How intense is Pod. School?

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Hi Folks,

I've been tossing the idea of pod. school after shadowing a podiatrist. I'm just curious, but for those who are in a program right now, how intense is the program? Is it even difficult to just pass your classes?

Thanks!
 
Hi Folks,

I've been tossing the idea of pod. school after shadowing a podiatrist. I'm just curious, but for those who are in a program right now, how intense is the program? Is it even difficult to just pass your classes?

Thanks!

It depends on the program. I can say that at DMU, it is intense. There are solid students that fail.
 
Hi Folks,

I've been tossing the idea of pod. school after shadowing a podiatrist. I'm just curious, but for those who are in a program right now, how intense is the program? Is it even difficult to just pass your classes?

Thanks!

I can testify that the Scholl Program is intense as well. With staggering tests every 1-2 weeks, you have to use your study time very wisely to succeed. I have seen good students from competitive undergrad programs fail some tests.
 
I can testify that the Scholl Program is intense as well. With staggering tests every 1-2 weeks, you have to use your study time very wisely to succeed. I have seen good students from competitive undergrad programs fail some tests.

Damn! tests every 1-2 weeks😱. plus scholl is on quarter system right.
 
At AZPod, you have at least one test everyweek. During this past week, we had biochemistry on monday, anatomy and histology on thursday, and physiology on monday. Lots of material especially since we are doing head/neck in anatomy.
For finals week, we have 5 exams on monday-friday. We might be left with 3 students after this quarter.
 
How many pod students fail out or leave AZPOD? (out of a class of 30, correct?)
 
At AZPod, you have at least one test everyweek. During this past week, we had biochemistry on monday, anatomy and histology on thursday, and physiology on monday. Lots of material especially since we are doing head/neck in anatomy.
For finals week, we have 5 exams on monday-friday. We might be left with 3 students after this quarter.

Wait, whatt?!? Only 3 out of 30 left?? That can't be right, that's like a 90% drop out rate! Are you in the class of 08, 09, or 10?
 
Very intense! Our first two years can be very overwhelming with alot of medical foundation knowledge - but its all worth it once you begin your clinic rotations.
 
If you have ever given birth then you have an idea about the difficulty of pod school.😀
 
Things are so different at each pod school. At DMU you never have finals week b/c we have a rotating schedule. By that I mean, you start and finish classes through out the semesters. It does not make it less intense b/c you have to take Biochemistry in a 10 weeks plus you are taking Gross anatomy at the same time.
 
This question is really difficult to answer. It depends so much on the individual.

People flunk out for one of two reasons:
1) They don't work hard enough
2) They aren't intelligent enough

The vast majority of students who are accepted have the talent to get through the coursework if they apply themselves fully. Others can possibly get by with minimal effort because they are so bright, but those are also the people who can be elite physicians if they do work hard. In other cases, I feel sorry for some students who seemingly study for 6-8hrs until the library closes every night yet barely pass or flunk out of the program, but not everyone gets to be an astronaut when they grow up if you catch my drift...

I go to Barry where the pod admissions process is fairly unselective (at least they were for my '09 class), but the classes have a fair amount of attrition because of that. It's nothing like the Carribean MD schools that might accept 400 and only have 150 still around 16 months later to take the USMLE, but my podiatry professors do owe it to the profession to make sure we have the scientific knowledge to be good podiatrists and they will fail you if you don't perform adequately. By the end of the third semester, my class probably did had about 30-40% flunk out completely and some others were sent to the extended 5yr program (which kinda means you might also be circling the drain unless you really take the hint and start working harder). Some people who went to undergrad at Hopkins or Harvard have failed, so you certainly do have to work hard. I'd have confidence in 95% of the graduates practicing podiatry to at least minimal standards, and that's the way it should be.

We have people doing a one year Biomedical Sciences M.S. degree in some of our classes for the first year (they take gross anat, histo, biochem, neuro, etc with pods). Most of the people doing that degree narrowly missed med school due to undergrad GPA, and roughly half of them will get in to MD/DO programs once they complete the M.S. with good grades (and maybe re-take the MCAT in some cases). The grades they get in shared classes aren't dramatically higher than the pod students, and they also have easier lab exams and more pressure to get "A"s so that they can get into programs afterwards. The good Biomedical Sciences students who eventually make it into MD/DO programs perform pretty similar to the better pod students.

Here at Barry's program, the first semester is pretty easy since they know you're getting used to a new city, but the next 3 semesters are fairly tough depending on your prior education, work ethic, and natural talent. You have roughly one exam per week, but midterms or finals weeks might be 6 or 8 exams in a two week period (maybe 4 of them really tough). Some friends and I sleep roughly 2-5hrs per night during those weeks except for maybe one night of 10hrs to stay sane.
 
I will be attending NYCPM, and i was wondering how the freshman schedule is broken down in terms of the times of classes and the days, to get an idea of a week may go.
 
What do people (any school) feel is the hardest class? I took anatomy, found it to be a lot of studying/reviewing, but the material isn't what I consider to be difficult. However, I'm in physiology right now, and find it to be a LOT of information!! So what do 1st years consider to be the most work or hardest class?
 
This question is really difficult to answer. It depends so much on the individual.

People flunk out for one of two reasons:
1) They don't work hard enough
2) They aren't intelligent enough


These are probably the best reasons why there is a high attrition rate out of podiatry school. The other reasons usually involve person, family or illnesses. People misunderstand that podiatry school is very intense for the same reasons that medical school is intense.....the foot is attached to the rest of the body! We have to learn all the facets of the human body because we prescribe the same medicines as a regular physician would.

