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Karabiner13 said:
but if AM is a villager this doesn't mean anything (not sure what I think about dubz's redirection of am to ski). Villagers are wrong all the time. It's part of the game. So do you have a better reason we shouldn't be voting you?
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Yes, do you have your own reasons for why you may be considering me? I dont know how to answer that question w/o role a reveal which I'd rather not.

AM may be wrong but I also think she's a wolf. WZ had fair questions, which I answered. Stagg was addressed as well.

You can also ask my PM budz - Coffee and Snowy how they feel about me - we haven't been too chatty but they have an additional perspective

Karabiner13 said:
untrackable and able to disarm a bomb. There are other variations as well

ETA: disarming a bomb means they won't die when normally a person killing a bomb would die with the bomb
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Does disarming the bomb usually kill the person that is the bomb or just take the ability? Are ninjas usually village or wolf?

WildZoo said:
I was waiting for you to role reveal as whatever the horse equivalent of Ash is 😉
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Seabiscuit?
 
muttmanager said:
Does disarming the bomb usually kill the person that is the bomb or just take the ability? Are ninjas usually village or wolf?
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Usually if the bomb is village the ninja is a wolf. If any other wolf tries to kill the bomb they would die, but the ninja can do it and survive.
 
WildZoo said:
I said I like a good story

I'm confused about whether or not you read all the posts here
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Yeah I was ninja'd by your intel and had to go back and read. I spent some time grilling AM last night and I think your intel is good, but that you're interpreting it wrong.

Karabiner13 said:
@Melchizedek you've been stuck on me for 3 days and barely looked at anyone else. Either you are a wolf who had decided it's your personal goal to get me lynched (like you did fine dubz one game) or you are a villager who needs to get his head on straight and remove the blinders

What will you get from me flipping village?
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Have you been reading anything I post or just going to play this game of reducing everything I say to its simplest form?
I just put out a list of people that I'm looking into, and sketched out by.

IF you flip village, I'd probably be between lynching Lupin (because I smell a wolf between the two of you, and I think one is in the other one's pocket) have to REALLY re-evaluate if I'm reading AM right, and soft clear meats (only on my personal list).

muttmanager said:
How do you feel about WZ's item claim - in regards to your AM feels?
(I'm here for more puns :angelic:)

Eta- clarity - not asking for info from your PM but your vouching for AM pretty hard. What if she flips wolf
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See above. If she flips wolf, then I'm thoroughly pocketed and she wins this round of AM v.s. Mel.

WildZoo said:
Well if village isn't buying what I'm selling, again, that's why I asked. All I've seen so far is two other people in my wolf pile saying they don't have a read on capri either way.

With the total votes on the main wagons being relatively low I'd expect wolves to be pretty spread out. It just interests me how little interest there has been in capri as another option, keeping that in mind.

Do you think wolves have been saving Kara every day?
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For the record yes, I believe capri is sketchy, been saying it for a while, but that is not where my biggest wolf reads are, which creates kind of an impasse because you don't believe my biggest wolf reads are worth lynching. Its this broken voting bloc thats been detrimental to finding an actual wolf and allow the wolves to manipulate the lynch.
I just woke up but like I said last night Meats and Lupin have been the two that stuck out on my quick look through the voting records for being on counters to kara everyday so far. If Kara flips wolf, I'd probably be voting Meats; I don't think Lupin (and I'm really taking a leap of faith on this because I haven't played with her much before) would openly defend a packmate for 3 days.

WildZoo said:
I was waiting for you to role reveal as whatever the horse equivalent of Ash is 😉
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Karabiner13 said:
and mel doesn't even remember me being a wolf in that game :laugh:
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oh hell I apparently completely blocked that out from memory because it all came crashing back when you mentioned it.

ETA: If AM is lynched today and I'm right about her being village, I will be WOAH-fully sad.
 
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Melchizedek said:
Yeah I was ninja'd by your intel and had to go back and read. I spent some time grilling AM last night and I think your intel is good, but that you're interpreting it wrong.
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Yeah she already told me the multiple hoops that have to be jumped through. I prefer Occam's Razor unless I'm given a really good reason to ignore it. There isn't much room for interpretation here. If you think two separate, non-AM people targeted ski last night while AM's action was allowed to go through normally despite me being told the redirection was successful, just because ski was nearby...then I guess that is your prerogative, but it makes no sense on multiple levels.
 
Karabiner13 said:
but if AM is a villager this doesn't mean anything (not sure what I think about dubz's redirection of am to ski). Villagers are wrong all the time. It's part of the game. So do you have a better reason we shouldn't be voting you?
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What has rubbed me is how she was wrong. Made a comment about "stop lynching villagers" as if Gwen was guaranteed to be wolf.

Also why is she asking WZ to lynch Stagg but her self lynching Mutts?

