How do I get screwed a little less.. (loans)

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I spoke with financial aid at one of the schools I got accepted to and he told me to seek a private bank for a loan and not to bother with the government loan due to it's high interest rate and loan fee. I spoke with a former PT student and she said she has 3 different loans to pay for school, one being Sallie Mae. Is this a good one to use? I know I will be getting screwed, but I just want to get screwed a little less, so what's the smart way to handle these loans?Other than taking out an equity line of credit on your home, how are you paying for school? (If feasible, this seems like a good way to go, since the lady at the bank said that's how she is paying for her sons..)

Thanks for your input!

STHERE
 
I spoke with financial aid at one of the schools I got accepted to and he told me to seek a private bank for a loan and not to bother with the government loan due to it's high interest rate and loan fee. I spoke with a former PT student and she said she has 3 different loans to pay for school, one being Sallie Mae. Is this a good one to use? I know I will be getting screwed, but I just want to get screwed a little less, so what's the smart way to handle these loans?Other than taking out an equity line of credit on your home, how are you paying for school? (If feasible, this seems like a good way to go, since the lady at the bank said that's how she is paying for her sons..)

Thanks for your input!

STHERE
My bank advisor stated government student loans have a considerably LOWER interest rate than bank loans. This is in Texas. I am not sure which school you are going to, but I expect to take out $40,000- $50,000 to cover all cost including tuition and living. I'm not worried - since I'm getting a degree that is recession proof and has an annual salary that is decent and it's only money. A lot of ppl on this forum seem preoccupied with the funds it takes to get through grad school - that's energy I'm not wasting. It will work out. Good luck!
 
I agree with Liztor! We can't waste time on what-ifs. I'm a mom of a potential OT...loans and grants will be our only way to pay. But keep looking for outside scholarships, too! and be aggressive and creative in financial options.
 
I totally disagree with the previous two posters.

Kudos to the students who are paying attention to their financial situations before they get in too deep. I know several students who graduated from USC who LOVED their education there. But are regretting their decision to attend such an expensive school when there are cheaper options available. My mentor graduated from Dominican University and was lucky enough to have a husband who could pay all the living expenses. But she still says that she will be mired in debt for a long time just to pay off the loans that she need to pay tuition. She also highly encouraged me to apply to state schools only.

Yes, OT is faring well during the recession compared to other professions. And yes, finding a job after graduation should not be too difficult. But I hope students are carefully considering all other options before taking 80,000 or more out in loans to finance their career in OT.

This website is a great tool to use to determine how much in loans to take out.

http://www.finaid.org/calculators/loanpayments.phtml

For example, if i am taking out 80 grand for a 2.5 year program (assuming it is at the government 6.8 interest rate), I need an annual salary of 110,476 to pay off the loan with standard 10 year repayment. An annual salary of 110,000? Sorry, but most OTs will make well below this amount. Of course there are other variables involved (your level of frugality, cheaper living situations, spouse income, etc.) But this is a good tool to give you a basic understanding of loan repayment after you graduate.

STHERE, I am using government loans only. I have heard some horror stories about Sallie Mae loans, but these were for undergrad loans not graduate. And they were for people who could not find full time employment after graduation (this should not be a problem for us). Something to remember is that you will need a good line of credit to be approved for a private loan, so hopefully you have that. I suggest going to their website/contacting them about your case to find out more info. Good luck.
 
What do you mean by government loans? Stafford loans? I know the student loan situation has changed somewhat in the last few years (and I graduated with my first masters in 2007.) But, a Stafford loan is still a Stafford loan. You will ALWAYS do better with government loans, and repayment on them is also much more forgiving, in terms of ability to defer or get forbearances. As another poster said, they are also not credit-based. Now, there is a cap, so if you need more than the max., you'll need to get private loans. But the general wisdom is to always supplement with private loans. The first line of attack is always government loans.

Just to add... I already have roughly $80,000 in loan from undergrad, and another masters. (Sucks, I know... I'm hoping not to have to take anything out for OT.) However, I consolidated my loans to a 25 year schedule and after several forbearances (which raise the overall monthly payment) I pay roughly $600 a month in student loan payments. Yes, this is a lot, but you certainly do not need to make $110,000 to pay it back. Even if I owed over $1000 per month on a 10 year schedule, it would be doable on much less than that, unless I lived in a very expensive area, drove an expensive car, etc.. I think those calculators assume that your student loan payment should not be more than a certain percentage of your monthly income. I'm not advocating going deep into debt when you don't need to, but OTs generally make decent money, even if not the high salaries a lot of people imagine. You get a much better return on your investment than if you took out loans for, say, architecture school (or heaven forbid a non-professional program.) And, don't forget, over the course of 10 years, or 25 years, you will likely see a substantial increase in your salary. Things will likely be tight to start, but the older you get, the more comfortable you get. Yes at the same time people often also take on more expenses, but those expenses do not always negate increases in salary.
 
