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[JackShephard MD]

Guys, I'm in the same boat....here's my strategy for how I'm going to approach this problem. It relies on just sticking GT out for the following reasons:

The first reality I care about is this is the score itself, I'm not an IMG or DO (not sure where you guys are at) so if we are shooting for the top residencies than a 245-255 range is the cutoff wow threshold for ortho, derm, plastics, rad onc and a 260, 270, 280 isn't going to make or break the deal (reccs, pubs, connections, 3rd year grades WAY more imp at that point)....different story perhaps for DOs or IMGs trying to make it big and standout

The second reality is this, FA+UWORLD, FA+UWORLD ought to be at the CORE of what you need to master and understand entering the test. Those are the CORE, must-know backbones. Look at the step 1 experiences and what people say, its better to be 100% in these than anything else and I am confident if we master these, then we should be gold for the actual test. Knowing AND understanding these two cold I am going to speculate should get you in the 235-240+ range. The other qbanks are great for practice but not reflective of the real exam. The NBMEs and UWorld come the closest. Hence, doing more questions doesn't necessarily translate into better performance on the test. I strongly believe doing the RIGHT questions does and in terms of time invested/points earned just knowing one qbank cold (UWorld, over 2000 questions) > being a question answering machine like Philoston. Hence I think if you want to get 2-3x passes, it would be beneficial to start UWorld (just 5-10 questions a night and knowing them perfectly) during the start of 2nd year. I'm sure if we have 50% of GT banked, we should at least be able to select easy 1st year stuff to do and by the time January rolls around and path and pharm are over, we can do the really hard path/pharm questions.

The third reality is that PATH is 75% of the test hence it merits a supplemental resource. I think PATH and physio are the two most conceptually-bound subjects where learning the mechanisms/doing problems are MORE important vs. just memorizing. Micro/Biochem/Anatomy/Immuno were all memorizable subjects. Hence I feel like BRS phys and Pathoma (the book with lectures) + Robbins Q and A book + maybe some kaplan qbank problems + Goljan audio are the way to annihilate the beast during the school year to answer any question being tossed at you for boards. Pathoma and BRS phys are something that can be easily supplemented during boards prep. Additionally I think GT path, pharm should be banked as you go along with classes (I compared path in pathoma with GT path and FA path and they go hand in hand and it would be like banking FA path) and should be prioritized during your daily questions. I don't think you need to necessarily read the GT cards (I plan on reading Pathoma and annotating class notes onto Pathoma and using BRS phys/Pathoma as my "GT cards" in an essence because they provide better meaning and conceptualization of basically the most important section on step so its better to know this WELL)

Personally, I've been banking GT cards while watching Kaplan Videos this summer to fully master the material and understand the conceptual aspects behind the GT cards. It's been great to obtain this holistic study approach and I think the bigger questions you need to ask yourself is this:
a.) Is the tradeoff of Kaplan QBank and Rx questions > doing daily GT questions.
b.) Will Kaplan QBank and Rx provide me any base to better perform on UWorld, NBME (better Qbank gaugers of the USMLE)
-> Personally I think you need a knowledgebase in order to do QBanks. People may disagree, but I think its foolish to just to start out doing Qbanks during the year on stuff I forgot, arduously read the explanations, forget most of it by the time I start UWorld later on in the year. It would be hard to just rely on Kaplan and Rx QBanks with randomly scattered high yield info questions and use the explanations as my knowledgebase. I would pick GT over Qbanks as the priority hands down because it allows me to master FA AND at least get one-step problems during my review questions than difficult Kaplan QBank questions over the top of my head.

If ANYTHING, do these qbanks later on during the road AFTER your first pass of UWorld and before your second pass of UWorld during dedicated study time.

The point is, GT and qbanks are both a time investment and you need to make a sacrifice and common ground that maximizes on learning All the high-yield (FA+UWorld) and some medium-yield (those added details in GT) the most efficient way.

GT/UWorld/Pathoma, BRS Phys, Robbins Q+A, Kaplan Path QBank FTW for 2nd year

As a sidenote, lets hope the firecracker interface will be ready by the time MS2 starts where we can customize our GT schedule....if thats the case then that clinches the benefit of doing GT

In the end your strategy is live Step 1 and do everything for 1 year. Well, yeah. That will work. Yet doing gt /2xUworld/Kaplan/Usmlerx/pathoma/Robbins review/brs physio is a lot with M2.

