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[jocg27]

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I am an m2...So, it's not like I'm far along in the process or anything, but I can at least look at the class behind me a bit now.

And I've realized...the one thing more annoying than gunners in your class are gunners in a younger class. I don't know why this is the case, but it just is. Anyone share this perception?

 

[Ashers]

I am an m2...So, it's not like I'm far along in the process or anything, but I can at least look at the class behind me a bit now.

And I've realized...the one thing more annoying than gunners in your class are gunners in a younger class. I don't know why this is the case, but it just is. Anyone share this perception?

Yep. Some of the M1s scare me. I just tell them to relax and make sure to sleep before exams. =)

 

[evade]

Oh, man, I hear that! I seriously want to slip them some valium.

 

[AmoryBlaine]

and to think we all looked like that a few years ago?

seriously, the class above me used to say how we "freaked out way more than they ever did" and talked about how much they went boozing the weekend before a test. It's all BS.

Now that I'm an M3 there is this idiot M4 sub-i who constantly tells me how easy we have it (there have been some MINOR adjustments to the clerkship) and how none of us would have survived if we had had to go through what he did.

👎

 

[SanDiegoSOD]

Although only a month into med school, it has already become clear that the gunners in the class are the ones that consistently complain about gunners. Anyone else notice this?

 

[Doctor Bagel]

Although only a month into med school, it has already become clear that the gunners in the class are the ones that consistently complain about gunners. Anyone else notice this?

Hmm, interesting. I haven't quite figured out who the gunners are, or even exactly what a gunner is, which I should know since I went to law school, a supposed gunner haven. What are the classic gunner trademarks? Do you have to screw other people or try to look better to be one? Or do you just have to study all the time?

 

[evade]

Although only a month into med school, it has already become clear that the gunners in the class are the ones that consistently complain about gunners. Anyone else notice this?

It's true.

Really, though, it's not "gunners" in the first-year class that I'm worried about. It's that they all seem so. . .well. . .panicked. I am certain that I looked just like that when I first started, but it makes me sad that they have to suffer like we did. In a way, they're suffering more, because there have been schedule changes (the first years start way earlier than they used to) that make it so we can't be there to support them like the second-year class has done in the past.

 

[MWillie]

Although only a month into med school, it has already become clear that the gunners in the class are the ones that consistently complain about gunners. Anyone else notice this?

I hate all those damn gunners!!!!
Gunners ruin it for the rest of us.

 

[NY Musicologist]

Hmm, interesting. I haven't quite figured out who the gunners are, or even exactly what a gunner is, which I should know since I went to law school, a supposed gunner haven. What are the classic gunner trademarks? Do you have to screw other people or try to look better to be one? Or do you just have to study all the time?

There was a whole thread not many months ago devoted to defining "gunner"--search for it--it was funny and frightening at the same time...

 

[Mac11]

I hate all those damn gunners!!!!
Gunners ruin it for the rest of us.

In the Lou... washing yourself. Sorry for stalking you on the boards but I cant help myself

 

[boulux]

I hate all those damn gunners!!!!
Gunners ruin it for the rest of us.

but all of you had to be a gunner at some point to get the required GPA and MCAT score.

 

[Dr.LeoSpaceman]

If you don't know who the gunners are, then you are probably a gunner.

Just kidding. You will figure it out pretty quick though.

 

[Mr. Freeze]

but all of you had to be a gunner at some point to get the required GPA and MCAT score.

it has prolly been discussed ad nauseum, but you can do well and not be gunner-ish. You can fail and have a gunner mindset. To me, that mentality is be first, no matter what, do whatever you can to make sure you're alone at the top. I think it has a WHOLE lot more to do with what you are willing to do to set yourself apart than it does actual numbers.

 

[Law2Doc]

Hmm, interesting. I haven't quite figured out who the gunners are, or even exactly what a gunner is, which I should know since I went to law school, a supposed gunner haven. What are the classic gunner trademarks? Do you have to screw other people or try to look better to be one? Or do you just have to study all the time?

The true definition of gunner, as discussed ad nauseum in the prior thread with a variety of examples, is someone who finds ways to gain advantage for themselves to the detriment of their classmates. Both components are required (self benefit and others' detriment). These characters absolutely could be found at most law schools as well, so it's surprising you missed them.

The phase has been bastardized by some, who call hard workers gunners, the opposite of slackers. But this isn't really accurate usage -- a gunner is far more insidious.

 

[beefballs]

The true definition of gunner, as discussed ad nauseum in the prior thread with a variety of examples, is someone who finds ways to gain advantage for themselves to the detriment of their classmates. Both components are required (self benefit and others' detriment). These characters absolutely could be found at most law schools as well, so it's surprising you missed them.

The phase has been bastardized by some, who call hard workers gunners, the opposite of slackers. But this isn't really accurate usage -- a gunner is far more insidious.

so as long as your not screwing over others your not a gunner?

 

[Law2Doc]

so as long as your not screwing over others your not a gunner?

Precisely. Working hard is not a sin. Getting to the top of the ladder by pulling others down is.

 

[DreamLover]

Although only a month into med school, it has already become clear that the gunners in the class are the ones that consistently complain about gunners. Anyone else notice this?

That made me laugh

 

[Doctor Bagel]

The true definition of gunner, as discussed ad nauseum in the prior thread with a variety of examples, is someone who finds ways to gain advantage for themselves to the detriment of their classmates. Both components are required (self benefit and others' detriment). These characters absolutely could be found at most law schools as well, so it's surprising you missed them.

