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It happens to a number of us every year – we spend tons of time, money, and energy applying and obsessing over getting into dental school only to be rejected from every school. It’s a fact of life that there are more people applying than there are seats, so somebody has to be rejected in this game of musical dental chairs. But for those that experience it the question usually comes up at some point, “Why did I get rejected when that loser from my Ochem lab who can’t even tie his shoes right managed to get in?” Well, here’s my experience dealing with this not just once, but three times:

I started my undergrad in the fall of 2004 with the idea that I would apply to dental school, but I wasn’t completely sure if that’s what I wanted. I took a few science courses and began exploring the profession. It didn’t take long before I knew that dentistry was for me. But knowing this didn’t make the classes any easier, especially having to work full-time to support my family. My grades weren’t bad – I passed all of my classes – but I wasn’t getting a lot of A’s in the prereq classes. Shadowing and volunteer work filled my free time as I tried to round out my application.

In the summer of 2007 I applied and took the DAT for the first time. But I wasn’t nearly ready for either. I hadn’t put a lot of time into studying for the DAT, reasoning that since I had been taking courses full-time that most of the material would be fresh and thinking that the test couldn’t be that difficult. Wrong! I walked out of the testing center with a 17TS/18AA and only a slight hope that I might get a late interview and a possible seat somewhere. I did get a late interview, but it didn’t go well. So, that was it – a poor DAT score and 13 rejections for my first cycle.

Summer 2008 began my second attempt at both applying and the DAT. I signed up for a DAT prep course and put in more effort, especially in the chemistry areas. We were a bit more careful in selecting schools, eventually choosing 12. I applied early to ensure an early review before the competition from late applicants. The DAT improved, but not by much. Essentially, I scored the same in everything except my chemistry scores each went up 3 points, so I finished with a 19TS/19AA. When I got an early interview I felt like things were going to work out this cycle. Turns out it would be my only interview and I would be put on the waitlist – one of those situations where everyone who interviews makes up the waitlist. But I held out hope that I might get in at the last minute. I finished my undergrad in December 2008 and began working a new job the next month.

When summer 2009 started I told my wife that I wouldn’t be applying the next cycle. I reasoned that there was still hope since we were on the waitlist at a school and I hadn’t really done much to improve my application in the previous months. When the rejection finally happened a few months later I was devastated that I had failed again. I decided to give up on dentistry. I hated my job, but I continued working there and got a second job to help recover the expenses from two years applying. I looked at a number of different careers and even tried to start my own business, but nothing felt right. Nothing filled the void inside from being a failure at my dream career.

I floundered in a state of depression for nearly a year, but I am very fortunate to have a loving and supportive wife. She was very patient and encouraging for me to try again, and, in the summer of 2010 I finally decided to give it another try. And this time I would do it right. I returned to school for a year of postbac work and continued to work full-time in the evenings. I retook some courses along with some other courses I had avoided taking during my undergrad. I filled the rest of my schedule with upper level sciences. It wasn’t easy, but I still fit in time for shadowing and volunteering. I didn’t see my family much during that year, but I managed to get A’s in all of courses except one, which was an A-. During that year I also decided to apply to a master’s program instead of doing another year of postbac work. At the last minute a friend talked me into applying to a new, local dental school. So, I put together my third application in a matter of 4 days with all new letters of recommendation for the February 1 deadline. You guessed it – I didn’t get in there either. But I counted the experience as an opportunity to organize my application for the upcoming cycle, which was my original goal. I was accepted into a master’s program, however.

The summer of 2011 was a busy one. Not only was I doing research in the master’s program, but I was studying for a third attempt at the DAT at least 30 hours a week, working part-time, and applying for a fourth time. We carefully chose 10 schools for this cycle. On June 1 I made sure that my application was complete, submitted, and that my transcripts were put in the mail. I was fortunate to be in the first batch mailed out this time. I studied with a friend who was also reapplying and retaking the DAT. We pooled our study resources and knowledge and I put in everything I had to make sure this last attempt would be the best by far. Considering my past experience, I set a pretty lofty goal of a 25AA. The week of the DAT I began to worry, as I took a full-length practice test each day that week and I scored a 21AA on each test. Based on my past experience I didn’t think a 21AA would do that much for my application. Luckily, the real DAT was easier than those practice tests and I scored a 22TS/23AA. I was initially disappointed that I hadn’t reached my 25AA goal, but that disappointment soon faded when I realized that I had scored a 23AA! I knew deep down inside that this time I was going to get accepted.