Good input from all, thx.

 

[GTP]

So what's your decision shepardmd

 

[Gunneria]

well i have path/pharm until end of january then downhill from there...ive taken micro as well....so yes the bulk of it will be busy. Watching pathoma vids and using the pathoma text annotated with my class notes, I hope, will not be that time consuming. I've noticed that during physio and anatomy, having an annotated review book (with any additional tidbits from lecture not in my exam) while going to lecture was the BEST way to do things because it consolidated everything I needed to know by exam time I.e.- my annotated BRS phys condensed the hours and pages of notes I needed to know. moreover, im in a p/f system so yeah i just care about passing.

My point: for pharm and path, I'll solely use my annotated pathoma/BRS phys and pharm GT as my study sources, GT as my drilling machine, and the plethora of Robbins QandA and MAYBE kaplan qbank if necessary...definitely DOABLE...and you're exaggerating my dedication to UWorld...sure until january it'll be rough but doing 5 probs of UWorld a night is doable, heck ill get the iphone uworld app and do them while on the toilet...the point im making is, a slow and steady paced philosophy of tackling UWorld 2x, GT, pathoma thoroughly is clutch.

 

[JackShephard MD]

So what's your decision shepardmd

Lol, not sure. The one idea of just using GT for memory heavy subjects sounds good. My true goal is to focus on M2 material since understanding it well is crucial. The jury is still hung. I will probably see what banking the micro is like, I'm done with anatomy and basically done with biochem, embryo is pretty short so I could knock that out pretty quick.

The one thing I know is that both methods will work, it's just what do I like more. I think sometimes using GT makes you want to always be studying (no days off). Also, you're always trying to bank more and more, while the non GT person could take off 2 weeks no sweat, and then cram the crammable topics. Sometimes I like the idea of taking off multiple weeks without touching GT. A lot of people are 250+ or die, I just don't need that score to match a moderately competitive field.

well i have path/pharm until end of january then downhill from there...ive taken micro as well....so yes the bulk of it will be busy. Watching pathoma vids and using the pathoma text annotated with my class notes, I hope, will not be that time consuming. I've noticed that during physio and anatomy, having an annotated review book (with any additional tidbits from lecture not in my exam) while going to lecture was the BEST way to do things because it consolidated everything I needed to know by exam time I.e.- my annotated BRS phys condensed the hours and pages of notes I needed to know. moreover, im in a p/f system so yeah i just care about passing.

My point: for pharm and path, I'll solely use my annotated pathoma/BRS phys and pharm GT as my study sources, GT as my drilling machine, and the plethora of Robbins QandA and MAYBE kaplan qbank if necessary...definitely DOABLE...and you're exaggerating my dedication to UWorld...sure until january it'll be rough but doing 5 probs of UWorld a night is doable, heck ill get the iphone uworld app and do them while on the toilet...the point im making is, a slow and steady paced philosophy of tackling UWorld 2x, GT, pathoma thoroughly is clutch.

My class notes are way too detailed to annotate them into a review book, it would clutter my Step 1 studying. Where are you getting 5 Q's a night? That's 25 a week and 100 a month. There are 2000 Uworld questions. Anyway, I'm not at a p/f but I also don't care about getting A's in pre-clinicals.

Bottomline, I feel like there are memory heavy areas and conceptual areas. Spaced repetition probably works better for pure fact recall and doing qbanks is probably better for conceptual application.

 

[GTP]

I just banked 10 cards in embryo and didn't break a sweat. Yeah I'm definitely sticking with gt. I love this program. I better get a 250+ or all hell will break lose. -_-

On a different note, how can you people (jack shepard) afford a year long subscription of three Qbanks?

 

[JackShephard MD]

I just banked 10 cards in embryo and didn't break a sweat. Yeah I'm definitely sticking with gt. I love this program. I better get a 250+ or all hell will break lose. -_-

On a different note, how can you people (jack shepard) afford a year long subscription of three Qbanks?

Planning ahead.

