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[chloe5]

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Again...
Why do you want to become a doctor?
And what is this about "the world" beating you?
Some of the best advice you have received and are choosing to ignore is that you should take some time out to think things through clearly. What's the point in continuing to be a less than mediocre pre-med student and dealing with numerous "nervous breakdowns" as you call them?

Originally posted by silver_eyes
i appreacite ur guys advice, but i am NOT going to give up pre-med. that means, the world has beaten me. There is nothing that is going to come in between me and becoming a doctor...nothing. I am not taking ochem in the summer to as u say "save myself". i have to take it no matter what or els ei will get behind. i couldnt take it this year cause i didnt have enough time and i had too mnany units.

-me

🙄

 

[DW]

Originally posted by chloe5
Again...
Why do you want to become a doctor?
And what is this about "the world" beating you?
Some of the best advice you have received and are choosing to ignore is that you should take some time out to think things through clearly. What's the point in continuing to be a less than mediocre pre-med student and dealing with numerous "nervous breakdowns" as you call them?

🙄

have you not realized you're talking to a brick wall

i'm putting a DNR order for this thread

 

[chloe5]

Oh yeah
Thanks, DW, for the reality check!
I was trying to be helpful I guess

😛

Originally posted by DW
have you not realized you're talking to a brick wall

i'm putting a DNR order for this thread

 

[silver_eyes]

Originally posted by chloe5
Again...
Why do you want to become a doctor?
And what is this about "the world" beating you?
Some of the best advice you have received and are choosing to ignore is that you should take some time out to think things through clearly. What's the point in continuing to be a less than mediocre pre-med student and dealing with numerous "nervous breakdowns" as you call them?

🙄

I want to become a doctor, because i think it is a very rewarding job. I like to help people. i am a very caring, compassionate, understanding person. I wanted to become a doctor ever since i was like 5. I know i can do it. yea i messed up on my grades, but i am not going let those haunt me. ill retake the classes and do way better in them and get a's and b's. I believe i have the determination and the stamina to pursue my aspiration. I have volunteered in the hospital all 4 years of high school with over 500 hours of volunteer service. I have seen soo many things, good, bad, sad and happy. I want to help people and let them life happy, healthy lives. Want them to see their children graduate from high school, college, get married, have their first grandchild. I know this is what I want to do with my life.

I will NOT drop pre-med even though i am a "less than mediocre pre-med student."

 

[silver_eyes]

Originally posted by DW
have you not realized you're talking to a brick wall

i'm putting a DNR order for this thread

thank you for ur EXTREMELEY KIND advice.🙄 🙄

 

[doepug]

I'll cosign the DNR for this thread.

The OP is clearly not interested in salvaging her future.

 

[SouthernGirl]

Originally posted by silver_eyes
i appreacite ur guys advice, but i am NOT going to give up pre-med. that means, the world has beaten me. There is nothing that is going to come in between me and becoming a doctor...nothing.

***SouthernGirl starts to sing a little Dave Matthews***

"And if you hold on tight to what you think is your thing, you might find you're missing all the rest..." 😛

I understand what you're saying, because I'm a "career pre-med" too, but have you taken classes from a variety of other fields? This was the best thing I did as an undergrad, because even if you don't find any other area you want to pursue as a career, then you still learn tons of cool things which help you deal with people and open up a new view of the world to you. So if you haven't already, go take some stuff like art, political science, econ, music, history, etc. Take advantage of your undergrad education not just as a prep for med school, but also a time to get a well-rounded education.

 

[Jumpu]

Originally posted by silver_eyes
I will NOT drop pre-med even though i am a "less than mediocre pre-med student."

Arrrg!
I'm sure you believe the strength of your resolve will be sufficient enough in actualizing your dream of being a doctor, HOWEVER how do you propose to get there? Is it clicking yet or not? Which adcom will look favorably at a 2.0 GPA? Curious minds would like to know.

PS please explore the road not taken...like studying (which may feel like the world beating down on you) 🙄

 

[DrMom]

Originally posted by silver_eyes
There is nothing that is going to come in between me and becoming a doctor...nothing.

Then you should be ready to pick yourself up by your bootstraps, study hard, improve your GPA, & quit blaming others for your failures. Getting this taken care of will keep you on the road to med school.

 

[silver_eyes]

Originally posted by SouthernGirl
***SouthernGirl starts to sing a little Dave Matthews***

"And if you hold on tight to what you think is your thing, you might find you're missing all the rest..." 😛

I understand what you're saying, because I'm a "career pre-med" too, but have you taken classes from a variety of other fields? This was the best thing I did as an undergrad, because even if you don't find any other area you want to pursue as a career, then you still learn tons of cool things which help you deal with people and open up a new view of the world to you. So if you haven't already, go take some stuff like art, political science, econ, music, history, etc. Take advantage of your undergrad education not just as a prep for med school, but also a time to get a well-rounded education.