The next week I began faxing my DAT scores to the schools. The very next day I got my first interview invite and I knew that this was the year for me! But by the time I interviewed in late September I hadn’t heard anything from other schools and I began to doubt. I had done this before, the early interview followed by months of silence only to be rejected by everyone. But in early October it finally happened – a second interview! On December 1 I waited eagerly for an acceptance from one of the two schools, but it never came. I was kind of sad that I would never know the thrill of an acceptance on December 1, but I was still hopeful. Then the rejections began coming in and I wasn’t getting any more interviews. By the end of January I had received four rejections to go along with my two interviews. The only thing I could do was hope for more interviews, but I knew my chances were slim.

But it happened! I received an interview in February and another in late March. After the interviews were complete I expected to have to wait well into the summer for a possible acceptance. The day after I returned from my March interview I got the unexpected – an acceptance call! It was unreal and I was so happy that all of the work we had put into my application had finally paid off. I received my acceptance packet, filled it all out, and put my deposit in the mail. That was last Wednesday. I was satisfied and completely content. On Thursday I was accepted to two more schools, one of the two being my top choice! Luckily, I was able to cancel the check I put in the mail the day before. And here I am now, with three acceptances from four interviews this cycle and preparing to move across the country to start dental school. I finally belong in dentistry!

For those of you applying now and those of you who don’t get in your first time applying: learn from my mistakes. Put in the work early and often. Guard your GPA closely and make the DAT count the first time you take it. If you don’t get in your first time then don’t just reapply because that’s what everyone wants you to do. Make sure that you have actually improved your application. Otherwise you are wasting time and money. If you really want to be a part of dentistry, then the effort it takes to get into dental school will be well worth it. I hope nobody else has to endure what I did to get to dental school, but it will surely happen if you don’t understand what it takes and aren’t willing to give it your best. In hindsight I can see that I wasn’t ready for dental school the first two times I applied and I am glad that I was not accepted, but at the time I couldn’t see it.

If at first you don’t succeed, try, try again…..and again, and again, and again if necessary!
 
It happens to a number of us every year – we spend tons of time, money, and energy applying and obsessing over getting into dental school only to be rejected from every school. It’s a fact of life that there are more people applying than there are seats, so somebody has to be rejected in this game of musical dental chairs. But for those that experience it the question usually comes up at some point, “Why did I get rejected when that loser from my Ochem lab who can’t even tie his shoes right managed to get in?” Well, here’s my experience dealing with this not just once, but three times:

I started my undergrad in the fall of 2004 with the idea that I would apply to dental school, but I wasn’t completely sure if that’s what I wanted. I took a few science courses and began exploring the profession. It didn’t take long before I knew that dentistry was for me. But knowing this didn’t make the classes any easier, especially having to work full-time to support my family. My grades weren’t bad – I passed all of my classes – but I wasn’t getting a lot of A’s in the prereq classes. Shadowing and volunteer work filled my free time as I tried to round out my application.

In the summer of 2007 I applied and took the DAT for the first time. But I wasn’t nearly ready for either. I hadn’t put a lot of time into studying for the DAT, reasoning that since I had been taking courses full-time that most of the material would be fresh and thinking that the test couldn’t be that difficult. Wrong! I walked out of the testing center with a 17TS/18AA and only a slight hope that I might get a late interview and a possible seat somewhere. I did get a late interview, but it didn’t go well. So, that was it – a poor DAT score and 13 rejections for my first cycle.

Summer 2008 began my second attempt at both applying and the DAT. I signed up for a DAT prep course and put in more effort, especially in the chemistry areas. We were a bit more careful in selecting schools, eventually choosing 12. I applied early to ensure an early review before the competition from late applicants. The DAT improved, but not by much. Essentially, I scored the same in everything except my chemistry scores each went up 3 points, so I finished with a 19TS/19AA. When I got an early interview I felt like things were going to work out this cycle. Turns out it would be my only interview and I would be put on the waitlist – one of those situations where everyone who interviews makes up the waitlist. But I held out hope that I might get in at the last minute. I finished my undergrad in December 2008 and began working a new job the next month.

