how many got in with 2.8 GPA and DAT 19

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Hi I was just wondering how many people have got into dental school with a 2.80 GPA in Science and a 19 average in DAT? The reason I am asking is that I am in the same boat and wanted to know what percentage got in, for me to have a chance.

I know that there are other things that are consider too.

help 😎

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Hi I was just wondering how many people have got into dental school with a 2.80 GPA in Science and a 19 average in DAT? The reason I am asking is that I am in the same boat and wanted to know what percentage got in, for me to have a chance.

I know that there are other things that are consider too.

help 😎

I dont want to be a jerk, but you chances here are virtually zero. You should do a post-bach or masters and get that GPA up.
 
Hi I was just wondering how many people have got into dental school with a 2.80 GPA in Science and a 19 average in DAT? The reason I am asking is that I am in the same boat and wanted to know what percentage got in, for me to have a chance.

I know that there are other things that are consider too.

help 😎

have you heard of predents?
 
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Hi I was just wondering how many people have got into dental school with a 2.80 GPA in Science and a 19 average in DAT? The reason I am asking is that I am in the same boat and wanted to know what percentage got in, for me to have a chance.

I know that there are other things that are consider too.

help 😎

Go here to view applicants for each school:
http://predents.com/

Use this search function to find students with similar stats as yours:
http://predents.com/?page=search&PHPSESSID=eb67362b3be9016d089907862130919c
 
yeah i dont want to sound mean or anything (i have below avg gpa too) but 2.8 and DAT 19 will probably have near 0 chance of getting in. I have a friend who got 24 TS with 2.9 GPA this year and he has 1 interview out of 12 schools he applied (and that's with 24 DAT, whcih is like 98 percentile).

i recommend you studying adn retaking DAT to AA over 22 (to compensate for your gpa) and also take more courese to raise your gpa to at least 3.0


good luck
 
Maybe u can do post-bac or get into master program to uplift ur gpa. Good luck on everything!
 
Hi I was just wondering how many people have got into dental school with a 2.80 GPA in Science and a 19 average in DAT? The reason I am asking is that I am in the same boat and wanted to know what percentage got in, for me to have a chance.

I know that there are other things that are consider too.

help 😎

I would do a post-bac and retake the DAT.
 
Hi I was just wondering how many people have got into dental school with a 2.80 GPA in Science and a 19 average in DAT? The reason I am asking is that I am in the same boat and wanted to know what percentage got in, for me to have a chance.

I know that there are other things that are consider too.

help 😎

Are you an URM?
 
zero chance?? there are 7 schools that interviewed me... do I not have a shot because of my 2.88 sGPA? It's not all about the numbers, and for those of you who think its because I'm hispanic, my friend has 5 interviews with a 2.98 and is asian (chober... look em up). Of course every single 4.0 22+ student is going to tell you it's not possible, that's all I would hear before applying and it made me feel like crap. I almost didn't apply but did it anyway, and man am I glad I didn't listen to those guys. I'm not saying it's going to be easy to get in, but it's definitely not impossible. Good luck and make sure you apply really really really early!

Oh and since you have time why not retake the DAT?? could make a huge difference...
 
Preach on! 2.98, after academic update, 3.06. Have four invites, three in TOP TOP schools: ASDOH, Columbia, and UWSoD. Keep the hope alive!!!
 
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you can listen to all these ppl say "dont worry about it" but you wont have much of a chance unless you don't make something else on your app stand out. i was in this position 2 years ago my junior year and these replies to my posts made me panic and realize that i had a lot of slack to pick up... so hopefully you realize that too. the guys on this thread that said they got in with <3 gpas, its because they had thousands of hours of experience, president of clubs, etcetc. with just far sub-par stats, they wouldn't have had a chance.

gluck!
 
I do believe that being a minority definitely helps your application. Of course, it does not make or break your application, but you can't say that it has nothing to do with getting an interivew with really low stats. It's not to take away from your hard work and application as a whole, but its the truth.

If you are a not a minority and have sub-par stats... then, like the previous poster said, you need to do something else to make yourself stand out. Including, writing a killer personal statement... that hopefully explains your weak points. I have a sub-par GPA as well... so I know how you feel. But you can't let anyone tell you you can't do it!

