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WildZoo said:
But do you think she's a wolf?

Why does leaving her alive today mean that she will be a question for the rest of the game?
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Possible.

Because I will always be wondering about her being a wolf/chaos. Because it doesn't make sense to me what happened last night. Because that situation is sketch. Because the people who are telling me to trust her are you and mel. Because no one will tell us what is going on that would make it less sketch.
 
bryndiana.jones said:
And what about if Kara flips village? Who will you look at then? What do you think about the info on AM?






I think you're tunneling on KB at this point, and the fact that you are so unwilling to vote for AM makes you top of my list if she flips wolf.



This made me lol



How do you feel about his defense of AM?



No, if you want out of this you have some explaining to do on thread mamacita



That's nice, but I still have an issue with the write up saying Ski was attacked, and then another individual came to her stall with what seems to be malintent so if you want any chance of you living today you had best spell it out for us.


I mentally cannot work out a way that AM had good intentions last night (I have one theory but I am uncertain about it given the write-up and the likelihood that it would even happen). If she flips wolf mel will be my next vote and wz shoots up to one of my top village peeps. If she flips village then stagg would likely be where I would vote given their little interactions.



I have been trying to work out how this wouldn't incriminate AM, and I have one possible thought but I will not share it unless AM shares her story first.


What does this even mean?


lynch AM

Edit: Ninja'd by AM claiming vote steal
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So why are you lynching me exactly? It sounds like you're building up to something then you comment about the vote steal instead.
 
muttmanager said:
Fair reasoning for day 1. My issues are around the reasoning - why are you choosing those people? You think I'm sketchy why not take my vote and use it where you like. As I said I don't understand the mechanics of it, stay vague - I'm not fishing.

I can see a scenario where you may not have been the one to kill ski last night but that doesn't mean you're not a wolf.
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Do you want me to take your vote? I'm attempting to use it the least obstructive and most info gaining way possible. I assumed we could just talk.

What is said scenario?
 
SnowshoeDog143 said:
lynch AM

Something is sketch. A redirector item that said it worked for dubz, but didn't for AM. Two people trying to kill ski. And now AM's pm partners that she's sharing info with are the two people who are easiest for her to pocket. I don't know why she would have even submitted a night action, if she can change her vote throughout the day. I had in my notes the vote stealer was probably chaos, and that would make sense with the 2nd kill. And she probably could even have told mel and wz she was 3rd party and on their side and they would want to keep her around whatever their affiliation. It will give me good info to lynch her. And otherwise we are going to be wondering for the rest of the game whether we made the right choice to not lynch her... Giving me flashbacks to lion king where we kept sketchy lyra around for so long when she was a wolf.
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Yeah, this somehow makes me feel even worse about you. Definitely lynch here by midgame.

SnowshoeDog143 said:
Possible.

Because I will always be wondering about her being a wolf/chaos. Because it doesn't make sense to me what happened last night. Because that situation is sketch. Because the people who are telling me to trust her are you and mel. Because no one will tell us what is going on that would make it less sketch.
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What are your top wolf suspects?
 
Animal Midwife said:
Yes.



So two blockers then?



Yes, if you're lynching me for the Ski redirection.
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Yeah. Just discussing that with mutts.

So if you don't have to submit an action at night, did you even get a notification that you were redirected? Can you change who the person you control their vote during the day?
 
Animal Midwife said:
Yeah, this somehow makes me feel even worse about you. Definitely lynch here by midgame.



What are your top wolf suspects?
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Because I'm discussing mechanics tinfoils I have? 🙄

Stagg, mel, dina, going back and forth on mutts. Also lupin is getting up there.
 
SnowshoeDog143 said:
Yeah. Just discussing that with mutts.

So if you don't have to submit an action at night, did you even get a notification that you were redirected? Can you change who the person you control their vote during the day?
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I do have to submit an action. Yes, hence me says what happened at least five times today. I don't understand the last question.
 
SnowshoeDog143 said:
Because I'm discussing mechanics tinfoils I have? 🙄

Stagg, mel, dina, going back and forth on mutts. Also lupin is getting up there.
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No, it's because you're not lynching a wolf read after hedging other reads I've called you out on before.

What are the reasons for the ones you listed here?
 
Unlynch mutts
Lynch Stagg

since the former is not gaining traction
 
Animal Midwife said:
I do have to submit an action. Yes, hence me says what happened at least five times today. I don't understand the last question.
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Ah I get it - answers my last question. Does it make sense to you that you weren't redirected? Don't you understand why I think you are sketchy just due to this situation?
 
SnowshoeDog143 said:
Ah I get it - answers my last question. Does it make sense to you that you weren't redirected? Don't you understand why I think you are sketchy just due to this situation?
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The thing is I was redirected. My action still worked though. I think it's the seventh time I've said this.

I would understand the suspicion if I didn't have anything to show for my claim, but my abilities clear as day, so I don't get the issue.
 
Animal Midwife said:
No, it's because you're not lynching a wolf read after hedging other reads I've called you out on before.

What are the reasons for the ones you listed here?
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What are you talking about? Who is this wolf read I should be lynching and what hedgy reads have you called me out on?

I had you as probably village.. but new day, new intel. I think you are either a wolf or chaos, why am I not allowed to lynch you?
 
Animal Midwife said:
The thing is I was redirected. My action still worked though. I think it's the seventh time I've said this.