When summer 2009 started I told my wife that I wouldn’t be applying the next cycle. I reasoned that there was still hope since we were on the waitlist at a school and I hadn’t really done much to improve my application in the previous months. When the rejection finally happened a few months later I was devastated that I had failed again. I decided to give up on dentistry. I hated my job, but I continued working there and got a second job to help recover the expenses from two years applying. I looked at a number of different careers and even tried to start my own business, but nothing felt right. Nothing filled the void inside from being a failure at my dream career.

I floundered in a state of depression for nearly a year, but I am very fortunate to have a loving and supportive wife. She was very patient and encouraging for me to try again, and, in the summer of 2010 I finally decided to give it another try. And this time I would do it right. I returned to school for a year of postbac work and continued to work full-time in the evenings. I retook some courses along with some other courses I had avoided taking during my undergrad. I filled the rest of my schedule with upper level sciences. It wasn’t easy, but I still fit in time for shadowing and volunteering. I didn’t see my family much during that year, but I managed to get A’s in all of courses except one, which was an A-. During that year I also decided to apply to a master’s program instead of doing another year of postbac work. At the last minute a friend talked me into applying to a new, local dental school. So, I put together my third application in a matter of 4 days with all new letters of recommendation for the February 1 deadline. You guessed it – I didn’t get in there either. But I counted the experience as an opportunity to organize my application for the upcoming cycle, which was my original goal. I was accepted into a master’s program, however.

The summer of 2011 was a busy one. Not only was I doing research in the master’s program, but I was studying for a third attempt at the DAT at least 30 hours a week, working part-time, and applying for a fourth time. We carefully chose 10 schools for this cycle. On June 1 I made sure that my application was complete, submitted, and that my transcripts were put in the mail. I was fortunate to be in the first batch mailed out this time. I studied with a friend who was also reapplying and retaking the DAT. We pooled our study resources and knowledge and I put in everything I had to make sure this last attempt would be the best by far. Considering my past experience, I set a pretty lofty goal of a 25AA. The week of the DAT I began to worry, as I took a full-length practice test each day that week and I scored a 21AA on each test. Based on my past experience I didn’t think a 21AA would do that much for my application. Luckily, the real DAT was easier than those practice tests and I scored a 22TS/23AA. I was initially disappointed that I hadn’t reached my 25AA goal, but that disappointment soon faded when I realized that I had scored a 23AA! I knew deep down inside that this time I was going to get accepted.

The next week I began faxing my DAT scores to the schools. The very next day I got my first interview invite and I knew that this was the year for me! But by the time I interviewed in late September I hadn’t heard anything from other schools and I began to doubt. I had done this before, the early interview followed by months of silence only to be rejected by everyone. But in early October it finally happened – a second interview! On December 1 I waited eagerly for an acceptance from one of the two schools, but it never came. I was kind of sad that I would never know the thrill of an acceptance on December 1, but I was still hopeful. Then the rejections began coming in and I wasn’t getting any more interviews. By the end of January I had received four rejections to go along with my two interviews. The only thing I could do was hope for more interviews, but I knew my chances were slim.

But it happened! I received an interview in February and another in late March. After the interviews were complete I expected to have to wait well into the summer for a possible acceptance. The day after I returned from my March interview I got the unexpected – an acceptance call! It was unreal and I was so happy that all of the work we had put into my application had finally paid off. I received my acceptance packet, filled it all out, and put my deposit in the mail. That was last Wednesday. I was satisfied and completely content. On Thursday I was accepted to two more schools, one of the two being my top choice! Luckily, I was able to cancel the check I put in the mail the day before. And here I am now, with three acceptances from four interviews this cycle and preparing to move across the country to start dental school. I finally belong in dentistry!

For those of you applying now and those of you who don’t get in your first time applying: learn from my mistakes. Put in the work early and often. Guard your GPA closely and make the DAT count the first time you take it. If you don’t get in your first time then don’t just reapply because that’s what everyone wants you to do. Make sure that you have actually improved your application. Otherwise you are wasting time and money. If you really want to be a part of dentistry, then the effort it takes to get into dental school will be well worth it. I hope nobody else has to endure what I did to get to dental school, but it will surely happen if you don’t understand what it takes and aren’t willing to give it your best. In hindsight I can see that I wasn’t ready for dental school the first two times I applied and I am glad that I was not accepted, but at the time I couldn’t see it.

If at first you don’t succeed, try, try again…..and again, and again, and again if necessary!