Don't think its not worth giving it a shot because everyone tells you not to. If its what you want, do what you can til the next cycle and apply (but make sure you also apply for back-up plans just incase).

GOOD LUCK!!
 
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please dont listen to all of the hate from those ppl...my friend had a 2.7 overall and a 2.9 science; also a 19 DAT and got 4 interviews NYU Columbia UT and UMKC...He had great knowledge of the profession with dental assitanting and shadowing its not alwayz about the numbers its about how much you want to get in too....they dont let SMART DUMB PPL IN ALL THE TIME!!!!!:laugh:
 
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zero chance?? there are 7 schools that interviewed me... do I not have a shot because of my 2.88 sGPA? It's not all about the numbers, and for those of you who think its because I'm hispanic, my friend has 5 interviews with a 2.98 and is asian (chober... look em up). Of course every single 4.0 22+ student is going to tell you it's not possible, that's all I would hear before applying and it made me feel like crap. I almost didn't apply but did it anyway, and man am I glad I didn't listen to those guys. I'm not saying it's going to be easy to get in, but it's definitely not impossible. Good luck and make sure you apply really really really early!

Oh and since you have time why not retake the DAT?? could make a huge difference...

wow im impressed by ur interview list, i have a 3.7+ scigpa/gpa, 18AA, tons of community service/ECCs, early and havent heard yet from a bunch of those schools u got an interview with
 
you can listen to all these ppl say "dont worry about it" but you wont have much of a chance unless you don't make something else on your app stand out. i was in this position 2 years ago my junior year and these replies to my posts made me panic and realize that i had a lot of slack to pick up... so hopefully you realize that too. the guys on this thread that said they got in with <3 gpas, its because they had thousands of hours of experience, president of clubs, etcetc. with just far sub-par stats, they wouldn't have had a chance.

gluck!


I think this sums it up pretty well. I think that the best way to gauge your chances is to use the ADEA book (or dr toothache's amazingly informative threads). If your grades are within 0.1 gpa and 1 AA deviation, it stands to reason that your chances should be pretty good (assuming you did the standard ECs and did not say in PS that you are in this for the moola).

Of course if you have done uncommon stuff like serving oversea missions or saving a cat and an old woman from a burning building, lower stats might also get you in. But otherwise it is probably mostly a numbers game.
 
I agree with the above posters as well. My words were of comfort, but by no means slack off. I've had my fair share of people telling me I couldn't do this or that. What got me to this point was I kept on truckin' and had to find "unconventional" strengths as an applicant (i.e. test scores, personal statement, LOR's, extra-curricular activities, etc). Grades do matter, but remember, adcom's do look at you holistically and realize there are other things than numbers.

Good Luck and Keep the Dream Alive,

-student253
 
zero chance?? there are 7 schools that interviewed me... do I not have a shot because of my 2.88 sGPA? It's not all about the numbers, and for those of you who think its because I'm hispanic, my friend has 5 interviews with a 2.98 and is asian (chober... look em up).
Oh and since you have time why not retake the DAT?? could make a huge difference...

Your friend has a low GPA but a high DAT score to compensate for it...and he applied early in the cycle.

My GPA is good but I'm worried about my avg DAT scores...still haven't heard anything from dental schools except my state school. I'm not sure how schools weigh GPA vs. DAT but from what I hear it seems that DAT is on top. Doesn't make me feel any better. 🙁
 
Majority of the people who posted above have no idea what they are talking about.....they look at a number and think it is the same for everyone.

The OP NEVER stated what school he/she was coming from, what was the major, how many and what level of science courses make up that science gpa.
 
wow im impressed by ur interview list, i have a 3.7+ scigpa/gpa, 18AA, tons of community service/ECCs, early and havent heard yet from a bunch of those schools u got an interview with

futuredentist09 has 3500 hours of dental assisting and 500 hours of shadowing... s/he is practically a dentist already.
 
