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Yea I do, it's called being a physician.
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Yea I do, it's called being a physician.
It took me a long, long time to come to the realization that some people are just 'better' (subjectively not in reality). Some guys really do have it all. The best grades, the best speciality, the most money, the good looks, the height, the social skills, the whatever.
The fact of the matter is a lot of these things are out of your control and involve a good bit of luck and inheritance. There will always be people that have more and do more. Until you come to the realization that you are your own person with your own set of challenges you will continue to experience turmoil.
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That's the thing. I want to be that guy. That's a great life. Not my pathetic excuse for a life.
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If that is all you're looking for, I would spend many hours reviewing the postbac. forum, starting here: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/the-new-improved-official-low-gpa-thread.125347/. You will find countless stories of people that dug themselves out of comparable holes.
I should have worded my post differently. I said 'subjectively' because having those things doesn't actually make you a better person.
I felt the same way for a loooooong time. But i know that wont happen, and thats alright. I can't grow another foot, change my facial structure or change my inherent personality. But I can work just as hard as anyone and cut out a great life for myself. Stop feeling sorry for yourself and play to your strengths.
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You reevaluate your priorities and decide that viewing the scenery as you travel is of more value than racing by too fast to appreciate what's around you. You find the positives that can arise from the lemons that life hands you.
If you won't be happy until you are a physician, you will have a very long time being unhappy.
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If you read my original post, then you'd know that my only strength is my ability to fail classes.
Tell me what exactly are the positives of my situation? Please, I'd like to know.
And so my Watch begins.
If you just become a primary care doctor are you going to be upset because you aren't top paid orthopedic specialist? Your goals are far from realistic at this point. You should be focused in getting into ANY DO period.
If you place happiness on the other side of success your brain never gets there. Because even if you succeed at one thing the high will last for awhile but it will fade and you'll always be looking for the next promotion. You have to learn to be happy and content in the now.
If you place happiness on the other side of success your brain never gets there. Because even if you succeed at one thing the high will last for awhile but it will fade and you'll always be looking for the next promotion. You have to learn to be happy and content in the now.
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Or you can marry and have kids now... And then apply to medical school
Easy for you to say. Be in my position yourself, then we can talk.
There is nothing to be content with in my "now".
Wow, didn't think of that. That makes even more sense then having them during med school/residency. Absolutely brilliant.
Well then clean up the mess you made and move forward. Everyone here has offered suggestions and seems to me that you're not considering any of the ideas which really make me think that you're trolling. That and the fact that you just created a new account 😀
Actually, Im really starting to think this OP is trolling.
Yep. That's why there is no rush in applying to medical school.
OP is looking for a pity party. 70 thoughtful replies from dozens of people it all gets shot down. Not a sign of someone who is receptive to advice and wants to succeed in getting into medical school.
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Well I have a feeling med schools might feel the same when they see your 2.0
Most Orthopedists Can Expect to Be Sued
If you practice orthopedic surgery long enough, the odds are good that someone will hit you with this sort of lawsuit, says pathologist David B. Troxel, MD, medical director of The Doctors Company in Napa, California, the nation's largest insurer of physician and surgeon medical liability.
In 2014, patients and families filed malpractice lawsuits against 18% of orthopedic surgeons, he says. According to a 2011 study, orthopedics is the fourth most sued specialty, after neurosurgery, cardiothoracic surgery, and general surgery. http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/851706
The only suggestion was to retake classes till I'm 30 and then apply to low tier crappy DO schools and hope to get in. I heard the advice, just not thrilled about it. And yea, I know, it's my fault. Not thrilled about that either.
I was being sarcastic. That's a terrible idea. People who do that shouldn't have kids.
Hopefully by the time I'm 30, they won't.
I see, there's the bright side. I won't be good enough for my dream job and continue to be a failure, but at least I won't have to worry about an 18% chance of being sued. Woopdeedoo.
Okay... there's no way you're 25. you have to be like a college sophomore with terrible grades and catfishing us. You're ridiculous.
Hmm... Could you explain?
Becoming a physician makes you eligible to care for the sick, happiness is your own business.
You can do all these things in undergraduate and still get straight A's. I would seriously recommend you think about your ability to perform well in a class before you attempt any retakes. It would be a waste of time and effort to go back to class if you were to just get poor grades again.
The OP came in with a set of circumstances seeking advice. Many good people put time and effort into passing on the best possible options for them. They were not pleased to see how rough a road was ahead and also felt insulted by some tough love. Now it has digressed into something that should end. Please preserve this thread's integrity for the people who come after us. Those who are in a similar situation as OP and come here with an open mind ready to do what is needed. Lets end this on a positive note and move on now, together.
I was going to stick the knife in the OP, but dang it, Syns, you have to go talk sense!!!!
I mean do I have too? You can't have a family during or before med school when you're living off student loans, or during residency when you're working long long long hours. It's just not doable.
Lol, not at the rate of alcohol, weed, and women I was consuming.
