He Really is an Idiot

[Narcotized]

Great article detailing how much of a corrupt dope lives in the White House (see the 14 points):

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ob...-great-depression-2-2009-12-01?dist=bigcharts

If one more CNN/MSNBC media guy shoves their head up Obama's ass with this "He's so smart" stuff I think I'll lose it. Obama is working on being the most overrated intellectual in the history of man and does not know even the simplest of economic principles.

The media bends so far and so obvious to prop him up as this brilliant successful black leader. There are many many brilliant black men in this country. Obama clearly is NOT one of them. Enough already. He sucks as bad as the last guy.

What's this got to do with anesthesia? With an economy heading off a cliff with no quality leadership, your medical career, life, and soul will be severely impacted. Doctors are among the nation's brightest and should be among the easiest to see through this clown. If I can help others see what a fraud he is, then the message can be passed on and maybe, just maybe, the rath of Obamageddon can be eased somewhat.

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[GoodmanBrown]

Doesn't this article kinda put Obama in a Catch-22? I mean, all this is saying how he will lead us into the Great Depression 2, right? But, by letting the auto companies fail, banks fail, and Wall Street plummet, all without lifting a finger, the exact same thing happens, no? Are you a Green party member or Libertarian? I mean, other than Ralph Nader or Ron Paul, what leader would actually try to take on these interests? Neither mainstream candidate would.

What's this got to do with anesthesia? With an economy heading off a cliff with no quality leadership, your medical career, life, and soul will be severely impacted. Doctors are among the nation's brightest and should be among the easiest to see through this clown. If I can help others see what a fraud he is, then the message can be passed on and maybe, just maybe, the wrath of Obamageddon can be eased somewhat.

Geez. Sky is falling, much? Invest in property (land, not houses) and gold, and you'll be fine.

 

[coprolalia]

He's really not an idiot.

Quite the contrary.

He's actually quite intelligent and thoughtful, maybe one of the more intelligent presidents we've ever had (not unlike Jimmy Carter).

And, that's his primary problem.

Unlike our last president who was called "disengaged" even by some in his innermost circle, Obama is a "maximal interventionalist". You guys know the type. You see them in the hospital everyday. Like certain very bright physicians, they believe that the more they do to the patient the better the outcome will be. What they usually simply end up doing is introducing so many new variables that they either screw something else up, don't know what's working and what's not, and almost never improve the patients outcome who often tend to get better on their own anyway. What they clearly do, though, is end up spending a hell of a lot more money than their colleauges.

That's how I look at Obama. A nice, well-meaning, intelligent guy, not unlike a lot of docs I know, who's maybe a little bit more convinced of his own "vision" being the right one... and no real understanding of the cost, in every sense of that word, of his planned intervention.

-copro

 

[Narcotized]

He's really not an idiot.

He's actually quite intelligent and thoughtful

A nice, well-meaning, intelligent guy... and no real understanding of the cost, in every sense of that word, of his planned intervention.

-copro

Exactly; no real understanding. If you don't understand what you are doing, and he clearly doesn't, then where is the brilliance?? To quote Mrs. Gump, "Stupid is as stupid does." Just because the media repeats 100 times a day how brilliant Obama is, that doesn't make it true. Harvard, Shmarvard; we all know a lot of doctors that are brilliant, and we all know a lot of doctors that aren't all that impressive despite their fancy certificates. When Obama starts making moves that are wise and sensible then I might be open to this idea of intelligent. As for now, I've seen nothing to back the praise.

Well meaning? Is that slang for corrupt? Being paid off by Fannie/Freddie, appointing a tax cheat and helping all of his banking buddies in high places make off with millions and billions, securing his voting base with favors to unions and illegals that at the same time weaken the country. I agree he means well for himself; but again I don't see anything well meaning for America.

