honoring IM clerkship

[obiwan]

how important is it to honor medicine if you want to do it during residency? medicine is at the top for me but unfortunately, i'm doing it right now as my first rotation and honesty i don't know crap...

---

Members don't see this ad.

 

[NotAProgDirector]

how important is it to honor medicine if you want to do it during residency? medicine is at the top for me but unfortunately, i'm doing it right now as my first rotation and honesty i don't know crap...

Rumor has it that some tip-top programs use an Honors on third year medicine as a "screen". Honestly, I'm not sure I believe this at all. Most programs won't care -- it depends on the rest of your application.

That being said:

1. No medical student knows anything useful in July.
2. Getting Honors in medicine on Block 1 is all about growth -- if by the end of the month you're "getting it" and starting to work somewhat independently, then your grade will be fine.
3. The shelf exam, if used by your school, is scaled over time. The percentiles are broken out by quarter, so it's "easier" to score a certain percentile early in the year.

Work your hardest, and learn the crap!

 

[crys20]

aprogdirector - my school doesn't have honors, just pass/fail. we do get a percentage grade reported. will this be a detriment to me at the better programs?

 

[NotAProgDirector]

aprogdirector - my school doesn't have honors, just pass/fail. we do get a percentage grade reported. will this be a detriment to me at the better programs?

It will not matter, as long as the MSPE is clear. A small number of medical schools (mostly DO) report a percentage without any background. I.e. "crys20 got a 90% on IM". What does that mean? Did you do well? or did everyone else get a 99?

 

[DrJosephKim]

as long as you shine during your M4 year as a sub-intern (or acting intern), you'll be fine. Your letters will reflect your caliber and qualifications.

 

[validioxus]

Hey guys,

Sort of in the same dilemma.

Just wrapped up my first clerkship of 3rd year -- Internal Med -- and I scored slightly below the mean on the shelf exam (scored a 77; groupmean of 79; worth approximately 35% of total grade). I've gotten good evals, and I've done pretty decently on everything else in the clerkship but I think I may fall short of the High Pass score overall. Won't know for a while.

I know that IM is such an essential clerkship to do well in for almost all specialties. My question is -- how would one make up for a subpar final grade in the IM clerkship? Is it simply by honoring an AI? Is that sufficient to explain why I may have underperformed for my first clerkship of 3rd year?

Did well on step 1 (250+) but as of now, I feel like that all I've got to hang my hat on. I realize that this may be a bit of an overreaction, but it's hard to really gauge how bad of a position I'm in. Any fourth years/residents willing to comment on it?

 

[235009]

Hey guys,

Sort of in the same dilemma.

Just wrapped up my first clerkship of 3rd year -- Internal Med -- and I scored slightly below the mean on the shelf exam (scored a 77; groupmean of 79; worth approximately 35% of total grade). I've gotten good evals, and I've done pretty decently on everything else in the clerkship but I think I may fall short of the High Pass score overall. Won't know for a while.

I know that IM is such an essential clerkship to do well in for almost all specialties. My question is -- how would one make up for a subpar final grade in the IM clerkship? Is it simply by honoring an AI? Is that sufficient to explain why I may have underperformed for my first clerkship of 3rd year?

Did well on step 1 (250+) but as of now, I feel like that all I've got to hang my hat on. I realize that this may be a bit of an overreaction, but it's hard to really gauge how bad of a position I'm in. Any fourth years/residents willing to comment on it?

Basically everyone honors AI/subI. That grade is pretty meaningless. Things you can do would be to get strong letters, do well the rest of third year and take step 2 early and do well.

 

[validioxus]

Thanks for advice. Think a good Step 2 counters a subpar IM grade? Would it be worth taking early even with a good Step 1 score?

 

[obiwan]

wow, can't believe this thread was started 6 years ago by me

basically do well during your SubI to get good letters and an honors grade (i don't necessarily agree that everyone gets an honors grade automatically). i would only recommend to take step 2 early if you wanna get it out of the way but if you did well on step 1, a good score on step 2 won't really help you that much IMO

 

[validioxus]

wow, can't believe this thread was started 6 years ago by me

basically do well during your SubI to get good letters and an honors grade (i don't necessarily agree that everyone gets an honors grade automatically). i would only recommend to take step 2 early if you wanna get it out of the way but if you did well on step 1, a good score on step 2 won't really help you that much IMO

Ended up with a P. 20% HP, 20% H at our school. Average was an 87. Do programs see scores or just the P? I guess the class rank is where the actual score becomes important. Thanks for the advice.

 

[mercaptovizadeh]

Ended up with a P. 20% HP, 20% H at our school. Average was an 87. Do programs see scores or just the P? I guess the class rank is where the actual score becomes important. Thanks for the advice.

It will close some doors. Honor the SubI and honor as many other clerkships and you are maximizing your chances. IM would probably most care about other core clerkships like GS, peds, ob/gyn, neuro, but will also care about inpatient IM electives like consult services and critical care rotations.