I think AM is wolf and either you or Mel are part of her pack but I think I gotta consider that some
 
WildZoo said:
Yeah she already told me the multiple hoops that have to be jumped through. I prefer Occam's Razor unless I'm given a really good reason to ignore it. There isn't much room for interpretation here. If you think two separate, non-AM people targeted ski last night while AM's action was allowed to go through normally despite me being told the redirection was successful, just because ski was nearby...then I guess that is your prerogative, but it makes no sense on multiple levels.
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Are you sure you're not just blinded by who that implicates instead of AM?

What do you diagnose a horse who refuses to sleep indoors?
Unstable!
 
Melchizedek said:
Are you sure you're not just blinded by who that implicates instead of AM?

What do you diagnose a horse who refuses to sleep indoors?
Unstable!
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No? I have no idea who it implicates because I have no idea who she was acting on or what action she was performing.
 
Melchizedek said:
Are you sure you're not just blinded by who that implicates instead of AM?

What do you diagnose a horse who refuses to sleep indoors?
Unstable!
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Lol if you think it implicates someone else why don't you just say WHO and WHY rather than being cryptic because that is a poor defense ATM
 
Working on catching up rn
Stagg737 said:
Jeebus people, do I need to role reveal?



That I really, really want to see Kara flip today. Also that I need to re-read some things.
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Stagg737 said:
To answer @bryndiana.jones question: Because her last minute flip to Moose made me wonder if she was waffling to save Kara and some of her other posts give me feelz (can pull later if you want). Maybe that's normal Lupin, idk.
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Okay but in another post you say that you think Lupin is a smart player and should not be lynched for a while, so where does this land Lupin for you on your wolf to village spectrum?
 
WildZoo said:
No? I have no idea who it implicates because I have no idea who she was acting on or what action she was performing.
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CoffeeQuestionMark said:
Lol if you think it implicates someone else why don't you just say WHO and WHY rather than being cryptic because that is a poor defense ATM
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I don't know what (and I didn't care to ask) but I know who. That information is not mine to share, if AM chooses to reveal more, thats her decision. I learned my lesson when I pissed off Pippy in SEGA.

CoffeeQuestionMark said:
That pun was horrible.
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I know. It was kind of a nightMARE huh?
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
my beautiful tie ruined

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I am now looking to:

1. Lynch AM
2. Lynch Ski
3. Lynch Kara AND/OR Stagg
3.b if one flips wolf look to see who played the tie game to try to save them
4. Lynch Capri cuz tin foil
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With Ski flipping village, does this change your order of events and/or how you're thinking about the people in this order?

Animal Midwife said:
Lynch mutts
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Why not Stagg? This seems very inconsistent for you which is not village AM.

Also I don't believe for a second that you were visibly panicking and now have disappeared. My bet is you're lurking to see if village can talk themselves out of lynching you.
 
Melchizedek said:
I don't know what (and I didn't care to ask) but I know who. That information is not mine to share, if AM chooses to reveal more, thats her decision. I learned my lesson when I pissed off Pippy in SEGA.


I know. It was kind of a nightMARE huh?
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Well I don't know who so that has not been a factor in my interpretation at all. I guess I turn your own question back at you then. I just don't understand what has you so strongly believing the alternate story when it is so convoluted.
 
Karabiner13 said:
interesting. I'd like some original thought from you rather than relying on others reads

so, what are your reads?
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That was also placed before the AM info came out, so I may be going that route, need to reread all of the late night activity over lunch. An AM lynch still gives me good info about Mel, and if AM flips wolf you would definitely go down my rankings and Mel would go up.
 
vetmedhead said:
Why have your thoughts on snowy and I changed?
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D1 you and snowy jumped on me for what I pointed out about KL, which imo was something that was perfectly fine to point out, and at least two other players pointed out that she backtracked too. So it was sketch to me that the both of you voted for me for that reason, and that you didn't point out anyone else who said the same thing I did. After D1 you have both been posting more analysis, and your votes have had more merit to them than the reason behind voting for me did.
 
Melchizedek said:
I don't know what (and I didn't care to ask) but I know who. That information is not mine to share, if AM chooses to reveal more, thats her decision. I learned my lesson when I pissed off Pippy in SEGA.


I know. It was kind of a nightMARE huh?
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Well if no one shares, we lynch AM, and then we just.. never know? Or you share after?

AM has asked us to lynch Stagg and is voting to lynch Mutts. Is one of these the person implicated?

edit: AM doesn't even seem to be suggesting someone else is implicated. This whole thing smells fishy and I think you guys are just trying to confuse us with this horse play.
 
SARdoghandler said:
With Ski flipping village, does this change your order of events and/or how you're thinking about the people in this order?



Why not Stagg? This seems very inconsistent for you which is not village AM.

Also I don't believe for a second that you were visibly panicking and now have disappeared. My bet is you're lurking to see if village can talk themselves out of lynching you.
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I think I'm overthinking Capri, possibly. AM is my priority and my secondary now includes Kara/Stagg/Mel.
 
