MidwestMD said:
Congrats to everyone who matched in Heme/Onc this yr!
Now that you've been through the whole process, I was just wondering what programs you all felt were top programs? Aside from copying and pasting the dubious "US News & World Report" rankings and excluding the obvious programs like MD Anderson, Sloan Kettering, Dana Farber, Hopkins, and The "Hutch," I'm pretty oblivious to what are considered top notch programs (particularly in the East Coast and Midwest).
I'm definitely interested in Academia but have a weak (read: non-existant) research background. Probably leaning more towards Onc but am open to Heme. ANY advice would be appreciated!
there is no such think as a true fellowship ranking, mainly as fellowship is the transition period between residency and the real world, an thus various future professional pathways will impact what would be the best fit for you...
there is heme vs onc vs hem malig. vs solid vs BMT
practice vs academia
small practice vs group practice
clinical research vs basic research
basic research vs translational
and so on....
to give an overview on those programs on the east that I know of...
dana farber: largest research universe inc MIT and all Harvard labs, clinical training at MGH and Brigham, tailored towards basic research, not nessesary a place for excellent clinical trainng or clininical research, but obviously absolute top...really only a shot if you are a resident at MGH or Brigham or have an PhD or at least SIGNIFICANT research..i.e multiple 1st author
BI: entirely outpt training, no floor coverage, good clinical training, decent research, but only with BI faculty, which is somewhat limited, excellent signal transduction group...mostly recruits BI residents, the deal for people who have to stay in Boston but don't get in DANA FArber..which kind of has an impact on atmosphere...you will get excellent training there though
Yale: excellent research opportunities, for some reason total disconnect from fellowship program, no mentoring at this point, broad clinical exposure inc VA, will expand with new cancer center, will become more competitive, at this point not competitive, but probably under rated, better for heme than onc at this point
Cornell: strong heme and heme malignancy, small program, no solids, can do research at rockefeller or MSKCC, thus a backdoor deal, if you want to work with someone at these places..otherwise there are many better places
MSKCC: together with MD Anderson the place to train if you are interested in clinical research, no heme, as a matter of fact they will make its almost impossible to double board...training with absolut world leaders, maybe a bit too private, almost all referal, no good translational research at this point, but also excellent basic research opportunities at rockefeller...one of the most competitive places
Columbia: in disarray at this point, with no chairman, however, excellent department with good research, 2nd best in NY, otherwise there are many better places half as competitive as they are not in NY
UPenn: excellent research, top 3 in that regard, clinical referal base smaller, limited in clinical research, but offers great opportunities for MS at Upenn for clinical investifation. will open huge outpatient pavilln in 2008 which will impact patinet flow significantly, aggresively expanding. excellent BMT, academically one of the best, integrated clinical training in heme and onc, absolut top for heme, possible interaction with CHOP and peds heme/Onc if interested
Fox Chase: hard core clinical, maybe the best clinical training you can get...some very well regarded faculty, 1 year at Fox Chase, 1 year at Temple...integrated training hem/onc, somewhat researchwise limited, almost no interaction of research opportunities and fellowship, and almost no time either as 2 years clinical training minimum..best place to go if private practise is your cup of tea
Johns Hopkins: excellent research, top3, excellent clinical training, best at any of the large academic centers, strong interaction with NIH. in my eyes the best training program in the country..but Baltimore...huh ;-)
NIH: lost a lot of reputation as a training program, can not recommend unless strong academic interest in either basic research or clinical study conduct and no interest in clinical training
a somewhat random ranking of the east coast in tiers ..obviously this is not comprehensive at all
dana farber, MSKCC, JOhns Hopkins, Penn
BI, Cornell, Columbia
Yale, Mt Sinai, Fox Chase, U Maryland
NYU, Albert Einstein, Jefferson,
RWJ, Tufts, dartmouth, BU