HELP-Still no interviews!!!!

[mcatslave]

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OK, I have been complete for about two weeks. I am one of the few people that turned in late secondary apps. Is there anyone else out there? Do I still have hope?

 

[Dr_Dan_the_man]

you expect interviews after being complete for 2 weeks???

You know you're late, so dont expect any invites until at least January

 

[aaj117]

no one has even read your app yet-- of course you don't have any interviews...calm down and wait, we all had to, some people just did it earlier.

 

[DoctorDreamer]

I was complete for about 1 1/2 months before I started hearing, and I'm still getting interview offers.

 

[dd128]

OMG!!! I just turned in my apps yesterday, why on earth don't I have any acceptances yet??? , j/k....you're going to have to learn the patience that none of us ever do

 

[mcatslave]

lol.... DD128, i COULDN'T HELP BUT FEEL LEFT OUT ...everyone i know already has some kind of interview. I guess I'ld have to wait and see what happens... I just want everything to be over.....

 

[dd128]

I'm just messing around, I know it gets kind of hard not to get caught up in all the pre-med hype...especailly on sdn. You start to cruise around here for a while and soon you believe your application is no better than big lump of crap. There are still months of interviews left, so there is plenty of time, but yeah I want it all to be over too! 😉

 

[Inuranic]

I was complete in early/mid July at some schools, and still had to wait about a month for my first interview invite (and even longer for others).

Two weeks and we're in December? I second the notion of a possible January invite, maybe February.

Good luck!

 

[batman1983]

****, Ive been waiting for 2 and 1/4 months.

 

[RPedigo]

I've been complete at some places for over four months now... it's a long process, you'll have to be patient. I wish you the best of luck though

 

[Phoenix.]

I've been complete at some places for over four months now... it's a long process, you'll have to be patient. I wish you the best of luck though

Over 4 months for me too. But do you still anticipate possible invites from those schools? I know that theoretically it's possible, but I wonder how probable if we've been complete for over 4 months.

 

[Jolie South]

Over 4 months for me too. But do you still anticipate possible invites from those schools? I know that theoretically it's possible, but I wonder how probable if we've been complete for over 4 months.

yea, i'm kissing any dreams of yale or northwestern goodbye.

 

[Phoenix.]

yea, i'm kissing any dreams of yale or northwestern goodbye.

I'm irrationally waiting for the end of December first....

 

[batman1983]

Its weird, I got my first and only interview invite 2 weeks after submitting my secondaries in late Sept/early Oct. Since then, I have not heard anything back from my other schools, except for rejections.

From my experiences of applying last year, depending on what time you applied in the cycle(if you applied early, there isnt much waittime for interviews), will influence your time of interview notice. Last cyle, I submitted my secondaries in late Dec/early Jan, and did not get interview invites till late Feb for mid March and April.

Based upon email notifications Ive been getting from schools and other ppls' posts on SDN, this year's cycle appears to have a higher number of applications and schools are behind on reviewing apps. Thus, I would expect a wait of at least 2 months to hear from the majority of the schools where you have a chance. I would say that if you have to wait 4 months to hear from a school, then you are probably not getting an interview.

 

[Textuality]

It might depend on the school. For those that are not rolling, who knows what order they review files in. Stanford for one lets you know that they don't necessarily review files in order of completion date.

 

[mcatslave]

From my experiences of applying last year, depending on what time you applied in the cycle(if you applied early, there isnt much waittime for interviews), will influence your time of interview notice. Last cyle, I submitted my secondaries in late Dec/early Jan, and did not get interview invites till late Feb for mid March and April.


I looked at ur stats, I thought it was really good. did u really not get into any school with ur MCAT score.... I think I have no hope then

 

[batman1983]

From my experiences of applying last year, depending on what time you applied in the cycle(if you applied early, there isnt much waittime for interviews), will influence your time of interview notice. Last cyle, I submitted my secondaries in late Dec/early Jan, and did not get interview invites till late Feb for mid March and April.


I looked at ur stats, I thought it was really good. did u really not get into any school with ur MCAT score.... I think I have no hope then

I didnt get in, I was waitlisted at all the schools I interviewed at. Yet, I wouldnt compare your stats with mine. Everybody’s app is different(state residency makes a big difference). While my stats are decent, there were probably certain weaknesses I had on my app that hurt me, such as a lack of research(I never did because of a lack of interest in the research available at my school, as well as my busy work schedule) and probably weak LORs(I never networked with my science profs).

