Snowflake": The ridiculous credentials thread

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Post your ideas for the most ridiculous certifications and residency ideas that new grads can use to set themselves apart from the unwashed masses. And remember- academia is watching. If the idea is good (AKA DUMB) enough, you could get a REAL residency named in your honor!
 
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My contribution- residency in "rectal studies". Being involved in LTC, I witness every day the stress experienced by nursing if a resident misses a bowel movement. I want to bring my expertise in this area to the table, but lack the proper certification to demonstrate that I'm an expert. Whatever can I do to RECTify this?
 
Retail pharmacy specialists. Similar to the hospital setting where PGY-1’s are considered generalists and PGY-2’s are considered specialists, I believe there will be expansion in retail in the form of PGY-2 community residencies that focus on OTCTM’s (Over The Counter Medication Therapy Management) and ITM’s (Immunization Therapy Management).
 
These new grads in retail have no idea how to work in a pharmacy.

They need a PGY-3 in CRAP - Cash Registers and Phones.

They don't teach how to use these things in school.

Nothing gets a millennial's anxiety in full gear like having to talk on the phone with strangers. I think a certification demonstrating they have overcome their phone-talking-phobia could certainly set them apart!
 
If there was some sort of grueling certification that involved dealing with **** from the general public, I think that would give people a legitimate leg up in retail. Make it as psychologically traumatic as Special Forces training. Trying to think of examples of things they could do. Like maybe they could have some annoying voice say "one pharmacy call" every 12 seconds the entire time. I bet that would be torture. Or do something ridiculous like build a store with two drive thru lanes even though there is only 1 technician working with you. Imagine how soul crushing. Or make it so the computer breaks all the time. And when it breaks, the giant line of customers you have sit there and insult your intelligence because you can't find out what bin the drugs are in when the computer isn't up. Oh, and you have to be there for 12 hours straight with no break! Not even to piss! Imagine the laughable horror of something like that. Like half of the people that try would wind up with PTSD afterwards!
 
Nothing gets a millennial's anxiety in full gear like having to talk on the phone with strangers. I think a certification demonstrating they have overcome their phone-talking-phobia could certainly set them apart!

Lmao! I thought I was the only one who noticed this. Kids these days are afraid to answer the phone
 
Yup they don't have any social skills. Too busy on Twitter, Instagram, or Snapchat. They had to create dating apps cause no one knows how to ask a girl out anymore.
lol, I know this is really random and has nothing to do with this thread but you reminded me of these two old guys at my gym that were talking about how immunizations were made because kids don't know how to stay healthy anymore.
 
A certificate that might be useful would be the FLEA: Federal Loan Evasion Actions.
It’s best to position such a certificate as a dual degree instead, so that students can complete this program while in school to gain fiscal acumen early on. At the cheap cost of $10k/year, who wouldn’t want to do a PharmD/MSFLEA? You’d be putting people like Alex Barker out of a job with these credentials!
 
BPS in sterile compounding
BPS in patient communication/ethics
PGY2 corporate pharmacy leadership
PGY2 transitions of care

Only 1 of these is made up
The catch is that they’re all made up. It’s just that some of them offer a 1 year $50,000 contract up front to make it seem more realistic.

yeah, pretty bad when reality is more funny than parody.....
 
Lmao! I thought I was the only one who noticed this. Kids these days are afraid to answer the phone
Yeah- don't they realize that thing in their hands 24/7 lets you talk to people in some way other than text?
 
Nothing gets a millennial's anxiety in full gear like having to talk on the phone with strangers. I think a certification demonstrating they have overcome their phone-talking-phobia could certainly set them apart!

The companies need to get their acts together and drop the telephone option. I'd rather get texts from customers all day than telephone calls. We already do that in the hospital, nurses aren't allowed to call for missing meds, stat, etc because the EMR has a messaging function to request missing meds. They either have to come down to us (frowned upon) or wait for the messenger to bring it up to them.
 
Yup they don't have any social skills. Too busy on Twitter, Instagram, or Snapchat. They had to create dating apps cause no one knows how to ask a girl out anymore.

There was a video where they did "Tinder in real life". One of the most awkward things I ever watched. There is no way that I'd be able to cold tell someone that I'm not interested/passing on them.

 
Well, the fact that there is a residency in RETAIL at all is bad enough. Do they teach grocery bagging and running a cash register? Due to my lazy and inept technicians (whom I could neither discipline NOR give input on hiring) I did more of that some days than fill rxs....
 
Well, the fact that there is a residency in RETAIL at all is bad enough. Do they teach grocery bagging and running a cash register? Due to my lazy and inept technicians (whom I could neither discipline NOR give input on hiring) I did more of that some days than fill rxs....
Maybe the future of retail residencies will be as follows:

PGY-1: General pharmacy operations - Learn how to do MTMs, give flu shots, fill prescriptions.

PGY-2: Advanced retail pharmacotherapy - Learn how to look things up on Clinical Pharmacology, master OTC counseling and expand your immunization scope of practice to include giving travel vaccines.