Yup i took other classes. too many science classes can kill ya. lol. i took history of medicine, world religions and 2 enlgish classes.

 

[silver_eyes]

Originally posted by DrMom
Then you should be ready to pick yourself up by your bootstraps, study hard, improve your GPA, & quit blaming others for your failures. Getting this taken care of will keep you on the road to med school.

clearly you havent read my previous. i did say that i will study more. And yes Jumpu, i do study. what the hell do u think i do all day? how do u think i got into uop? NOT without studying my butt off in high school. i had a 4.1 in high school. But college is hard. The only thing that is keeping my gpa barley a 2.0 is becasue of my math classes. other than that i am near or above a 3.0. pssh. u guys TOTALLY have the wrong impression of me. and Jumpu, if u dont have anything nice to say dont say it at all. isnt that what ur mommy taught u?🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄

 

[Beagle]

Why do you have to be a doctor? Have you ever considered other health professions?
There are plenty of occupations that are rewarding and allow you to be compassionate, caring, and understanding.
What makes you so glued on being a doctor? Is it the name you are after?
Just curious-
Also, I question taking Ochem in two summers. It is better to complete it in one summer. What you learn first semester you will HAVE to know the second semester. So it's in your best interest to have everything fresh in your mind at one time!
Ochem also sucks so it's better to get it over with ASAP!!!!

 

[silver_eyes]

Originally posted by Beagle
Why do you have to be a doctor? Have you ever considered other health professions?
There are plenty of occupations that are rewarding and allow you to be compassionate, caring, and understanding.
What makes you so glued on being a doctor? Is it the name you are after?
Just curious-
Also, I question taking Ochem in two summers. It is better to complete it in one summer. What you learn first semester you will HAVE to know the second semester. So it's in your best interest to have everything fresh in your mind at one time!
Ochem also sucks so it's better to get it over with ASAP!!!!

hey jen,
well i want to become a doctor cause i owe it to my family, esp my dad. he wnated to become a doctor ever sinc ehe was young. when he came to usa, shortly after his dad died. so, in our culture since he was the oldest out of 4, he had to support his brothers and mom. so he was working like 3 jobs and couldnt become a doctor cause of that.

ok..i think either ur are confused or i have confused u. lol. i will take ochem..the whole yera of it thsi summer..one summer. not half of it thsi summer and the other half the next. 2 summer sessions...ill be done and over with it befor ei start my junior year. get it?

 

[Mike59]

Originally posted by silver_eyes
hey jen,
well i want to become a doctor cause i owe it to my family, esp my dad. he wnated to become a doctor ever sinc ehe was young.
?

No offense but this is an absolutely ridiculous reason to become a doctor. Realize that physicans are trusted with the lives of other individuals. You cannot enter this profession because somebody else couldn't do it. In some ways, wanting to gain admission to a medical school should be a self-fulfilling act above all else.

Your occupation is something you will be stuck with long after your family is gone. You really need to think about why you want this. Choose for yourself and choose wisely.

 

[silver_eyes]

Originally posted by Mike59
No offense but this is an absolutely ridiculous reason to become a doctor. Realize that physicans are trusted with the lives of other individuals. You cannot enter this profession because somebody else couldn't do it. In some ways, wanting to gain admission to a medical school should be a self-fulfilling act above all else.

Your occupation is something you will be stuck with long after your family is gone. You really need to think about why you want this. Choose for yourself and choose wisely.

i said i am doing it for my dad and myself. i cant do something in lif eif i dont feel like doing it myself.

 

[ReVert]

Hey...if your school sux....you might want to transfer to the nearest University......one of my friends had like a 1.0 GPA...He transferred to another school and now has a 4.00+ GPA.

If you say your teachers are racist....I hear you....these things are common in some areas of the country..

You must realize that grades arent everything....there is about a million "legal" ways to beat the system.....and if you are destined to be a physician...you WILL be a physician...

P.S : if Your dad wanted to be a doctor ...thats good....as long as you want to genuinely be a doctor..as well...

Good luck...cheer up......life aint all that bad...many ups and downs...🙂

(a good strategy for boosting your gpa is like overloading your summer schedule with "easy A" junk classes....like 14-18 credits worth...and make sure you get straight A's)

 

[mellantro]

silver_eyes

I usually lurk but I wanted to offer my 2 cents. Most people that have posted have given you great advice, and I hope you heed alot of it. You may not like it but it's the tough love that will help you get into gear. It's good that you have such a strong belief in yourself, but also remember - as I am sure you must know in the back of your mind - that you must be the one to take the initiative. If you turn it around, I bet you no one will be happier than SDNers on this board. We're all here to pick each other up, but on the recognition that, in the end, all we can offer are words of advice. You are gonna be the one to prove the naysayers wrong.