Certain schools do have different policies in regards to reviewing apps. I was informed by UC Davis and SUNY Buffalo that they hold off on reviewing apps till later in the cycle. When I interviewed at Davis and Buffalo in March/April, they said that 50-75% of their seats were still open. At Buffalo, there was also lots of movement off their waitlists. As for Drexel, I interviewed for a waitlist spot(I was pissed, since they never informed me before the interview that I was interviewing for a waitlist spot).

 

[RPedigo]

Over 4 months for me too. But do you still anticipate possible invites from those schools? I know that theoretically it's possible, but I wonder how probable if we've been complete for over 4 months.

I'm sure it's still quite possible, because our application just goes in the stack to be reviewed when the next admissions committee meeting is. Most schools interview through March; we have quite a long ways. I think they just look at all the applicants, interview the ones that they think fit with the school best first, and then the other applicants just sit around and wait until their number gets called (or they get rejected).

I think we still have a good shot at an interview, but maybe I'm being irrationally optimistic. We'll see how the cycle pans out though... it's a weird process, and stranger things have happened.

 

[Textuality]

As for Drexel, I interviewed for a waitlist spot(I was pissed, since they never informed me before the interview that I was interviewing for a waitlist spot).

They actually told you at the interview you were interviewing for a waitlist spot? Yeah...I think I'd be pissed too. I'm interviewing there in january, which is probably too early to be interviewing for a waitlist spot (I think), but if that's what it turns out to be, I'm going to be miffed as well...

 

[Dr Jordanian]

OK, I have been complete for about two weeks. I am one of the few people that turned in late secondary apps. Is there anyone else out there? Do I still have hope?

man....join the club!
i submitted my secondaries really late too (basically by the deadlines for more than half of the schools!) ...applied to 38 schools!
i had two degrees in dentistry.....a foreign BDS and an american DDS that i just finished this last week.....have a great class rank and a pretty good GPA (3.90, 3.81) and i still didn`t get a single interview....makes me wonder what the hell do those admissions committees look at in their stupid evaluation process!
this is my third degree and third application to such professional schools and u know what....it never gets any better .....it is still just as depressing and frustrating as the first time!

good luck to all ...

 

[RPedigo]

man....join the club!
i submitted my secondaries really late too (basically by the deadlines for more than half of the schools!) ...applied to 38 schools!
i had two degrees in dentistry.....a foreign BDS and an american DDS that i just finished this last week.....have a great class rank and a pretty good GPA (3.90, 3.81) and i still didn`t get a single interview....makes me wonder what the hell do those admissions committees look at in their stupid evaluation process!
this is my third degree and third application to such professional schools and u know what....it never gets any better .....it is still just as depressing and frustrating as the first time!

good luck to all ...

Random and off-topic, but what do you plan on doing with a DDS/MD/PhD? I'm interested because I've never heard someone attempting that road before. Good luck on this cycle

 

[batman1983]

They actually told you at the interview you were interviewing for a waitlist spot? Yeah...I think I'd be pissed too. I'm interviewing there in january, which is probably too early to be interviewing for a waitlist spot (I think), but if that's what it turns out to be, I'm going to be miffed as well...

I was pretty pissed with Drexel because I specifically asked them that after getting the interview invite about this and they told me no. Then, when I get there, they tell me the class and waitlist was full, and hence I was interviewing for a waitlist spot. If I had know that, I wouldnt have spent the money to go there.

While the students are Drexel were really cool, I wasnt impressed with the school(esp relative to its costs). Along with the admins directly lying to me, I was left with a bad impression of the school, and hence the reason Im not applying there this year.

 

[Dr Jordanian]

Random and off-topic, but what do you plan on doing with a DDS/MD/PhD? I'm interested because I've never heard someone attempting that road before. Good luck on this cycle

hey!
well, about random: this whole place is about random!
A PhD would augment your MD in getting into the high end surgical specialties. The rest, I was hoping to get into something like plastic surgery and continue to do dentistry (a high end cosmotic dentistry would definitely do it for me)...i have seen oral & maxillo facial surgeons that got into a combined MD/OMS programs after dental school and ended up getting certified in OMS complex plastic surgery as well...
I have also met a guy in chicago who did an MD/DDS and followed that with OMS and then ENT , and he seemed very satisfied with his path.

I might add, looking for a sense of accomplishment! and you might right about that for a start!
I guess you would see more crazy people around once u near ur last years in ur MD.

good luck

 

[BoilerWolverine]

My ap was complete at the end of August and I just got an interview invite today... so that would be... 3 1/2 months? Be patient (yea right).

