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Meh. I don't care.

She shot shelter and she told me she had planned to shoot capri. She had no reason to lie to me at the time she told me these things, she knew she wasn't getting out of the lynch.
why does her killing villagers make you think she's village???
 
I'm pretty sure he explained that at least 5 different times.

And I agree she was playing her village game here, minus the whole shooting people thing. If she were a village vig she might have hesitated a bit more without SAR there to tell her to pull the trigger lol
omg lol, I wish I saw this answer before I asked you why you thought her murdering people was village

also, can I get a 6th explanation on cheezit/AM?
 
Excuse me while I go sort out my feelings and pick up the pieces of my shattered heart. I can't believe you'd do this to me on Valentine's Day of all days AM!


Because she wasn't reading wolf on thread and in PM.









and her pocket is apparently as warm as mine :yeahright:
this all reads really fake to me
fake outrage
 
Hell if I had an indication she was chaos I would still have tried to help keep her alive, for the shiggles and cuz I owe her :laugh:
I believe wolf you would have done so as well.

None of this helps the village read on you that I once had. I actually do want you to be village for once and for me to read you village. You haven't given me that grab my gun moment yet so there's still hope.
 
I'm still good with a stagg lynch tomorrow. AM may have been a third party, but I bet she was actually wolf-hunting as she likes village more then wolves. Going to think on my dubz read, though I'm thinking it leans her village. She would definitely save chaos (especially if its AM) no matter affiliation so NAI for her. Its really weird AM didn't tell mel she was third party...but I don't see why he would lie about that.
becuz wolf

also, because I would expect if we knew he was keeping chaos around villagers would lynch him

I'll lynch anyone supporting non-village on purpose. Lynch all liars, if it isn't village it needs to die, the friend of my enemy is my enemy.
 
Night 4

That night, someone also had thought to clean the barn, but carelessly discarded many things they should have never touched. Ratty saddle pads, expired bute, and extraneous baling twine all were binned. Deep in a tack trunk, an old dusty toy was found. Little did that stablehand know just how lifelike and smart that cotton-coated horse was... so they toy was tossed haphazardly in the trash as well. It would only be a matter of time before he met a very warm final resting place...

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Dead is @SARdoghandler - Bullseye - Ability Seer

Also discarded was the entire CD collection that was still loitering around after America was dumped, so into the trash those went as well.



Dead is @WildZoo - The Old Gray Mare


Also welcome back from the dead @SkiOtter! Please check your PMs and make sure they're still correct.


The Roster:
1. @CoffeeQuestionMark
2. @muttmanager
3. @SnowshoeDog143
5. @Skimble
10. @Melchizedek
11. @Dinashadow
12. @Crayola227
14. @Lupin21
15. @cubsrule4e
16. @genny
17. @vetmedhead
18. @MSUcvmHOPE
19. @Mad Jack
20. @Stagg737
24. @capri1722
26. @bryndiana.jones
27. @WeimMama
28. @Karabiner13
23. @killerleaf
8. @SkiOtter
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Deep in our imaginations:
(30.) @StayingPositive2017

The Renderer:
13. @Barkley13 - Sleipnir - 2x Vig
21. @Miranda Senft - Barn Cat - PMer
4. @dolphin106258 - Spirit - Redirector
29. @ziggyandjazzy - Horace Horsecollar
25. @sheltermed - A Horse With No Name - Anon Messenger
22. @Gwenevre - Secretariat - Tinkerer
9. @Animal Midwife - Mine That Bird - 3x kill, vote controller
7. @WildZoo - The Old Gray Mare
6. @SARdoghandler - Bullseye - Ability seer

It is now Day 5
 
I never said this? 😵



And how do you feel about Kara/Stagg/Mel after the AM flip?





Why?



Sorry if you don't like it, but that's what it felt like. You've got a soft spot for AM and the lovey-dovey/puppy-dog eyes posts felt like you were buying it.