Forget the teachers, the low grades, everything, and just try to start with a clean slate. THIS IS IMPORTANT IMHO --> Either take classes outside of the sciences, or limit yourself to one a semester. Slowly start building up that gpa-- but now. Realize that organic chem in one summer is going to pretty much be hell. You won't have a life, and can't afford to have one, and you want to make A's, since your prior grades were low. If you can turn it around starting with o-chem, then you're slowly on the right track. O-chem is probably the most important class adcoms look at, as it is a good prediction of how much memorization and analysis-intensive med school will be.

Also, med school isn't a race. It doesn't matter if you fall behind in taking your pre-reqs. Trust me, in 3-5 years, you may have a whole new view of the world. Take your time.

Becoming a doctor is a privilege. There are YEARS of hard work, sweat, tears, pain, etc before you may see the payoff (emotionally). Make sure you are prepared for that reality.

Sorry for the long post, and I wish you nothing but the best. Just realize that maybe the best thing for you right now is not to be on this message board, but working on achieving your goal--good luck!

 

[AznTrojan]

silver eyes..

if you can't even take g chem and bio over the course of 1 year.. than i suggest you DO NOT take o chem in 1 summer.. although not necessarily the hardest class in the world.. it requires a lot of dedication and hard work to understand the basic material..

earn better grades in freshman pre-med science before even thinking of taking o chem.. it's entirely different than g chem...

take baby steps.. because if you screw up this spring semester.. and than screw up this summer.. your all-important science gpa will screw you over for med school applications.. you would most definitely need a post-bac to raise your science and non-science gpa

if you want to become a physician bad enough.. you will become one... but you need to think practically.. get your head out the clouds.. you are not a CT surgeon.. you are not even close.. concentrate on this semester before planning your summer..

 

[silver_eyes]

Originally posted by ReVert
Hey...if your school sux....you might want to transfer to the nearest University......one of my friends had like a 1.0 GPA...He transferred to another school and now has a 4.00+ GPA.

If you say your teachers are racist....I hear you....these things are common in some areas of the country..

You must realize that grades arent everything....there is about a million "legal" ways to beat the system.....and if you are destined to be a physician...you WILL be a physician...

P.S : if Your dad wanted to be a doctor ...thats good....as long as you want to genuinely be a doctor..as well...

Good luck...cheer up......life aint all that bad...many ups and downs...🙂

(a good strategy for boosting your gpa is like overloading your summer schedule with "easy A" junk classes....like 14-18 credits worth...and make sure you get straight A's)

ReVert,
thank you for making my day! And thank u for beliving me. u are obviously the only person that understands my situation.

well to me, ochem isnt that hard. i saw my roomie study for it and kind of looked at her book its not that bad and it isnt impossible. she got a B+ in the class. she didnt memorize the rxns...thats impossible or the mechanisims..just the gen rules. to me, taking ochem and only ochem in the summer is waay eaiser than taking it with 2 or 3 more classes.


oh and who said i couldnt get though my g bio or g chem classes? I DID! the scienc epart is ok. the math gpa is the one that is getting to me.

ok, here is my schedule for spring 2003:
1. gchem part 2....just taking over the lecture part. i got an A in lab
2. genetics
3. physics part 2

summer 2003:
1. ochem part 1
2. o chem part 2 (will compelete in 2 months)
3. last month of summer either will take physics over again..part 1 or wait until fall 2003 or take at least 1 math class over again.

what u htink?

 

[Kovox]

Originally posted by ReVert
(a good strategy for boosting your gpa is like overloading your summer schedule with "easy A" junk classes....like 14-18 credits worth...and make sure you get straight A's)

Uh, on AMCAS, GPA is seperated into Science GPA, Other GPA and Cumulative GPA.....

Getting "A" in 'junk' classes isn't going to boost her science GPA...besides, there is no 'junk' science class.

 

[Kovox]

Originally posted by silver_eyes
ok, here is my schedule for spring 2003:
1. gchem part 2....just taking over the lecture part. i got an A in lab
2. genetics
3. physics part 2

summer 2003:
1. ochem part 1
2. o chem part 2 (will compelete in 2 months)
3. last month of summer either will take physics over again..part 1 or wait until fall 2003 or take at least 1 math class over again.

what u htink?

DW/doepug, I couldn't resist posting 🙁 The voices in my head, they are telling me "POST POST"

Silver_eyes, did you read azn_trojan's post?! You're wanting to run before you learn to walk. O-Chem is harder than G-Chem. If you can't handle G-Chem in a year's course, how are you going to handle O-Chem in 2 months?