 

[Blade28]

i had two degrees in dentistry.....a foreign BDS and an american DDS that i just finished this last week.....have a great class rank and a pretty good GPA (3.90, 3.81) and i still didn`t get a single interview....makes me wonder what the hell do those admissions committees look at in their stupid evaluation process!

Unfortunately there are so many applicants that often, more than just GPA/MCAT goes into the crazy admissions process.

A PhD would augment your MD in getting into the high end surgical specialties. The rest, I was hoping to get into something like plastic surgery and continue to do dentistry (a high end cosmotic dentistry would definitely do it for me)

Again, unfortunately, this isn't usually true. See this thread for a good discussion.

 

[Phoenix.]

hey!
well, about random: this whole place is about random!
A PhD would augment your MD in getting into the high end surgical specialties. The rest, I was hoping to get into something like plastic surgery and continue to do dentistry (a high end cosmotic dentistry would definitely do it for me)...i have seen oral & maxillo facial surgeons that got into a combined MD/OMS programs after dental school and ended up getting certified in OMS complex plastic surgery as well...
I have also met a guy in chicago who did an MD/DDS and followed that with OMS and then ENT , and he seemed very satisfied with his path.

I might add, looking for a sense of accomplishment! and you might right about that for a start!
I guess you would see more crazy people around once u near ur last years in ur MD.

good luck

Mayo holds two spots for dentists to enter their medical school. Check their link out describing the program:

http://www.mayo.edu/mms/md-oms.html

 

[batman1983]

Just got an interview invite a hour ago from Boston Uni, and I sent in my sec to them in Sept. So I think you should realistically expect to wait 2-3 months to hear back from schools.

 

[mcatslave]

Just got an interview invite a hour ago from Boston Uni, and I sent in my sec to them in Sept. So I think you should realistically expect to wait 2-3 months to hear back from schools.

congrats on ur interview invite. gluck with everything

 

[LavenderDoll88]

I am so close to tears. I have no interviews as of yet either....

I was complete in the middle of October. My secondaries were all sent in early September but my LOR went out in October (I don't regret this, because everything had a reason for going the way it did.) I have a 4.0 GPA and a 32R MCAT and a strong committee LOR and good EC's I think.

I'm beginning to see status check pages in my dreams. I'm obsessive.

If getting in was purely a measure of just how badly we want it, we'd all be in already... 😉

 

[thoffen]

A PhD would augment your MD in getting into the high end surgical specialties.

Wait!? You are gunning for a PhD just to increase your chances of getting into plastics?

 

[MDpride]

I am so close to tears. I have no interviews as of yet either....

I was complete in the middle of October. My secondaries were all sent in early September but my LOR went out in October (I don't regret this, because everything had a reason for going the way it did.) I have a 4.0 GPA and a 32R MCAT and a strong committee LOR and good EC's I think.

I'm beginning to see status check pages in my dreams. I'm obsessive.

If getting in was purely a measure of just how badly we want it, we'd all be in already... 😉

It's sad and hurts to see that people with gpa and mcat less than ours get interview eventhough they have submitted apps long after we have submitted.
I get mad when people talk about late application. I know people who have submitted AMCAS as well as secondary after mid-sept and have got interviews even with not good gpa and mcat.
They had goood ECs.
Does that mean studying for MCAT is useless if ECs are going to cover for bad gpa and mcat?

 

[rgarrig]

I am so close to tears. I have no interviews as of yet either....

RELAX!!!

When I was on the trail, interviews were being dished out in the Spring. Some schools take their time, so unless you've been flat-out rejected, there's no reason to panic. Now, if it's the end of March and you haven't had any interview invites, then you can freak out all you want. 😉

Best of luck!

 

[Dr Jordanian]

Unfortunately there are so many applicants that often, more than just GPA/MCAT goes into the crazy admissions process.

hi blade!
actually, yes ! i am getting a taste of this pain in the B*** process right now!😀
althought, its not the first time for me to be in a nearly similar situation so I know the drill!


Again, unfortunately, this isn't usually true. See this thread for a good discussion.