 

[Eta Carinae]

Exactly; no real understanding. If you don't understand what you are doing, and he clearly doesn't, then where is the brilliance?? To quote Mrs. Gump, "Stupid is as stupid does." Just because the media repeats 100 times a day how brilliant Obama is, that doesn't make it true. Harvard, Shmarvard; we all know a lot of doctors that are brilliant, and we all know a lot of doctors that aren't all that impressive despite their fancy certificates. When Obama starts making moves that are wise and sensible then I might be open to this idea of intelligent. As for now, I've seen nothing to back the praise.
Well meaning? Is that slang for corrupt? Being paid off by Fannie/Freddie, appointing a tax cheat and helping all of his banking buddies in high places make off with millions and billions, securing his voting base with favors to unions and illegals that at the same time weaken the country. I agree he means well for himself; but again I don't see anything well meaning for America.

Hello,
I agree with most of what you have to say. My frustration with the current administration is that, as evidenced by the deluge of monumental and prodigious policy proposals, their perspective is far too historical and out of touch with the plight of today's gargantuan economic catastrophy and the populace in this country.

I don't understand how, in the middle of the worst recession since the great depression, the administration is fighting for a healthcare bill, that although addresses a pressing issue, blithely overlooks the far more emergent issue; and a bill that may exacerbate the problems of the current healthcare system. That makes no sense to me.

I believe the current governance is with the aim of enacting landmark policies that mirror the FDR era etc. for the sake of the history books.

As far as welfare for Fred/Fannie etc. My argument, in line with Schweitzer in his book, Architects of Ruin, is that if these companies truly wish to subscribe to the principles of capitalism, then they should be allowed to reap both the benefits and the pitfalls of capitalism, including being allowed to fail when that outcome is inevitable based on poor management decisions. No socialist interventions. You want capitalism, you get capitalism.

As far as whether Obama is intelligent or not, he has proved three things so far:
1) He is intelligent
2) He is naive with respect to governing. His intelligence is not being put to good use here.
3) He is living in JKCS041 surrounded by eggheads who are out of touch with the situation on the ground; and some outrightly incompetent advisors ie Larry Summers

 

[Eta Carinae]

btw JKCS041 is the most distant galaxy cluster so far identified by NASA's chandra x-ray observatory.

JKCS041 is 10billion light years away!

we are surrounded by awesomeness, and we are insignificant!

 

[Eta Carinae]

whatever happened to black monday? oops wrong thread...

 

[tucker27705]

He's really not an idiot.

Unlike our last president who was called "disengaged" even by some in his innermost circle, Obama is a "maximal interventionalist". You guys know the type. You see them in the hospital everyday. Like certain very bright physicians, they believe that the more they do to the patient the better the outcome will be. What they usually simply end up doing is introducing so many new variables that they either screw something else up, don't know what's working and what's not, and almost never improve the patients outcome who often tend to get better on their own anyway. What they clearly do, though, is end up spending a hell of a lot more money than their colleauges.


-copro

I guess you are saying our country is a like a "Gomer" and that the best treatment is no treatment at all, a la the Fat Man?
Long live the Fat Man.

Tuck

 

[dhb]

I guess you are saying our country is a like a "Gomer" and that the best treatment is no treatment at all, a la the Fat Man?
Long live the Fat Man.

Tuck

Exactly they're buffing up the dollar and turfing it to China

 

[Narcotized]

We are a broke country that has dug deeply in debt blown on useless consumer junk and social programs that will not produce a return. The politicians cure is to dig even deeper in debt and blow even more money on useless consumer junk and social programs.

Let me translate this in doctor-speak. If Obama were a physician and a patient presented in critical condition from a sharp blow to the head with a baseball bat, Obama's approach would be to pick up the bat and smash the guys skull in with 20 more strikes to the head and then sit back and say, "that'll fix it."

 

[Eta Carinae]

We are a broke country that has dug deeply in debt blown on useless consumer junk and social programs that will not produce a return. The politicians cure is to dig even deeper in debt and blow even more money on useless consumer junk and social programs.

Let me translate this in doctor-speak. If Obama were a physician and a patient presented in critical condition from a sharp blow to the head with a baseball bat, Obama's approach would be to pick up the bat and smash the guys skull in with 20 more strikes to the head and then sit back and say, "that'll fix it."