In my previous post, I was the one who told you "attitude" is everything about getting into medical school...what I meant was a good, positive, "i will listen to good advice" attitude, not the "people don't tell me what I want to hear so I ignore them" attitude.

You're rushing through things, you need to slow the heck down. On a side note, I am not you so I don't know if you truly want to be a physician, but you really need to sit back and ask yourself if this is what you want or if this is what your parent's told you, you wanted.

You can work TWICE as hard in something you DON'T LOVE and not succeed, or you can work 1/2 as hard in something you do LOVE, and succeed...you make the call.

 

[Beagle]

Originally posted by silver_eyes

ok, here is my schedule for spring 2003:
1. gchem part 2....just taking over the lecture part. i got an A in lab
2. genetics
3. physics part 2

summer 2003:
1. ochem part 1
2. o chem part 2 (will compelete in 2 months)
3. last month of summer either will take physics over again..part 1 or wait until fall 2003 or take at least 1 math class over again.

what u htink? [/B]

Hey Silver_eyes!!!
I think next semester classes sound great! Just study extra hard!
For Ochem over the summer---I would suggest taking it at any other university BUT UOP. In case you fail summer Ochem, UOP will never find out because you don't have to send them a transcript. So even if you don't get the grade you want during the summer, it will be good practice for the fall semester. Maybe you need to get out of northern california. How about taking Ochem in another state or city where you're stuck in a dorm with none of the distractions of home?
Also, just stick with Ochem over the summer. When the two months of summer are over, you are going to be soooooo dead tired that you won't want to look at another book!
Goodluck !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just keep your head up kiddo!
😀

 

[AznTrojan]

wait.. you're "getting though" g chem but you have to take the lecture over again this semester??? something isn't adding up..

btw.. o chem is not just memorization.. it's learning concepts.. like physics.. which apparently you didn't do so hot in this semester.. although o chem isn't that hard.. it's much more difficult than physics..

DON"T take o chem over the summer.. unless you want to start making plans for a post-bac..

Originally posted by silver_eyes
ReVert,
thank you for making my day! And thank u for beliving me. u are obviously the only person that understands my situation.

well to me, ochem isnt that hard. i saw my roomie study for it and kind of looked at her book its not that bad and it isnt impossible. she got a B+ in the class. she didnt memorize the rxns...thats impossible or the mechanisims..just the gen rules. to me, taking ochem and only ochem in the summer is waay eaiser than taking it with 2 or 3 more classes.


oh and who said i couldnt get though my g bio or g chem classes? I DID! the scienc epart is ok. the math gpa is the one that is getting to me.

ok, here is my schedule for spring 2003:
1. gchem part 2....just taking over the lecture part. i got an A in lab
2. genetics
3. physics part 2

summer 2003:
1. ochem part 1
2. o chem part 2 (will compelete in 2 months)
3. last month of summer either will take physics over again..part 1 or wait until fall 2003 or take at least 1 math class over again.

what u htink?

 

[chloe5]

Just when I thought that I was through with this thread...

Originally posted by silver_eyes

well i want to become a doctor cause i owe it to my family, esp my dad. he wnated to become a doctor ever sinc ehe was young. when he came to usa, shortly after his dad died. so, in our culture since he was the oldest out of 4, he had to support his brothers and mom. so he was working like 3 jobs and couldnt become a doctor cause of that.

It seems clear that your family is putting a lot of pressure on you to go pre-med. No wonder you have known, since the age of 5, that being a physician is your destiny. I once knew a girl who was going pre-med because she felt and said that she "owed it" to her dead grandma, since that's what grandma always wanted when she was alive. This girl suffered through orgo, physics and bio because she never really gave it her all (even though she claimed she did) due to the fact she wasn't really interested in the material and its meaning in the world. Anyway, that girl never made it into medical school after two MCATs and AMCAS application cycles. And after many years of deluding herself, she finally came to the realization that she was in fact deluding herself all that time and decided what was good for grandma wasn't her true calling.

I wish you luck in your chosen endeavor and hope that you don't waste too much of your time.

