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Ok, I'm on the anesthesiology forum, and those guys are making 450K a year. WHy aren't we making that kind of money, and HOW are they making that kind of moneY? I WANT THAT KIND OF MONEY!

ideas?
 
Poety said:
Ok, I'm on the anesthesiology forum, and those guys are making 450K a year. WHy aren't we making that kind of money, and HOW are they making that kind of moneY? I WANT THAT KIND OF MONEY!

ideas?

If you want to make that much based on clinical practice alone, then you're in the wrong specialty. Administration and management can net you more money, but at the expense of your time devoted to doctoring. Society pays for what it values, and treatment of mental illness isn't it.
 
Doc Samson said:
If you want to make that much based on clinical practice alone, then you're in the wrong specialty. Administration and management can net you more money, but at the expense of your time devoted to doctoring. Society pays for what it values, and treatment of mental illness isn't it.


Can i be an anesthesiology psychiatrist? Just doesn't seem fair <sigh>
 
Anasazi23 said:
Snag one of the coveted pain management fellowship slots.

Or have a rockin' forensics practice.
🙂


I've been thinking about forensics, my mentor was telling me about frinds he has that make well over 500K a year in forensics. What exactly do forensics people do? Does anyone know? I've met a couple but they were academics -I'm wondering what a private practice forensic person does.

I know I have a lot to find out about - the only thing I know for sure is that I'm not doing addictions. Id rather stab myself 300x then do that for the rest of my life.
 
Poety said:
I've been thinking about forensics, my mentor was telling me about frinds he has that make well over 500K a year in forensics. What exactly do forensics people do? Does anyone know? I've met a couple but they were academics -I'm wondering what a private practice forensic person does.

I know I have a lot to find out about - the only thing I know for sure is that I'm not doing addictions. Id rather stab myself 300x then do that for the rest of my life.

Get your kid into modeling! Surely, she can make you more than 500K/year!
 
PublicHealth said:
Get your kid into modeling! Surely, she can make you more than 500K/year!


aww tx ph, but then that would be HER money 😳
 
I don't know what you're bitching and moaning about, your prospects for making mad loot are better than mine.
 
Author some mumbo jumbo self help books and sell them at Barnes and Noble. I see a ton of bullcrap selling for $15 a pop. Catchy phrase and Dr. soandso will sell, that is on my list anyway.
Or get into a rich town community and charge 600/ hr for "special" psychotherapy. Come up with something different and elitist sounding. Instead of whining, all you would be hearing is coins dropping in a bucket at the rate of about 16 cents a second.
Or do research for drug companies. A psychiatrist I know does that and drives a ferrari to work from his 12000 sq. foot home. He is in his thirties.
Or use your cush schedule to develop any number of other businesses on the side, another plan of mine. I would tell you what I am going to do but then that wouldn't be wise on an open forum (competition-wise).
Or settle for an hourly wage like everyone else. Punching a clock for the rest of your days. 👎 👎
 
Jeez -- 200K a year for working mostly regular hours, no call, interacting with patients, and a diagnoses that fall into either mood, psychotic, or personality disorders. More than that, if you can't cure anyone, that's ok -- the stats back you out.

You guys are despicable. Money, money, money. Look Ma! I got an M.D. next to my name -- just like 700,000 other Americans. I deserve it all!
 
letusbedocs said:
Jeez -- 200K a year for working mostly regular hours, no call, interacting with patients, and a diagnoses that fall into either mood, psychotic, or personality disorders. More than that, if you can't cure anyone, that's ok -- the stats back you out.

You guys are despicable. Money, money, money. Look Ma! I got an M.D. next to my name -- just like 700,000 other Americans. I deserve it all!
And we wil be laughing all the way to the bank!! :laugh:
 
letusbedocs said:
Jeez -- 200K a year for working mostly regular hours, no call,

Having your pager on 24/7 so your patients can reach you if they're in crisis

letusbedocs said:
interacting with patients

and taking the responsibility of having that relationship be the cornerstone of their well-being, enduring the firestorm if they decompensate, and the threat of patient suicide

letusbedocs said:
and a diagnoses that fall into either mood, psychotic, or personality disorders.

