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Animal Midwife said:
Scroll up 6 posts please.
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I'm trying not to do shouty capslock right now.

This is the kinda cryptic crap that is going to make me lose my freaking mind. I scrolled up, I didn't see it. I read the posts below, and didn't figure it out until SAR JUST CAME OUT AND SAID IT.

Refusing to answer direct questions directly, is not some sort of Socratic method that is going to make me a better player a lot of the time. I do watch closely, and I just don't end up seeing things. It's a problem for me. I remember we had one vet player reveal on thread that they had some sort of health issue that made it hard for them to read big posts one time. So some things are just going to be challenges for some players in trying to village.

So it takes a village, it helps if other villagers try to do things to help other villagers overcome weaknesses.

So when you make simple observations about things that aren't secrets on thread for the wolves at large, can you just state what you're seeing when you're asked a question? To make it easy for other villages who might have difficulty picking things up just because you told them where to look?

Maybe this is a wolf thing you're doing right now, but it happens when you're village too and I'm not trying to pick on you it's just a frustration I have in general, and maybe it's my own fault and my own problem to accept. Maybe you have a blockage as well in being helpful this way (just as I do in being more concise for people) and if so, OK. I just can't tell where it comes from, but if you can help me this way I would be really grateful.
 
Stagg737 said:
Lol, no. Onus is on you to prove to me you're not a wolf. Especially when I'm in second place.
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I've talked to you for days about this. It's actually your life on the line if my lynch goes through. It's your choice to cooperate or not.
 
Animal Midwife said:
I've talked to you for days about this. It's actually your life on the line if my lynch goes through. It's your choice to cooperate or not.
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Vague threats and crappy negotiating won't move my vote smart***. Play stupid games and you can win stupid prizes. If I die you're going to lose the most fun player in the game.
 
Stagg737 said:
Vague threats and crappy negotiating won't move my vote smart***. Play stupid games and you can win stupid prizes. If I die you're going to lose the most fun player in the game.
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You don't seem very fun right now 😛
 
Stagg737 said:
Vague threats and crappy negotiating won't move my vote smart***. Play stupid games and you can win stupid prizes. If I die you're going to lose the most fun player in the game.
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It's going to be a shame then.

CoffeeQuestionMark said:
Tomorrow or today?
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I'm overestimating the village if I say today. Tomorrow seems more realistic.
 
WildZoo said:
There are other ~reasons~ behind why I know she's not a wolf, but sharing those would be more harmful to the village than helpful right now so my hands are a little tied.
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So are you hard vouching for her or not? Because before it sounded like you were hard vouching and now it sounds like a soft one. Wth Dubz.
 
Stagg737 said:
So are you hard vouching for her or not? Because before it sounded like you were hard vouching and now it sounds like a soft one. Wth Dubz.
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It's a hard vouch. The reasons are solid. I just can't talk about them. How is this a difficult concept?
 
Animal Midwife said:
And?
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And what? That's why I'm voting for you

Lupin21 said:
Also, bryndi, what is your thought that AM is on your lynch from yesterday? Do you have them both as wolves?

ETA: Meaning stag
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Do you mean what am I thinking if AM flips village or wolf and how that reflects upon my thoughts on stagg? If that is your question, then if AM is village I will probably be lynching stagg tomorrow, if she is wolf then that pushes stagg more neutral/slight village for me
 
vetmedhead said:
I think the above exchange might help give you more context
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wow, this connected the dots, thank you freaking Jeebus Crab someone was able to explain.

So vote stealer. That isn't always a wolf ability. If village, it just gives one particular player more power in getting players dead. Just as a village vig.

I don't know how redirection of AM's ability would have something to do with the deaths. Is that her point? She just tried to prove her ability on thread just now as defense about not likely having another ability to kill?

Issue is in fact if she is part of a pack, where often the wolf can be designated to kill as part of the pack while also being able to submit their abilities as night actions.

I respect her informing us as part of her defense. Then again, not sure why you wouldn't just come out and say this on the stinking thread for people like me that miss details like that. I get not wanting a neon sign as clearly if you have a player like me wolf, I miss details, and that can help a villager inform saavy villagers and go under the clueless wolf radar. Dunno. Seems like mislynch is a bigger threat to AM right now than being a wolf NK target for being a vote controller. I think I've been in a pack where the vote controller was left to live for a while for various reasons (we had higher priority PR suspects to kill first, they were suspicious and might get mislynched in the meantime, etc etc).

All this to say, trying to make things clear is helpful to village, and perception of helpfulness is part of a good villager defense.
 