 

[Dr Ypaint]

Does anyone know how a new GT subscription will work with Firecracker coming out soon? My GT trial is about to end and I was planning to buy a 1yr GT plan but I also want to be able to upg to FC without wasting 229$ and paying whatever FC costs.

 

[GTP]

Yea actually I'd like to know this soon since my gt trial is expiring for me tomorrow

 

[dragon529]

FC is basically just an updated version of GT so I'm pretty sure subscriptions for GT can be used on FC.

 

[withrye]

GT has always responded to my emails within 24 hours. A direct email will give you quick and accurate feedback about their pricing plans re: GT to FC merger.

 

[WarriorMD]

So another update on what I think about GT:

I think that if you are non-OCD and have the ability to skip stuff and just mark questions as "don't show me this again" this program will be very helpful to you. You can pretty much bank stuff and just weed out the LY or weed out what you think is last minute crammable and just use the program to master the annoying difficult to memorize stuff.

For me personally I find myself answering Q's daily that are kinda LY and I feel that I'm filling up my brain with more than it can handle so I might be doing more bad then good. If you have the ability to store unlimited amounts of info, go for it! Or if you want that 265 and need every extra detail you can get it won't hurt.

I'm getting a bit bogged down by details that aren't in FA at all and diseases not in FA and I'm way too OCD to skip them. I just hope by trying to master everything I don't end up over extending myself and losing grasp of the HY materials.

 

[GTP]

So another update on what I think about GT:

I think that if you are non-OCD and have the ability to skip stuff and just mark questions as "don't show me this again" this program will be very helpful to you. You can pretty much bank stuff and just weed out the LY or weed out what you think is last minute crammable and just use the program to master the annoying difficult to memorize stuff.

For me personally I find myself answering Q's daily that are kinda LY and I feel that I'm filling up my brain with more than it can handle so I might be doing more bad then good. If you have the ability to store unlimited amounts of info, go for it! Or if you want that 265 and need every extra detail you can get it won't hurt.

I'm getting a bit bogged down by details that aren't in FA at all and diseases not in FA and I'm way too OCD to skip them. I just hope by trying to master everything I don't end up over extending myself and losing grasp of the HY materials.

I'm really worried about details for gt as well. Like, for instance, is it enough to know that extensors of the arm are innervated by the radial nerve? Or do I need to know if it's deep branch or superficial branch? Do I also need to know which muscles have actions other than extension? I just found out that extensor carpi radialis longus also flexes the elbow...wtf? :O

 

[HelpPleaseMD]

GTP. unless its a wtf type of question you will not need to differentiate between the deep and superficial radial nerve. You will need to know the difference between a radial nerve fracture at the midshaft versus the antecubital fossa region via raidal head subluxation or protonator tres entrapment. IMO you would get a better use of your time going through multiple question banks versus doing GT cause GT goes beyond what you need to know on the test.

 

[GTP]

GTP. unless its a wtf type of question you will not need to differentiate between the deep and superficial radial nerve. You will need to know the difference between a radial nerve fracture at the midshaft versus the antecubital fossa region via raidal head subluxation or protonator tres entrapment. IMO you would get a better use of your time going through multiple question banks versus doing GT cause GT goes beyond what you need to know on the test.

this makes me feel better. when do u get ur scores back?

 

[HelpPleaseMD]

either the 19th or the week after that.

 

[TrueAntagonist]

I had a quick question regarding banking questions. I just started this past week and have banked 24 cards or so. I have approximately 200 questions total in the pool. When I look at my daily calender, I see only daily questions going up to 10 days or so but 0's after that. Will some of my problem topics be brought back up in, say, first week of august or even later?

My worry is that I'll rank questions 1s or 2s then will see them throughout July (after which hopefully I'll remember and rank them 4's, 5's). But if I rank them this high, 10 months before my Step 1, will I see them again? I don't want to give myself the false impression of having memorized something now when I may not remember it 10 months down the road.
Thanks!

 

[loveoforganic]

I'm not sure exactly what your question is, but I think this will explain it regardless.

The first time you see a card, you can rank 1-5.