As if those are easy to treat... but completely ignoring anxiety, addiction, eating DOs, dementia, delirium, somatoform, and impulse control DOs.

AND... knowing that the chance of cure for SCMI (kinda like most chronic illnesses that physicians treat) is not really out there, but instead choosing to try to help our patients through their suffering.

Well, yeah, if an anesthesiologist is worth $450k, then I think that should all be worth at least $200k that most of us will never earn.
 
Leut yer a tool, you don't even know where any of us come from so just quit your smack talking now.

I happen to have worked my whole life jack sprat - since BEFORE YOU WERE PROBABLY IN UNDERGRAD so don't tell me about what I want to be compensated for -- -what a tool.


Anyway, back to our discussion. (note me ignoring the jerk that tries to act like psych is just "SO EASY" pffft)

Tria, I'm thinking of other business ventures too - I would definitely get bored doing the same thing everyday - I thought your idea of "innovative" or new type of snooty therapy was funny- I'm always telling DS how I couldn't tolerate that type of practice. I really need to be itnerested in what I'm doing on a daily basis. But then again, perhaps if I INVENTED the therapy it WOULD be interesting :laugh:

DS: I totally think psychs are underpaid for what we do, I mean seriously here. I nearly died when I found out they make that kind of bank! I can understand surgery with the call/etc - but come on, anesthesiologists have a nice life! (well according to them on that board they do, and hell I'll take those 14 weeks vacation ANYDAY!)

Rads, they deserve it for living in a hole, and derm, I still haven't figured out their salary 😕 but everyone knows psychs have a difficult job, we should be better compensated for sure.
 
Ok, maybe I can be a personal psychiatrist to one of these bullhorns making 30mil a year 😡 😱 thats simply outrageous. <period>
 
Poety said:
Ok, I'm on the anesthesiology forum, and those guys are making 450K a year. WHy aren't we making that kind of money, and HOW are they making that kind of moneY? I WANT THAT KIND OF MONEY!

ideas?

The sad harsh reality is that the people who are in the anesthesiology field actually work for their money. I’m sure they are required to have more schooling before actually doing the job. As far as I know of, according to my personal experience with psychiatrist is that the only thing that they do is do a 15- 20 (sometimes 30) min session with a patient (if in private practices) and writes a prescription for antidepressants, antipsychotic, etc. No actual therapy, well that’s what my shrink told me “Go talk to your therapist” when I’ve expressed myself.

If you guys are in the psychiatry field for a sweet paycheck… you’re certainly in the wrong field.

Anyhow… anybody could be a psychiatrist… Even pedophiles such as this guy

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=287612

letusbedocs said:
Jeez -- 200K a year for working mostly regular hours, no call, interacting with patients, and a diagnoses that fall into either mood, psychotic, or personality disorders. More than that, if you can't cure anyone, that's ok -- the stats back you out.

You guys are despicable. Money, money, money. Look Ma! I got an M.D. next to my name -- just like 700,000 other Americans. I deserve it all!

I’m giving you 2 thumps WAY up! &#61514;

Doc Samson said:
Having your pager on 24/7 so your patients can reach you if they're in crisis

Wow psychiatrists still do this today? Most of the ones that I‘ve went to tell me that if I’m in a life crises to dial up 911.

Doc Samson said:
Taking the responsibility of having that relationship be the cornerstone of their well-being, enduring the firestorm if they decompensate, and the threat of patient suicide

Most psychiatrists will baker act (involuntary admission to the psychiatric hospital) if they feel that their patients will either harm themselves or to other people. How hard is this?

You probably run your business the correct way Doc Samson but not everybody in the same practice does. This is not the procedure that was fallowed when I was seeing theses crappy psychiatrists whom one almost got me addicted to Benzos! (Yes Xanax was part of the cocktail!)