1 million +/- 500 (depends if its a leap year or not 😎)
 
why the 2.8? Did you find the courses hard or did you slack off? Please don't be offended...I just want to know since you are fine with sharing your GPA. 🙂
 
I think your best bet is to apply to a Biomedical Science/SMP master's program. There are several of them throughout the US such as Barry U., Georgetown U., Loyola U, etc. These master's programs are designed to get people with subpar grades or DAT/MCAT scores into dental/medical schools! They have about a 95% success rate for their students! I am attending Barry University's Biomedical Master's program right now and got my first interview the other day! Good Luck!

For some information on the program see the link below:

http://www.barry.edu/bms/default.asp
 
futuredentist09 has 3500 hours of dental assisting and 500 hours of shadowing... s/he is practically a dentist already.

was it 3500 volunteered dental assisting? or paid?
 
some ppl have like 3.3 and 21 DATs and don't have interviews man
 
I think your best bet is to apply to a Biomedical Science/SMP master's program. There are several of them throughout the US such as Barry U., Georgetown U., Loyola U, etc. These master's programs are designed to get people with subpar grades or DAT/MCAT scores into dental/medical schools! They have about a 95% success rate for their students! I am attending Barry University's Biomedical Master's program right now and got my first interview the other day! Good Luck!

For some information on the program see the link below:

http://www.barry.edu/bms/default.asp

95% success rate eh?
how hard is it to get into this?
 
In my program at Barry University, if you want to complete the program in one year you have to have at least an 18 academic average on your DAT and at least a 3.0 undergraduate GPA. To get into the two year program, you have to have at least a 2.75 and a DAT AA of 17 (I think). The program is designed to mock the first year of dental school. We take courses such as histology, gross anatomy (w/ cadaver lab), biochem I and II, pharmacology, neurobiology, a dental course, and several others. Barry University is 20 min. from Nova Southeastern's dental school and one of the deans teaches my dental class. He brought the dean of admissions in to talk to our class and he said that if you get through the master's program with at least a 3.0, there is a GOOD chance that you will get in. Nova has had good success with students from the program and are now almost guaranteeing acceptance if the GPA requirement is met. I think doing one of these programs is a great idea for the creator of this post.
 
zero chance?? there are 7 schools that interviewed me... do I not have a shot because of my 2.88 sGPA? It's not all about the numbers, and for those of you who think its because I'm hispanic, my friend has 5 interviews with a 2.98 and is asian (chober... look em up). Of course every single 4.0 22+ student is going to tell you it's not possible, that's all I would hear before applying and it made me feel like crap. I almost didn't apply but did it anyway, and man am I glad I didn't listen to those guys. I'm not saying it's going to be easy to get in, but it's definitely not impossible. Good luck and make sure you apply really really really early!

Oh and since you have time why not retake the DAT?? could make a huge difference...

I totally agree about how every 4.0 student here is going to say that. When I interviewed at BU earlier this month - all the upper years said to 'stay away from SDN it gives you an unrealistic representation' - which is true. Of course SDN has helped me out so much but it also has all the keeners on here who talk about 'oh which should I pick Columbia or Upenn? I can't decide!!' - don't stress - try to do DAT again if you can and take more classes - but your chances are NOT zero - it's about the whole application not just the GPA and DAT
 
I totally agree about how every 4.0 student here is going to say that. When I interviewed at BU earlier this month - all the upper years said to 'stay away from SDN it gives you an unrealistic representation' - which is true. Of course SDN has helped me out so much but it also has all the keeners on here who talk about 'oh which should I pick Columbia or Upenn? I can't decide!!' - don't stress - try to do DAT again if you can and take more classes - but your chances are NOT zero - it's about the whole application not just the GPA and DAT

This is pretty obvious. *almost* everyone here has inflated their gpa and/or DAT score.

I mean I have a 4.3, and I'm not bragging about it. 😎
 
This is pretty obvious. *almost* everyone here has inflated their gpa and/or DAT score.

I mean I have a 4.3, and I'm not bragging about it. 😎

But it's not obvious to a new person who is just checking the website out - even I myself would start thinking a 19AA is 'just average' when really if it's 77th percentile - that's not average.
 
This is pretty obvious. *almost* everyone here has inflated their gpa and/or DAT score.