Stagg737 said:
Also, my current wolf reads for anyone interested:

AM (but has Dubz and Mel basically soft vouching), Kara, Lupin, Capri, Snowy. Depending how AM flipped, would give me info about Dubz and Mel as well as Coffee and VMH if my ridiculous tin-foil were true.

@Animal Midwife , who did you try and act on before the redirect?
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Oh. Also Add Dubz to my sketch leans list.
 
muttmanager said:
I was blocked last night and was in no way involved in whatever happened last night

eta - I assume it was a block - something short and formidable prevented me

I see what AM is pointing out but I also don't like this vote stealer role as it doesn't seem to be helping village atm, so I'm keeping my vote where it is rn
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@Lupin21
 
Karabiner13 said:
I thought that was who said had been blocked in my read through but let me check
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I assume blocked last night based on the language previously shared. Snowy and I discussed her comment in our PM her details are hers to share however it does not appear the same thing happened to us
 
Damnit, Stagg's reads are almost exactly the same as mine are which makes me want to lean him village. If ANYONE wants to vote Kara, Lupin, or Capri I am willing to waffle there as long as it doesn't end up with AM lynched.

I saw a horse drop some change and keep walking, I picked them up for him. He said “thank you, I almost left behind quarters!”
 
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Animal Midwife said:
I was told I was redirected, but my action still worked. That's it.
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Please break it down like I am 5 years old. "I have to submit whose vote I am stealing at night, the day before I intend to use it. I submitted to steal MJ's vote. My night result said I was redirected. Yet, I was able to steal MJ's vote anyway, as I just tried to show by showing that I put his vote on him and it showed in the last tally. This should show you that is my ability, and no matter what you think about the redirection issue, that I had nothing to do with Ski's death last night."

Boom. But instead we had to tease it out over the course of several pages and several short little posts with little info that kept referring to several other short little posts with little info. Please. It hurts me. Maybe this is the best you can do, just as the best I can do are my stream of consciousness mega-rants.

Even replying to me and saying that this is your style as a villager doing your best to be clear, would be nice for communication on this issue. Or else I just have to assume this is intentionally confusing.
 
Crayola227 said:
Please break it down like I am 5 years old. "I have to submit whose vote I am stealing at night, the day before I intend to use it. I submitted to steal MJ's vote. My night result said I was redirected. Yet, I was able to steal MJ's vote anyway, as I just tried to show by showing that I put his vote on him and it showed in the last tally. This should show you that is my ability, and no matter what you think about the redirection issue, that I had nothing to do with Ski's death last night."

Boom. But instead we had to tease it out over the course of several pages and several short little posts with little info that kept referring to several other short little posts with little info. Please. It hurts me. Maybe this is the best you can do, just as the best I can do are my stream of consciousness mega-rants.

Even replying to me and saying that this is your style as a villager doing your best to be clear, would be nice for communication on this issue. Or else I just have to assume this is intentionally confusing.
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Cray. How many games have you played with AM?
 
WildZoo said:
Cool. Why?
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Before it was dependent on how AM flipped. It was part of why I was okay with either her or Kara. Now that you stirred all this up and have jumped off AM with an "Jk guys, I can hard vouch for her now" it's a good way to get her lynched while being able to go back later and say "But I told you all she wasn't actually woof!!! Why didn't you listen!?!" I'm finding you sketch no matter how she flips.
 
Stagg737 said:
Before it was dependent on how AM flipped. It was part of why I was okay with either her or Kara. Now that you stirred all this up and have jumped off AM with an "Jk guys, I can hard vouch for her now" it's a good way to get her lynched while being able to go back later and say "But I told you all she wasn't actually woof!!! Why didn't you listen!?!" I'm finding you sketch no matter how she flips.
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Yeah because communication behind the scenes does not exist here. Ok.
 
I know what I said about third parties but something doesn't feel right about lynching AM after catching up on the thread.

I don't really like the huge bandwagon forming on her either
 
Karabiner13 said:
Go read the Karabou reads and you'll see them



So besides am and mel what are your thoughts?
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Im still ok with the AM lynch even as a 3rd party, but this Stagg business is starting to pique my interest. Especially if AM proves green. Lupin and genny seem trustworthy enough in PMs, so nothing that worries me too much there. People like capri and mutts have tended to fly under my radar in a sense of saying a fair amount but not really catching my attention one way or the other. Id like to hear more from Killer since her resurrection, and coffee has obviously been cleared. AM also seems to have interacted with nearly every single person in the game, so if this lynch goes through, the outcome will then allow me to start ISOing more productively, including the quieter people like weim so I can try to get some new leans.
 
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