Poety said:
DS: I totally think psychs are underpaid for what we do, I mean seriously here. I nearly died when I found out they make that kind of bank! I can understand surgery with the call/etc - but come on, anesthesiologists have a nice life! (well according to them on that board they do, and hell I'll take those 14 weeks vacation ANYDAY!)

I disagree with you. Psychiatrists are not underpaid. If you want to talk about underpaid look at other fields (none medical) look at construction workers, look at people who bust their asses all day just to get less then what they deserve.
 
Anuwolf said:
The sad harsh reality is that the people who are in the anesthesiology field actually work for their money. I’m sure they are required to have more schooling before actually doing the job. As far as I know of, according to my personal experience with psychiatrist is that the only thing that they do is do a 15- 20 (sometimes 30) min session with a patient (if in private practices) and writes a prescription for antidepressants, antipsychotic, etc. No actual therapy, well that’s what my shrink told me “Go talk to your therapist” when I’ve expressed myself.

If you guys are in the psychiatry field for a sweet paycheck… you’re certainly in the wrong field.

Anyhow… anybody could be a psychiatrist… Even pedophiles such as this guy

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=287612



I’m giving you 2 thumps WAY up! &#61514;



Wow psychiatrists still do this today? Most of the ones that I‘ve went to tell me that if I’m in a life crises to dial up 911.



Most psychiatrists will baker act (involuntary admission to the psychiatric hospital) if they feel that their patients will either harm themselves or to other people. How hard is this?

You probably run your business the correct way Doc Samson but not everybody in the same practice does. This is not the procedure that was fallowed when I was seeing theses crappy psychiatrists whom one almost got me addicted to Benzos! (Yes Xanax was part of the cocktail!)



I disagree with you. Psychiatrists are not underpaid. If you want to talk about underpaid look at other fields (none medical) look at construction workers, look at people who bust their asses all day just to get less then what they deserve.


Poety... since you don't actually have a psychotherapy supervisor yet, let me assume the role for just one piece of advice: Say nothing.
 
Doc Samson said:
Poety... since you don't actually have a psychotherapy supervisor yet, let me assume the role for just one piece of advice: Say nothing.

I find it funny how somebody like me who has been a patient of psychiatry for such a long time finally challenges you psychiatrists and all you can do is run away with the tail between your legs. Why say nothing Doc Samson? Can’t you guys think of a good reason of why you guys deserve more money then any others? Should the person who fixes or creates your pager should get more money then you? Guess what Doc…

My father is an air force veteran, He served this country and he use to have a good job that he busted his ass with (The corp is very popular) was laid off because of CAFTA and NAFTA. He is now not getting nearly as much as he was… He gets harassed by the IRS (theses little filthy rats actually took every penny that he owns out of his bank) simply because he cannot afford the yearly taxes. He almost lost his house too. I consider my father a well patriot American who should be getting the kind of money that an anesthesiologists gets but unfortunately he doesn’t.

What exactly have you guys do to the community and to this country that makes you guys deserve such high demanding money? I admit that everybody needs to put food on the table but get real here.
 
Triathlon said:
Author some mumbo jumbo self help books and sell them at Barnes and Noble. I see a ton of bullcrap selling for $15 a pop.

You know, from what I've been told, it's not the books that make the author alot of money, it is the subsequent talk tours. So, it's basically just like musical bands, the CDs don't make them money it's the tours that does it. Not that it would matter, you would just have to travel more.
 
Here's a question for the MDs. If they did away with the massive liablilty you assume when treating a patient, would you accept less pay, or do you feel you would deserve less? I'm not asking in a contentious way, merely that if you could disconnect the responsibility for the life from the act of saving it, would you think you deserved less?
 
Psyclops said:
Here's a question for the MDs. If they did away with the massive liablilty you assume when treating a patient, would you accept less pay, or do you feel you would deserve less? I'm not asking in a contentious way, merely that if you could disconnect the responsibility for the life from the act of saving it, would you think you deserved less?
No way, that is not what we want compensated for at all. I want these twelve years of my life back. Plus the many more i will waste doing paper work. What needs to be realized here is that we "feel" like we have put in a massive effort to get to where we are (prepared to help the ungrateful crybabies that need our expertise so badly). Healthcare is not a right. Sorry to all of you bleeding heart liberals out there, you can't tell me that anybody has the right to my skills or my money. I as a God-fearing man am compelled to provide what I can out of the goodness of my heart, but nobody has the right to my agency.
Here we go....
 