1 - see the card again 2 days later
2 - 3 days later
3 - 7 days
4 - 10 days
5 - 14 days

These might be a bit off, but you get the idea. As you see them again (whenever they end up being due for review), GT has an algorithm that combines your past rankings with your most current ranking to determine when that card should be reviewed again. This could be as soon as 1 day or as long 3 months (constant 5 rankings will net you 3 months, if you don't rate higher than a 4, it won't exceed 2 months).

So yes, no matter what, you'll be seeing every card at least 3 more times before step 1 (unless you rate it "perfect" by checking that box). Practically, you'll be seeing the cards wayyyy more than that unless your memory is phenomenal. I've seen a few cards probably 30x

 

[lrkoehle]

I guess it comes down to if I would rather only single pass something like Uworld or not. I know Lrk didn't even finish Uworld once likely because of GT time commitment.

Just to clarify, not finishing UW was my own fault. I was being really ambitious early on in my dedicated study time because I thought 12-14 hours a day (which quickly became 14-16 hours a day) was enough time to get through sooooo much each day. My plan amongst other things included doing all of the Kaplan Qbank, all of UW, and then at least my incorrects on UW in addition to 4 practice NBME's. With my motivation high early on I quickly powered through the entire Kaplan Qbank in something like 2.5 weeks if memory serves correctly, and that was with 300-400 GT questions a day at that point still. After finishing Kaplan I moved on to UW as well as started doing the practice NBME's. I found that reviewing UW questions was taking me quite a bit longer on average than for Kaplan, so that slowed me down and messed up my schedule. On top of that I hadn't decided exactly how many practice NBME's I wanted to do, so I didn't properly account for that when planning how many questions I needed to do each day. I also just started feeling like I had gotten down the skill of dissecting/deciphering step 1 questions, and so I wanted to focus more on reviewing material by cutting out time spent doing blocks of UW questions. Anyways, we'll find out Wednesday how things worked out for me 🙂xf🙂, but I really don't know that doing the last few hundred UW questions would've made a huge difference (even without those, I had done over 4500 step 1 specific questions, not counting any GT stuff).

Firecracker, huh? A guy dives in head first to his IM rotations and misses a few days of the SDN GT thread and the whole program changes apparently. I can't wait to check out the Step 2 features and see what changes they've made. From the looks of it here, I'd say the people at GT learned a big time lesson from the changes they rolled out last summer, which was a ****ing nightmare...they 'bout ruined the program (I was close to demanding a refund), but in true GT fashion they responded quickly and fixed up the glitches.

Keep studying hard guys, I'm only one week into my outpatient medicine rotation, but I've very quickly realized that the attendings can and will ask you about anything at any level of detail so erring on the side of learning more the first two years is never a bad idea.

 

[JackShephard MD]

Just to clarify, not finishing UW was my own fault. I was being really ambitious early on in my dedicated study time because I thought 12-14 hours a day (which quickly became 14-16 hours a day) was enough time to get through sooooo much each day. My plan amongst other things included doing all of the Kaplan Qbank, all of UW, and then at least my incorrects on UW in addition to 4 practice NBME's. With my motivation high early on I quickly powered through the entire Kaplan Qbank in something like 2.5 weeks if memory serves correctly, and that was with 300-400 GT questions a day at that point still. After finishing Kaplan I moved on to UW as well as started doing the practice NBME's. I found that reviewing UW questions was taking me quite a bit longer on average than for Kaplan, so that slowed me down and messed up my schedule. On top of that I hadn't decided exactly how many practice NBME's I wanted to do, so I didn't properly account for that when planning how many questions I needed to do each day. I also just started feeling like I had gotten down the skill of dissecting/deciphering step 1 questions, and so I wanted to focus more on reviewing material by cutting out time spent doing blocks of UW questions. Anyways, we'll find out Wednesday how things worked out for me 🙂xf🙂, but I really don't know that doing the last few hundred UW questions would've made a huge difference (even without those, I had done over 4500 step 1 specific questions, not counting any GT stuff).

Firecracker, huh? A guy dives in head first to his IM rotations and misses a few days of the SDN GT thread and the whole program changes apparently. I can't wait to check out the Step 2 features and see what changes they've made. From the looks of it here, I'd say the people at GT learned a big time lesson from the changes they rolled out last summer, which was a ****ing nightmare...they 'bout ruined the program (I was close to demanding a refund), but in true GT fashion they responded quickly and fixed up the glitches.