I hate to say this, but the recession may have been just what the global economy ordered.

In his article, "Five things the U.S. can learn from China," in TIME, Powell, reports that U.S. savings rate fell to 0% in 2005 and has come up (although by a meager margin) to 4% this year. The crass consumerism and staggering personal debt:income ratios of the 2000's boom along with our culture of engorgement, greed, goods hoarding and insatiable consumption needed to be reined in.

Now we're learning what's important, returning to the things that catapulted America to the top of the world's stage and are slowly purging our penchant for conspicuous consumption :

1. Industry and production versus imbalanced trade (over-indulgent importation) and consumption
2. Ingenuity
3. Placing high priority on education
4. Realizing that there are no financial or economic guarantees if our populace is not competitive in the better educated global market among newly emerging economic forces ie china, india, or even the establishment such as Germany
5. Saving/Investment/Entrepreneurship
6. Abandoning the entitlement fallacy- unfortunately, may be the last one to go

 

[Narcotized]

Powell, reports that U.S. savings rate fell to 0% in 2005 and has come up (although by a meager margin) to 4% this year.

Unfortunately, his statistic is totally misleading. The savings by individuals is more than offset by the expanding government debt. As much as people like to think that government debt isn't there's, it is. Just smoke and mirrors and transferring debt around. Without all these bailouts and government gifts (which were never bailouts; just debt transfers and accounting tricks) people wouldn't have saved anything, so basically nothing has changed.

I'd like to think our consumerism has diminished, but the government is determined that it not. Every message is, "We have to get the consumer to spend again! Banks must lend!" Same ol Stuff. Obama keeps whacking the head injury patient with a baseball bat. Some cure there, oh gifted one.

 

[poresofkohn]

He's really not an idiot.

Quite the contrary.

He's actually quite intelligent and thoughtful, maybe one of the more intelligent presidents we've ever had (not unlike Jimmy Carter).

And, that's his primary problem.

Unlike our last president who was called "disengaged" even by some in his innermost circle, Obama is a "maximal interventionalist". You guys know the type. You see them in the hospital everyday. Like certain very bright physicians, they believe that the more they do to the patient the better the outcome will be. What they usually simply end up doing is introducing so many new variables that they either screw something else up, don't know what's working and what's not, and almost never improve the patients outcome who often tend to get better on their own anyway. What they clearly do, though, is end up spending a hell of a lot more money than their colleauges.

That's how I look at Obama. A nice, well-meaning, intelligent guy, not unlike a lot of docs I know, who's maybe a little bit more convinced of his own "vision" being the right one... and no real understanding of the cost, in every sense of that word, of his planned intervention.

-copro

>
How would you even know? You were like what, 3 years old when he left office?

 

[cfdavid]

>
How would you even know? You were like what, 3 years old when he left office?

Ah, it's called being a student of history..... That's like asking "how would you know Caligula was a decadent fool? It happened 2000 years before you were born!"

Surely, one's opinion of Jimmy Carter's intellect is subject to debate, but at least debate it without the snide remarks.

 

[coprolalia]

Ah, it's called being a student of history..... That's like asking "how would you know Caligula was a decadent fool? It happened 2000 years before you were born!"

Surely, one's opinion of Jimmy Carter's intellect is subject to debate, but at least debate it without the snide remarks.

PoK shows up periodically acting like a complete douchebag, insulting the people on this forum he perceives (rightfully so) to have the best most water-tight opinions and bigger personalities without really adding anything to the forum himself, and then he disappears again for a while.

I suspect he's nothing more than a trolling sock-puppet. Best simply ignored.

-copro

 

[Planktonmd]

PoK shows up periodically acting like a complete douchebag, insulting the people on this forum he perceives (rightfully so) to have the best most water-tight opinions and bigger personalities without really adding anything to the forum himself, and then he disappears again for a while.

I suspect he's nothing more than a trolling sock-puppet. Best simply ignored.

-copro

So if he only insults people who have personalities and meaningful opinions why are you concerned?
You certainly don't have anything to worry about!