I think it is really sad that a patient can feel so angry that they feel doctors do not deserve to get paid well. Anyone who deals with other people's problems and attempts to help them deserves to be WELL compensated if they are a licensed and competent practiitioner.
 
Originally posted by anuwolf:
The sad harsh reality is that the people who are in the anesthesiology field actually work for their money. I’m sure they are required to have more schooling before actually doing the job.

Required training before actually doing the job in anesthesiology:
4 years undergrad
4 years medical school
1 year internship
3 years anesthesia residency

Required training before actually doing the job in psychiatry:
4 years undergrad
4 years medical school
1 year internship
3 years psychiatry residency
 
Museless said:
Required training before actually doing the job in anesthesiology:
4 years undergrad
4 years medical school
1 year internship
3 years anesthesia residency

Required training before actually doing the job in psychiatry:
4 years undergrad
4 years medical school
1 year internship
3 years psychiatry residency

Not all anesthesiologists get the 400K paycheck. Not only that, but their lifestyle isn't that great, you have to be at the bedside like a 5am and stay through out the surgery (I would run out of magazines). Don't they also have high premiums? I heard when a patient sues their surgeon most often the anesthesiologist gets dragged in to boot.

Think of the taxes those guys have to pay, I mean if I made 500K just the thought of all those taxes would send me to the shrinks q monthly.

Hey that's pretty good for us, maybe I should advertise in the surgical subspecialties forum!
 
Doc Samson said:
Poety... since you don't actually have a psychotherapy supervisor yet, let me assume the role for just one piece of advice: Say nothing.


Will you be my supervisor? Since you can read my mind 😍 :laugh:
 
yeah I guess being around the surgeons all day (unless you ARE one of htem) wouldn't be much fund either.

I WOULD like to know why there is such a difference in pay between specialties though. I know there are some psychs making bank, but for hte most part, its plastics (perhaps because cash for service) and rads (why I don't know)

Psychs definitely need better compensation - as some readers on here can probably now see what we have to deal with :scared: 😱 on a daily basis 🙄 even on our own forum 🙁
 
Poety said:
yeah I guess being around the surgeons all day (unless you ARE one of htem) wouldn't be much fund either.
PARAPRAXIS!! PARAPRAXIS!!!

Poety said:
I WOULD like to know why there is such a difference in pay between specialties though. I know there are some psychs making bank, but for hte most part, its plastics (perhaps because cash for service) and rads (why I don't know)
Procedures, procedures, procedures.
 
OldPsychDoc said:
PARAPRAXIS!! PARAPRAXIS!!!


Procedures, procedures, procedures.


REALLY? but I can DO procedures :idea: ! What does ECT pay?

eta: omg, I jsut saw what you meant by the parapraxis in my post :laugh:
 
Anuwolf said:
I find it funny how somebody like me who has been a patient of psychiatry for such a long time finally challenges you psychiatrists and all you can do is run away with the tail between your legs. Why say nothing Doc Samson? Can’t you guys think of a good reason of why you guys deserve more money then any others? Should the person who fixes or creates your pager should get more money then you? Guess what Doc…

My father is an air force veteran, He served this country and he use to have a good job that he busted his ass with (The corp is very popular) was laid off because of CAFTA and NAFTA. He is now not getting nearly as much as he was… He gets harassed by the IRS (theses little filthy rats actually took every penny that he owns out of his bank) simply because he cannot afford the yearly taxes. He almost lost his house too. I consider my father a well patriot American who should be getting the kind of money that an anesthesiologists gets but unfortunately he doesn’t.

What exactly have you guys do to the community and to this country that makes you guys deserve such high demanding money? I admit that everybody needs to put food on the table but get real here.


