High Stat Applicants-Did you get yield protected from state schools?

[MilesDavisTheDoctor]

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As application time grows nearer and I finalize my school list I have heard about lower tier schools yield protecting applicants with high stats. I have a LizzyM of around 82 and I wanted to know if any past applicants have had the experience of their state schools rejecting them seemingly because their stats were too high. I'm interested in this in particular because I am one of those high stat applicants with EC's that aren't too special so i'm not really counting on getting into any top-20 schools and am really hoping I can get into at least one of my state schools in NY.

Thanks!

 

[965978]

You can't just assume that yield protection was the reason for rejection. Often times, state schools have very specific missions such as service to a specific community, social injustice, etc.

 

[stayathomemom]

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[907914]

Your state schools likely won’t yield protect you. From what i can tell, Yield protection is more of a low yield/low stats out-of-state private school concern.

 

[faerie62]

Yeah, it's kind of hard to say whether you were yield protected or just weren't what they were looking for. I'd guess the majority of people who claim they were "yield protected" just weren't good enough in other aspects, lol.

 

[labscience]

State schools aren't stupid, they know they're likely going to be the smartest financial choices when it comes down to deciding between acceptances, so they're not going to assume in-state high stat applicants they admit will go somewhere higher ranked

Plus "state schools" as a whole encompasses a wide range of schools that have different averages, policies, and quality of education-- look at UCSF and UMich (and I'm from Mass so I know the woe of having a state school with crazy high average scores lol)

 

[freedoctor17]

I did as far as I could tell. Two of my state schools with lower stats never sent me an interview. Ended up getting interviews at 3of my state schools though still and one of those 3 had low stats as well. So still worth applying since you won't know for sure. Like someone else said i may just not have matched their mission.

 

[Mooseforkicks]

Though it isn’t usually possible to determine a specific reason why someone doesn’t get accepted, yield protection probably happens. However, from experience of myself and others I know, it seems to be more pronounced with OOR schools (public or private). Many schools take into account that some people want to stay in state/region, even with higher than average stats.

n=1, but I was accepted to my state school and several other schools in the geographic region, even with significantly higher than average stats. I had very poor luck, however, with schools with much lower average stats that were on the other side of the country.

Especially with the number of NY schools, if you apply to all and have an otherwise decent app/interviewing skills, you have a decent chance of staying in state.

 

[Gilakend]

I agree with others, while yield protection is real I feel like it would be much less common among IS institutions. My guess would be it was due to other reasons.

 

[meronebib]

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[capriccio]

I doubt state schools and privates with in-state preferences actively yield protect from their own IS high stat applicants. They know they have the financial and, potentially, the location incentives compared to OOS privates/publics.

Also BRO I looked at your WAMC thread and with your caliber of ECs, you have a good chance of getting into a T20, and as long as you don't totally screw up your essays, you'll almost certainly get IIs from them. You're right in that a T20 acceptance is never and will never be a guarantee, but don't be so timid that you completely underestimate your chances. Spend quality time on crafting your narrative, submit in a timely manner, practice interviewing, and you will have a very good application cycle.

 

[YungMufti]

If I'm reading this thread correctly, the consensus is a resounding yes, no, and there's no way to tell. A meta-analysis seems to support the latter. I'll echo the med school application version of Pascal's Wager - you ought to apply to your IS schools in an effort to avoid getting no acceptances, provided you would matriculate at any of them if it were your only acceptance.

Cynicism would lead me to wonder whether the opacity of admissions processes isn't taking advantage of folks in your position, and many others, whether by intention or useful consequence.

 

[DontTradOnMe]

No! My stats are basically the same as yours and I’ve gotten interviews at all the SUNYs that I applied to. And nowhere else in NY, lol.

Also, OOS schools with similar median GPA/MCATs to these in state ones have not shown me love.

 

[CheeseIsLife]

No for in-state yield protection, yes for OOS yield protection.

I got interviews at 4 of 5 in-state schools I applied to, with an MCAT > 10th percentile at each. My only OOS interviews were at schools where my MCAT score was around 50th percentile or slightly lower.

 

[kakaaw]

From Cali. No interview invite to UCI, UCR, USC - but interviewed at UCSD, UCLA, UCSF, Stanford

 

[DrFortiusNatando]

Many mid-tier and higher state schools offer interviews and acceptances even to top stat applicants. Sometimes, they are able to recruit these students bc 1) MONEY - esp if student comes from upper middle class background or are non-traditional and parents are not interested in contributing significantly, it might be a very wise decision for a high stat student to choose their state school, if mid tier and above bc private schools will not likely offer much $$$ and 2) GEOGRAPHIC preference - students may want to be in their home state to be close to family, friends, and other support systems. 3) sometimes even top stat students do not get into the T20 schools - due to bad luck, meh essays or interviews, etc.

One of my advisees with LizzyM 78/ivy from New England mid tier state school immediately got II and accepted into the state school back in OCT (despite late complete date of Sept 22), and ultimately got into 5 of the 7 T10 to which he applied. He was not resource or yield-protected out from his state school. However, he did get yield-protected out by most of the other private schools ranked from about 20-40 to which he applied. This is pretty typical. His safeties knew that they were safeties. But the state school took a chance bc there might have been good reasons for him to end up choosing them and they felt it was worth the risk. Another top advisee that I had a couple years ago, from a T5 UG and 2 gap yrs of great cancer bench research at Harvard surprisingly only got acceptances at Jeff and this same state school and is now graduating at top of this state school with little debt and got top residency interviews and top step 1 score.

California is its own unique system and I do see what happened to kakaaw happen to California applicants, for sure. UCI and UCR know they are safeties for a top applicant.