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Hey, I know most schools require you to keep up your grades until you enter dental school; but I was just wondering how strict these kinds of policies are. I know each school is different, but for example UNLV says to keep a B.

I ask because right now I have a C+ in Biochem without taking the final so Id rather take the C+ and not do the final if i don't have to. It's probably not that big of a deal but was just wanting to see if anyone knew before I shoot myself in the foot or outright call the school to find out. Thanks.

Just wondering if any of you have run into this yourself or if there are any UNLV students out there who have gone through this. Thanks
 
This is an absolutely pathetic question... why don't you just shoot yourself in the foot and see what the school has to say about your complacency... unbelievable...
 
This is an absolutely pathetic question... why don't you just shoot yourself in the foot and see what the school has to say about your complacency... unbelievable...

lol....id agree...if you cant get an A in undergrad biochem....ds biochem is going to be hell on earth! id recommend some serious studying on the weekends and a tutor...
 
lol....id agree...if you cant get an A in undergrad biochem....ds biochem is going to be hell on earth! id recommend some serious studying on the weekends and a tutor...


LOL what Dental School biochem are you talking about?!?! :laugh:


Just chill study and get the B, who cares.
 
lol....id agree...if you cant get an A in undergrad biochem....ds biochem is going to be hell on earth! id recommend some serious studying on the weekends and a tutor...
How do you know? Spoken like a true pre-dent noobster!
 
How do you know? Spoken like a true pre-dent noobster!

Oh, WOW!!!! And you are such a long established member - of one year? Seriously, you have only been here for 5 months longer than zoral.

And your status you may have been accepted to dental school, but you are NOT a dental student yet. You still are a PRE-DENT too. Sorry to burst your bubble. You can claim the d-student status once you pay your tuition and start classes!


Now, to the comment of zoral, he really doesn't know what he is talking about. He, as well as TJNova, are not in dental school and can only make comments based on 2nd hand info. I, on the other hand, have been through Bichem in dental school. Biochem in dental school is no different than in undergrad other than just the greater volume of info covered in a shorter period of time. If you grasp and remember the basic concepts in undergrad biochem, then you will do just fine in d-school biochem. Now, if you struggled some in undergrad biochem, don't expect to be the top of the class in it. But to feel like biochem will be "hell on earth" as zoral put it, that is wrong. Biochem was harder in d-school for me as compared to when I took it in undergrad. But then again, I took biochem 13 years earlier and had not had a single college course in 9 years when I had started d-school and had biochem that first semester. Obviously, having a heavy load of courses with a 9 year layoff was a little more challenging for me hence the reason why biochem was harder for me than it was in undergrad. I still did fine, just not a mid-90's grade that I had in undergrad.

As far as the C+ goes, you should be fine. One C+ is not going to cause them to revoke your acceptance. Don't stress out!
 
Oh, WOW!!!! And you are such a long established member - of one year? Seriously, you have only been here for 5 months longer than zoral.

And your status you may have been accepted to dental school, but you are NOT a dental student yet. You still are a PRE-DENT too. Sorry to burst your bubble. You can claim the d-student status once you pay your tuition and start classes!


Now, to the comment of zoral, he really doesn't know what he is talking about. He, as well as TJNova, are not in dental school and can only make comments based on 2nd hand info. I, on the other hand, have been through Bichem in dental school. Biochem in dental school is no different than in undergrad other than just the greater volume of info covered in a shorter period of time. If you grasp and remember the basic concepts in undergrad biochem, then you will do just fine in d-school biochem. Now, if you struggled some in undergrad biochem, don't expect to be the top of the class in it. But to feel like biochem will be "hell on earth" as zoral put it, that is wrong. Biochem was harder in d-school for me as compared to when I took it in undergrad. But then again, I took biochem 13 years earlier and had not had a single college course in 9 years when I had started d-school and had biochem that first semester. Obviously, having a heavy load of courses with a 9 year layoff was a little more challenging for me hence the reason why biochem was harder for me than it was in undergrad. I still did fine, just not a mid-90's grade that I had in undergrad.

As far as the C+ goes, you should be fine. One C+ is not going to cause them to revoke your acceptance. Don't stress out!

bla. bla. bla. what haven't you done?

Look buddy, I commend you for your efforts. But as you can clearly see, I want to specialize. I will not be satisfied with much below an A. If a person gets a C+ in UNDERGRAD biochem (at a school that has an optional final, huh?..must not have learned too much..), then I'm sorry, but dental school biochem will suck... You said it was okay for you in ds, but you also got mid 90s in undergrad...

Brag some more about your efforts. I could care less.

I could get a C+ in biochem without even going to class. I sure as hell wouldn't want that person working on my mouth.....and tell me this, tell me that..."biochem isnt necessary." bla bla bla....

Get real. And rather than blatantly bashing my words...id suggest a different approach next time...It might actually sound a little credible.