 

[coprolalia]

So if he only insults people who have personalities and meaningful opinions why are you concerned?
You certainly don't have anything to worry about!

Ipso facto.

-copro

 

[Narcotized]

"WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Barack Obama outlined major new government stimulus and jobs proposals on Tuesday, saying the nation must continue to "spend our way out of this recession.">>>>>

When he speaks, the nation gets more broke. I'll make a deal; if he can go a day without making a *****ic statement about the economy, I'll stop calling him dumb.

 

[coprolalia]

When the idiot speaks, the nation gets more broke. I'll make a deal; if he can go a day without making a *****ic statement about the economy, I'll stop calling him an idiot.

Watch the markets today... see where they close...

-copro

 

[poresofkohn]

PoK shows up periodically acting like a complete douchebag, insulting the people on this forum he perceives (rightfully so) to have the best most water-tight opinions and bigger personalities without really adding anything to the forum himself, and then he disappears again for a while.

I suspect he's nothing more than a trolling sock-puppet. Best simply ignored.

-copro

>
HA! As far as I can remember, other than a snarky comment here or there, you are the only poster I've directly insulted. Aren't you the one who posted that you should'nt be taken to seriously here? Apparently what some consider "the best most water-tight opinions and bigger personalities", others find to be "inflated self worth and stating opinion as fact". I will admit the frequency of my posts/visits to this forum, are less than they used to be, I have the blocking software at work to blame for that.

 

[coprolalia]

>
HA! As far as I can remember, other than a snarky comment here or there, you are the only poster I've directly insulted. Aren't you the one who posted that you should'nt be taken to seriously here? Apparently what some consider "the best most water-tight opinions and bigger personalities", others find to be "inflated self worth and stating opinion as fact". I will admit the frequency of my posts/visits to this forum, are less than they used to be, I have the blocking software at work to blame for that.

What the f*ck you say? If your posts contain more than one sentence, I don't read past that point.

-copro

 

[Planktonmd]

What the f*ck you say? If your posts contain more than one sentence, I don't read past that point.

-copro

I think he said that you were the only one he wanted to insult.

 

[coprolalia]

I think he said that you were the only one he wanted to insult.

Thanks, Dick. I (and also speaking for everyone else on this forum) neither want nor need your help or interpretation on anything, anesthesia-related or otherwise.

-copro

 

[Planktonmd]

Thanks, Dick. I (and also speaking for everyone else on this forum) neither want nor need your help or interpretation on anything, anesthesia-related or otherwise.

-copro

So, now you speak for everyone on the forum?
I actually have been looking for a proper name for you and I think I found one , how about Nancy?
It is feminine enough and it suits your whiny little personality.
Ok, Nancy it is.

 

[coprolalia]

So, now you speak for everyone on the forum?
I actually have been looking for a proper name for you and I think I found one , how about Nancy?
It is feminine enough and it suits your whiny little personality.
Ok, Nancy it is.

You know what humors me the most? I make no pretenses about who I am, either on this forum or in real life. I'm loud-mouthed. Occasionally antagonistic. Womanizing. Gun-toting. I call things like I see them. I'm not afraid to tell someone they're full of ****, either on this forum or to their face. I'd love for you to be able to meet me in real life one day so I could prove that to you. But, I'm not going to publicly divulge my identity here anymore than you are. There are a few posters who know who I am anyway, and can vouch that what I say is 100% true. Unlike you.

What also humors me immensely is just how wrong you are - on so many different fronts - about what you think you know. This goes to the occasionally stupid clinical post you make that either (1) completely states what is already obvious to most of us, (2) attempts some pseudo-intellectual Socratic method that has no effect on an Internet forum other than to make you look like a complete tool, or (3) just a flat out misconception of basic medical science.

And, if anything else, I've been able to systematically make a mockery of you - and repeatedly get just about the response I have expected - while continuously toying with your self-possessed notion and false belief that you are somehow just a little bit superior, smarter, and more knowledgeable than the average poster on this forum. That you are somehow here to "teach us all something", at least that was consistently your M.O. since you started posting here. Feh.