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Lizzo,

Yes, I meant Stafford loans, the interest rate has gone up considerably since last year. The director of financial aid advised me not to take from federal because it's a 6.8% interest rate and a 2% loan fee. (last year was around 4%) Maybe you would know, as a graduate are we able to get subsidized loans? I was just thinking it might be better if I go strictly private with loans and take advantage of my good credit and my mom's good credit as a co-signer. There are some banks that have loans specially for healthcare degrees and much lower interest rates. Of course they are less forgiving, apparently if I croak or crippled my estate will still have to pay for the loan. Whereas the federal will be wiped clean. (apparently) It seems like a gamble worth taking in my situation.. I don't know?? What do you think?
 
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It is true that monthly payments will be easier to manage if you extend your payment plan. However, i would prefer to finish within 10 years since I do not want to be paying on the debt when I am trying to raise a family.

STHERE, there will no more subsidized loans offered to graduate students (with a few exceptions I think for certain fields like medical, and vet med) starting in July. They had to take out our subsidized loans in order to keep pell grants for undergrad individuals. Disappointing, I know. 🙁
 
I totally disagree with the previous two posters.

Kudos to the students who are paying attention to their financial situations before they get in too deep. ........
....... But she still says that she will be mired in debt for a long time just to pay off the loans that she need to pay tuition. She also highly encouraged me to apply to state schools only.

I am saying that the Govt backed loans have better provisions for an OT/OTD student.
http://www.lrp.nih.gov/eligibility/eligibility_of_individuals.aspx
http://www.finaid.org/loans/forgiveness.phtml
http://www.aota.org/Students/Aid.aspx


........But I hope students are carefully considering all other options before taking 80,000 or more out in loans to finance their career in OT.

that is exactly my point! .....There are other options! ...grants, local scholarships,etc
 
While many programs don't have a lot of funding for scholarships and fellowships, a few do. I'm considering that as I look for schools to apply to next year. I think it's always a good idea to call the admissions office and ask specifically how many people receive non-loan aid and what the average indebtedness is for graduates. UNM, one of the cheapest programs for in-state-students, has an average debt load of $35,000 for graduates, for example. They have no paid TA, RA or fellowship opportunities.
 
Im relatively new to taking out loans but will be attending an OT school this fall so I will be taking out my first one. My question when filling out my fafsa is : Are you more likely to get a bigger stafford loan (or loan in general) if you have say $50k in total assets as opposed to nothing in total assets?
 
Im relatively new to taking out loans but will be attending an OT school this fall so I will be taking out my first one. My question when filling out my fafsa is : Are you more likely to get a bigger stafford loan (or loan in general) if you have say $50k in total assets as opposed to nothing in total assets?

You are more likely to get more in total aid if you have fewer assets. I think the loan amount they offer is intended to cover costs you cannot cover, so having more assets would mean you get less $ in federal loans. Any other loans besides Stafford and Perkins you will have to apply for on your own (except maybe PLUS loans; I don't know much about those). Many banks and credit unions offer low interest student loans but they recommend you take out the max amount of federal loans you can before going this route.

Just to clarify, your school will use your FAFSA info to determine how much money you can pay toward your education (the Expected Family Contribution). Oddly, assets such as property are calculated into that and the more you have, the more you are expected to be able to pay towards your education. Kind of not fair, because who's going to take out a second mortgage on their house to pay for school?
 
Im relatively new to taking out loans but will be attending an OT school this fall so I will be taking out my first one. My question when filling out my fafsa is : Are you more likely to get a bigger stafford loan (or loan in general) if you have say $50k in total assets as opposed to nothing in total assets?

As far as I know, everyone gets the same $20,500 per year as a graduate student max.
 
I have talked to many people in the financial profession and it looks like I will be taking out the whole amount in a private loan. I was offered a much better interest rate because of my good credit. Even though it's variable my accountant said why pay 9% now when you can pay it later.. She made a good point, and the market has not gone up in 3 years and is predicted to stay the same in the next 2. Just something to think about, there is always refinancing after graduation, which I will do.
 
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