Gunners...

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We have a girl at my school with a 3.3 GPA (no offense to anyone on here), but she always carries around her MCAT book and talks about how she studies for hours on hours every single day. She tells me that the pre-med life/road is long, hard, and virtually impossible to accomplish. She is a junior. I am a sophomore with an early acceptance interview in two weeks.
 
We have a girl at my school with a 3.3 GPA (no offense to anyone on here), but she always carries around her MCAT book and talks about how she studies for hours on hours every single day. She tells me that the pre-med life/road is long, hard, and virtually impossible to accomplish. She is a junior. I am a sophomore with an early acceptance interview in two weeks.

You're right. There is definitely a gunner at your school...
 
How does that make me a gunner? Darn, sorry for my success in the first year and a half :/ What have you done?

You can check my MDApps for what I've done. And comparing yourself to the other students and putting them down for their failures (low GPA, struggles with studying) while touting your own successes is pretty gunner-like behavior.
 
You can check my MDApps for what I've done. And comparing yourself to the other students and putting them down for their failures (low GPA, struggles with studying) while touting your own successes is pretty gunner-like behavior.
I thought a gunner was someone who purposely sabotaged others for their own benefits in school? Sorry I'm not humble enough to let a 3.3 give me advice on how to be successful haha...
 
I thought a gunner was someone who purposely sabotaged others for their own benefits in school? Sorry I'm not humble enough to let a 3.3 give me advice on how to be successful haha...

Don't have to take her advice. Don't need to make fun of her online either. She never sabotaged you. And Just because she was wrong doesn't make her a gunner. I feel bad for her; she is trying as hard as she can but might not end up being able to achieve what was likely a lifetime goal.
 
Don't have to take her advice. Don't need to make fun of her online either. She never sabotaged you. And Just because she was wrong doesn't make her a gunner. I feel bad for her; she is trying as hard as she can but might not end up being able to achieve what was likely a lifetime goal.
I respect that comment. I guess I just need to step down off of my pedestal and keep doing what I'm doing while keeping my mouth shut. It's hard at times, though. I'll learn eventually haha
 
We have a girl at my school with a 3.3 GPA (no offense to anyone on here), but she always carries around her MCAT book and talks about how she studies for hours on hours every single day. She tells me that the pre-med life/road is long, hard, and virtually impossible to accomplish. She is a junior. I am a sophomore with an early acceptance interview in two weeks.
There was a girl who carried around mcat subject books to every class. She swears she was going to study for two years while in post bac to "ace" the mcat.


I wished her good luck.
 
I respect that comment. I guess I just need to step down off of my pedestal and keep doing what I'm doing while keeping my mouth shut. It's hard at times, though. I'll learn eventually haha

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"It's hard at times, though"...to have the discipline to refrain from marginalizing a struggling student? Perhaps you aren't mentally ready for that early acceptance heelsfan. No offense intended, but if your posts on this forum are reflective of your true attitudes then going into a profession that provides service for patients who look up to you as a doctor may be a bad idea for both parties involved (more so for your patients).

I will go back to lurking now.
 
Why does anyone care if someones a gunner or not, seriously? Did it ever occur to you guys why someone is a gunner? You think they have real joyful lives outside of their textbooks and GPA calculators? Find me one that does and i'll say I was wrong. I once asked a guy what material the professor covered last class (I was sick). He smiled at me and said, "I can't tell you that the curve isn't so nice." This kid never talked to anyone but it was clear he was doing very well in class. You ask how was it so clear? Everytime we received an exam back he'd hold it up in the light as if he was farsighted. (he got A's ALL the time). A few weeks later an attractive girl asked if he can help him out with a concept. His eyes lit up and he replied, "where do you want to meet". (mumbling the entire time) She replied, "ahhh I was thinking you can just help me right now". Oh the irony.
 
Last night I met a junior who is studying for the MCAT. And Step 1.

He thinks that by studying USMLE already, he'll have an edge on cardiothoracic surgery.

I always thought people like that were a joke, until I met one in the flesh...
People like that are still a joke.....
 
I respect that comment. I guess I just need to step down off of my pedestal and keep doing what I'm doing while keeping my mouth shut. It's hard at times, though. I'll learn eventually haha

1) Don't worry, someone in your medical training will knock you right off that pedestal faster than you can imagine.
2) You'd be well served to learn that real quick...like yesterday.
 
Last night I met a junior who is studying for the MCAT. And Step 1.

He thinks that by studying USMLE already, he'll have an edge on cardiothoracic surgery.

I always thought people like that were a joke, until I met one in the flesh...

I would remind him that his Step 1 study time should probably be used for MCAT studying, since he'll never take the former if he blows the latter.
 
Once i am done with my mcat, my plan is to start studying for the M1 classes. I'll find out the classes that seem to challenge most M1 students and try to learn what I can before I start in my free time - no pressure. Is this a good idea or don't waste my time? Who has done this?
 
peoples be studying for step 1 while i amd trying to think what should i study for my orgo exam... but seriously tho:

cant think of MCAT i am failing pre-reqs
cant think of getting in med-school before acing MCAT
cant think of step 1 before being accepted in med-schol

get a grip ppl!!!
 
I had my first encounter with a gunner-kid in the wild the other day. There's this competitive program most premeds are applying to right now at my school. This one guy emails the Prog. Director on the sly and sends him a LOR from a prof even though they aren't part of the app and then tells people about it like 1 day before app deadline. I feel terrible for saying this since I have nothing against the guy but I hope it's an auto-reject for being a jerk.
 
I had my first encounter with a gunner-kid in the wild the other day. There's this competitive program most premeds are applying to right now at my school. This one guy emails the Prog. Director on the sly and sends him a LOR from a prof even though they aren't part of the app and then tells people about it like 1 day before app deadline. I feel terrible for saying this since I have nothing against the guy but I hope it's an auto-reject for being a jerk.

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Once i am done with my mcat, my plan is to start studying for the M1 classes. I'll find out the classes that seem to challenge most M1 students and try to learn what I can before I start in my free time - no pressure. Is this a good idea or don't waste my time? Who has done this?

Hi @malaika

I feel really bad every time I roll my eyes when someone says something like this but don't take it personally, it's not because of you. It's because I've thought of this, my friends have thought of this, then we realized how bad of an idea this was and then now I keep seeing how other people start thinking about pre-studying and that just makes me :eyeroll:
...I feel this is where 90% of the harshness on SDN comes from.

Anyways,
here's why it's absolutely a HORRIBLE IDEA.


1. It's not efficient. In medical school, you will be under time constraints, have lectures to go through, and professors to help you through all of it. Why would you try studying now when it you will simply be learning the same stuff but way faster once you are in medical school?

2. The material is not really THAT hard. I've asked around and from what I've seen, the material requires little conceptual thought and if you did reasonably well on the MCAT, you will not struggle to understand the stuff at least. The trouble is the volume, not the material.

3. The material is boring...Yes, it is. I know that sounds blasphemous coming from a future physician but here's the thing. Which one will make you more marketable as a person? Learning a programming language/foreign language/new skill or spending your last free days memorizing the Kreb's Cycle so once you go to medical school, you can do it again?


If I tried self-studying, this is what would happen:

I'd waste a little under a week's work on a $300 book, read a few pages, get stuck on page 7, stop reading it, come back to it a month later after the page is covered it food stains/water stains, and is permanently folded to that page and the whole time, I'd be stressing myself out for nothing...
 
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