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Lynch AM

🙄Bryndi (5) - Karabeans, meats, snowy, Lupes, coffee
Theres gotta be some Red in here somewhere, if not bryndi herself. Zigs flip makes me look a little less at kara.
Lets find out more about them then, shall we? I havent been on the bryndi sketch train at all so
Lynch Coffee
Care to join me for a third day in a row, Ski?
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Are you post restricted or just having fun?🙄
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Are you post restricted or just having fun?
this isn't meant mean, please don't take this as meanat this point in time, in my beady little brain:
AM and Lupin are tied for the role of Chaos--mostly for how they seem to just be stirring the pot.
Everybody else I have as "I have no freaking clue" will have to think and go back and look at a couple of things.
Yeah you should know it's typical of my wolf gameplay too. Quiet dubz is not wolf dubz, it's busy dubz. For shame.Lynch dubz
don't like her non-response response about my questioning of her capri vote and her overall lack of solid contributions to thread when that is something I think is more typical of her gameplay imo
I remember wolfing with her, and she really was that busy and it wasn't faked.I feel like Kara is maybe wolfy. she's pretty good at hiding behind being busy as a wolf and then sometimes coming around to give the guise of wolf hunting. I have wolfed with her before and am also her wolf pup.
I am also around 10 pages behind. sorry for not coming back last night like I said I would. catching up now.
For now
Contingency Lynch Kara
I need to do some re-reads, but I had another reason I thought she was wolfy and I'd like to hear more from @Karabiner13
Bryndi (5) - Karabeans, meats, snowy, Lupes, coffee
Theres gotta be some Red in here somewhere, if not bryndi herself. Zigs flip makes me look a little less at kara.
Lets find out more about them then, shall we? I havent been on the bryndi sketch train at all so
Lynch Coffee
Care to join me for a third day in a row, Ski?
Real life excuses are NAI, I completely agree there.
You're reducing my argument to "Kara is a wolf because she's lurking." which is not the case. As I said to VMH, your lurking could be seen as one of two things and I acknowledge that you might truly be busy. That however is not the main reason I've been on your lynch. Your voting bryndy D1 over the worst reason, and then badgering her into talking enough to look sketchy and attract votes feels exactly like what you did to me in CO to get me lynched.
often you do see powerwolves doing that, the puppetmaster or conductor thing, because they know more and their only real role in the game is informed manipulation, and that's how it feels. However, power villagers like Kara, Mel, AM, even Dubz to some extent 😛 will lead interrogations and reaction tests. Even more confusing is that sometimes a village PR can make people come off more in the know and leading. The hardest part of this game for me has been identifying when lynch leading is village or wolf.crayola, thank you for the information. I guess I have viewed those in the chaos role more like puppetmasters, or conductors. Subtly, or not so subtly in some cases, leading the masses to the lynches they choose...that is kinda how I see AM and Lupin (and Mel to a certain extent) playing. here's an idea...now, withdraw. do you think that is a good idea? then withdraw. A dance, of sorts. Leading, watching.
of course, a lens should be used--is this wolfy? is this village? is this how I have seen others as 3rd parties?
My idea is to watch carefully, closely. While not necessarily a prime target in the first days, should not drop off of radar.
so are you doing this so I'll clear you or do you believe there is a wolf between koffee and bryndy?
I believe there is a wolf somewhere in that voting block, and by voting for one of them if they do happen to flip wolf, I would think that would make you feel better about me being not afraid to go after them. So what are your up to date thoughts on the two?
OK, when I wrote the post above, somehow I missed like 3 pages of posts including the one where Ziggy died.
Anyway, I see that Mel has called out other players and even switched his vote.
More importantly, he hits the nail on the head here with Kara.