Ya know, I don't like your attitude. I don't care if my status says I've been here for 2 years, 8 years. I could make an account and appear to be a practicing gd...and post..would that mean my words were more important? ha. you're a joke!

This is enough irritation for me tonight. Best of luck.
 
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zoral, what the hell are you talking about man? First of all, I was defending you from TJ Nova. Next, my only comment about you is that you have no idea what you are talking about as far as how biochem in d-school. It is absolutely true that you have no clue what you are talking about since you have NEVER been to d-school! Next year, you will. Now, you don't. Everythign you state is 2nd hand. And, I never mentioned anything about YOUR ability to handle biochem. Maybe you need to re-read posts before you take offense as you clearly have here.

Now, as far as biochem goes for the OP, do you know why he/she has a C+? There are a lot of possible reasons why. But no matter what, you have no clue that it will suck for the OP since you have absolutely nothign to compare it to.

As for my grade in undergrad vs d-school, please take note that it was 13 yrs between taking it. Now, I will give it to you that I did do well before, so one would think that I should do just fine. But, the OP obviously did fine enough in his/her other science classes that the school accepted him/her. So, I bet you that they will still feel he will be able to handle their courses even with a C+. IF I were a betting man, I would bet the OP will do just fine even with getting a C+ in undergrad biochem.

Bragging - I wasn't bragging - just making a comment. Who is the one bragging here? " I could get a C+ without even going to class". If my comment came across as bragging, it was not intented as I was stating how d-school biochem was still a little harder for me. Yours, well, it is clearly obvious that it was.

Biochem .... yes, there is a certain amount that ties directly into dentistry that is good to know, but in order to be a good dentist you don't have to be able to recite biochem info. You don't need to be able to remember all the enzymes. You don't need to be able to know all the steps of translation and transcription. Etc. You just need to understand the basic principles and how they relae to the medical systems. Great, if you can retain that info, more power to you. But as long as you can understand what is going on if a patient has a certain medical condition, then that is all you need to remember for the most part. Any of the fine details can be researched. Now, if you want to get into the who you would want to work on your wouth arguement, in a heartbeat I would take a person who got a C+ over an A+ student anyday if that A+ student's hand skills suck. It is not uncommon for adademically inclined students to have trouble with hand skills. I know plenty of people who are in the bottom half of the class because of their didactic abilities who excel in the lab courses and the clinic. I'll take a dentist with average scores in the basic sciences with excellent hand skills over a brilliant student with average hand skills any day. Blah ... blah .... blah.....

Your status time on SDN .... I was not bashing you. I was bashing the other guy... who was claiming you as a newbie. He was the one I was calling out because he hasn't been a member that much longer than you. Please read the posts before you get pissed as you clearly misunderstood what was written.

You don't like my attitude .... you're the one who took offense. You are the one who started getting pissed off and insulting. I just said you don't know what you are talking about since you have NO experience! You claim my attitude was poor, so my words aren't credible. Shoot, read your words in your last post. If my words, aren't credible, what do you call yours? Ouch.

bla. bla. bla. what haven't you done?

Look buddy, I commend you for your efforts. But as you can clearly see, I want to specialize. I will not be satisfied with much below an A. If a person gets a C+ in UNDERGRAD biochem (at a school that has an optional final, huh?..must not have learned too much..), then I'm sorry, but dental school biochem will suck... You said it was okay for you in ds, but you also got mid 90s in undergrad...

Brag some more about your efforts. I could care less.

I could get a C+ in biochem without even going to class. I sure as hell wouldn't want that person working on my mouth.....and tell me this, tell me that..."biochem isnt necessary." bla bla bla....

Get real. And rather than blatantly bashing my words...id suggest a different approach next time...It might actually sound a little credible.

Ya know, I don't like your attitude. I don't care if my status says I've been here for 2 years, 8 years. I could make an account and appear to be a practicing gd...and post..would that mean my words were more important? ha.

This is enough irritation for me tonight. Best of luck.
 
Oh, WOW!!!! And you are such a long established member - of one year? Seriously, you have only been here for 5 months longer than zoral.

How is this even relevant? I was gunning my previous year before I joined SDN, big deal.

And your status you may have been accepted to dental school, but you are NOT a dental student yet. You still are a PRE-DENT too. Sorry to burst your bubble. You can claim the d-student status once you pay your tuition and start classes!
I've payed my fair share of tuition buddy.

Now, to the comment of zoral, he really doesn't know what he is talking about. He, as well as TJNova, are not in dental school and can only make comments based on 2nd hand info. I, on the other hand, have been through Bichem in dental school. Biochem in dental school is no different than in undergrad other than just the greater volume of info covered in a shorter period of time. If you grasp and remember the basic concepts in undergrad biochem, then you will do just fine in d-school biochem. Now, if you struggled some in undergrad biochem, don't expect to be the top of the class in it. But to feel like biochem will be "hell on earth" as zoral put it, that is wrong. Biochem was harder in d-school for me as compared to when I took it in undergrad. But then again, I took biochem 13 years earlier and had not had a single college course in 9 years when I had started d-school and had biochem that first semester. Obviously, having a heavy load of courses with a 9 year layoff was a little more challenging for me hence the reason why biochem was harder for me than it was in undergrad. I still did fine, just not a mid-90's grade that I had in undergrad.
The biochemistry I had in undergraduate was significantly easier than the dental school version. Very few people achieved A's in the undergraduate course. It's all relative on your background. I learned the concepts, did my time so the second time around was easier.