The phase has been bastardized by some, who call hard workers gunners, the opposite of slackers. But this isn't really accurate usage -- a gunner is far more insidious.

Oh, I'm sure they were there, and I was just oblivious. We tended to call the people who asked annoying questions gunners, but lots of those people were actually nice and helpful.

I like the definition being limited to people who actually try to hurt others in their quest to do well.

 

[indo]

Although only a month into med school, it has already become clear that the gunners in the class are the ones that consistently complain about gunners. Anyone else notice this?

Si, and they constantly make anti-gunner declarations. I don't care if people are gunners or not. They're the ones who have to make the sacrifices and put in the extra effort or whatever they do. Their priorities dictate their lives so more power to 'em. I, personally, have to act like a gunner just to pass. But, you won't find me in the front row.

 

[Law2Doc]

Si, and they constantly make anti-gunner declarations. I don't care if people are gunners or not. They're the ones who have to make the sacrifices and put in the extra effort or whatever they do. Their priorities dictate their lives so more power to 'em. I, personally, have to act like a gunner just to pass. But, you won't find me in the front row.

You never have to act like a gunner to pass (if you are using the actual definition of gunner). Gunners are not merely those who study hard and do well. To actually be a gunner, you also need to make sure others don't. And a true gunner wouldn't sit in the front row, because you cannot see what materials your classmates are looking at, etc. during the lecture if you are in front of them.

 

[Acherona]

How can I be a gunner? Once again it is the eve of an exam and i find myself reading lectures for the first time. Sigh. Even if I could be 1/2 or 1/4 gunner I would be happy.

For example, I'd like to reverse the following:
Pleasure from feeling competent <<<<<<<<< Pleasure from not reading the same sentence 5x

 

[jocg27]

These characters absolutely could be found at most law schools as well, so it's surprising you missed them.

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Where are they worse, Law2doc, med or law school?

I realize they're pretty different situations, courses, expectations, etc...But bottom line, where did you experience more hardcore gunning?

Personally, I've heard some nasty horror stories about law students...but its all rumor, really - I actually have no idea.

This question may have come up in some of the other gunner related discussions...But some of them are pretty long and I'm not crazy about sifting through them for stuff that may or may not be in there. But sorry if you've answered this already.

 

[getunconcsious]

I am an m2...So, it's not like I'm far along in the process or anything, but I can at least look at the class behind me a bit now.

And I've realized...the one thing more annoying than gunners in your class are gunners in a younger class. I don't know why this is the case, but it just is. Anyone share this perception?

Yes, they are awful. But a lot of them don't realize that the exam won't be *that* horrible yet. After the first round of exams, a lot of them will become board-certified slackers like myself.

 

[Law2Doc]

Where are they worse, Law2doc, med or law school?

I realize they're pretty different situations, courses, expectations, etc...But bottom line, where did you experience more hardcore gunning?

Personally, I've heard some nasty horror stories about law students...but its all rumor, really - I actually have no idea.

This question may have come up in some of the other gunner related discussions...But some of them are pretty long and I'm not crazy about sifting through them for stuff that may or may not be in there. But sorry if you've answered this already.

I'm not sure there is a worse -- bad is bad. But since law glamorizes the cutthroat shark/baracuda type personality a bit more, you do see the fangs come out more frequently. Thus the gunners in law are a bit more visible. I personally think invisible is worse.

 

[ils]

Don't Hate--


Appreciate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Church]

I dunno. I didn't think we had any in my class, until the afternoon before the first big test. A person who'd previously been friendly came over and said some things that played a mindf**k on me, which I allowed to disturb my studying.

Before going home, I told her that she could say that a week before a test, and I would think it was funny. but if she did it the day before again, I'd shank her @$$. I think she took it well.

 

[RxnMan]

I...I didn't think we had any in my class, until the afternoon before the first big test. A person who'd previously been friendly came over and said some things that played a mindf**k on me, which I allowed to disturb my studying...

You have to put things into perspective. I was in a study session earlier this week and I came away feeling terribly unprepared for our upcoming test. Then I realized the guy I studied with had had a career before med school in the field we're studying. It makes all the sense in the world that he should know this stuff backwards and forwards!

Realizing this, I felt much better, accepted his advice on the weak points in my knowledge, and changed my study focus.

 

[erasable]

Gunner will always be around. You might as well accept them as a perpetual source of entertainment.

 

[PoorMD]

You never have to act like a gunner to pass (if you are using the actual definition of gunner). Gunners are not merely those who study hard and do well. To actually be a gunner, you also need to make sure others don't. And a true gunner wouldn't sit in the front row, because you cannot see what materials your classmates are looking at, etc. during the lecture if you are in front of them.

lol! I used to really get worked up about gunners, especially the "flawless all-americans" who somehow managed to quarterback their college football team, make straight A's in college, look great, physically fit, always smiling, have the affection of their peers (classmates seem to love them) etc.. AND make honors in med school. an interesting thing happened to me however... over the summer, i worked in a rather intriguing research project where I guess I was blessed with a fantastic PI. we came up with a statistically significant curative therapy for our study population, one that had not been utilized or studied in the past! this may seem random, but that summer experience helped me to realize that life in medicine is all about your niche. I found my niche over the summer and my specialty of choice!

with that knowledge, I have been able to focus on what matters more to me, what I need in terms of grades and boards scores, so I can sort of politely ignore the all-american gunners who seem to lurk in the shadows of any moment of self-doubt. it's been really eye opening, and my point here is that you need to find your niche.

 

[beefballs]

good to see your doing well