I would understand the suspicion if I didn't have anything to show for my claim, but my abilities clear as day, so I don't get the issue.
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Sorry, but so its as clear as mud... You submit "I want to control mj's vote tomorrow". You get a notice "you were redirected to ski". You still have control of mj's vote though today?
 
SnowshoeDog143 said:
What are you talking about? Who is this wolf read I should be lynching and what hedgy reads have you called me out on?

I had you as probably village.. but new day, new intel. I think you are either a wolf or chaos, why am I not allowed to lynch you?
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The ones you just listed? Stagg is even on the board now.
 
Unlynch am
Lynch stagg

I am kinda seeing a world in which this crazy stuff potentially doesn’t make AM a wolf so I’m willing to give her the benefit of the doubt I guess. I am still iffy on Kara but she’s either semi succeeding at pocketing me in PM or is just looking more villagey. I’d be down for a bryndi lynch as well though.

Why are people on MSU? My main issue against them is their lurkiness/not much apparent wolf hunting
 
Animal Midwife said:
The ones you just listed? Stagg is even on the board now.
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Yeah I voted stagg yesterday and was going to vote him again today. Before this happened. But You will also give me good info and I feel like there is a high chance you arent village. Unless Im missing something important.

Mel based on feels kinda like last game and tunneling kara who I think is villager. And he hasnt called me out for being sketchy yet except for very passively which he did last game too. Your lynch would help my read there because he jumped to defend you today as quick as he jumped to defend coffee last game.

Dina for not posting much content.

Mutts is hard because I thought her D1 comments were sketch and some of her posts, but in pm she sounds ok. A stagg flip would help my read on her.

Lupin, I have as neutral to sketch as she has done some opportunistic things but I've agreed with her quite a bit. Her flip would definitely give info on kara.
 
Lupin21 said:
AM, I thought you said you couldn't change the vote, but you proved you could by moving it from MJ to capri? I got lost in all this chit chat.
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No, I said I could and dubz wanted proof.
 
The shelter kill is bothering me from my overnight thoughts. She wasn't being that active, so why kill her? Her ability was also something not really that worthy of if having found out, she needed to be killed for. It makes me wonder if capri and/or bryndi killed her so they could chat and have a vouch PM partner.
 
I'm not sure what to make of the AM/stagg/Dubz thing. I'm not sure of the hesitation to keep AM alive if she is a 3rd party because I think it's better to get rid if a 3rd party than a villager.

The mutts/cray exchange felt weird to me too. I don't think it v/v but that's only based on feels.

I'm still leaning wolfy on lupin too.
 
SnowshoeDog143 said:
Um does it implicate anyone?
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I don't know if it straight up damns that person, but in my mind it def creates reasonable doubt about AM and Ski's death. I'm not convinced we're looking at an Occam's Razor issue.

SnowshoeDog143 said:
lynch AM

Something is sketch. A redirector item that said it worked for dubz, but didn't for AM. Two people trying to kill ski. And now AM's pm partners that she's sharing info with are the two people who are easiest for her to pocket. I don't know why she would have even submitted a night action, if she can change her vote throughout the day. I had in my notes the vote stealer was probably chaos, and that would make sense with the 2nd kill. And she probably could even have told mel and wz she was 3rd party and on their side and they would want to keep her around whatever their affiliation. It will give me good info to lynch her. And otherwise we are going to be wondering for the rest of the game whether we made the right choice to not lynch her... Giving me flashbacks to lion king where we kept sketchy lyra around for so long when she was a wolf.
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Funny enough, this makes me lean you more villager. Bad vote, but still villager.

SnowshoeDog143 said:
AH this hurts my brain :stop: It does not make sense if you are a villager!

Is it just me? @WildZoo @Melchizedek so its clear to you that am is village?
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From my reads of her on thread and in PM: Yes I'm fairly sure AM is village. Enough to know I don't want to vote there.

I don't have whatever else info Dubz has on her that made Dubz change her vote.

Life alert commercial for horses: "Help, I've fallen and I can't giddyup!"
 
Mad Jack said:
I'm a ******* horse and definitely not a wolf
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Animal Midwife said:
Do you want me to take your vote? I'm attempting to use it the least obstructive and most info gaining way possible. I assumed we could just talk.

What is said scenario?
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But what info are you gaining?

I could see a scenario where you are not a wolf - maybe a wolf was trying to kill you and that was redirected to Ski not your action was redirected to Ski, but I don't think that is right
 
I just got off the train and I haven’t caught up all the way yet (about 1/4 way down of 34, for my own refrence) but I didn’t want to lose my tags again, so I’ll make a quick post before I drive home.

Animal Midwife said:
Guys listen. I was redirected, but my action still worked as normal.
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This makes no sense? Why would this ever happen?
WildZoo said:
Yeah she already told me the multiple hoops that have to be jumped through. I prefer Occam's Razor unless I'm given a really good reason to ignore it. There isn't much room for interpretation here. If you think two separate, non-AM people targeted ski last night while AM's action was allowed to go through normally despite me being told the redirection was successful, just because ski was nearby...then I guess that is your prerogative, but it makes no sense on multiple levels.
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Wait... she said her action went through because the person she was acting on was near ski? That isn’t how that works. Either she’s lying, or she must have grossly misunderstood mods. I’m going with the former.

Lynch Am
 
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