I mean I have a 4.3, and I'm not bragging about it. 😎

lol ive been around for a while and i wasnt even aware of grade inflation O_O.
 
What makes you think ppl actually inflate their stats? What's the point of doing that?

This is pretty obvious. *almost* everyone here has inflated their gpa and/or DAT score.
 
This is pretty obvious. *almost* everyone here has inflated their gpa and/or DAT score.

I mean I have a 4.3, and I'm not bragging about it. 😎

that makes me feel good, because i picked the lower of the two reported gpas on my aadsas and have not lied about any of my DAT scores. so relative to everyone else.. i am actually a stronger applicant than i already think? sweeeeeeet

thanks.
 
was it 3500 volunteered dental assisting? or paid?

it's on my predents...
3500 was paid dental assisting, I needed to to pay for college...
the 300+ hours shadowing and the other community service was not paid...
also I did a dental related trip to a foreign country... that actually cost me 500 bucks...
 
why the 2.8? Did you find the courses hard or did you slack off? Please don't be offended...I just want to know since you are fine with sharing your GPA. 🙂

If you are asking me... I had to work full-time and go to school full-time...
 
that makes me feel good, because i picked the lower of the two reported gpas on my aadsas and have not lied about any of my DAT scores. so relative to everyone else.. i am actually a stronger applicant than i already think? sweeeeeeet

thanks.
YOU dont have to worry about a thing! top dat & top gpa- you are the strongest applicant ive seen so far. Did you interview at uop yet?
 
it's on my predents...
3500 was paid dental assisting, I needed to to pay for college...
the 300+ hours shadowing and the other community service was not paid...
also I did a dental related trip to a foreign country... that actually cost me 500 bucks...

i understand why you are appealing to dental schools.. but why chober? I don't get it..
 
I don't see how you get low stats and then hope and pray, beg and try to pull strings to get you in somewhere. working, being "disadvantaged", and being a minority are NOT excuses for poor performance in college. i am only critical because I am a hispanic, first generation college student who comes from a very poor family actually. I received zero money from my parents to help pay for college. i worked 40 hrs a week between two jobs the last three yrs and also took 15+ hrs/semester. quite frankly i worked my a** off and i ended up applying this year with a 3.93 cGPA and a 21 AA dat. it wasn't easy and i didn't go to some private high school, nor am I the smartest person in the world. i simply know how to work and had a desire to better myself. I would suggest to any of you with low stats to consider another career. professional careers aren't for everyone and I know that I certainly would not want to take my family or my children to a dentist who BARELY got in to dental school and who might presumably BARELY graduate d-school. you should have been more dedicated because there is no such thing as an excuse in my opinion.
 
i am only critical because I am a hispanic, first generation college student who comes from a very poor family actually. I received zero money from my parents to help pay for college.

Uh, shouldn't you have gotten some sort of financial aid for college?

(this is assuming you are a citizen)
 
DROCKINDAHOUSE your joking right? it seems like you didn't/don't have a life other than working and studying. if that is so then your not a well rounded person b/c you don't have time for anything else. your right that its not an excuse but there are other things that make up a person.

O and by the way I'm guessing you don't have any experience within the field b/c you have been really busy working and studying the entire time right?

you just need to chill out and not kill anyones dream

-best of luck to all of you and keep working hard and you will get in.
 
But it's not obvious to a new person who is just checking the website out - even I myself would start thinking a 19AA is 'just average' when really if it's 77th percentile - that's not average.

19 AA is 'just average'. Average for Matriculants. 77th percentile for all people taking the test, not for the people that actually get in.

Average for Applicants is much lower, around 17 AA. But who cares, it's who matriculates that counts.
 
Majority of the people who posted above have no idea what they are talking about.....they look at a number and think it is the same for everyone.

The OP NEVER stated what school he/she was coming from, what was the major, how many and what level of science courses make up that science gpa.

None of that matters. No matter how hard your school was, you cannot justify getting below a 3.0 and use school difficulty as an excuse. No matter how hard your major was, you cannot justify getting below a 3.0 and using a difficult major as an excuse. No matter how many upper level science classes you took, you cannot justify getting below a 3.0 science GPA and use difficult upper level science courses as an excuse.