As far as the C+ goes, you should be fine. One C+ is not going to cause them to revoke your acceptance. Don't stress out!
Stop acting like Obama. If the school states "I know each school is different, but for example UNLV says to keep a B." They typically really do mean it.

Sorry to bust your ego, Sailor.
 
NAVY DDS: I apologize for the rude comments, but seriously, we're all going to be/are professionals, so I'd encourage us all (regardless of our age or how long we've been a member at this site) to act like one. I have no doubt in my mind that you are a great dentist and I envy you for that. Please see what I wrote to nova as well...Because it's quite valid.

TJNOVA: As far as everything else goes - I think it is very rude to read someone's post and then see what their account says whether they are pre-dent, dentist, or a resident, and how many times they have posted to see how important their words are. Why do I say this? Well, because, I could make an account that says I am a resident...or better yet, change this account to say that...should that make my words more valuable? HELL no.

See my point? If not, oh well, I tried. Enjoy your Christmas!
 
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Hey, I know most schools require you to keep up your grades until you enter dental school; but I was just wondering how strict these kinds of policies are. I know each school is different, but for example UNLV says to keep a B.

I ask because right now I have a C+ in Biochem without taking the final so Id rather take the C+ and not do the final if i don't have to. It's probably not that big of a deal but was just wanting to see if anyone knew before I shoot myself in the foot or outright call the school to find out. Thanks.

Just wondering if any of you have run into this yourself or if there are any UNLV students out there who have gone through this. Thanks

I made 2 C's my last semester of undergrad. But that was probably an ornery decision, it's better to do the best you can. But seriously, some people I know haven't even turned in their college transcripts yet, and we just finished our 3rd semester. "Once you're in, you're in." Just don't go and get a criminal record or anything. And don't get a D or an F. C will be okay. I promise.
 
DS are empathetic to unpredictable and unlucky situations in undergrad performance. I suffered from a burn out mid undergrad and I explained why in my autobiography letter and how it has negatively affected my GPA, thus under representing my academic rating. If they see that you have one C+ and the rest are all A's, then they will know that it is not your IQ or effort that is the problem, but was maybe due to a unlucky situation. In no way am I saying that I know for a fact that DS have this methodology in assessing GPA, just that they are human too and know that everyone makes mistakes.
 
Biochem at Stony Brook was 0% like my undergrad biochem. The exams were practice NBME exams. How can you compare the two?

Don't be dumb and enjoy your time out of dental school. Who cares if you get a C in undergrad biochem. It doesn't mean anything
 
Biochem at Stony Brook was 0% like my undergrad biochem. The exams were practice NBME exams. How can you compare the two?

Don't be dumb and enjoy your time out of dental school. Who cares if you get a C in undergrad biochem. It doesn't mean anything

I disagree. It doesn't mean anything, huh? Too bad it doesn't mean that until you are accepted into dental school....and when you know that, then, its okay to get a C...
 
I disagree. It doesn't mean anything, huh? Too bad it doesn't mean that until you are accepted into dental school....and when you know that, then, its okay to get a C...

Come on everyone. An A+ shouldn't be that hard.
 
Hey, I know most schools require you to keep up your grades until you enter dental school; but I was just wondering how strict these kinds of policies are. I know each school is different, but for example UNLV says to keep a B.

I ask because right now I have a C+ in Biochem without taking the final so Id rather take the C+ and not do the final if i don't have to. It's probably not that big of a deal but was just wanting to see if anyone knew before I shoot myself in the foot or outright call the school to find out. Thanks.

Just wondering if any of you have run into this yourself or if there are any UNLV students out there who have gone through this. Thanks

If you can get a C+ without taking the exam....then I am assuming the exam is worth less than 20% of your grade. Just take the thing, even if you didn't study, guess on half of them (educated guesses of course) and you should have enough points to get a B...geesh.....
 
If you can get a C+ without taking the exam....then I am assuming the exam is worth less than 20% of your grade. Just take the thing, even if you didn't study, guess on half of them (educated guesses of course) and you should have enough points to get a B...geesh.....
Or is it one of the classes where you take 3 or 4 exams, and if you screwed up one of those exams, you can take a cumulative final to replace the lowest exam score?
 
If you're going to be apathetic and lazy (I stand by what I said earlier... you're really going to make an amazing dentist... note sarcasm...), at least make sure you read the syllabus and know the course policy. Some classes will give you an incomplete if you do not take the final exam, regardless of your grade.
 
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