You're obviously have a lot of anger toward Psychiatrist (and many other groups) and nothing they write in a post will change that. So why should they respond and possibly fuel the fire? In any case, the purpose of this forum is not to appease disgruntled patients.

I agree that it many Americans deserve higher pay, particulary people that are sent out to places like Iraq.
 
To add another inconsistency to the whole differing pays between medical fields, take a look at OB/GYN. These poor doctors have crap lifestyle, super high liability, and do surgery for peanuts. Why does a one hour knee scope pay three+ times what a one hour hysterectomy pays? Were the all ortho surgeons at the meeting that decided what medicare/medicaid would pay while the OBs were out delivering babies? Seriously, I think it all has to do with lobbying.
 
OldPsychDoc said:
Procedures, procedures, procedures.

That's really the bottom line. Your average psychiatrist tends to spend a lot of time with patients and this is one of the worst-reimbursed activities. A good friend of mine who is a pediatrician tells me that removing an ingrown toenail from a kid is the financial equivalent of seeing 3 kids in the clinic. Sad but true.
 
Not all anesthesiologists get the 400K paycheck. Not only that, but their lifestyle isn't that great, you have to be at the bedside like a 5am and stay through out the surgery (I would run out of magazines). Don't they also have high premiums? I heard when a patient sues their surgeon most often the anesthesiologist gets dragged in to boot.

I agree not all are making what the ones who brag constantly are. 🙂 And I agree premiums are high. But at the bedside at 5 am? Uh, no way. Surgery at 7:30 = greet the patient around 7. The only time gas passers see 5 AM is on call - which they can have a lot of, and busy call at that. Yeah, I've never gotten the "lifestyle" argument either, just for that reason. If a surgeon's operating, an anesthesiologist is at work too. Sure, no clinic, yada yada yada. Still.

Think of the taxes those guys have to pay, I mean if I made 500K just the thought of all those taxes would send me to the shrinks q monthly.

It's "q month". You can replace "q" with "each", thus saying "q monthly" is akin to saying "each monthly" - sounds awkward and is nonsensical. Q month would probably be an ineffective psychotherapy schedule as well - and reduce psychiatrist reimbursement . 🙂
 
Museless said:
I agree not all are making what the ones who brag constantly are. 🙂 And I agree premiums are high. But at the bedside at 5 am? Uh, no way. Surgery at 7:30 = greet the patient around 7. The only time gas passers see 5 AM is on call - which they can have a lot of, and busy call at that. Yeah, I've never gotten the "lifestyle" argument either, just for that reason. If a surgeon's operating, an anesthesiologist is at work too. Sure, no clinic, yada yada yada. Still.



It's "q month". You can replace "q" with "each", thus saying "q monthly" is akin to saying "each monthly" - sounds awkward and is nonsensical. Q month would probably be an ineffective psychotherapy schedule as well - and reduce psychiatrist reimbursement . 🙂


Come on muse, give Solid a break here 😉

I know what I'll do, I'll treat derms, rads, oncos and anesthethesiologists! Cash for service only - better yet, I get paid according to what YOU get paid :meanie: So if you're raking in the 600K/yr, I get 10% of that for my services, 2xweek schedule. If you get 25mil/yr I get 5% of that for my services. I figure if I do this whole "boutique" style psychiatry (ofcourse, I'll also throw in some anxiolytics for my patients comfort in my absence) I'll be making around 400K a year like the anesthesiologists :laugh:

I am kidding... OFCOURSE. I'll probably end up some lowly state hospital psych getting 40K a year 😱 😱 :scared:
 
I think any procedure based field makes more money any more thinking based field (ie surgery vs IM, anesthesia vs fp, etc).


Anesthesiologists dont have it as easy as ppl may think and they do tons of procederes: a lines, central lines, nerve blocks in all parts of the body, difficult iv sticks, intubations in many ways including fiberoptic. There is not much time to 'think' about the patient, it is more just reacting immediately.

I think Psych will be fine and I am looking forward to it. I would not want to do anesthesia for all the money in the world. I would burn out way too fast.
 