OP, the fact of the matter is, you have a 2.8 GPA, and you can't change that. What you can and should do, however, is get a Masters in Biology. With a 4.0 Masters and 19 AA you might be able to get in, though a DAT retake of 20+ coupled with the 4.0 Masters would suddenly make you into a strong candidate. Good luck.
 
I totally agree about how every 4.0 student here is going to say that. When I interviewed at BU earlier this month - all the upper years said to 'stay away from SDN it gives you an unrealistic representation' - which is true. Of course SDN has helped me out so much but it also has all the keeners on here who talk about 'oh which should I pick Columbia or Upenn? I can't decide!!' - don't stress - try to do DAT again if you can and take more classes - but your chances are NOT zero - it's about the whole application not just the GPA and DAT

This is so absurrd its funny. Look at predents. There are no applicants that have a GPA below 2.9 and a DAT 20 or below that have gotten an interview. As a fact, there are many more applicants than spots and even the "lower tier schools" can be picky and take applicants with better grades. Unfortuantely a 2.8 GPA is probably in the 30%ile of applicants and probably in the 5%ile of acceptances. Now when you couple that with a 19 AA which is not great either I dont see much hope. Call me a jerk or whaever you want but I am being realistic. The scores have gotten much better in the past couple of years and there are tice as many applicants as 2-3 years ago. The competition is more fierce and you need above average stats to get in.
 
I don't see how you get low stats and then hope and pray, beg and try to pull strings to get you in somewhere. working, being "disadvantaged", and being a minority are NOT excuses for poor performance in college. i am only critical because I am a hispanic, first generation college student who comes from a very poor family actually. I received zero money from my parents to help pay for college. i worked 40 hrs a week between two jobs the last three yrs and also took 15+ hrs/semester. quite frankly i worked my a** off and i ended up applying this year with a 3.93 cGPA and a 21 AA dat. it wasn't easy and i didn't go to some private high school, nor am I the smartest person in the world. i simply know how to work and had a desire to better myself. I would suggest to any of you with low stats to consider another career. professional careers aren't for everyone and I know that I certainly would not want to take my family or my children to a dentist who BARELY got in to dental school and who might presumably BARELY graduate d-school. you should have been more dedicated because there is no such thing as an excuse in my opinion.

I think you are ******ed. No one is feeling sorry for any minority. There should be no such thing. So low stats should consider another career? Listen, stats may not necessarily mean you are going to be a good dentist. Undergrad GPA will differ from your Dental school GPA. You can be higher, lower. Please re-up this post if you're getting 3.93 in dental school and make me shut up. Don't tell people to consider another career, your attitude is garbage. Don't give them false hope either. What you should do is go spread the word to all the other hispanic/latinos not in school to go to school, so they can not be considered "minorities", instead of doing whatever else they are doing. Whatever it is, its not school. Maybe the person with the lower GPA and stats has a different motivation, to serve the underrepresented minorities. You used to be poor, how do I know your motivation isn't to be rich and you are choosing this career for those reasons? We don't need any more of those thx.
 
This is pretty obvious. *almost* everyone here has inflated their gpa and/or DAT score.

I mean I have a 4.3, and I'm not bragging about it. 😎

There is a little grade inflation, but as a whole I highly doubt that people inflate their GPA's. The DAT scores are usually the ones that are faked. In case you are accusing me I will prove to you that I didnt inflate anything.
 

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^^Uh, why do you care so much if ppl are accusing you of inflating scores? If you're not good for you, if you are good for you (again). The whole comparing scores thing just gets out of hand here sometimes. To the OP, unless that 2.8 is the most drastic upward trend ever seen (but it would probably be at least a 3.1 if that was the case) you are probably looking at some post-bac work to make your application stronger. Be sure to apply very early when you are ready to apply. To everyone else, having a 3.9 is admirable but it does not make you the de facto authority on dschool admission seeing as none of you are in a position to make any decisions.
 
There is a little grade inflation, but as a whole I highly doubt that people inflate their GPA's. The DAT scores are usually the ones that are faked. In case you are accusing me I will prove to you that I didnt inflate anything.

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