 

[Jumpu]

Originally posted by silver_eyes
clearly you havent read my previous. i did say that i will study more. And yes Jumpu, i do study. what the hell do u think i do all day? how do u think i got into uop? NOT without studying my butt off in high school. i had a 4.1 in high school. But college is hard. The only thing that is keeping my gpa barley a 2.0 is becasue of my math classes. other than that i am near or above a 3.0. pssh. u guys TOTALLY have the wrong impression of me. and Jumpu, if u dont have anything nice to say dont say it at all. isnt that what ur mommy taught u?🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄

Ok perhaps I have been harsh, but there is something very wrong with your thinking that instigates such remarks. Saying that "gosh I'm gonna do it no matter what" does not mean it will happen. Clearly your style of studying needs some tweaking, and that's fine. It takes time for some people (I'm one of them) to find the strategy that works and this is what people here are trying to tell you. Some might question your motivations, like the adcoms, who are aware of the fact that the children of doctors (ie children who pursue medicine because their parents want them to) have a higher attrition rate. Yes, your father is not a doctor as you've stated, but the motivations are the same, are they not?

BTW, you keep blaming the math as being your problem, but when it comes time to apply, the M in BCMP is math. We can sit here all day and argue why it's included, but the fact remains, its part of the application. Something to think about.

 

[silver_eyes]

Originally posted by chloe5
Just when I thought that I was through with this thread...





It seems clear that your family is putting a lot of pressure on you to go pre-med. No wonder you have known, since the age of 5, that being a physician is your destiny. I once knew a girl who was going pre-med because she felt and said that she "owed it" to her dead grandma, since that's what grandma always wanted when she was alive. This girl suffered through orgo, physics and bio because she never really gave it her all (even though she claimed she did) due to the fact she wasn't really interested in the material and its meaning in the world. Anyway, that girl never made it into medical school after two MCATs and AMCAS application cycles. And after many years of deluding herself, she finally came to the realization that she was in fact deluding herself all that time and decided what was good for grandma wasn't her true calling.

I wish you luck in your chosen endeavor and hope that you don't waste too much of your time.

Again, i have stated this in a previous thread on SDN a while back ill do it again. Im indian/pakistani/bangladeshi cultures one's child is "supposed" to be only of few things in life: engingeer, doctor, lawyer, and maybe pharmacist. That is what SOME familes pressure their children to become weather the child wants to or not.

however, my parents mentality is different than others. they as u can say a little bit more modernized and i am glad that they are. My dad took a big risk sending me to college away from home, letting me live a DORM (some guys arent even allowed to live in a dorm). My parents didnt force me or pressure me to become a doctor b/c it was my "destiny." I CHOOSE IT MYSELF. I choose to become a doctor, obviously my parents approve. They told me when i wa slike 12 or so, that we would LIKE u to become a doctor, but we are NOT saying u have to or else. When i told them that i DO want to become a doctor then they were ok. But reember this is what YOU want to do. you can change into somehting else if u want. I was thinking about going pre-law, for like a couple minutes....when i was in high school. but then i was like, naaaww.....

This was true in my case. SOME OTHER FAMILES DO PRESSURE THEIR CHILDREN IN BECOMMING DOCTORS, LAYWERS OR ENGINEERS.

 

[silver_eyes]

Originally posted by chloe5
Just when I thought that I was through with this thread...





It seems clear that your family is putting a lot of pressure on you to go pre-med. No wonder you have known, since the age of 5, that being a physician is your destiny. I once knew a girl who was going pre-med because she felt and said that she "owed it" to her dead grandma, since that's what grandma always wanted when she was alive. This girl suffered through orgo, physics and bio because she never really gave it her all (even though she claimed she did) due to the fact she wasn't really interested in the material and its meaning in the world. Anyway, that girl never made it into medical school after two MCATs and AMCAS application cycles. And after many years of deluding herself, she finally came to the realization that she was in fact deluding herself all that time and decided what was good for grandma wasn't her true calling.

I wish you luck in your chosen endeavor and hope that you don't waste too much of your time.

Again, i have stated this in a previous thread on SDN a while back ill do it again. Im indian/pakistani/bangladeshi cultures one's child is "supposed" to be only of few things in life: engingeer, doctor, lawyer, and maybe pharmacist. That is what SOME familes pressure their children to become weather the child wants to or not.

however, my parents mentality is different than others. they as u can say a little bit more modernized and i am glad that they are. My dad took a big risk sending me to college away from home, letting me live a DORM (some guys arent even allowed to live in a dorm). My parents didnt force me or pressure me to become a doctor b/c it was my "destiny." I CHOOSE IT MYSELF. I choose to become a doctor, obviously my parents approve. They told me when i wa slike 12 or so, that we would LIKE u to become a doctor, but we are NOT saying u have to or else. When i told them that i DO want to become a doctor then they were ok. But reember this is what YOU want to do. you can change into somehting else if u want. I was thinking about going pre-law, for like a couple minutes....when i was in high school. but then i was like, naaaww.....

This was true in my case. SOME OTHER FAMILES DO PRESSURE THEIR CHILDREN IN BECOMMING DOCTORS, LAYWERS OR ENGINEERS. i PERSONALLY KNOW SOME MYSELF, BUT THIS IS NOT MY FAMILY.