I do realize that too. In fact, I contacted as many program directors as I could before trying to add the PhD option into this process. various directors told me that even though having an additional PhD in a related field MIGHT help (at least some of them) its probably not worth doing just for improving an application. Of course, I don`t need a reason bigger than that to go for it. I have seen OMS applicants in dental school doing a lot of research on TMJ disorders throw Neuroscience just to improve their chances of getting into the OMS after dental school. Don`t for get that OMS in dental is probably one of the most competetive specialties, if not the most! I have also noted ur CT surgery posts and seen that u almost always included at least a couple of years of research to improve an application strength wouldn`t that be pretty much very related to a PhD.
thanks for the link u provided and good luck with ur CT aspirations, I really have a lot of respect to that.

 

[Blade28]

I have also noted ur CT surgery posts and seen that u almost always included at least a couple of years of research to improve an application strength wouldn`t that be pretty much very related to a PhD.

Very different situations:

(1) MD/PhD student applying to Plastics/other competitive residency

versus

(2) General Surgery resident with research years applying to competitive fellowship

So very different. If you're talking opportunities to do research, publish papers, submit abstracts/posters, present at meetings, and network and meet people, then yes, that's helpful. But a PhD, unfortunately, in and of itself, is not usually much of a factor in applying for competitive residencies/fellowships.

 

[Dr Jordanian]

Mayo holds two spots for dentists to enter their medical school. Check their link out describing the program:

http://www.mayo.edu/mms/md-oms.html

hi phoenix,
thank for the link. actually iam aware of those combined programs and I even did some extensive rotations in OMS and reached to a conclusion that it was not for me!😀 beside the fact that most OMS programs are competetive enough so that many OMS applicants decide to do an additional general practice residency in dentistry after their DDS. its usually in the form of AEGD (advanced education in general dentistry) or GPR ( general practice residency- which is more surgery based) in order to improve their chances of getting into OMS. It is also amazing that most of the combined MD/OMS programs will award you a weird MD that you would need to go for one transitional year (in most programs) before u r considered fully an MD!!!
iam also afraid that an MD that was awarded in such a weird fashion will not put me at the top of the pile of applications of regular MD.s applying to more competetive residency programs!
sorry for replying in this post with a different subject!

best wishes

 

[Phoenix.]

hi phoenix,
thank for the link. actually iam aware of those combined programs and I even did some extensive rotations in OMS and reached to a conclusion that it was not for me!😀 beside the fact that most OMS programs are competetive enough so that many OMS applicants decide to do an additional general practice residency in dentistry after their DDS. its usually in the form of AEGD (advanced education in general dentistry) or GPR ( general practice residency- which is more surgery based) in order to improve their chances of getting into OMS. It is also amazing that most of the combined MD/OMS programs will award you a weird MD that you would need to go for one transitional year (in most programs) before u r considered fully an MD!!!
iam also afraid that an MD that was awarded in such a weird fashion will not put me at the top of the pile of applications of regular MD.s applying to more competetive residency programs!
sorry for replying in this post with a different subject!

best wishes

Ooops, sorry! I meant that link for RPedigo's benefit. I figured you probably knew about it already. Good luck!

 

[Vihsadas]

hi phoenix,
thank for the link. actually iam aware of those combined programs and I even did some extensive rotations in OMS and reached to a conclusion that it was not for me!😀 beside the fact that most OMS programs are competetive enough so that many OMS applicants decide to do an additional general practice residency in dentistry after their DDS. its usually in the form of AEGD (advanced education in general dentistry) or GPR ( general practice residency- which is more surgery based) in order to improve their chances of getting into OMS. It is also amazing that most of the combined MD/OMS programs will award you a weird MD that you would need to go for one transitional year (in most programs) before u r considered fully an MD!!!
iam also afraid that an MD that was awarded in such a weird fashion will not put me at the top of the pile of applications of regular MD.s applying to more competetive residency programs!
sorry for replying in this post with a different subject!

best wishes

Well but wouldn't the counter argument be that most DDS programs nowadays have a very similar basic sciences curriculum to the MD programs? I mean, wouldn't it be more like just doing 1-2 years of rotations and perhaps a few physicianship classes to equate? I dunno, I think I would consider a Dentist who got a 1 year MD equivalent to a 'normal' MD.

 

[batman1983]

congrats on ur interview invite. gluck with everything

Yeh, thanks, Im pretty excited since BU was one of my top choices.

I am so close to tears. I have no interviews as of yet either....

I was complete in the middle of October. My secondaries were all sent in early September but my LOR went out in October (I don't regret this, because everything had a reason for going the way it did.) I have a 4.0 GPA and a 32R MCAT and a strong committee LOR and good EC's I think.