PGY-3: Retail pharmacy administration/leadership - Learn how to be empowered to take ownership of any situation in the pharmacy. You will be the designated specialist in the pharmacy to fight any fire that comes up. Line at the cash register too long? No problem, we’ll train you on how to work a register so you can pop in and back up that clerk. Angry customer? No problem, we’ll train you on how to diffuse tense situations with patients by giving them a gift card. Adherence scores are down? No problem, we’ll give you a series of scripted templates to memorize before calling on members/docs about getting their refills. This specialized training will definitely set you apart from your pharmacist coworkers (especially new grads) who have no soft skills and are pushovers who don’t want to talk to people.

Along with that, BPS can easily come out with a BCRPS (Board Certified Retail Pharmacotherapy Specialist) certificate. Just drop out all the hospital content on the exam and replace it with retail operations/ethics questions.
 
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Maybe the future of retail residencies will be as follows:

PGY-1: General pharmacy operations - Learn how to do MTMs, give flu shots, fill prescriptions.

PGY-2: Advanced retail pharmacotherapy - Learn how to look things up on Clinical Pharmacology, master OTC counseling and expand your immunization scope of practice to include giving travel vaccines.

PGY-3: Retail pharmacy administration/leadership - Learn how to be empowered to take ownership of any situation in the pharmacy. You will be the designated specialist in the pharmacy to fight any fire that comes up. Line at the cash register too long? No problem, we’ll train you on how to work a register so you can pop in and back up that clerk. Angry customer? No problem, we’ll train you on how to diffuse tense situations with patients by giving them a gift card. Adherence scores are down? No problem, we’ll give you a series of scripted templates to memorize before calling on members/docs about getting their refills. This specialized training will definitely set you apart from your pharmacist coworkers (especially new grads) who have no soft skills and are pushovers who don’t want to talk to people.

Along with that, BPS can easily come out with a BCRPS (Board Certified Retail Pharmacotherapy Specialist) certificate. Just drop out all the hospital content on the exam and replace it with retail operations/ethics questions.
Sadly that all sounds frighteningly possible. Glad I'm in the twilight of my career....LOL
 
Maybe the future of retail residencies will be as follows:

PGY-1: General pharmacy operations - Learn how to do MTMs, give flu shots, fill prescriptions.

PGY-2: Advanced retail pharmacotherapy - Learn how to look things up on Clinical Pharmacology, master OTC counseling and expand your immunization scope of practice to include giving travel vaccines.

PGY-3: Retail pharmacy administration/leadership - Learn how to be empowered to take ownership of any situation in the pharmacy. You will be the designated specialist in the pharmacy to fight any fire that comes up. Line at the cash register too long? No problem, we’ll train you on how to work a register so you can pop in and back up that clerk. Angry customer? No problem, we’ll train you on how to diffuse tense situations with patients by giving them a gift card. Adherence scores are down? No problem, we’ll give you a series of scripted templates to memorize before calling on members/docs about getting their refills. This specialized training will definitely set you apart from your pharmacist coworkers (especially new grads) who have no soft skills and are pushovers who don’t want to talk to people.

Along with that, BPS can easily come out with a BCRPS (Board Certified Retail Pharmacotherapy Specialist) certificate. Just drop out all the hospital content on the exam and replace it with retail operations/ethics questions.

I don’t know... MTM definitely seems like a PGY-3 activity. It’s pretty advanced.
 
It will be hilarious when hospital positions that require a PGY-2 get applications from retail pharmacy residents.
 
One of the local chains, only about 20 stores, offers a "community pharmacy residency".

Work as a pharmacist for 40k a year so that you can put diabetic shoe fitting on your CV? No thanks
 
One of the local chains, only about 20 stores, offers a "community pharmacy residency".

Work as a pharmacist for 40k a year so that you can put diabetic shoe fitting on your CV? No thanks

I got a better one for ya. I know of a couple of residencies with an indie pharmacies in BFE.
 
A residency in BFE might be useful. Help you decipher all those redneck dialects...."I'm bringing 'ya a subscription....gimme the genetic only..."
 
A residency in BFE might be useful. Help you decipher all those redneck dialects...."I'm bringing 'ya a subscription....gimme the genetic only..."
However you run the risk of specializing yourself out of a job in large, metro areas where the demand for “bilingual in BFE” is almost non-existant.
 
I always joked that the grocery pharmacy chain I worked for was gonna make us do free rectal exams one day. They used to hand out gas points for transferred RXs and for grocery rewards, so I suggested "Got ASS? Get GAS!" as the slogan for the program- get a free rectal exam and get gas points for participating during Rectal Health month. Also suggested "Can't Beat our Meat!" for our meat department. The store managers never liked me for some reason....
 