Beagle,
yea i wasnt htinking about taking orgo in uop anyways. lol. i took g chem...and it was like $4k and i commuted for 45 minutes. i am going to take it at MJC, hopefully.

and everyone else,
please stop with telling me that "i was pressured or forced into becoming a doctor and that this is what my parents want me to do and may not be what i want to do." That is definently NOT true. I DO want to do this...always.

In high school, my AP biology teacher told me, that "i have never seen so much determination in a person in becomming something. i know u will achieve ur dream of becomming a doctor."

 

[moo]

Don't take ochem at another school with the expectation that it will not appear on your record if you do poorly. When you apply to AMCAS you have to declare all post high school courses you took, whether it's at UoP or some other college.

 

[Mike59]

 

[relatively prime]

I think we should keep this up just to drive Mike crazy... 🙂

 

[groundhog]

Silver_eyes,
What you need is a new destiny. You should hope that the USA goes to war, the draft is reinstituted, you loose your student deferment for lack of academic progress, you get dafted, and you get assigned as a combat medic on the front lines. If you survive that experience then you might be ready to pursue an MD destiny.

 

[womansurg]

Originally posted by silver_eyes
In high school, my AP biology teacher told me, that "i have never seen so much determination in a person in becomming something. i know u will achieve ur dream of becomming a doctor."

"And here's your 'D'...."

No! Stop it! Bad doctor!

just teasin' ya, silver ieyes

 

[DW]

Originally posted by womansurg
"And here's your 'D'...."

No! Stop it! Bad doctor!

just teasin' ya, silver ieyes

.....and the SDN award for "cruel but funny post of the year" goes to......

 

[chloe5]

(I can't resist this procrastination opportunity...)

I think you should stop making people (particularly parents) of indian/pakistani/bangladeshi descent look so bad. Over time, I have had a lot of Indian-American friends whose parents have been very progressive, given the yardstick you provide. I think your family sounds rather conservative despite your claim of them being "modernized," whatever that means. Your dad took a "big risk sending you to college away from home?"

Perhaps you should spend a "couple" of more minutes thinking about your choices!


QUOTE]Originally posted by silver_eyes
Im indian/pakistani/bangladeshi cultures one's child is "supposed" to be only of few things in life: engingeer, doctor, lawyer, and maybe pharmacist. That is what SOME familes pressure their children to become weather the child wants to or not.

however, my parents mentality is different than others. they as u can say a little bit more modernized and i am glad that they are. My dad took a big risk sending me to college away from home, letting me live a DORM (some guys arent even allowed to live in a dorm). My parents didnt force me or pressure me to become a doctor b/c it was my "destiny." I CHOOSE IT MYSELF. I was thinking about going pre-law, for like a couple minutes....when i was in high school. but then i was like, naaaww.....

This was true in my case. SOME OTHER FAMILES DO PRESSURE THEIR CHILDREN IN BECOMMING DOCTORS, LAYWERS OR ENGINEERS. i PERSONALLY KNOW SOME MYSELF, BUT THIS IS NOT MY FAMILY.
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[Mik118]

WOW!!!!

 

[silver_eyes]

Originally posted by chloe5
(I can't resist this procrastination opportunity...)

I think you should stop making people (particularly parents) of indian/pakistani/bangladeshi descent look so bad. Over time, I have had a lot of Indian-American friends whose parents have been very progressive, given the yardstick you provide. I think your family sounds rather conservative despite your claim of them being "modernized," whatever that means. Your dad took a "big risk sending you to college away from home?"

Perhaps you should spend a "couple" of more minutes thinking about your choices!


QUOTE]Originally posted by silver_eyes
Im indian/pakistani/bangladeshi cultures one's child is "supposed" to be only of few things in life: engingeer, doctor, lawyer, and maybe pharmacist. That is what SOME familes pressure their children to become weather the child wants to or not.

however, my parents mentality is different than others. they as u can say a little bit more modernized and i am glad that they are. My dad took a big risk sending me to college away from home, letting me live a DORM (some guys arent even allowed to live in a dorm). My parents didnt force me or pressure me to become a doctor b/c it was my "destiny." I CHOOSE IT MYSELF. I was thinking about going pre-law, for like a couple minutes....when i was in high school. but then i was like, naaaww.....

This was true in my case. SOME OTHER FAMILES DO PRESSURE THEIR CHILDREN IN BECOMMING DOCTORS, LAYWERS OR ENGINEERS. i PERSONALLY KNOW SOME MYSELF, BUT THIS IS NOT MY FAMILY.

