Hey, should I be jealous??

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Serenity Now!!!

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So heres the deal, my wife and I are applying to pharm for 2006. We live in FLa so were applying to the usual suspects (NSU, PBA, Mercer) We applied real early and sent our 2ndary as well in mid-August. However, while my wife already got an interview for PBA and NSU, I havnt even gotten a confirmation from NSU and PBA (in getting my 2ndary). Mercer has written me that my file is complete and theyre just waiting for my Oct PCAT scores for "Further Evaluation". My wife is diplomatically reasoning that the reason that she got a response so soon was because she had begun applying last year but deferred her app. Is she just blowing smoke up my butt?? We have very similar stats and we said that its all good if at least one of us get in for 2006. I am so happy for her...but the chauvenist in me is feeling like a dried up piece of dog crap. :meanie: Last night were went to the mall looking for an outfit for her interview and she had the nerve to say "Now I have to worry about my interview when I should be studying for the Oct PCAT" I was like "I wish I had your worries!!!" I guess thats human nature. Oh well back to the waiting game :laugh:
 
bananaface said:
If her app was reviewed last year and she deferred, it makes snese that they'd have hers ready to go sooner. Yours is probably being reviewed in the order of arrival. Hers was already done.
Thanks for the response 👍
 
i would actually like to hear other's perpectives on this issue....

say the woman is more sucessful than you..... big deal or not?

ok
how about say the woman is as successful as you want to be yet you are not there yet?

and on the flip side....
how do the girls feel about guys who do not "meet their potential" ?


i think this discussion happens in most relationships in pharmacy school.

and what isn't like the #1 reason for divorce finances?
 
bbmuffin said:
i would actually like to hear other's perpectives on this issue....

say the woman is more sucessful than you..... big deal or not?

ok
how about say the woman is as successful as you want to be yet you are not there yet?

and on the flip side....
how do the girls feel about guys who do not "meet their potential" ?


i think this discussion happens in most relationships in pharmacy school.

and what isn't like the #1 reason for divorce finances?

I understand what you mean. but for me it really isnt a problem if my wife is more "successful" than me. Im a teacher by trade and if things were different, id probably remain a teacher. If that were the case I wouldnt feel threatened b/c my wife was a pharmacist pulling down 3x my salary (hey thats more for me.... However thats probably not the case for a lot of men...or is it? anyway I grew up with a strong mother who for a long time made more money than my dad, and there was no problem...my dad was still head of the house and they made decisions TOGETHER. This in my view causes the problems: one person feels that because they make more money, then the other partner should have less say in what they do with it. I told my wife (jokingly) you could be the 'bread winner' and ill take care of the kids!! I personally dont need a fat paycheck to confirm my masculinity (trust me, my wife would agree) Well thats my opinion I could be wrong
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Serenity Now!!! said:
I understand what you mean. but for me it really isnt a problem if my wife is more "successful" than me. Im a teacher by trade and if things were different, id probably remain a teacher. If that were the case I wouldnt feel threatened b/c my wife was a pharmacist pulling down 3x my salary (hey thats more for me.... However thats probably not the case for a lot of men...or is it? anyway I grew up with a strong mother who for a long time made more money than my dad, and there was no problem...my dad was still head of the house and they made decisions TOGETHER. This in my view causes the problems: one person feels that because they make more money, then the other partner should have less say in what they do with it. I told my wife (jokingly) you could be the 'bread winner' and ill take care of the kids!! I personally dont need a fat paycheck to confirm my masculinity (trust me, my wife would agree) Well thats my opinion I could be wrong
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Just wondering... what do you mean that they made the decisions together, but that your dad was STILL the "Head of the House"?? Why is one partner designated the head of the house if they are equal to one another in decision-making and responsibilities?? I'm sorry, I don't mean to sound as if I'm attacking you over one comment, but I just really don't understand how we can use this term anymore. Do you feel that you should be the head of house because you're a man? Did you mention that because you're concerned about losing YOUR status as "head of house"? I've just always felt that "head of house" implies that one person is the boss, and, in a sense, ruling over the other spouse, or having the final word.
If a marriage is truly an equal partnership, then I don't see why one person would be the "head of house." I think the term carries a baaad connotation.
 