Keep studying hard guys, I'm only one week into my outpatient medicine rotation, but I've very quickly realized that the attendings can and will ask you about anything at any level of detail so erring on the side of learning more the first two years is never a bad idea.

You probably dominated.

I'm not an amazing test taker, so 2-3 passes of Uworld could be beneficial for me.👍

 

[lrkoehle]

You probably dominated.

I'm not an amazing test taker, so 2-3 passes of Uworld could be beneficial for me.👍

, knock on wood, and whatever else brings good luck are all things I'm doing nonstop until Wednesday rolls around...

2-3 passes of UW should be doable. From everything I've read the 2nd and subsequent passes of UW go much faster than the first one, which make that more doable. If you average about 3 blocks of UW a day it would take just over 15 days to do all ~2100 questions, while still leaving you time in the day to do other things. With the second pass of UW going faster, it doesn't seem unreasonable to think you could average 3 blocks of UW per day over the course of 2 passes through the questions to finish in 30-31 days. Just some thoughts.

 

[JackShephard MD]

, knock on wood, and whatever else brings good luck are all things I'm doing nonstop until Wednesday rolls around...

2-3 passes of UW should be doable. From everything I've read the 2nd and subsequent passes of UW go much faster than the first one, which make that more doable. If you average about 3 blocks of UW a day it would take just over 15 days to do all ~2100 questions, while still leaving you time in the day to do other things. With the second pass of UW going faster, it doesn't seem unreasonable to think you could average 3 blocks of UW per day over the course of 2 passes through the questions to finish in 30-31 days. Just some thoughts.

Thanks as always, you've been super helpful on this thread.👍

 

[Chirurg]

Keep studying hard guys, I'm only one week into my outpatient medicine rotation, but I've very quickly realized that the attendings can and will ask you about anything at any level of detail so erring on the side of learning more the first two years is never a bad idea.

so has GT helped you out when you got pimped?
are you still doing GT or you intending to get FC when it comes out?

 

[JackShephard MD]

nm

 

[GTP]

, knock on wood, and whatever else brings good luck are all things I'm doing nonstop until Wednesday rolls around...

2-3 passes of UW should be doable. From everything I've read the 2nd and subsequent passes of UW go much faster than the first one, which make that more doable. If you average about 3 blocks of UW a day it would take just over 15 days to do all ~2100 questions, while still leaving you time in the day to do other things. With the second pass of UW going faster, it doesn't seem unreasonable to think you could average 3 blocks of UW per day over the course of 2 passes through the questions to finish in 30-31 days. Just some thoughts.

How are the wards buddy? 🙂

 

[lrkoehle]

so has GT helped you out when you got pimped?
are you still doing GT or you intending to get FC when it comes out?

While it's not exclusive to GT, being able to recall facts at the drop of a hat is very important. If they ask you a question, they don't give you 60-120 seconds to answer it, especially if it is in front of a patient; you either get it or you don't. Doing rapid fire GT questions helps with that.

I haven't used GT since the day before Step 1 (haven't even looked at it 😎), so it's been almost a month. I do, however, need to get back into studying for shelf exams, so maybe FC can help with that.

How are the wards buddy? 🙂

Well, I was lucky enough to start on outpatient medicine, so it's clinic hours, 8-5, every day with no weekends. Needless to say, that's been pretty sweet. I'm just working directly with attendings all day there and they've all been really cool. In 3 weeks I switch to inpatient medicine at the VA, soooooooooooo...yeah, that will probably be way different with lots of tired interns, residents, and attendings. After 4 weeks of that, I have 4 more weeks of inpatient IM at the university hospital. Then I finish the semester off with family medicine and peds, so I have a pretty easy first half of third year.

 

[CookieMunster]

Hi - new to these forums. Anyway, currently evaluating GT... have approx 8 months before I write the exam. Debating with myself whether I carry on with GT (been trying it for two weeks) or make my own cards with Anki. What do you guys think? I just find GT too buggy in places.