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ok by the risk, i meant that in our culture, since i am also muslim a young lady isnt supposed to leave home even for school. she can go to school, but near home. some families belive that some dont. my entire fam belives that EXCEPT my dad. he has conservative mind like u said. thsi is all bull crap and olden days stuff.

i am not trying to make indian/pakistanis look bad? why would i? i am pakistani myself. i am telling u guys that yes, some parents pressure their kids into doing something they dont want to do, but my parents didnt pressure me into becoming a doctor. i am trying to make it clear, b/c u guys keep on questioning me if, "this is what i really want and that i should sit back a think if i am doing it for my parents or myself."

and mike59, if u dont like this thread and it is drving u crazy, DONT READ IT OR POST ON IT. simple as that. hellllllllllllllllo!!!🙄 🙄

 

[Sparkles]

Originally posted by womansurg
"And here's your 'D'...."

No! Stop it! Bad doctor!

just teasin' ya, silver ieyes

OMG, that is fricken hillarious.

Well I've been reading this thread for quite a while, so I figure, what the heck, might as well post!!

Silver Eyes,

You say your GPA right now, as a sophomore is around a 2.0. You can work with this, BUT... It is going to take some STRATEGIC planning. Don't try to take a big ton of science classes together... I would start over, clean slate. RETAKE the classes you made D's and F's in. Start out slow and take an extra 1 or 2 years doing it. I understand that classes can be hard, but how can someone taking AP Biology in high school and a 4.1 (!!) do so poorly in college? Was there something else going on?

Also, do not, I REPEAT... DO NOT... try to take Organic all summer long. Maybe summer classes aren't so bad, but you couldn't even pass math, physics, and general chem, with a fast paced Organic class, you are just digging your grave a little deeper.

You need to turn over a new leaf and do it NOW if you still want a chance at med school. Start out slow and get those classes down pat. You're only going to get frustrated, discouraged, and bite more heads off if you overload your schedule.

SPARE US for God's sake!!!!!!😱




Ahem, sorry... Good luck!😀

 

[INeedAdvice]

wolferman,

I didn't mean for you to interpret my post as "going off on you". I know I used the same argument, because I copied and pasted it 😉 No, I don't get offended when posters misuse race (or misuse the term racism), but they do it so often, that it's a thing with me. OK, I'm anal retentive. I already admitted to that! Can you give a girl a break?

It's just that Silver Eyes said that her teachers were racist towards her. I was trying to point out that they are the same race as her (she's Middle Eastern, and therefore she is Caucasian...albeit probably dark-skinned).

Now, if she were African-American, then I'd agree that there could be a possibility that her "white" teachers were racist; but she's not, so I don't think she should throw around the term racist when it doesn't apply.

Her teachers may very well be biased or prejudice against her ethnicity or culture (although from her posts, I don't think that they are), but they're not racist and she shouldn't label them as such.

And I apologize if you thought that I was flaming you in that other thread. I wasn't. And if my posts to other people bother you, just ignore them! 😀

originally posted by INeedAdviceNot all "whites" (or "light-skinned people") are Caucasian and not all Caucasians are "white"...they can be "people of color" as well.

Of the 3 races (Asian, Black-African, Caucasian), skin color does not necessarily determine one's race.

There are light-skinned CAUCASIANS:
Europeans, Russians...

and

dark-skinned CAUCASIANS ("people of color"):
People from North Africa and the Middle East (Libyans, Morrocans, Egyptians, Palestinians, Syrians, etc...), people from Western Asia (Turkmenistan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc...) and people from India.

And there are light-skinned ASIANS:
northern Chinese, Koreans, Mongolians, North American native Indians/Eskimos/Aleutians...

and

dark-skinned ASIANS ("people of color"):
South East Asians (Vietnamese, Thailand, etc...), South American/Central American/Caribbean/Mexican indigenous native Indians, Polynesians (natives of Tahiti, Samoa, Hawaii, etc...).

With all that being said, I'm not "going off on" Silver Eyes either (I was just being nitpicky; that's all 😉 ). I support her effort in trying to pick herself up and retaking the classes in which she got a D or less and succeeding in getting accepted into med school. She sounds young, so if she can afford to stretch her undergrad into an extra couple of years, I think she could focus and do well.

 

[Mike59]

Originally posted by silver_eyes
and mike59, if u dont like this thread and it is drving u crazy, DONT READ IT OR POST ON IT

Hey, I didn't say I didn't like the thread. It's actually quite entertaining.

 

[DragonM]

I love this thread because everyone is yelling at someone who is obviously deaf. Silver _Eyes, I remember reading your posts last year and from what I observe, you're materialistic. I recall that you posted in the pre-dental forum as well, I think you even asked which profession made more. Afraid that the occupation you're going to end up with won't be able to afford that, what was that car that you braggged you drove again, you said " 2001 M5 BMW."

