I hate rounds

[xanthomondo]

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Seriously, I feel like this is an absolute waste of time. You sit there and discuss patients for hours, most patients you have nothing to do with.

 

[McGillGrad]

This is pretty much what medicine is about. The rest is paperwork and phone calls.

 

[jdh71]

Seriously, I feel like this is an absolute waste of time. You sit there and discuss patients for hours, most patients you have nothing to do with.

This is where you learn. All of that "discussion" is practical application of clinicla science to the real world. I fail to see how any of it is a "waste of time". Try paying attention tomorrow. You get to also learn on patients that you didn't have to write a note on.

 

[xanthomondo]

This is where you learn. All of that "discussion" is practical application of clinicla science to the real world. I fail to see how any of it is a "waste of time". Try paying attention tomorrow. You get to also learn on patients that you didn't have to write a note on.

Yeah, I considered this aspect, but it's similar to reading a case in a book/NEJM or having a teacher lecture a case presentation to you - it doesn't really hit full learning potential until you have to do it yourself.

 

[glade]

Seriously, I don't know why half of you guys went to medical school. Seemed like it was a waste of your time.

 

[McGillGrad]

Seriously, I don't know why half of you guys went to medical school. Seemed like it was a waste of your time.

1) Money
2) Power
3) Women

 

[glade]

Sorry, I meant to write "I don't know how half of you GOT in medical school."

 

[McGillGrad]

Sorry, I meant to write "I don't know how half of you GOT in medical school."

1) Money
2) Power
3) Refer to #1

 

[glade]

More like:

1) Kissing ass like it was their job
2) Writing about some fake desire to help people
3) Kissing more ass

 

[McGillGrad]

More like:

1) Kissing ass like it was their job
2) Writing about some fake desire to help people
3) Kissing more ass

That may have been the way it was back in the 1920s when you went to med school, but it is mostly based on looks now.

 

[glade]

Sorry, but I've seen med students and you guys are mostly butt ugly.

 

[QofQuimica]

Yeah, I considered this aspect, but it's similar to reading a case in a book/NEJM or having a teacher lecture a case presentation to you - it doesn't really hit full learning potential until you have to do it yourself.

I'm guessing you're a third year, and if so, it's understandable that you don't enjoy rounds very much, especially since you're doing medicine this early in the year. You aren't really involved with most of the patients; you're trying to master the basics while being subjected to discussions about esoterica; and you may be kind of left to fend for yourself on a busy service. But try to hang in there, because it gets more interesting as you go further up the food chain. I had a much better time on rounds as a sub-I during fourth year than I did as a third year. I felt like I had more of a clue about what was going on, and the discussions seemed more relevant. Though, I still don't like rounds that last more than three hours tops.

One thing that might help would be if you read about one of your patients in some depth and see if you can find a relevant study about that patient's problem to discuss with your team. That way you will know something about what is going on and the discussion will be more interesting for you. You might also want to see if you can get to know something about some of the other patients. If you're sitting around in the afternoon doing nothing anyway, go talk to a couple of them and/or read their charts. You have way more time to just hang out with patients during third year than you will ever have again, and there are a lot of lonely people in the hospital who would probably be willing to talk to you about their illness, let you listen to their heart murmur, etc.

Hope this helps, and best of luck. 🙂

 

[bawer234]

Sorry, but I've seen med students and you guys are mostly butt ugly.

buh-bye

 

[jdh71]

Yeah, I considered this aspect, but it's similar to reading a case in a book/NEJM or having a teacher lecture a case presentation to you - it doesn't really hit full learning potential until you have to do it yourself.

Bah!

I was in kind of a "mood" when I made that last post. I can see you were mostly venting, but it does get to be a little frustrating because I see WAY too many students NOT paying attention on rounds, not knowing what going on or actively learning, and then they wonder why they didn't get that "honors" they thought they should have. I'll admit on a bad day, lack of sleep, headache, wife blowing fire up my ass via text message, etc. even I have trouble paying attention at all times. But if you do, you benefit, and you learn.

I can't underline this enough, and maybe it's becoming that much more real for me in my final year of residency, BUT you've basically got ONE shot at this. Your training will be your training. I'm not trying to show up and ruin your vent thread by vomiting a bunch of sanctimony in here, so I hope it doesn't sound like that. I know being a medical student is tough.

Good luck. And snacks help man. Fruit snack at 11AM? Anyone? Anyone? 👍

 

[alwaysaangel]

I hated rounds. I'm a doer not a talker. I don't care about what we would theoretically do for my patient if he had diarrhea 2/2 obstruction instead of AGE. Because he doesn't. I just want to do what needs to be done to make him better and move on.

Because of this I am applying to EM. 30 second presentations FTW!!

 

[AggieSean]

I hated rounds. I'm a doer not a talker. I don't care about what we would theoretically do for my patient if he had diarrhea 2/2 obstruction instead of AGE. Because he doesn't. I just want to do what needs to be done to make him better and move on.

Because of this I am applying to EM. 30 second presentations FTW!!

This times 1000. Except the EM part, ENT for me.

 

[MJB]

I have to agree...mental masturbation is incredibly dull, a waste of time, and mind numbing.

Most folks I've met that like this are called "internists".

I'd much rather actually DO something.

 

[Jolie South]

I have to agree...mental masturbation is incredibly dull, a waste of time, and mind numbing.

Most folks I've met that like this are called "internists".

I'd much rather actually DO something.

I'd rather just complete work efficiently. I mean internists could leave at like 2 pm every day if they wanted. Alas, it is not the case and we waste hours upon hours talking about useless crap and hypotheticals.

I might actually consider becoming an internist if that were the case. It would be a lifestyle specialty.

 

[MJB]

I'd rather just complete work efficiently. I mean internists could leave at like 2 pm every day if they wanted. Alas, it is not the case and we waste hours upon hours talking about useless crap and hypotheticals.

I might actually consider becoming an internist if that were the case. It would be a lifestyle specialty.

Good point and probably more true.

It's the inefficiency of many fields that I really cannot stand more than the actual rounding and/or clinic time.

I mean, I loved rounds on FP service, but that's likely because we didn't take 30 minutes per pt.