My income in 2023.
The match is 2% which is the same for both places. The cash balance will start at $0. I don't consider the sign-on bonus as part of yearly income. I tried to reduce the bonus and negotiate a higher base salary. I have 4 more years to complete through PSLF either way. I was given that range but I'm "assuming" Year 3 is where the loan forgiveness will start for them. Thanks.
You make a great point. I am leaning more that way but exploring other jobs outside this region. Thanks for your insight.
My understanding is extremely safe. I work county, so different obviously, but my job is much safer than my work in the inpatient unit. Most visits are behind glass. If I'm walking on a cell module, I have a cop with me at all times.
How do you like it so far?
does fellowship play a role in your compensation?
Hook me up! Moved to the area and the salaries I've seen are dismal.
Highly dependent on institution. Sounds like the CL docs in our system have a much better boundaried set of expectations with consulting teams than the CL services in the academic centers where I trained.
Fellowship can play a role. If you're hired specifically for a fellowship-related role in our system, it works out to a roughly 10% increase in compensation.
I start July 1, 2024.
There is truth to this, in both my old hospital setting and my current specialized setting we make a good amount more than the NP's.
This is so silly to me. Do paralegals inflate their salaries to get under lawyer's skins? Do physical therapy assistants inflate their salaries to get under PT's skins? NAs to get under RNs skins? RNs to get under NPs skins? How do we have a culture where it's a reasonable thing to act dishonestly to get under someone's skin?
That's already 390K/year starting with prorated sign on and loan repayment. Seems very solid for 30/60 min and 1 day of call/month.
Seems pretty good overall. How many hours per day are f2f with patients?
the easiest way?
this is the only reward worth talking to a recruiter and as long as you play it safe and don't let them actually have means to contact you it's worked so far.
No, the golden handcuffs are the pension plans for the regions that still do those (or the people who are grandfathered on those plans for the regions that no longer do.) They're VERY generous... if you stick around long enough to qualify. Hence the handcuffs. Several ex-Cali regions don't do pension plans anymore for new hires. Upside for new hires is a benefit you can actually take with you without having to spend a decade+ with the same employer, downside is those benefits aren't nearly as good at retirement as the old pensions.
If this is Kaiser, they work you to the bone lol. You’re a slave to the inbox. They own you and how you practice. And the high salary is there because it’s Cali , you get taxed like hell so they have to have a high salary to make the post-tax take home pay somewhat reasonable.
Median 40-hour W2 psych jobs (outside of rural/undesirable loc) were not making 300k in 2016.
You can find jobs that let you grind 9-5 to make good money, little harder but not impossible. People are certainly interested in someone capable of generating high RVUs/billing. It can certainly be done with a schedule appropriately packed with 99214 +90833 x 14 in a day if you have good insurance contracts, high show rates, long retention of patient's, there are setups that can make more money than cash pay psychiatrists in this way.
I would say my class is definitely prioritizing work life balance, so for the hours worked and lifestyle most of us are happy with anything around 300k.
Many jobs try to start you at 270k in Florida aka low-ball you, don’t fall for it!! No one should take a job below 300k in Fl
For base salary or total compensation?
Q4 call is quite a bit, particularly depending on the size of the unit. By rough approximation of q4 and you covering 10 beds, if you are covering 40 CAP beds on call/weekend that certainly would come with a big hit to sleep quantity (not sure FL laws but we cannot have standing psych PRNs for peds patients where I live). 370k is still reasonable but there is a huge chasm between 9-5 no call and q4 all night call in overall health/lifestyle.
Base lol
I would never debase myself for a base that low
Terrible.
This was about my base when I was in academics up until 2022. Though there was no weekend rounding and there was 0% academic time. The pay does seem bad but I think you have to consider everything - what are the benefits like? This can make a big difference. One of my colleagues was out sick for a yr and was paid full salary during that time. That's without using the disability insurance. We had generous sick leave, vacation, almost unlimited professional leave, good health/dental/vision insurance, a pension plan and 3 retirement plans. When staffing was adequate (which was rarely) it was super chill. Sometimes I saw like 1 pt a day. When staffing was bad (which was most of the time) it was terrible. It was also a very dysfunctional system which came with a lot of advantages. I was also able to effectively double my pay with additional work. I also got a green card out of it paid by the department. They also had some good discounts which I used frequently.