This made me giggle for too long.



This feels...wrong. What didn't feel right. The bandwagon explanation reads like a manufactured thought. Like you noticed people have been talking about sketchy bandwagons all game and used it for reasoning. No me gusta.
Ohhoho, I still definitely see a wolf here.
If Mel is a wolf, he is doing a better job than last game, which is why I'm ok to lynch you first.

Lynch Stagg
 
This feels...wrong. What didn't feel right. The bandwagon explanation reads like a manufactured thought. Like you noticed people have been talking about sketchy bandwagons all game and used it for reasoning. No me gusta.

I was literally trying to decide who I was going to vote for with five minutes left.

what is this show up 3 min till to vote after being a no show a lot of the day?

why do I feel like you're hardly playing? I felt this last game when you wolfed

being mousy wolf or village will get you lynched, unless you just learn epic silent ninja player skills like some

This is me every game. I work stupid hours. I was trying to get a vote in and had 10 minutes to decide.
 
they can't be trusted to catch her honestly

well, maybe Mel, not sure

@Melchizedek @WildZoo can you refresh me how this typically works for you 3?
Dubz is the one with the AM 20Q Society Card. :shrug:
This is the first time I’be been in a game where AM was chaos and we could PM so this is a new situation for me and as WZ said, AM was playing her village game.
 
Okay so I am FINALLY caught up
The what? Is this from the write up?
No it's straight from the horse's mouth (☞゚ヮ゚)☞
(By which I mean dubz posted the item name and description)
The shelter kill is bothering me from my overnight thoughts. She wasn't being that active, so why kill her? Her ability was also something not really that worthy of if having found out, she needed to be killed for. It makes me wonder if capri and/or bryndi killed her so they could chat and have a vouch PM partner.
I was with you up until the end there. What. No. I don't PM unless PM'd to first, generally. I recognize this ends up not being the best strategy for me in some situations but I subscribe to the notion that most things ordinarily put in PMs actually belong on thread.
…anyway. Somewhat long tangent to say "no that's wrong."
Yes that's me, from my high school graduation pictures (when I had blonde hair 😱), and
my horse Swinger. 😍
😍 gorgeous 😍
Also, pretty sure write-ups have indicated we have some duds in the horse department as well that are of red persuasion.
What do you mean by this?
yeah kinda hating the stuff being kept to PM

SERIOUSLY guys, unless you think it's going to advance the wolf agenda to know something, the villagers are uninformed majority. The only thing we have going for us is putting our heads together to compare notes and find wolves.

The rest should be shared with the class. I get that some secrets must be kept to keep wolves from finding out about PRs. But be careful what info you're keeping secret and brokering for "trust" in PMs. Be careful about saying things in PM that you're not sharing on thread. It can make you look dishonest and LAL principle has caused many a mislynch (lynch all liars). Villagers need to do their best to be honest and appear so to others. PM secretiveness and talking behind people's backs (sharing suspicions by PM but not on thread) increases paranoia.

There are people that use PM privacy to network and share intel and advance a villager agenda. But please be careful. I say this having maybe screwed up myself this game.
PREACH
[Will edit in dad joke later]
boooooooooo :caution: 👎 get off the stage
Cray. How many games have you played with AM?
I kinda sympathize with Cray here. I don't know what "number of games played with AM" has to do with getting annoyed by her play style once in a while.
No and I'm sad because apparently she was planning to shoot capri
:yeahright:
 
Tl;dr - homework

I listed my tinfoil that they were conspiring and look at that, they were just not as wolves. Mel is leaning more village after this whole ****show

Like I said I'm moving on from you for now - which I would define as the opposite of stuck - though yes you are still on my list - everyone is on my list minus coffee. Wide enough net?

"sure, there's the whole wolf in plain sight thing, and I would never point to my activity as a sign of being village because it's NAI. I would point to the fact that I think a lot of my advice is pro-village and if I were a wolf I just wouldn't have to try that hard. I think that"

Is the last sentence here finished?