Triathlon said:
No way, that is not what we want compensated for at all. I want these twelve years of my life back. Plus the many more I will waste doing paper work. What needs to be realized here is that we "feel" like we have put in a massive effort to get to where we are (prepared to help the ungrateful crybabies that need our expertise so badly). Healthcare is not a right. Sorry to all of you bleeding heart liberals out there, you can't tell me that anybody has the right to my skills or my money. I as a God-fearing man am compelled to provide what I can out of the goodness of my heart, but nobody has the right to my agency. Here we go....

I guess you made an awful decision of becoming a psychiatrist, correct? At the time you thought that the yr salary was pretty hefty and that you thought that you were going to be a millionaire in time? If you seriously have this kind of attitude, I hope you can find yet another job to get into. If you’re tired of seeing us cry like babies, tell us how to demolish depression. If you spent more time giving us proper therapy and proper diagnoses then maybe we can actually be cure from what we suffer. If you’re having a difficult time curing people then maybe you’re not doing something right.

And sorry I must disagree with you. Healthcare is a right… Don’t sit here telling me that it’s a privilege. Just who died and made you boss and who deserves treatment and who doesn’t? I’m not being a bleeding heart liberal either, I’m sure that everybody else would agree with me. If you’re not willing to help people with passion without being greedy, get out of the field while you still can. Just admit that you made the mistake, I nor anybody else here would think of you other wise. You’re human too.

psisci said:
I think it is really sad that a patient can feel so angry that they feel doctors do not deserve to get paid well. Anyone who deals with other people's problems and attempts to help them deserves to be WELL compensated if they are a licensed and competent practiitioner.

Psisci, Theirs no way that I’m sitting here, as a patient who’s pissed and feel that doctors do not deserve to get paid well. I’m thankful that we have doctors who have such high access to advanced technology but let’s not get too greedy here. If doctors starts asking too much, their would be a high chance of doctors being laid off (Or doctors quitting) from private and local hospitals, simply because the hospitals could no longer afford doctors, not only that but peoples health insurance would go up too. I’m also well aware that all doctors should be able to get paid for the service that they do to everybody; EVERYBODY deserves to put food on the table for the family; however everybody deserves proper health care that they deserve. Who has any rights to decides whenever a certain person deserves to die for a treatment that can be simply treated? The only person I know who has every right to make such decisions is the big man up stairs.

jeff2005 said:
You're obviously have a lot of anger toward Psychiatrist (and many other groups) and nothing they write in a post will change that. So why should they respond and possibly fuel the fire? In any case, the purpose of this forum is not to appease disgruntled patients.

I agree that it many Americans deserve higher pay, particulary people that are sent out to places like Iraq.

I’m not angry towards psychiatrists or the psychiatry field. It however makes me angry when I see a bunch of psychiatrists complaining how their not getting enough money when the only thing that they can do to cure somebody is to write them a prescription for psychiatric drugs; anti depressions, Antipsychotic, mood stabilizers, tranquillizers, etc, with NO therapy. As far as Iraq goes… I refuse to get political at this point.
 
:luck:

In other news...how 'bout them Phoenix Suns?
 
Poety said:
I'll probably end up some lowly state hospital psych getting 40K a year 😱 😱 :scared:

Doing 40-hours of interpersonal psychodynamic psychotherapy a week, right? 😛
 
I almost wish I had the energy to care, but I don't.

But I will say I wish I had known that I wasn't going to make millions a year! 😱
Why didn't they tell me? :laugh:
 
Its' like walking into the twilight zone, entering the unknown, and yet we keep coming back don't we?

If I wasn't entertained to some degree, I would use the hardy ignore button 😉


PH - GDAMN YOU! :laugh: you psychotherapy lover you.
 
There is this VERY misguided notion alot of psych pts have that their iatrist, ologist, therapist are independly wealthy and are just doing what they do to pass the time. I have known very few in the mental health field who have gone into it for the money, and many who find themselves there not needing to earn a living. These folks tend to have poor boundaries, and perpetuate the myth that we all went through 10+ years of training to volunteer our time. This myth is even worse on the left coast here where the most bleeding of hearts get the most attention.
FACT: Most mental health professionals have sacrificed years of their life in school, and work very hard to make ends meet. It is simply insulting and ignorant to berate psychiatrists for trying to do their jobs and keep their sanity at the same time...grow up.
 