The advice was good, I didn't say it wasn't. It freaking sucks. But that's the story of my life. Just have to accept that my life will never be as great as other peoples. Forgive me if I don't magically swallow that pill overnight.
>tfw I could have been one of these people if I didn't end up getting a 72 LizzyM score
I still haven't finishing applying though so I might eat my words later on
I still haven't finishing applying though so I might eat my words later on
C'mon man you're delusional. You couldn't match ortho if you went into your back yard, struck oil, put a new building up at your local MD school and purchased a new ortho wing for your chosen residency program.
Give up your dream, you screwed it up so take the lesson learned and acquire a new target.
Give up your dream, you screwed it up so take the lesson learned and acquire a new target.
With a 2.0 the highest LM you can get is a 65 so I'm not sure what you're talking about or what your point is haha
Oh I have a 3.47 lol
I'm sure you're familiar with my famous thread: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/2016-2017-underdogs-thread.1208847/
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Then why are you a physician? Obviously because it makes you happy.
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Not at all. The satisfaction of caring for the vulnerable, of a job well done, could have been achieved in other professions.
My happiness is not dependent on being a physician.
Oh please give me a break. I love it when people say they became a physician because of some elaborated version of "wanting to help sick people." Nurses help sick people, PAs help sick people, even PCAs and EMTs help sick people on some base level.
Why then put yourself through 4 years of med school and residency? Because on some level to you, "wanting to help sick people" isn't enough. You want to be the person IN CHARGE of the decision making. You are attracted to the power and the status it brings. You and so many others just choose to coat that fact with fancy words and phrases to make it seem like its a more altruistic goal than it really is.
There are 9 parents in my class currently. Definitely doable if in the right situation.
But really OP, you really have no choice but a few more years of school to retake classes/Post-Bacc/etc... Your GPA screams "not smart enough for med school" (let alone the whole ortho or bust mentality). You dug a hole and there is no shortcut out other than to climb up.
It was the best way I could use my skills to help others.
It has allowed me to be a voice for the voiceless on a local, state and federal level.
I'm quite confident that I would have found a way to be of service in another way had I not been honored with this opportunity.
I'm glad that I did it, but my happiness is a separate issue.
And I want a 500 million dollars and a $40M super yacht. The difference between my want and your want is that I have a chance to obtain mine, they draw them ping pong balls randomly every few days...
Nah, they're doing it wrong. Can't take care of children during the hell that is residency.
All fancy ways of saying "I like power and the status of being an MD". Come on man, don't be in denial. Admit it. Admit that you like the title of "MD".
You still use those skills as a nurse or a PA, or surgical tech, or a paramedic. But yet the question still remains, why pursue the letters MD?
Your chances of actually winning those things are so small I may as well be the world's greatest ortho surgeon by that logic.
There is only one person in denial here, and I'm pretty sure it isn't me.
What I meant was that I can at least improve my chances by following the advice given here. You can't.
You still haven't answered why specifically you wanted the "MD" as opposed to an RN or a PA. Well I guess you did in a way, "best way to use your skills" (as if people have specific skills just for being an MD), "voice for people on a national level" (yea, that's also called power), but of course, keep telling yourself that its some kind of altruistic reason when in reality you know you did it for the status and the benefits that brings.[/QUOTE]
You still haven't answered why specifically you wanted the "MD" as opposed to an RN or a PA. Well I guess you did in a way, "best way to use your skills" (as if people have specific skills just for being an MD), "voice for people on a national level" (yea, that's also called power), but of course, keep telling yourself that its some kind of altruistic reason when in reality you know you did it for the status and the benefits that brings.[/QUOTE]
Ahh, so there we go, I wouldn't be surprised if your dreamatroll's Jekyll. You want to be that guy, you want to be the big shot, but you had your opportunity and you blew it. There were plenty of people now, who did all that you did during undergrad, but the difference is that they are MD's, and well, your the boss of your own cubicle.
Truth is this, you barely passed in undergrad, and somehow expect to be at the top of the mountain in medical school. Sure. And your concerns about DO school due to matching into more competitive residencies? Here's a MD for you: "Most Delusional"
No you can also be a physician too.
I know you're trolling, but you do realize that nurses and doctors do different jobs and have different skill sets, right? So yes, there are specific skills utilized by MDs.
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Without altruism, the odds of reaping benefits are modest, at best. Bitterness, perhaps.
Hahaha wow, you're some special kind of person you know that? Maybe that's what it take to be in med school. To be a judgemental, egotistical narcissist, who thinks they're so much better than a working person because they're in med school. Sure man, I'm the boss of my own cubicle, I'm earning good money (although not a doctors salary), and have a good life outside the library. I don't know why you have to be such an @$$ just because you happen to read more and live off student loans. Whatever buddy, looks like I'm not the only delusional one here.
Perhaps, but I be in the Ferrari driving by while you be in that nice old Ford. Since Winter is coming, if the heater breaks, you can just keep on wearing that high school letterman jacket you love oh so much to keep you warm big man.
That would block out a bunch of the legitimate nontrads though
Dude, why are you here? What do you hope to accomplish?