I know I need to learn how to wolf hunt and I feel like I am trying - so no offense taken - rl doesnt always allow me to quote and reply to thing that sketch me out. I am seeing things that are setting me off about other players as I skim - i appreciate the direct questions though

Questions-
What's fake tunneling?

What do you mean by town leaders?

Youre telling me to ask Lupin about you when you made multiple post about how you dont trust her? Has this changed?

In regards to quieter players, I cannot make a read on them, as there is nothing to read. So do you want detailed reads or do you want me to be more suspicious of silence and lurkers who I have no reasons for?

How are you reading Bryndi & MJ?


My list
Lupin - feeling charmed and pocketed
Dina - just saw an amazing wolf play by her, could definitely be a wolf this game. But I also think her appearances/behavior is NAI

Kara - neutral - previously stated
Mel - village - stuck on Kara, seems more insightful as a wolf (no offense)
Stagg - previously stated village lean reevaluated neutral, since WZ's NK could lean more wolf here -
Capri - neutral - never really see much from her, definitely more substance this game which could be NAI
Snowy - village lean - making good points on thread, seems fine in PM too

Genny & Skimble - weary of both, neutral but likely leaning more wolf for both - need to ISO & reread their posts

I dont know anyone belows meta -
MSU - seems normal, i think in the past she has posted more non-game related things but may just have been based on rl things, neutral
Killer - usually village but always sketches me out - must be the name - leaving the resurrected alone for now
Cubs - noob - seems to be following others - possibly NAI, could be wolfy
Weim - not familiar with her play, here her lurking seems opportunistic and sketchy

The missing from your HW -
MJ - selective mute = NAI
Bryndi - around, still thinking about d1 tie but willing to see more from her, probably need to ISO
Ski - welcome back - actually enjoy her play, good wolf hunter and am glad shes back - leaving the resurrected alone for now

Gone but not forgotten
Dubz - village
SAR - village

Cray - please read my posts many questions in here have been answered and I just did the repetiveness with AM and she was non-village. I feel like my points on you were outlined clearly.

I'm not saying it is your activity, its how your tone reads and the content (minus the teaching I like that part and its NAI to me).

My village worldview crumbles with each death, so yes it will if you flip village too.

I love WW homework - so plese check my work and give non-biased feedback teac'

*Though, last time I got WW HW was in Space from wolfator Mel. So light sketch points to you jbs
 
So here's where I'm at

Kara - talked with Dubz last night and asked her why she was so sure Kara was village. She gave some iffy reasons regarding meta, but still seemed very adamant that Kara is village. Seeing how SAR flipped and WZ and SAR were PM partners, I now see a better reason than meta as to why. Willing to just trust this.

Lupin - Still want to lynch here. D1 she played up KL's sketchiness and then hopped off the vote. Sketch points. D2 she played up Ziggy's (i think it was ZJ I have to go back and look) paranoia about how Bryndy's late self-prez vote was weird/sketchy/whatever. Lupin's played this game before and seen enough to know that timing is NAI at worst in terms of self-prez votes. (A stance that other people have vocalized as well). She just fueled the paranoia about AM when AM was voting for Gwen.

Lupin is literally just barely flying above the radar and looks like she's background puppeteering by encouraging village's own paranoia and helping whip us into a frenzy.

Capri - the comment about all 4 leading candidates on D1 being village, but no follow up thought process is still bothering me. Just reads like "I'm trying to contribute to discussion!" without really analyzing or being aware of what the implications of what she's assuming are.

Mutts - Fishing.....so much fishing....
 
So here's where I'm at

Kara - talked with Dubz last night and asked her why she was so sure Kara was village. She gave some iffy reasons regarding meta, but still seemed very adamant that Kara is village. Seeing how SAR flipped and WZ and SAR were PM partners, I now see a better reason than meta as to why. Willing to just trust this.