ABK44 said:
Just wondering... what do you mean that they made the decisions together, but that your dad was STILL the "Head of the House"?? Why is one partner designated the head of the house if they are equal to one another in decision-making and responsibilities?? I'm sorry, I don't mean to sound as if I'm attacking you over one comment, but I just really don't understand how we can use this term anymore. Do you feel that you should be the head of house because you're a man? Did you mention that because you're concerned about losing YOUR status as "head of house"? I've just always felt that "head of house" implies that one person is the boss, and, in a sense, ruling over the other spouse, or having the final word.
If a marriage is truly an equal partnership, then I don't see why one person would be the "head of house." I think the term carries a baaad connotation.
i feel as if the man should be the head of the house... even though i do want to be consulted over every decision that effects us both

i personally want my man to be boss
i want him to take care of things around the house...
i want him to take care of me and our family...

but alas... i think that we are both a dying breed....
 
bbmuffin said:
i feel as if the man should be the head of the house... even though i do want to be consulted over every decision that effects us both

i personally want my man to be boss
i want him to take care of things around the house...
i want him to take care of me and our family...

but alas... i think that we are both a dying breed....

uh, yeah... i think you are.

but, hey, that's your choice, your household, so that's fine if that makes you happy. i just have to say that it does blow me away to hear a woman say that she feels that way. i just can't fathom wanting to be... "bossed" by my husband, and i think we should take care of each other. i really believe in splitting it 50/50, it's a partnership... between equals.

but everyone's entitled to their opinion...

hey, to each his (or HER) own, right?
 
ABK44 said:
Just wondering... what do you mean that they made the decisions together, but that your dad was STILL the "Head of the House"?? Why is one partner designated the head of the house if they are equal to one another in decision-making and responsibilities?? I'm sorry, I don't mean to sound as if I'm attacking you over one comment, but I just really don't understand how we can use this term anymore. Do you feel that you should be the head of house because you're a man? Did you mention that because you're concerned about losing YOUR status as "head of house"? I've just always felt that "head of house" implies that one person is the boss, and, in a sense, ruling over the other spouse, or having the final word.
If a marriage is truly an equal partnership, then I don't see why one person would be the "head of house." I think the term carries a baaad connotation.
Ill assume that youre honestly curious and not trying to start something where there really isnt anything to start...my parents are from a different culture (West Indian) where the man was seen as the head of the house hold. Now what visual that conjures up in your mind may not be the reality of the situation...this was 30+ years ago!!! obviously times have changed but the term is still relevant. I challenge anyone from Asian, African, Middle eastern backgrounds to prove me wrong, (but I digress..) My dad wasnt the overbearing type although I had alot of neighbors and friends whose dads were tyrants!!!. He is my mom's partner and It didnt matter how much $$ either of them made. Now where in my post did I mention that I was worried about losing my Status as head of the house?? I was responding to a very interesting comment another poster had pointed out. My original post dealt with my wife getting a response from Pharm. school before me. The title of my post was "Hey, should I be jealous?" it was a tongue-in-cheek commentary. Dont paraphrase and dont ASSume. Please re-read the post before making unwarrented comments. 👍

You said: [If a marriage is truly an equal partnership, then I don't see why one person would be the "head of house."]

Just so you know I totally agree! and at least in my case thats the truth
 
Just an aside about not receiving confirmation from NOVA... when i applied, they seemed pretty disorganized- stay on top of them until they give you confirmation of your apps.
 
ABK44 said:
uh, yeah... i think you are.

but, hey, that's your choice, your household, so that's fine if that makes you happy. i just have to say that it does blow me away to hear a woman say that she feels that way. i just can't fathom wanting to be... "bossed" by my husband, and i think we should take care of each other. i really believe in splitting it 50/50, it's a partnership... between equals.

but everyone's entitled to their opinion...

hey, to each his (or HER) own, right?

I'm from an Indian family, and we are modern in that my sister and I have both been raised to be independent and take care of ourselves (not depend on your man), and my mother overall makes more $ than my dad. My mom is an RN, my dad is an engineer. This is including times when he's been laid off or looking for a job, which has happened a lot.

But guess who's the head of the house? My dad. No question about that.
 