Here's the thing. Last game where I thought he was a wolf, initially he made a point on SOV, I believe, that was complex and had merit. Most of Mel's proposed theories do that. But there is a tone where I feel like he is either reading more into something than is there, vs hitting the nail on the head. OK, that's not fair, I've seen him spin tinfoil, tunnel, stretch, and be wrong. So I should say is it an intentional stretch to cast more shade than is there, or is he just calling it like it is or like he thinks it is. This just has a certain accuracy, that really the issue here is that I believe what Mel is saying to be true to the point that it's not a matter of his affiliation. I said earlier that Kara's early D1 interactions and questions felt like village Kara. However, and I know I said this to Lupin, I did not like the BJ lynch justifications that came up on thread that day. That's not even a question of my lean on BJ, she's sketched me out in her own right. But I said I felt like people were using BS to jump on her and there was nothing inconsistent with her hate of the math talk yet putting her feet in it. Not simple, but human.
My memory is so bad that I can identify what took place without remembering who said what or even what was said. But yeah
why did you have to delete this?Oh wow ok
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@Animal Midwife current reads?
Its true. I didn't really.mel didn't switch his vote
👍The Karabou Reads:
1. koffee - wolf lean?
- wolf between bryndy and koffee?
- side tracked by math D1
- defends zigzag early (first in response to shelter then ski)
- not seeing a lot of reads
2. mutts - wolf lean
- distrusts rezKL (typically rezzes are more village though)
- cray vote for not following her logic? join the club
- votes for me because felt better about moose, yet moose was in wolf reads and I was in need more info
- breaks tie so don't lost 2 villagers?
- thoughts on me now?
3. snowy - village lean
- so far seems typical hedgy snowy who is neutral on me but reading situation differently than others (I think holds the karabou reading card?)
5. skim: village lean
- agreeing with a lot
6. sar - neutral
- spreadsheet mention
- side tracked by gif discussion
- more posts
7. ski - neutral to wolf lean
- sidetracked by roster swap
- off topic posts
- minimal reads
8. dubz - cautious village lean to neutral
- need more posts
- tentative village dubz? We're agreeing in the few posts we've made?
9. am: village lean
- tie with zizag that sat D1
- gut feels
10. mel - wolf
- deja vu
- feels like wolf!mel from meat where he didn't like my logic and we were bickering, feel like we don't have as many heated exchanges when we are the same affiliation
- last time was bryndy was a wolf who I caught and he tried to discredit it (Meat)
11. dina - neutral
- more posts
12. cray - neutral to village lean?
- been glazing over her posts but seems mostly cray
- typical suspicion for me?
14. lupes - cautious village lean
- agreeing with a lot
15. cubs - wolf lean?
- if there's a wolf in bryndy or koffee possibly broke a tie away from them
16. genny - neutral
- care free as usual
- bats off stagg for wolf reads and reasons
17. vmh - wolf lean to neutral
- lynches BJ D1 for a non-existent KL vote and then switches to the reasoning but then those disappear. Current read on bryndy?
- switches to moose D2
18. msu - neutral
- 3 posts, need more
19. mj - neutral
- not enough
20. stagg - neutral to wolf
- sporty vote 30 min to deadline D1
- tried to tie me and moose
- tight lipped on what info moose or karabou flip would give
- top wolf reads?
- reluctant to share info
- either V/V or W/V with am
22. gwen - neutral
- not enough
23. KL - was night cancel now rezzed; village lean
- seems genuine in pm
24. capri - neutral
- need more; mostly short posts with few reads
26. BJ - wolf lean?
- wolf between bryndy and coffee?
- came on close to close to tie it up D1
- survived but no mention of her being involved in the tie in write-up (could just be how mods wrote it or could have escaped another way)
- those that voted and didn't like her popping in disappeared
27. weim - village lean?
- seems ok in pm despite lynching me
- on bryndy D2 when weim mentions not liking bj's end of lynch play unlike most that said that and voted elsewhere
28. karabou: village
- fear free posting, don't care what others think
- needs more posts when can
We need a meme for when AM basically throw up her gangsta signs as she tell us all to get jacked.No, because they weren't on my wolf leans anyway. If I reevaluate over village or neutral leans flipping village, I'm not playing right.