Lupin - Still want to lynch here. D1 she played up KL's sketchiness and then hopped off the vote. Sketch points. D2 she played up Ziggy's (i think it was ZJ I have to go back and look) paranoia about how Bryndy's late self-prez vote was weird/sketchy/whatever. Lupin's played this game before and seen enough to know that timing is NAI at worst in terms of self-prez votes. (A stance that other people have vocalized as well). She just fueled the paranoia about AM when AM was voting for Gwen.

Lupin is literally just barely flying above the radar and looks like she's background puppeteering by encouraging village's own paranoia and helping whip us into a frenzy.

Capri - the comment about all 4 leading candidates on D1 being village, but no follow up thought process is still bothering me. Just reads like "I'm trying to contribute to discussion!" without really analyzing or being aware of what the implications of what she's assuming are.

Mutts - Fishing.....so much fishing....
I'm at nearly the same place as you. The interactions between Lupin and mutts have been VERY weird. Mutts has flip flopped on her view of Lupin 3 times now, from not wolfy to wolfy to not wolfy to now wolfy again.

Can we test this out today? I'm good with either.
 
I listed my tinfoil that they were conspiring and look at that, they were just not as wolves. Mel is leaning more village after this whole ****show

Like I said I'm moving on from you for now - which I would define as the opposite of stuck - though yes you are still on my list - everyone is on my list minus coffee. Wide enough net?

"sure, there's the whole wolf in plain sight thing, and I would never point to my activity as a sign of being village because it's NAI. I would point to the fact that I think a lot of my advice is pro-village and if I were a wolf I just wouldn't have to try that hard. I think that"

Is the last sentence here finished?

I know I need to learn how to wolf hunt and I feel like I am trying - so no offense taken - rl doesnt always allow me to quote and reply to thing that sketch me out. I am seeing things that are setting me off about other players as I skim - i appreciate the direct questions though

Questions-
What's fake tunneling?

What do you mean by town leaders?

Youre telling me to ask Lupin about you when you made multiple post about how you dont trust her? Has this changed?

In regards to quieter players, I cannot make a read on them, as there is nothing to read. So do you want detailed reads or do you want me to be more suspicious of silence and lurkers who I have no reasons for?

How are you reading Bryndi & MJ?


My list
Lupin - feeling charmed and pocketed
Dina - just saw an amazing wolf play by her, could definitely be a wolf this game. But I also think her appearances/behavior is NAI

Kara - neutral - previously stated
Mel - village - stuck on Kara, seems more insightful as a wolf (no offense)
Stagg - previously stated village lean reevaluated neutral, since WZ's NK could lean more wolf here -
Capri - neutral - never really see much from her, definitely more substance this game which could be NAI
Snowy - village lean - making good points on thread, seems fine in PM too

Genny & Skimble - weary of both, neutral but likely leaning more wolf for both - need to ISO & reread their posts

I dont know anyone belows meta -
MSU - seems normal, i think in the past she has posted more non-game related things but may just have been based on rl things, neutral
Killer - usually village but always sketches me out - must be the name - leaving the resurrected alone for now
Cubs - noob - seems to be following others - possibly NAI, could be wolfy
Weim - not familiar with her play, here her lurking seems opportunistic and sketchy

The missing from your HW -
MJ - selective mute = NAI
Bryndi - around, still thinking about d1 tie but willing to see more from her, probably need to ISO
Ski - welcome back - actually enjoy her play, good wolf hunter and am glad shes back - leaving the resurrected alone for now

Gone but not forgotten
Dubz - village
SAR - village

Cray - please read my posts many questions in here have been answered and I just did the repetiveness with AM and she was non-village. I feel like my points on you were outlined clearly.

I'm not saying it is your activity, its how your tone reads and the content (minus the teaching I like that part and its NAI to me).