ABK44 said:
uh, yeah... i think you are.

but, hey, that's your choice, your household, so that's fine if that makes you happy. i just have to say that it does blow me away to hear a woman say that she feels that way. i just can't fathom wanting to be... "bossed" by my husband, and i think we should take care of each other. i really believe in splitting it 50/50, it's a partnership... between equals.

but everyone's entitled to their opinion...

hey, to each his (or HER) own, right?


So why don't you ask her on a date? 😍 :laugh:
 
Serenity Now!!! said:
Ill assume that youre honestly curious and not trying to start something where there really isnt anything to start...my parents are from a different culture (West Indian) where the man was seen as the head of the house hold. Now what visual that conjures up in your mind may not be the reality of the situation...this was 30+ years ago!!! obviously times have changed but the term is still relevant. I challenge anyone from Asian, African, Middle eastern backgrounds to prove me wrong, (but I digress..) My dad wasnt the overbearing type although I had alot of neighbors and friends whose dads were tyrants!!!. He is my mom's partner and It didnt matter how much $$ either of them made. Now where in my post did I mention that I was worried about losing my Status as head of the house?? I was responding to a very interesting comment another poster had pointed out. My original post dealt with my wife getting a response from Pharm. school before me. The title of my post was "Hey, should I be jealous?" it was a tongue-in-cheek commentary. Dont paraphrase and dont ASSume. Please re-read the post before making unwarrented comments. 👍

You said: [If a marriage is truly an equal partnership, then I don't see why one person would be the "head of house."]

Just so you know I totally agree! and at least in my case thats the truth


I really wanted it to be clear in my posts that i was NOT attacking anyone or trying to "start something," honestly. and, yeah, i was very curious, or i wouldn't have bothered to post (since i rarely post at all). i made no "unwarranted" comments. i stated my opinions, and i raised some questions, because it was, obviously, an issue that i felt very strongly about, so try not to "ASSume" very much into it either. nice touch, by the way, thanks alot.
believe me, i'm fully aware that things were quite different 30+ years ago, all i'm saying is that (in MY opinion, which seems to be very unpopular on this board) things either have, or should, change. i just don't believe those standards fit anymore. don't just assume that i don't know what you're talking about concerning the roles you've described that your parents held in the house. i wouldn't have to look to different cultures/backgrounds to find evidence of that scenario. it actually sounds like a very similar situation to my family. my mom and dad both worked and were successful, but when it came down to it, my dad was the "head of the house." but just because that was the case for them, doesn't mean it has to be for me.
i never made one comment about your original topic of "should i be jealous?" i think that question definitely has merit. i found your posts interesting, because my husband and i are also both applying to pharmacy school for next year, and i don't run into many couples in the same situation as ours. the idea of resentment or jealousy if only one of us gets in is a serious concern that's buried deep in the back of my mind... and it goes for either one of us. so i completely empathize with you about that.
i applaud you if you truly do support your wife in all her endeavors (just as she does for you, i hope), but, as a woman, i can't help but have my guard up for anything that sets off an "oppressive-comment-or-action-towards-women" red flag. i just feel soooo strongly about it, and i can admit that i might be a little over-zealous at times to find a seemingly harmless comment offensive and sexist, but... it comes down to this: the bottom line is that it absolutely infuriates me to know that there are people in the world that think women are inferior because they're women. that's it. that's where all this is coming from. i know from your response that you did NOT mean to imply that (whew... what a relief :laugh: ), but please try to see where i'm coming from with all of that, ok?
what do you say... no hard feelings?
 
ABK44 said:
please try to see where i'm coming from with all of that, ok?
what do you say... no hard feelings?
hey No problem, misunderstandings occur all the time. It extremely mature on your part to say what you said in your last quote. and I DO understand where youre coming from. Good luck to you.

Awww...its practically a lovefest in this thread. (what gives???) :laugh:
 
kellia said:
Just an aside about not receiving confirmation from NOVA... when i applied, they seemed pretty disorganized- stay on top of them until they give you confirmation of your apps.
This is very true, I emailed ms. Templin b/c I finally got a letter telling me what Im missing: Orgo, Speech, Stats...1 letter of evauation, All things that I have done already. on a slight aside; My wife had her interview on Friday at PBA and the Dean said a large proportion of applicants dont check to see if all their sh_T has been received...thats why (in his/ her opinion) alot of people dont get interview. It could also be the case at other schools. So just a "heads up" to anyone reading this.
 
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