Its true. I didn't really.
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I'm not LIS, you don't get village points for spewing a bunch of reads on thread under pressure. I'm pretty sure I've told newbie wolves to do exactly this when getting heat to get people off of them.
Nice try though.
So which is it? Am I wolf pushing you like you implied in your "reads" or am I a villager with blinders on?![]()
great, thanks but you need to get your blinders off
#notawolf
So which is it? Am I wolf pushing you like you implied in your "reads" or am I a villager with blinders on?
We need a meme for when AM basically throw up her gangsta signs as she tell us all to get jacked.
I went looking for one, and this isn't it, but it still made me laugh. I mean, we are all animal loving WW addicts.
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Could go either way I think
I know you didn't ask me, but I think village.
If it was a wolf PR then think about it. The wolves would consistently have one extra vote everyday and thats really powerful.
I would guess village. People don't usually like to lynch silenced people who can't defend themselves, so it's not a super helpful ability for the wolves.
night kill analysis is always WIFOM
Neutral now.@muttmanager what is your read on me?
What part of that was deleted?why did you have to delete this?
I don't think she'd telegraph her ability like that. Sick/busy/distracted or whatever, dubz plays better than that.Do you think WZ had anything to do with it? She was the only other person on the Capri lynch with MJ.
Neutral now.
oh yeah also I gave him credit for switching his vote... to Paws, the NPC, lmao. The rest of it stands, he's gone on to question other players. But yeah, my VCA skills are top notch.OK, when I wrote the post above, somehow I missed like 3 pages of posts including the one where Ziggy died.
Anyway, I see that Mel has called out other players and even switched his vote.
More importantly, he hits the nail on the head here with Kara.
Here's the thing. Last game where I thought he was a wolf, initially he made a point on SOV, I believe, that was complex and had merit. Most of Mel's proposed theories do that. But there is a tone where I feel like he is either reading more into something than is there, vs hitting the nail on the head. OK, that's not fair, I've seen him spin tinfoil, tunnel, stretch, and be wrong. So I should say is it an intentional stretch to cast more shade than is there, or is he just calling it like it is or like he thinks it is. This just has a certain accuracy, that really the issue here is that I believe what Mel is saying to be true to the point that it's not a matter of his affiliation. I said earlier that Kara's early D1 interactions and questions felt like village Kara. However, and I know I said this to Lupin, I did not like the BJ lynch justifications that came up on thread that day. That's not even a question of my lean on BJ, she's sketched me out in her own right. But I said I felt like people were using BS to jump on her and there was nothing inconsistent with her hate of the math talk yet putting her feet in it. Not simple, but human.
My memory is so bad that I can identify what took place without remembering who said what or even what was said. But yeah
I haven't caught up on thread, but want to clarify that my concern wasn't that you are quiet (figured you were busy, we all are), but rather that the posts you have made haven't had a ton of wolf hunting effort in them, which is something I generally expect to see more of from you regardless of how often you are postingLegit have been busy/sick and still have not had a chance to catch up (just had a few moments to read the last page or so but haven't read back). The low activity votes are real sweet though guys 😉
Yeah you should know it's typical of my wolf gameplay too. Quiet dubz is not wolf dubz, it's busy dubz. For shame.
Anyway my answer was not a non-answer. My D1 vote was a feel, don't really know what other kind of explanation you wanted. I kept it the next day because I was interested to see if it went anywhere, and then obviously haven't gotten a chance to reevaluate.
Oh I wasnt trying to fish, my bad.I don't think she'd telegraph her ability like that. Sick/busy/distracted or whatever, dubz plays better than that.
Thats all I'm going to say, I don't like where this conversation is going or the fact that you're bringing it up.
Let me catch up and give you better thoughts shortly. I will say that as of my last post this morning I had her in my "Needs banamine" category (aka slight wolf lean)@muttmanager what is your read on me?