My village worldview crumbles with each death, so yes it will if you flip village too.

I love WW homework - so plese check my work and give non-biased feedback teac'

*Though, last time I got WW HW was in Space from wolfator Mel. So light sketch points to you jbs

Ski is awesome but has played twice in the last year. Died N1 the last game she played and up until she died this game, voted to lynch me every day... I tunnel as much as the next guy but we haven't had any wolves flip. So this is an odd statement.
 
Ski is awesome but has played twice in the last year. Died N1 the last game she played and up until she died this game, voted to lynch me every day... I tunnel as much as the next guy but we haven't had any wolves flip. So this is an odd statement.
In Space she was right on our tails and she died day 1 - maybe she just has good intuition

But lets not lynch me today bc I'm confused af
 
Ski - welcome back - actually enjoy her play, good wolf hunter and am glad shes back - leaving the resurrected alone for now
Ski's a good wolf hunter? I've played longer than you and even I haven't seen enough of Ski's play to make a statement like that. :eyebrow:


I'm at nearly the same place as you. The interactions between Lupin and mutts have been VERY weird. Mutts has flip flopped on her view of Lupin 3 times now, from not wolfy to wolfy to not wolfy to now wolfy again.

Can we test this out today? I'm good with either.

Yeah. I'm in.

Lynch Lupin


Y'all have me until 5ish. Made Valentine's date plans tonight and don't want to be on my phone the entire time. I'll check in near close after that.

ETA: Ninja'd by coffee
 
Catching up now and will address some things I missed in a minute.



Happy to answer, but first I'd like to know how you hard cleared AM.



K

I don't think wz said AM was hard village.. I think wz made statements like "She is definitely NOT a wolf" which WAS true...🙄

AM told me explicitly to trust Dubz.

So naturally I didn't trust her, but been talking to her in PM and she's made sense. Specifically, if dubz is a wolf and had set up AM, like we both apparently came to the same conclusion about, then she would have redirected AM's kill to someone other than who the wolves were targetting, then outed AM on thread. The way things played out would not have been the efficient wolf play. now there are only 2 deaths (ski and AM) where there could have been 3.

Hmm. This is a good point which makes me want to lean you more village.

It seems like nowadays we mostly use PMs to destroy and betray and pocket and burn village to the ground. To answer your earlier question.

I remember back when I started, I used PMs to discuss mechanics a lot, because certain people would lynch you if you talked about them too early on thread (looks like wolf fishing?) I feel like you have pushed the current ww crew to be willing to discuss mechanics on thread without getting lynch which is nice.

But I still like PMs. They are a cozy place to talk during short breaks when I don't have time to catch up on 10 pages of thread. And as long as you are aware that they are used to pocket and betray and be cautious of who you throw your trust out too, I still think they can be very useful.

becuz wolf

also, because I would expect if we knew he was keeping chaos around villagers would lynch him

I'll lynch anyone supporting non-village on purpose. Lynch all liars, if it isn't village it needs to die, the friend of my enemy is my enemy.

So I'm at the place, where I don't think mel would lie about this whatever his affiliation. I knew that him and wz would want to keep AM alive if they were villagers or wolves, so I just figured she told both of them. Maybe she didn't tell mel to cause chaos and make us think he's lying? But I don't think that's the important question here. I think the fact that he trusted her so easily.. felt like his wolf reaction to wolf coffee flipping seer last game. He's smart and tinfoils mechanics and plans well.. I feel like he would have figured out she's chaos. But then again if anyone could pocket him, it would be AM. I'm definitely coming back to him, but I think there are more important people to be lynched first.

Lynch jil

ooh interesting.
 
Lynch Stagg

Also, Lupin is up there now. But I think stagg needs to go first.
 
The fact that we had a village ability seer makes me think that the abilities are more affiliation determined this game. So if an ability seems wolfy, it probably is. And if it seems village, it probably is.
 