Your responses have uncovered you for the complete tool that you are... and many other posters have begun noticing it. Congratulations! Congratulations for stooping to my level. I sit comfortably in my chair, fresh outta residency making $270k/yr, and laugh as I pull your strings... like a little marionette and like any of this really matters in the long run. What humors me - above everything else - is that I am completely inside your sanctimonious head. That you actually take anything said here seriously. And, that I find immensely entertaining.

How do you feel about yourself now? (And, yes, that's a rhetorical question, numbnuts.)

Wait...

I am done with this BS, and I don't have any clinical contribution to a pseudo clinical thread that is composed of random google search results.
I am actually done with this whole stupid forum and I do regret every minute I wasted on it.
Good Bye.

You keep calling me a whiny little Nancy? Excellent. Knock yourself out. I don't f*cking care what you (or anyone else on this forum) thinks about me. Unlike yourself, I am exactly 0% emotionally invested in any of this. I come here for fun. And, part of that fun is antagonizing you. I'm having a great time.

However, I ask everyone else to read that above quote and determine for themselves who's being a whiny little ***** is in all of this. I think everyone, except apparently you, knows the answer to that.

You think I want you to leave this forum again? HELL NO! The real victory is that you keep coming back here, making yourself look stupid, and showing your true colors.

Please, PLEASE, PLEASE don't let me stop you!

-copro

 

[badasshairday]

dude, whats up with this plank and copro rivalry? you guys need to call a truce.

 

[Planktonmd]

Well Nancy,
That was really good!
I knew I was affecting you deeply but I did not realize that you felt that you needed to vent so bad.
Good for you buddy.
If it makes you feel better I am even willing to accept that you might be in theory a man.
You have always had issues since you were a little resident and you have always wanted to become mini military MD but it is difficult for you to do that when some one like me keeps abusing you and calling you nancy, I understand.
Hang in there.

 

[militarymd]

You know what humors me the most? I make no pretenses about who I am, either on this forum or in real life. I'm loud-mouthed. Occasionally antagonistic. Womanizing. Gun-toting. I call things like I see them. I'm not afraid to tell someone they're full of ****, either on this forum or to their face. I'd love for you to be able to meet me in real life one day so I could prove that to you. But, I'm not going to publicly divulge my identity here anymore than you are. There are a few posters who know who I am anyway, and can vouch that what I say is 100% true. Unlike you.

What also humors me immensely is just how wrong you are - on so many different fronts - about what you think you know. This goes to the occasionally stupid clinical post you make that either (1) completely states what is already obvious to most of us, (2) attempts some pseudo-intellectual Socratic method that has no effect on an Internet forum other than to make you look like a complete tool, or (3) just a flat out misconception of basic medical science.

And, if anything else, I've been able to systematically make a mockery of you - and repeatedly get just about the response I have expected - while continuously toying with your self-possessed notion and false belief that you are somehow just a little bit superior, smarter, and more knowledgeable than the average poster on this forum. That you are somehow here to "teach us all something", at least that was consistently your M.O. since you started posting here. Feh.

Your responses have uncovered you for the complete tool that you are... and many other posters have begun noticing it. Congratulations! Congratulations for stooping to my level. I sit comfortably in my chair, fresh outta residency making $270k/yr, and laugh as I pull your strings... like a little marionette and like any of this really matters in the long run. What humors me - above everything else - is that I am completely inside your sanctimonious head. That you actually take anything said here seriously. And, that I find immensely entertaining.

How do you feel about yourself now? (And, yes, that's a rhetorical question, numbnuts.)

Wait...



You keep calling me a whiny little Nancy? Excellent. Knock yourself out. I don't f*cking care what you (or anyone else on this forum) thinks about me. Unlike yourself, I am exactly 0% emotionally invested in any of this. I come here for fun. And, part of that fun is antagonizing you. I'm having a great time.

However, I ask everyone else to read that above quote and determine for themselves who's being a whiny little ***** is in all of this. I think everyone, except apparently you, knows the answer to that.