There is no easy way out of school, you just put your head down and work hard! It is ALL worth it in the end when you hear from your patients how good their feet feel from your treatment (be it surgery to callus removal).

One thing though, don't forget to have a little fun once in a while. You have to blow off steam, otherwise you will crack under the pressure.
 
I will be attending NYCPM, and i was wondering how the freshman schedule is broken down in terms of the times of classes and the days, to get an idea of a week may go.

1st semester

Bacteriology
BioChem
Histology
Art of Doctoring or Research Methodology (or both)?
Genetics

It is not the number of classes, or the material that will make the semester difficult it is the test schedule. There is a test every other week for each class which makes for several tests a week sometimes and at least a test a week except for a few weeks of the semester.

You will be cramming for each test instead of learning the material.

THe school says this is to get you in the habit of studying everyday, but what it really does is teach you how to cram really well and want to go out every day that is not just before a test.

I really liked the semesters that had few tests for each class much better. You could effectively study every day and truely learn the material.

As for the schedule for 1st semester - you have class in the morning and lab or recitation in the afternoon. maybe 2 afternoons a week are free. Attendence is manditory - have fun.😱
 
Just out of curiousity what is the earliest class, since will be commuting to and from school?
 
How much free time do you guys get...per week? I mean after studying and such.
 
Do you think that it is unrealistic to think that if you put in as much time as possible during the week and one weekend day, that you could have one day entirely off from studying? I'm especially curious about those with families. Dr. Feelgood, I think I've read that you have a little one...am I wrong. Well, if you wouldn't mind responding, that'd be great.😀 My husband is aware that he will be operating primarily as a single dad once school starts.
 
Do you think that it is unrealistic to think that if you put in as much time as possible during the week and one weekend day, that you could have one day entirely off from studying? I'm especially curious about those with families. Dr. Feelgood, I think I've read that you have a little one...am I wrong. Well, if you wouldn't mind responding, that'd be great.😀 My husband is aware that he will be operating primarily as a single dad once school starts.

If you study 7 days a week at any program you will for certain burn out. even if you think you can't you should take a day off. It is necessary for your mental sanity.
 
If you study 7 days a week at any program you will for certain burn out. even if you think you can't you should take a day off. It is necessary for your mental sanity.

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I usually took Sunday off and only study until noon on Saturday if it was necessary.
 
fall semester is always tricky for me because i'm torn between following my wolverines on saturday afternoon college football and quality sunday NFL games - so I would schedule my studying around michigan's schedule (and that includes clinic lol).

I think overall, as long as you treat school as a full-time job and do your work during your designated hours perse, then you can afford to take the much needed breaks - otherwise, you burn yourself out in less than 2 months.
 
Thanks all for the input. I'm glad to hear that most of you have been able to take off some time on the weekends. So, it sounds like I will still have time to yell at Grossman on the TV as he makes error after error on Sundays? My daughter has gymnastic meets Nov-March, so I guess I'll still be able to attend those😀 I can just try to study imbetween events. I'm hoping that she stays with it, so in 7 years or so I can have all of her team mates coming to me😉
 
Thanks all for the input. I'm glad to hear that most of you have been able to take off some time on the weekends. So, it sounds like I will still have time to yell at Grossman on the TV as he makes error after error on Sundays? My daughter has gymnastic meets Nov-March, so I guess I'll still be able to attend those😀 I can just try to study imbetween events. I'm hoping that she stays with it, so in 7 years or so I can have all of her team mates coming to me😉

I didn't respond under the pre-pod area, but I would advise anyone to start school and then evaulate whether or not to pick up a job or extra degree. All to often people come in with a certain idea (i.e. I can get 2 degrees no problem) and it costs them dearly.

I know this has happened at DMU and I would guess that it happens everywhere.
 
I didn't respond under the pre-pod area, but I would advise anyone to start school and then evaulate whether or not to pick up a job or extra degree. All to often people come in with a certain idea (i.e. I can get 2 degrees no problem) and it costs them dearly.

I know this has happened at DMU and I would guess that it happens everywhere.

I can't imagine working during school. Any available time that I will have will be spent with my family...or cleaning my house😀 And if I weren't married with kids, I'd love to go for the dual degree, but I'm much more realistic than to think that I could do it all to my best ability...and I really don't want to fail school or my family🙂

How hard is it to get the more competitive externships?

Thanks for being so patient with all of my questions!
 
I didn't respond under the pre-pod area, but I would advise anyone to start school and then evaulate whether or not to pick up a job or extra degree. All to often people come in with a certain idea (i.e. I can get 2 degrees no problem) and it costs them dearly.

I know this has happened at DMU and I would guess that it happens everywhere.

Yea, that is good advice. Everybody in my class had different abilities. While some people were able to handle a part-time job, it took other students everything they had just to keep up and pass.
 
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Yea, that is good advice. Everybody in my class had different abilities. While some people were able to handle a part-time job, it took other students everything they had just to keep up and pass.

I think that a lot of it depends on: study habits + prior knowledge
EG-Biology major vs an English major
EG-MCAT Exam vs DAT Exam

I believe some people are more prepared than others for POD school. For instance, if someone had taken their undergrad serious, learned the proper study habits, took many more science (medically related) classes, and had to relearn everything for the MCAT, they would be at a huge advantage over other students who failed to accomplish many of these prereqs.

I can remember in the beginning of the year speaking with a couple students who failed to prepare themselves for med school, in which they have never even heard of some certain basic concepts in Biology. These people struggled over others who had this knowledge already.

I don't mean to get myself on a wild tangent here, but I would like to add that I am extremely happy that all schools will have to require the MCAT.
 
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