 

[GTP]

Did anyone else notice that gt added an extra 5 cards? Fml lol Jk...I finally bought the one year subscription today. Yay 🙂

 

[GTP]

While it's not exclusive to GT, being able to recall facts at the drop of a hat is very important. If they ask you a question, they don't give you 60-120 seconds to answer it, especially if it is in front of a patient; you either get it or you don't. Doing rapid fire GT questions helps with that.

I haven't used GT since the day before Step 1 (haven't even looked at it 😎), so it's been almost a month. I do, however, need to get back into studying for shelf exams, so maybe FC can help with that.



Well, I was lucky enough to start on outpatient medicine, so it's clinic hours, 8-5, every day with no weekends. Needless to say, that's been pretty sweet. I'm just working directly with attendings all day there and they've all been really cool. In 3 weeks I switch to inpatient medicine at the VA, soooooooooooo...yeah, that will probably be way different with lots of tired interns, residents, and attendings. After 4 weeks of that, I have 4 more weeks of inpatient IM at the university hospital. Then I finish the semester off with family medicine and peds, so I have a pretty easy first half of third year.

Cool beans. Sounds like you are gonna get slammed next semester. But you deserve the break after studying so hard for boards. I'm nervous for your score to come out next week. Hope you killed it 😀

 

[hrain]

So I've encountered a motivation problem...I used to keep up with my questions daily, and I was really good about banking, but this summer I've been finding it hard to keep in the GT schedule. I'm about to enter MS2 and really do want to keep up with GT and use it for both classes and step prep...does anyone have any motivational tips that may have helped them get back into the GT groove after falling into some kind of rut? Thanks in advance!

 

[nopo18]

So I've encountered a motivation problem...I used to keep up with my questions daily, and I was really good about banking, but this summer I've been finding it hard to keep in the GT schedule. I'm about to enter MS2 and really do want to keep up with GT and use it for both classes and step prep...does anyone have any motivational tips that may have helped them get back into the GT groove after falling into some kind of rut? Thanks in advance!

My only advice is do it first thing in the morning, don't ever push cards out. I did that at the beginning of summer and lost my groove. Doing GT first thing in the morning has helped me

 

[GTP]

My only advice is do it first thing in the morning, don't ever push cards out. I did that at the beginning of summer and lost my groove. Doing GT first thing in the morning has helped me

This. I bank all my cards at work so I don't have to deal with it when I get home

 

[Gunneria]

Honestly dont be too ambitious, bank moderately like a few new cards a day...as badly as i wanna voraciously bank the stuff it hurts u in the end workloadwise

 

[Gunneria]

Also bank whenever is the best advice...true gunners review cards while taking a dump, hanging out socially, during free lunches, time in btwn lectures...it all adds up lol

 

[metaldrummer]

Does anyone have a recommendation on what resources to use for more board-style questions that can be broken down by subject to use while going through classes? Do any of the question banks allow you to only do questions on cardiac path, for example, or is my best bet to get Robbins review/RR/BRS path if I want to do specific questions to practice the material as I learn it? I've already started GT, which I love so far, but would like to see as many board-style questions as I can.

(If it matters for recommendations, I'm a DO student going into M2 and will be taking both comlex and usmle.)

 

[JackShephard MD]

Does anyone have a recommendation on what resources to use for more board-style questions that can be broken down by subject to use while going through classes? Do any of the question banks allow you to only do questions on cardiac path, for example, or is my best bet to get Robbins review/RR/BRS path if I want to do specific questions to practice the material as I learn it? I've already started GT, which I love so far, but would like to see as many board-style questions as I can.

(If it matters for recommendations, I'm a DO student going into M2 and will be taking both comlex and usmle.)

All the qbanks will allow you to do questions on only cardiac path (Usmlerx, Uworld, Kaplan).

 

[metaldrummer]

All the qbanks will allow you to do questions on only cardiac path (Usmlerx, Uworld, Kaplan).

Awesome, thank you very much.

 

[nopo18]

Heads up to everyone...pricing increase incoming.

I emailed GT support to ask about Firecracker pricing and was told there would be a significant increase in the pricing when firecracker goes live.. Just a heads up to anyone who needs to extend their subscription through to their Step 1. If anyone still wants to evaluate GT before the platform switches, here is a free trial: http://www.gunnertraining.com/free_trial/1011183

Really disappointed by this. GT is expensive enough right now after last years price increases, I can only imagine what a significant price increase will mean.