You think I want you to leave this forum again? HELL NO! The real victory is that you keep coming back here, making yourself look stupid, and showing your true colors.

Please, PLEASE, PLEASE don't let me stop you!

-copro

plank

cop

 

[cfdavid]

I agree with Badasshairday (just writing that makes me laugh).

This tit for tat thing needs to settle down. Come on guys.

Also, plankton, don't stop posting clinical stuff. While a lof of us med students (and even PGY1's) can't yet contribute too much to the clinical anesthesiology stuff yet, it's not as if we don't read em.

 

[Narcotized]

dude, whats up with this plank and copro rivalry? you guys need to call a truce.

I think they thought the title of this thread was written by one of them referring to the other.

 

[Planktonmd]

So, miltarymd is coming to show support for mini military md (AKA Nancy).
You should always take care of your boy

plank

cop

 

[Consigliere]

Coprolalia = 1; Plankton = 0

 

[Narcotized]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Senat...html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=main&asset=&ccode=


"We are in a very special kind of economic situation, and frankly, jobs have to be the top priority, and every bill is going to be a jobs bill going forward," Obama's top economic adviser, Larry Summers, said on ABC's "This Week."

If you guys are bored by this, I promise one day you won't be. Consider every paper money currency has lead to collapse because of the license to print money for whatever debt the government takes on. Consider our constitution didn't even allow paper money (gold and silver only) because they already knew the dangers of worthless paper money from the war experience. Consider printing money to cover debt has ALWAYS lead to disaster.

Consider that "stimulus" programs are nothing more than glorified welfare, just basically handing out increasingly worthless currency, and that money is just borrowed burying us in even more debt. Consider welfare and entitlements are only a benefit of wealth (we're broke), and can't ever create or reclaim wealth (as the "genius" wants you to believe), but can only destroy wealth.

Yup, these are the megalomaniac very intellectually limited politicians that run your country. If you truly understood our debt death spiral you'd be concerned and depressed.

 

[YouISee]

So what if Obama sounds intelligent. He's a POS because he attacked the previous regime on many planks and now his POS party is doing the same thing or acting on the other end of the spectrum.

We need to get out of Iraq. Now we need an Afghan surge. What a stupid idea even if it somewhat works. That part of the world has never been controlled by outside folks since like ever. Those people don't want American culture. They like their own. Period.

We need to get those fat cats on Wall Street. So let's bail em out. Then they pay back their TARP and can ram out bonuses. Sweet stupid! You and Pelosi thought ahead. Yes, Bush did begin the process, but wasn't it up to you to fix errors he made?

Change from what? A redneck to a career politician who has done nothing in government to get where he is. Going to Harvard Law School doesn't make you uber-special. Really no real background (barely worked in the Illinois Senate before running for US Senate where he barely did anything). His record for public work is practically non-existent compared to other vets, and now he gets a Nobel Prize!

Pls hound your senators especially if they are Republicans to veto that healthcare bill. If ain't serving two groups primarily: doctors and patients, then screw them including lazy nurses, hospital admins, insurance agents, etc.

 

[Narcotized]

We need to get those fat cats on Wall Street. So let's bail em out. Then they pay back their TARP and can ram out bonuses. Sweet stupid! You and Pelosi thought ahead. Yes, Bush did begin the process, but wasn't it up to you to fix errors he made?

The differences between Bush and Obama and Republicans and Democrats is basically nonexistent. Bury us in debt and rig the system in favor of bankers and other friends in high places. Hey suckers, there's your "Change we can believe in!"

Then you have the Messiah and his media bragging how he prevented a depression. Gotta love the gullible. He put a few bandaides on the current debt with more future debt, putting off today's large problem for an even more massive one tomorrow. Anybody ever hear of a ponzi? That's how they work, and none can ever possibly succeed. And he gets his band of suckers to continually believe that we just need an even bigger debt/spending bill ("stimulus") to really solve it.

There's a bigass cliff we are accelerating towards:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/34419063

Thankfully, we have a megalomaniac genius in the White House to save us all.