Face the facts, you don't want medicine. Someone said earlier that they knew someone who lied to herself that she liked medicine but ended up failing out. I don't think you even read the posts with the good advice on them, you're just looking for the ones that question your desire to become a physician so that you can respond to them and make you feel as though you really want medicine.

The more you have to argue against something, the more you are wrong. You get angry at people who are posting what you don't want to hear because it's true. And your posts are filled with bitterness and anger because what they are saying is what you know but won't admit.

 

[AznTrojan]

hmm.. anyone else think another thread like this will pop-up around summer time..

help.. i'm having a nervous breakdown.. my o-chem professor can't teach.. he's racist.. my school sucks.. i study hard.. no one understands me.. blah blah blah...

🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄

 

[Beagle]

Mike,
I like that picture!
He's cute

 

[moo]

This person has been posting since her senior year in HS. I remember her saying that she was getting like 900 on the SATs and how she was complaining that it was an unfair test because she just didn't know how to take standardized tests, etc. Two years later, nothing has changed and I doubt anything you say will change her either. Let her do what she wants and find out the hard way that she will fail. Frankly I'm sick and tired of this blame game with her professors and this crap about how people don't care about her and that everyone here who's tried to help are mean. Just let her take ochem over the summer and let her find out... she's pretty much set on doing it so just let it be.

 

[Jumpu]

ok this is really the last time I post on this thread....

I'd just like to announce on behalf of all the "brown" people on this site to all of SDN,

silver_eyes has been voted off the island!😛

To silver:

I have to say you make us look REALLY bad. It's so embarrassing! Please stop. Ok no more posts from me. I'm sure we've all had enough.

 

[Mike59]

Originally posted by Jumpu
silver_eyes has been voted off the island!😛
Please stop. Ok no more posts from me. I'm sure we've all had enough.

As I part from this thread, I will leave behind a petition for silver_eyes to be informally voted off the island

(If this post is to continue, please cut and paste the document below to all replies):

THE FOLLOWING SDNers VOW TO NEVER REPLY TO THIS THREAD EVER AGAIN. THE MEMBERS WHO HAVE SIGNED BELOW HEREBY ASK SILVER_EYES TO LEAVE THE ISLAND IN THE CANOE PROVIDED:

Jumpu
Mike59

 

[womansurg]

Originally posted by Mike59
As I part from this thread, I will leave behind a petition for silver_eyes to be informally voted off the island

(If this post is to continue, please cut and paste the document below to all replies):

Okay, I add my name to the list, only after careful consideration, and based on my heartfelt belief that silver_eyes truly DOES NOT WANT to be on the island, and continues to reside here under false pretenses. Furthermore, I believe that silver-eyes is ultimately best served by actively leaving the island at this point - under her own volition - as opposed to the inevitable and natural consequence of her forcible eviction based on her inability or unwillingness to meet the standards of performance currently expected of island dwellers.

THE FOLLOWING SDNers VOW TO NEVER REPLY TO THIS THREAD EVER AGAIN. THE MEMBERS WHO HAVE SIGNED BELOW HEREBY ASK SILVER_EYES TO LEAVE THE ISLAND IN THE CANOE PROVIDED:

Jumpu
Mike59
womansurg

 

[chloe5]

😀


Silver Eyes will eventually take the canoe because she is on her way to the Caribbean.

Originally posted by Mike59
As I part from this thread, I will leave behind a petition for silver_eyes to be informally voted off the island

(If this post is to continue, please cut and paste the document below to all replies):

THE FOLLOWING SDNers VOW TO NEVER REPLY TO THIS THREAD EVER AGAIN. THE MEMBERS WHO HAVE SIGNED BELOW HEREBY ASK SILVER_EYES TO LEAVE THE ISLAND IN THE CANOE PROVIDED:

Jumpu
Mike59

 

[chloe5]

Whoa womansurg!
Is that some freaky surgeon phrase?

Originally posted by womansurg
a chance to cut is a chance to cure.... [/B]

 

[womansurg]

Originally posted by chloe5
Whoa womansurg!
Is that some freaky surgeon phrase?

More like, words to live by 🙂 .

Also, never let skin stand between you and a diagnosis.

 

[doepug]

Silver eyes, you're not cut out to be pre-med. No more BS.

THE FOLLOWING SDNers VOW TO NEVER REPLY TO THIS THREAD EVER AGAIN. THE MEMBERS WHO HAVE SIGNED BELOW HEREBY ASK SILVER_EYES TO LEAVE THE ISLAND IN THE CANOE PROVIDED:

Jumpu
Mike59
womansurg
doepug