Also, when we started our Flavor Rx med flavoring program, I started the rumor that corporate had ordered us all clown suits to wear during the promotion. The outrage for that rumor got as far as corporate, though they never did figure out where it came from.... 🙂
 
Post your ideas for the most ridiculous certifications and residency ideas that new grads can use to set themselves apart from the unwashed masses. And remember- academia is watching. If the idea is good (AKA DUMB) enough, you could get a REAL residency named in your honor!
Here’s another up and coming “must-have” credential for pharmacists: BCPRS (Board Certified Pre-pharm Recruiting Specialist).

Pharmacy schools will figure out soon enough that prospective pre-pharms are scared off from applying due to the perceived saturation, and need to find a way to stay profitable. This will spur the evolution of the next-generation pharmacy school which will be rightsized to meet current market demands.

You will see the entire pharmaceutical sciences/research departments of each pharmacy school be axed in favor of the creation of a “Clinical Innovation” department whose sole purpose is to recruit pre-pharms to fill seats because the ROI is insane - why hire faculty to write research proposals and apply for ~$50-100k grants when you can hire a team of Alex Barker Jr’s to lead the recruitment of pre-pharmers at $200k+ profit a pop?

These specialists will have been trained through the BCPRS program to use any and all tactics to convince pre-pharms to sign on the dotted line. This includes:

1. Creating “poster child” job hunt/residency placement stories from alumni to use as advertising material by cherry picking from the 20% of alumni who do end up finding employment after graduation.

2. Having a sub-team of social media specialists who create dummy accounts on online message boards like SDN to “defend” the profession and bleach/censor threads about the perceived saturation and where this profession is heading, or make posts as fake pre-pharmers to lull real pre-pharmers into a false sense of how many of their peers are truly applying to pharmacy school. Wolf in sheep’s clothing, as they say.

3. Maintaining oversight of the admissions interview process, including training interviewers on what can/can’t be said and being “culturally sensitive” to pre-pharms so that they will be convinced that this is a happy-go-lucky profession and that everything is fine and dandy.

4. A renewed emphasis on research and publications about the expanding role and need for pharmacists in the _______ setting because what more convincing way is there for schools to prove the “flexibility” of the profession by pointing to publications?

5. Developing an accelerated 0+6 PharmD program at your school of pharmacy. Undergrad pre-pharm applicant pool drying up? No problem, you can always tap into younger, more naive high school students to sign on the dotted line. But teenagers must be dealt with differently than college students. It’s the wild,wild west here and a gold mine of opportunity. Imagine the possibilities...
 
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Here’s another up and coming “must-have” credential for pharmacists: BCPRS (Board Certified Pre-pharm Recruiting Specialist).

I suspect those in academia regularly read these forums and are probably licking their chops as we do their jobs for them with ideas like this....
 
Here’s another up and coming “must-have” credential for pharmacists: BCPRS (Board Certified Pre-pharm Recruiting Specialist).

They could just allow students to get the credential without having to be a licensed pharmacist.

Most schools already have students commonly known as "ambassadors" to do the selling recruiting even as these students continue to pay full price on their tuition bills.
 
lol love the title of this thread, which is so very true these days
 
They could just allow students to get the credential without having to be a licensed pharmacist.

Most schools already have students commonly known as "ambassadors" to do the selling recruiting even as these students continue to pay full price on their tuition bills.
well, in my College, the undergrads are not falling for the BS. They prefer the Med school recruiter over the Pharmacy candidate ambassador.
 
lol love the title of this thread, which is so very true these days
Thanks! Was very inspired by the precious 'lil snowflakes in the prepharm forums....
 
But, that's entry level for pharmacy now. Since it isn't optional, it's hard to make fun of it, despite the fact that all older pharmacists know it isn't necessary. That "addition" was also really what started the end of the pharmacy profession, as it gave academia an unlimited license to add all sorts of unnecessary educational requirements for an entry level job.
 
lol, I know this is really random and has nothing to do with this thread but you reminded me of these two old guys at my gym that were talking about how immunizations were made because kids don't know how to stay healthy anymore.

Were they referring to Gardasil? It wasn't common to have 20+ sex partners 50 years ago.
 
Ok...got another one. Inspired by my current boss. DAMM- Doctorate in Advanced Micro Management, Great for the guy who wants to spend all day trying to find a bottle of 1000 count lisinopril from some unknown chinese generic manufacturer that is 5 cents cheaper than the last 1000 he bought (and spends a solid 8 hours doing nothing else but pursuing this lofty goal). Granted, it will probably all be recalled before the bottle is empty- but hey! It's REALLY cheap. It takes a certain type of individual to find such a pursuit satisfying...and I'm not it!
 
They could just allow students to get the credential without having to be a licensed pharmacist.

Most schools already have students commonly known as "ambassadors" to do the selling recruiting even as these students continue to pay full price on their tuition bills.
Yeah, the ambassadors are loosing out on recruiting potential candidates in my university due to the fact there is a DO school and a nursing school. The undergrads in my university are getting the message to not do pharmacy.

Also, my pharmacy school has increased the number of pre-reqs that undergrads have to take. For example, they added physical chemistry as a class you can take to be well rounded
 
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