SARdoghandler said:
Why not Stagg? This seems very inconsistent for you which is not village AM.

Also I don't believe for a second that you were visibly panicking and now have disappeared. My bet is you're lurking to see if village can talk themselves out of lynching you.
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I have classes sometimes.:lame:

How is it inconsistent? I mentioned mutts is one of my wolf leans prior. And Stagg bussing whomever won't help me get a clearer picture any faster that if I lynch another lean. I'll move there if there's significant interest, but plan to stick to mutts for now.
 
Animal Midwife said:
I have classes sometimes.:lame:

How is it inconsistent? I mentioned mutts is one of my wolf leans prior. And Stagg bussing whomever won't help me get a clearer picture any faster that if I lynch another lean. I'll move there if there's significant interest, but plan to stick to mutts for now.
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Nah. This isn't like you.

I'll add it to the list of posts I have that just don't sound like village AM. Idk if you are a wolf, or a 3rd party but I'm strongly feeling not village.
 
I don't seem to be on the same page as SAR.

Here is where I'm confused

1) Why wouldn't a vote steal be redirected?
2) Vote stealing doesn't seem to be relevant to the issue at hand. Perhaps is saying she's not ninja
2.A) Issue with this is that if it is part of wolf pack, she could claim vote steal but still be ninja
2.B) Second issue is that there was a second attack attempt. Don't know if that means 2nd party or knowing there was a redirection if wolves really DID attack Ski but also a second wolf used another kill on someone else and was redirected to Ski (AM)
2.C) OR is a 2nd party but that is still nefarious as dubz said
3. It doesn't make sense that it implicates someone else
 
WildZoo said:
Well I don't know who so that has not been a factor in my interpretation at all. I guess I turn your own question back at you then. I just don't understand what has you so strongly believing the alternate story when it is so convoluted.
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I don't want to lose someone on my village list?
I don't want to admit to myself I've been so thoroughly bamboozled?
I don't want to abandon AM when she's vouched for me when I've done something stupidly sketchy and she still believed I was village?
I don't even know anymore man. It looked perfectly plausible thinking about it last night, but in the harsh light of day, I know the mental acrobatics that go into it.

You're probably right, she's probably a wolf, but after everything I put her through when we village together, I owe her the benefit of the doubt. I just CANTER vote there.
 
hmm..could MJ voting for himself be some kind of restriction? He has not been vocal at all.
 
SARdoghandler said:
Maybe you should explain your "action" then. I don't think anything else is gonna get you out of this
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Animal Midwife said:
Watch very closely.
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SportPonies said:
Day 4 Thoroughbred Thursday Lynch Tally

AM (7) - coffeebean, dubz, mutts, meats, cray, SAR, Weim
Kara (2) - cubs, mel
Mutts (1) - AM
Mel (1) - Kara
MJ (1) - MJ

12/22 voting

Lynch close at 9pm CST

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killerleaf said:
hmm..could MJ voting for himself be some kind of restriction? He has not been vocal at all.
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I think the above exchange might help give you more context
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
Well if no one shares, we lynch AM, and then we just.. never know? Or you share after?

AM has asked us to lynch Stagg and is voting to lynch Mutts. Is one of these the person implicated?

edit: AM doesn't even seem to be suggesting someone else is implicated. This whole thing smells fishy and I think you guys are just trying to confuse us with this horse play.
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I was blocked last night and was in no way involved in whatever happened last night

eta - I assume it was a block - something short and formidable prevented me

I see what AM is pointing out but I also don't like this vote stealer role as it doesn't seem to be helping village atm, so I'm keeping my vote where it is rn
 
Animal Midwife said:
I think you're missing the point that I was redirected last night. And I don't have Ski's vote.
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What is your proposed explanation for last night then, in how it directly relates to you and your actions?
 
muttmanager said:
I was blocked last night and was in no way involved in whatever happened last night

eta - I assume it was a block - something short and formidable prevented me

I see what AM is pointing out but I also don't like this vote stealer role as it doesn't seem to be helping village atm, so I'm keeping my vote where it is rn
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How is it not helping village?
 
Animal Midwife said:
I think you're missing the point that I was redirected last night. And I don't have Ski's vote.
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I guess I don't see what you're pointing out then - we knew you were redirected. I also can tinfoil the mechanics of a redirector but I don't know so maybe some clarity on how that usually works will clear up what you're trying to point out

Animal Midwife said:
How is it not helping village?
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Based on what its seems,
Day 1 - it didn't prevent a tie
Day 2 - MJ was placed on capri with 1 other vote
Day 3 - Capri was placed on MSU sole vote
Day 4 - back to MJ and has him self voting

Ties are dumb and day 2 -3 provide no insight; I could tinfoil day 4 is a claim that MJ is a wolf for voting himself - but could also mean nothing there
 
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