I'm beginning to see status check pages in my dreams. I'm obsessive.

If getting in was purely a measure of just how badly we want it, we'd all be in already... 😉

I know what you are going through, especially since I had to go through the same thing last year, and I applied even later in Dec/Jan. While applying in Oct isnt the same as applying in Dec/Jan, I was still able to a couple interviews last year. So, trust me, as long as you applied to a wide variety of schools(look at my last year profile), you should get a couple interviews(esp since your stats are comparable to mine). If you finished in mid-Oct, I think you will start hearing back soon(within next 2-3 weeks).

 

[batman1983]

It's sad and hurts to see that people with gpa and mcat less than ours get interview eventhough they have submitted apps long after we have submitted.
I get mad when people talk about late application. I know people who have submitted AMCAS as well as secondary after mid-sept and have got interviews even with not good gpa and mcat.
They had goood ECs.
Does that mean studying for MCAT is useless if ECs are going to cover for bad gpa and mcat?

I wouldnt say that studying for the MCAT is useless, but I have noticed that lots of ppl with avg(30-32 MCATs) and decent GPAs(3.5-3.7) getting into top tier (ivies,UCs) medical schools because of their ECs. From my experience, alot of those top schools will put a lot of emphasis on research, and highly value ppl that have done it(even though, most likely all they did wsa BS/mundane tasks such as titrations, cleaning dishes, or killing/jacking off rats or rabbits (not kidding, a buddy of mine did sex hormone research and all he did was jack off rats and rabbits)).

 

[Dr Jordanian]

Well but wouldn't the counter argument be that most DDS programs nowadays have a very similar basic sciences curriculum to the MD programs? I mean, wouldn't it be more like just doing 1-2 years of rotations and perhaps a few physicianship classes to equate? I dunno, I think I would consider a Dentist who got a 1 year MD equivalent to a 'normal' MD.

hi vihsadas,
IN an ideal world ; maybe!🙂
but more and more dental schools are trying to include their first year students in those newly comprehensive care dental school clinics that the level of medical knowledge of a dentist is not only deminishing but almost getting closer and closer to zero! when i used to see patients in the school clinic, i felt that they thought of me as being much more knewledgable in their medical conditions/ medications...etc....unfortunately i wasn`t !
and i don`t believe it was me ! its the over-all system. that was partially the reason that i decided to stop at this point in the dental field and pursue a "different perspective!". Besides, unfortunately I felt that the US dental educational system tends to turn into more and more techniques and stay away from medicine where the roles of a dentist and a doctor in the health care process is even much more distinct, no overlapping not even on the very far edges!😀
and i simply wanted to do both.

 

[154465]

I wouldnt say that studying for the MCAT is useless, but I have noticed that lots of ppl with avg(30-32 MCATs) and decent GPAs(3.5-3.7) getting into top tier (ivies,UCs) medical schools because of their ECs. From my experience, alot of those top schools will put a lot of emphasis on research, and highly value ppl that have done it(even though, most likely all they were doing BS/mundane tasks such as titrations, cleaning dishes, or killing/jacking off rats or rabbits (not kidding, a buddy of mine did sex hormone research and all he did was jack off rats and rabbits)).

Sounds like he had a blast... heh heh heh.

 

[Dr Jordanian]

Wait!? You are gunning for a PhD just to increase your chances of getting into plastics?

did it sound that bad?!

 

[LavenderDoll88]

Thank you guys... 😳

Sigh.

 

[mcatslave]

when do we start getting rejections...... i'm still waiting

 

[cliquesh]

when do we start getting rejections...... i'm still waiting

probably a month after you are complete, assuming you applied to top private schools. If you have amazing stats, like 35+mcat, you might be getting interviews soon. But if you are about average, I think you'll start hearing stuff in about a 1.5months, give or take.

 

[speedyk]

Yup. It's frustrating that after 2 1/2 months I don't really feel that my application has really been reviewed anywhere (except GT which gave me a prompt rejection). I guess I'm going to have to start prepping to retake the MCAT (10/10/11) next year since I haven't heard **** from most schools. It sucks.

 

[monkily_stealth]

OP, I've been complete 3 months and I have no interview invites. And before you write that off to my incompetence, I had 4 last year. So I have no clue what happened here, since my app only improved. 😕

 

[Nookular]

yea, i'm kissing any dreams of yale or northwestern goodbye.

Has yale done anything yet? I know NW has been updating, but I haven't heard anything on Yale or Harvard. Any news?