 

[GTP]

Heads up to everyone...pricing increase incoming.

I emailed GT support to ask about Firecracker pricing and was told there would be a significant increase in the pricing when firecracker goes live.. Just a heads up to anyone who needs to extend their subscription through to their Step 1. If anyone still wants to evaluate GT before the platform switches, here is a free trial: http://www.gunnertraining.com/free_trial/1011183

Really disappointed by this. GT is expensive enough right now after last years price increases, I can only imagine what a significant price increase will mean.

It does suck. This is why I bought my gt subscription a few days ago. You are exempt from the price change if you buy before it takes effect

 

[nopo18]

It does suck. This is why I bought my gt subscription a few days ago. You are exempt from the price change if you buy before it takes effect

Yup, that was my thinking too. That is why I asked. Pretty crazy though; I am no business-guru so I am not sure how much they could increase it... but to me it seems if they increase too much, then they may reach a point where people will have to decide between GT and Qbanks (depending on the students financial situations of course, but assuming it is loans)

 

[loveoforganic]

I'm surprised they got rid of the long term option. Long term subs seem like they would be great for companies. More money up front for (possibly) slightly more server use.

 

[GTP]

I think they will increase it to at east $250 for the one year subscription.

 

[Brotato]

When they came out in 2009, they charged $50 sign up fee, and $10/month.

 

[nopo18]

I think they will increase it to at east $250 for the one year subscription.

I hope they only increase it that much, but their exact response was that it would "likely [be] quite significant".. who knows what that means. But like Brotato mentioned, their payment scheme/pricing has totally changed in the year or so.

I'm sure these price increases helped push out a lot of this new content. But a price increase is not going to help justify GT's use for 3rd yr/Step 2.. there is not much free time to do daily questions/bank things, add the price increase and I don't think I'll be choosing the do GT over Step2 Uworld bank and rotation specific review books. We'll see though, I love the platform so I'd be willing to give it a try.

 

[thegame11]

Hi - new to these forums. Anyway, currently evaluating GT... have approx 8 months before I write the exam. Debating with myself whether I carry on with GT (been trying it for two weeks) or make my own cards with Anki. What do you guys think? I just find GT too buggy in places.

You can download Anki set for FA. There are about 6800 cards. I like Anki b/c I can modify the cards as my <3 desires.

 

[ru4real1666]

When do these price bumps take place? I was thinking of getting GT for a year before it gets bumped up. Also, I probably won't be getting it again after the price bump either. I feel there are enough resources available where for the amount of money, I'd be able to get an adequate preparation.

 

[GTP]

When do these price bumps take place? I was thinking of getting GT for a year before it gets bumped up. Also, I probably won't be getting it again after the price bump either. I feel there are enough resources available where for the amount of money, I'd be able to get an adequate preparation.

Sometime at the end of july

 

[rlevitin]

Sometime at the end of july

Damn... I don't start MS1 til beginning of September, I was hoping to get the free trial mid-Sept/Oct and potentially try going along with classes, but if the prices jump up that might be a pain =(

My timing seems to be JUSTTT off. I don't think I'd be willing to commit to a year-long subscription this far before even STARTING school.

 

[GTP]

Damn... I don't start MS1 til beginning of September, I was hoping to get the free trial mid-Sept/Oct and potentially try going along with classes, but if the prices jump up that might be a pain =(

My timing seems to be JUSTTT off. I don't think I'd be willing to commit to a year-long subscription this far before even STARTING school.

Don't take that estimate as the word of God. This is what I was told by the gt support on fb. I reckon that firecracker will be extensively tested before they release it to avoid the dissatisfaction that occurred last year. My guess is that it will be later than july, but maybe not September. Can you start the free trial now? I can send you one if you like.

 

[Gunneria]

100 percent banked in micro! Micro, which is like 15% of Gt is easily the worst subject to have banled...too much info and straight up blind memorization

 

[nopo18]

100 percent banked in micro! Micro, which is like 15% of Gt is easily the worst subject to have banled...too much info and straight up blind memorization

I know what you mean! My worst has to
be biochem pathways though! Those are killing me- they feel like blind memorization as well