Come on muse, give Solid a break here

Seriously not trying to be a jerk... pointing it out within the walls of SDN so that the correct phrasing can be used 'out there' hopefully saving the poster a little face. Honest to Pete - or Poety.
 
Museless said:
Seriously not trying to be a jerk... pointing it out within the walls of SDN so that the correct phrasing can be used 'out there' hopefully saving the poster a little face. Honest to Pete - or Poety.


I appreciate it! It's just that q month didn't quite sound right when I reread the sentence.
 
psisci said:
There is this VERY misguided notion alot of psych pts have that their iatrist, ologist, therapist are independly wealthy and are just doing what they do to pass the time. I have known very few in the mental health field who have gone into it for the money, and many who find themselves there not needing to earn a living. These folks tend to have poor boundaries, and perpetuate the myth that we all went through 10+ years of training to volunteer our time. This myth is even worse on the left coast here where the most bleeding of hearts get the most attention.
FACT: Most mental health professionals have sacrificed years of their life in school, and work very hard to make ends meet. It is simply insulting and ignorant to berate psychiatrists for trying to do their jobs and keep their sanity at the same time...grow up.

Wow Psici the man stepping up to the plate, taking one for the team GO PSICI! :laugh:
 
I figure that as an MD, any specialty I go into will put me in the upper class automatically, there is just the difference of what type of work and how crappy it is. I love psych personally, and its nice that I wont be wanting of too much when I (eventually) do get to a fully paid position. What I really couldn't stand would be being a PCP who works long hours and gets paid hardly anything (in relation to what specialties make) while doing a huge amount of the grunt work required in medicine. That also brings me to one of my pet peves: why are pediatricians the lowest paid specialty? Why the heck is that? It makes me so frustrated, I just don't have the words to express it! I would think that that specialty in particular deserves a higher wage. Of course, most of it comes down to how insurance chooses to compensate services. OH AND DONT GET ME STARTED ON INSURANCE COMPANIES!! +pissed+ RARRRGGH!!! HULK SMASH!! *turns into hulk, ripping shirt off, and destroys insurance company ceo's house and fleet of exotic cars in frustration over screwed up system* Wow. Um...that's a little embarassing...got some pent-up rage going on there...I guess.


*edited for dramatic effect*
 
luft said:
I figure that as an MD, any specialty I go into will put me in the upper class automatically, there is just the difference of what type of work and how crappy it is. I love psych personally, and its nice that I wont be wanting of too much when I (eventually) do get to a fully paid position. What I really couldn't stand would be being a PCP who works long hours and gets paid hardly anything (in relation to what specialties make) while doing a huge amount of the grunt work required in medicine. That also brings me to one of my pet peves: why are pediatricians the lowest paid specialty? Why the heck is that? It makes me so frustrated, I just don't have the words to express it! I would think that that specialty in particular deserves a higher wage. Of course, most of it comes down to how insurance chooses to compensate services. OH AND DONT GET ME STARTED ON INSURANCE COMPANIES!! +pissed+ RARRRGGH!!! HULK SMASH!! *turns into hulk, ripping shirt off, and destroys insurance company ceo's house and fleet of exotic cars in frustration over screwed up system* Wow. Um...that's a little embarassing...got some pent-up rage going on there...I guess.


*edited for dramatic effect*

Oh she's cute, I say we keep her since shes got character and spunk!
 
Poety said:
Oh she's cute, I say we keep her since shes got character and spunk!


ehem...well now, she DID destroy that fleet of exotic cars...that's a no no.
 
Poety said:
Oh she's cute, I say we keep her since shes got character and spunk!
Topless Shehulk? 😱
 
Hey Tri and Solid, she also tells good stories, did ya read her bizarre psych story thread? Shes a keeper, I'm voting on it now <presses ballot button>
 
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