How late is too late to submit?

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I just saw a thread on reddit.com/r/premed saying a September submission is fine. I'm not sure if he meant secondaries of primaries:

Hi everyone,
So I just got off the phone with New York Medical College. I wanted to see how my late submission would impact my chances. The woman who responded was a very sweet lady who told me that people often have misconceptions about rolling admissions, and that my chances will not be harmed significantly if I submit in September. They said they are very careful to ensure fairness.
That being said, it is true that those who submit early have a higher chance of getting in. The woman told me that this is merely because that group is self-selective. The better candidates are normally more proactive. The candidates who are most sure about medical school, who have often spent years preparing to go, who are more "on top of things" are more likely to apply early and submit better quality applications. She said they receive more higher quality applications towards the beginning of the application cycle, that's just how it is. She reiterated that these people are more likely to get in due to the quality of their applications, rather than the fact that they submitted early.
If you want further clarification, you might want to call NYMC. They're very nice about answering questions.
EDIT: BUSM just gave me a similar answer.

I am a little concerned since I can't submit until my premed committee OKs my personal statement, and they are being extremely slow in doing this. Anyone have concrete experience knowing when a late submission becomes detrimental?
 
I'm in the same boat. Trying to submit my primaries this weekend. Friggin so pissed at the delay that I'm considering waiting a year
 
I think submitting a primary app after the end of July is getting to be "late".
 
A rough deadline for primary apps to be verified is Labor day.
 
I was always told that you should submit in the "J" months. So if you submit in June or July you should be fine. This year is taking longer to verify, but if you pre-write your secondaries you should be able to submit the day you get them and still be fine. Schools allow people to submit primaries all the way into October-December. July is still fine.
 
Your goal should be a complete application by September (i.e. your primary, secondary, and LORs have been received).
 
How is it any weaker than the stuff that gets posyed here?

The upvote/downvote system causes Reddit to turn into a very biased source of information. In this case, a submission telling people that something bad is not bad makes people feel good about themselves and will get upvoted to the top. The likely 10 submissions telling the ugly truth makes the masses feel bad about themselves and they get downvoted into obscurity based on an emotional response.

With that said, upvotes to the left.
 
What it comes down to is nobody really knows and it could change every year based on numerous variables. But why take the chance? The key thing is that this process is rolling. I have no idea if a school considers September to be late or even July to be late. Just submit it ASAP!!
 
I heard from an adcom member that at the beginning of the cycle they interview 1 out of 8 applicants, while by the middle/end they're interviewing 1 out of 200. I find it hard to believe you can attribute this all to "higher quality apps are submitted early".

Just think of it logically. They interview a relativity consistent number of applicants from August through the end of their cycle. You're essentially competing with an exponentially growing number of applications as the year progresses. There are a ton of statistics (some even my undergrad gave us of their student's successes relative to app timing) as well as anecdote after anecdote of students who applied late, didnt get in, then applied early, and got into 100 schools.

And a point that was raised earlier, why take the chance? Why did it take you an extra 3 months to get everything together? If there are circumstances out of your control, then of course you just have to not worry about it, but usually its just due to laziness.
 
I emailed a DO school regarding submitting in Sept (I wont have retake MCAT til mid-Sept) and she said it is fine, that they encourage applicants to be complete (verified, secondary, LOR) by Thanksgiving. Im super bummed I cant get mine in earlier tho.
 
I submitted my primary in September and secondaries throughout October and did fine. n=1, but just saying, it's not completely hopeless for late applicants. It is definitely riskier though, and should be avoided if possible. (my committee interview was in September, so I couldn't avoid it)
 
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