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Ross434 said:I know a guy working for a top NYC law firm with a fake diploma (from a different school than he went to). He stands no chance of getting in trouble, though, since if he is fired, they will have to prove he hurt their business. Just a random anecdote. Obviously it doesnt work this way in medicine.
eralza said:My brother's girlfriend is a marketing manager with a great firm.
Several years ago, while she was still in college, she decided that she really didn't need a degree to do marketing. So, she forged a degree, created an outstanding resume, and got hired at about $50K/yr (back in the 90's). Since then, she has transfered jobs several times and worked her way up to a management position at $100K/yr. Normally, I'd be apalled by such dishonesty, but after several years of contemplation, I've come to the same decision as she did..."you really don't need a degree to be a great marketing manager"!
heeter said:yeah, you don't need a degree to be a marketing manager. In fact, you don't need a degree for most business-related jobs... You need common sense and a will to succeed but a degree is a waste. This comes from a guy w/ a business undergrad. Totally. Worthless. Degree.
Acherona said:crazy. I don't think you could get away with that nowadays, with all the electronic verification. Forging official mcat score report would be kind of hard.
Law2Doc said:I can't comment on your specific example, but your analysis of the downside of lawyer fraud isn't right.
CalGoldenBear said:i know a guy (distant relative through marriage) that went to community college, then transferred to uc davis but dropped out after a quarter, but lied to everyone that he was still going. pretended to graduate and then said he got into NYU dental, moved from CA to NY, continued lying to his older sisters (who were helping him financially), all the while racking up debt by buying things like $200 shaving cream and stealing and cashing other people's checks. while in NY, he had an arranged marriage, lied to his future in-laws about his schooling, and then finally, when it came time to graduate from dental school, his sisters and their families flew out to NY for the ceremony where he told them it was all a lie, and alas, no graduation ceremony. and then the parents of his wife found out, forced her to divorce him, and now they are demanding back the money they spent on the wedding. lol. at least he didn't try to pretend he was an actual dentist to patients.
anyway, i wonder what happened to the guy in the story, since the article was written in 1998. guess we'll never know...
xadmin said:I agreed, you don't need a degree to know how to do business. Hell, I don't need a degree to do Bio. I can go buy those Bio and Chem book and learned all the theory myself in one year.
More credit to you if you can get a job through forgery. You have a talent and deserve it.
eralza said:My brother's girlfriend is a marketing manager with a great firm.
Several years ago, while she was still in college, she decided that she really didn't need a degree to do marketing. So, she forged a degree, created an outstanding resume, and got hired at about $50K/yr (back in the 90's). Since then, she has transfered jobs several times and worked her way up to a management position at $100K/yr. Normally, I'd be apalled by such dishonesty, but after several years of contemplation, I've come to the same decision as she did..."you really don't need a degree to be a great marketing manager"!
No, I figure tha Karma will catch up with her down the way.funshine said:..."you really don't need a degree to be a great marketing manager"!
Maybe not, but i sure hope you don't view her as some sort of role model
funshine said:"More credit to you if you can get a job through forgery. You have a talent and deserve it."
YEAH! And you'll also deserve it when you get kicked into jail for lying/cheating in your business.
The best people can play by the rules and still win.