@WildZoo where'd you go?
@Animal Midwife current reads?
@vetmedhead current read on bryndy?
@Stagg737 top wolf reads and reasons seeing as you're asking others?
Hard to wolf hunt when I haven't really been reading since D2 started dude.I haven't caught up on thread, but want to clarify that my concern wasn't that you are quiet (figured you were busy, we all are), but rather that the posts you have made haven't had a ton of wolf hunting effort in them, which is something I generally expect to see more of from you regardless of how often you are posting
Ignoring the part I already discussed (the aggressive defending of ziggy), the bolded reads a lot like suspicion manufacturing to me. I think any reasonable person would have considered her survival a likely part of a tie mechanic and this felt too much like trying to read into it too much for my tasteinteresting considering your thoughts on me included I talked a lot about math (yes, I like math), don't like the ziggy lynch (don't see how this is a problem.. do you WANT ziggy lynched?), and I wasn't self-prezing (which was true until I was in the lead, and then I did self-prez, so again, not sure your issue here)
Do you have any updated thoughts on anyone? I see you've mentioned myself, moose, and killer (flipped village) all as sketchy, bryndi as not sketchy, and kara in response to someone else as asking a lot of questions but not saying much else.
Specifically
-what do you think of Moose being up for lynch today?
-what do you think of bryndi's move last night, and how she is not dead?
-how do you feel about my points towards Cray + followup: would you say there is potentially a wolf between kara and cray?
Also feels like manufacturing suspicion, especially given that covfefe has also made several posts about how we shouldn't lynch quiet playersI FORGOT ABOUT SOMETHING
Forgot about the game but liked a post shortly after game started??
edit: I see she admitted to this later. Still keeping this in mind.
The bolded, again, reads as manufacturing suspicion, especially since it was D2 and kind of a reach to expect any line of questioning to have come to the fruition point of producing wolves yet (we all know we don't get answers in WW, as mods need player confusion to live)I am feeling better about Cray. Still not sure on Kara who has not been on all day so it's still D1 information on her.
I don't like where Ski was trying to go which seemed to be no where. She had her vote on me, claimed to be continuing thoughts on me from yesterday, but rejected every thought that I echo'd from her yesterday as her not saying it's sketch but it's just notes. So @SkiOtter if everything you said about me and everyone else yesterday WASN'T sketch, then what is?
ZJ - Lynch close write up made us aware we weren't supposed to be PMing anymore. Oops. Well, what's done is done but someone has been very actively trying to be agreeable and complimentary in PM today but not saying much on thread. Since we aren't any longer PM partners I feel that's worth sharing 😉
AM - this is day 2 of voting for somebody not posting on the thread for nearly the entire day. It concerns me. Her questions keep coming but yes, she can ask questions as a wolf just as easily. The concern is when they aren't producing wolves or answers.
I just got on the train home and I’m just looking at posts I was tagged right now. I’m on page 17... so... if someone wants to give me the TLDR, I’d really appreciate it. I pm’d dolphin this morning asking if she would possibly help me out with that, but I don’t see that she replied yet.I wanna know what @Skimble thinks today. capri and stagg are both on my suspect list still, so interested to see where she has landed after the last couple days.
I think dolphin died last night so you may want to try whoever your other PM partner isI just got on the train home and I’m just looking at posts I was tagged right now. I’m on page 17... so... if someone wants to give me the TLDR, I’d really appreciate it. I pm’d dolphin this morning asking if she would possibly help me out with that, but I don’t see that she replied yet.
Well, I guess that would explain the lack of response. Is @SARdoghandler still alive? I think she is my other pm partner, and whomever was above dolphin.I think dolphin died last night so you may want to try whoever your other PM partner is
SAR should still be alive, don't remember who was above youWell, I guess that would explain the lack of response. Is @SARdoghandler still alive? I think she is my other pm partner, and whomever was above dolphin.