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It's Friesian Friday
As soon as Sporty said today is Freisian Friday, I got "Freaky Friday" stuck in my head. "It's freaky friiiiday, I'm in chris Brown's baawday" has now been playing on loop for 2 hours in there. Not linking here because of explicit +/- objectionable content... but can't deny it's an ear worm.

You're welcome for getting it stuck in your heads now, too, I guess :whistle:

Edit: drat. I broke my own "relevant game content only" posting guideline. Ah well, it was only a matter of time. Turns out I am still me when I mod
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So I'm at the place, where I don't think mel would lie about this whatever his affiliation. I knew that him and wz would want to keep AM alive if they were villagers or wolves, so I just figured she told both of them. Maybe she didn't tell mel to cause chaos and make us think he's lying? But I don't think that's the important question here. I think the fact that he trusted her so easily.. felt like his wolf reaction to wolf coffee flipping seer last game. He's smart and tinfoils mechanics and plans well.. I feel like he would have figured out she's chaos. But then again if anyone could pocket him, it would be AM. I'm definitely coming back to him, but I think there are more important people to be lynched first.
She pocketed me plain and simple. Wanna know how?

Paws dropped into my PM (Mods made it seem like it was because I voted for her but I think it was misleading). I told AM to see how she would react. AM suggested I try asking if there were third parties in the game.
Moot point because Paws said she didn’t know anything (or just wouldn’t tell me anything if she did know).
She’s still chillin in my role PM and we’ve been shooting the breeze. Held off talking about this on thread until I’d thoroughly investigated just in case it was info that would help wolves. After a couple days I think she’s just in the game for shiggles.


Point is, AM telling me to ask that question pretty much solidified my village read on her and her being third party didn’t cross my mind.
 
Damnit, Stagg's reads are almost exactly the same as mine are which makes me want to lean him village. If ANYONE wants to vote Kara, Lupin, or Capri I am willing to waffle there as long as it doesn't end up with AM lynched.

[Will edit in dad joke later]

You still owe us one more joke
 
Absolutely nothing.

#endcliffnotes
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As soon as Sporty said today is Freisian Friday, I got "Freaky Friday" stuck in my head. "It's freaky friiiiday, I'm in chris Brown's baawday" has now been playing on loop for 2 hours in there. Not linking here because of explicit +/- objectionable content... but can't deny it's an ear worm.

You're welcome for getting it stuck in your heads now, too, I guess :whistle:

Edit: drat. I broke my own "relevant game content only" posting guideline. Ah well, it was only a matter of time. Turns out I am still me when I mod
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Noooooo now it's going to be stuck in my head

One of our gross anatomy profs asks us "what day is it today?" and expects us to respond "FRIDAY!!" every Friday lol. One class day immediately after everyone responded someone just starts blasting Friday by Rebecca Black. So feel free to get that stuck in your head also.
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And what? That's why I'm voting for you


Do you mean what am I thinking if AM flips village or wolf and how that reflects upon my thoughts on stagg? If that is your question, then if AM is village I will probably be lynching stagg tomorrow, if she is wolf then that pushes stagg more neutral/slight village for me

And she flipped 3rd party, what are your thoughts on stagg now?
 
You still owe us one more joke

Damnit, Stagg's reads are almost exactly the same as mine are which makes me want to lean him village. If ANYONE wants to vote Kara, Lupin, or Capri I am willing to waffle there as long as it doesn't end up with AM lynched.

I saw a horse drop some change and keep walking, I picked them up for him. He said “thank you, I almost left behind quarters!”

Fixed get off my ass 😛
 
Day 5 It's Friesian Friday Lynch Tally
Stagg (2) - Weim, snowy
Skim (1) - skiski
Lupin (2) - Mel, coffee

5/20 voting
Lupin and @Stagg737 you are tied for first!

Lynch close at 9pm CST (~7.5 hrs remaining)

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I'm in chris browns body...
 
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