Congratulations! I'm glad all your hard work paid off. 👍
 
It happens to a number of us every year – we spend tons of time, money, and energy applying and obsessing over getting into dental school only to be rejected from every school. It’s a fact of life that there are more people applying than there are seats, so somebody has to be rejected in this game of musical dental chairs. But for those that experience it the question usually comes up at some point, “Why did I get rejected when that loser from my Ochem lab who can’t even tie his shoes right managed to get in?” Well, here’s my experience dealing with this not just once, but three times:

I started my undergrad in the fall of 2004 with the idea that I would apply to dental school, but I wasn’t completely sure if that’s what I wanted. I took a few science courses and began exploring the profession. It didn’t take long before I knew that dentistry was for me. But knowing this didn’t make the classes any easier, especially having to work full-time to support my family. My grades weren’t bad – I passed all of my classes – but I wasn’t getting a lot of A’s in the prereq classes. Shadowing and volunteer work filled my free time as I tried to round out my application.

In the summer of 2007 I applied and took the DAT for the first time. But I wasn’t nearly ready for either. I hadn’t put a lot of time into studying for the DAT, reasoning that since I had been taking courses full-time that most of the material would be fresh and thinking that the test couldn’t be that difficult. Wrong! I walked out of the testing center with a 17TS/18AA and only a slight hope that I might get a late interview and a possible seat somewhere. I did get a late interview, but it didn’t go well. So, that was it – a poor DAT score and 13 rejections for my first cycle.

Summer 2008 began my second attempt at both applying and the DAT. I signed up for a DAT prep course and put in more effort, especially in the chemistry areas. We were a bit more careful in selecting schools, eventually choosing 12. I applied early to ensure an early review before the competition from late applicants. The DAT improved, but not by much. Essentially, I scored the same in everything except my chemistry scores each went up 3 points, so I finished with a 19TS/19AA. When I got an early interview I felt like things were going to work out this cycle. Turns out it would be my only interview and I would be put on the waitlist – one of those situations where everyone who interviews makes up the waitlist. But I held out hope that I might get in at the last minute. I finished my undergrad in December 2008 and began working a new job the next month.

When summer 2009 started I told my wife that I wouldn’t be applying the next cycle. I reasoned that there was still hope since we were on the waitlist at a school and I hadn’t really done much to improve my application in the previous months. When the rejection finally happened a few months later I was devastated that I had failed again. I decided to give up on dentistry. I hated my job, but I continued working there and got a second job to help recover the expenses from two years applying. I looked at a number of different careers and even tried to start my own business, but nothing felt right. Nothing filled the void inside from being a failure at my dream career.

I floundered in a state of depression for nearly a year, but I am very fortunate to have a loving and supportive wife. She was very patient and encouraging for me to try again, and, in the summer of 2010 I finally decided to give it another try. And this time I would do it right. I returned to school for a year of postbac work and continued to work full-time in the evenings. I retook some courses along with some other courses I had avoided taking during my undergrad. I filled the rest of my schedule with upper level sciences. It wasn’t easy, but I still fit in time for shadowing and volunteering. I didn’t see my family much during that year, but I managed to get A’s in all of courses except one, which was an A-. During that year I also decided to apply to a master’s program instead of doing another year of postbac work. At the last minute a friend talked me into applying to a new, local dental school. So, I put together my third application in a matter of 4 days with all new letters of recommendation for the February 1 deadline. You guessed it – I didn’t get in there either. But I counted the experience as an opportunity to organize my application for the upcoming cycle, which was my original goal. I was accepted into a master’s program, however.

The summer of 2011 was a busy one. Not only was I doing research in the master’s program, but I was studying for a third attempt at the DAT at least 30 hours a week, working part-time, and applying for a fourth time. We carefully chose 10 schools for this cycle. On June 1 I made sure that my application was complete, submitted, and that my transcripts were put in the mail. I was fortunate to be in the first batch mailed out this time. I studied with a friend who was also reapplying and retaking the DAT. We pooled our study resources and knowledge and I put in everything I had to make sure this last attempt would be the best by far. Considering my past experience, I set a pretty lofty goal of a 25AA. The week of the DAT I began to worry, as I took a full-length practice test each day that week and I scored a 21AA on each test. Based on my past experience I didn’t think a 21AA would do that much for my application. Luckily, the real DAT was easier than those practice tests and I scored a 22TS/23AA. I was initially disappointed that I hadn’t reached my 25AA goal, but that disappointment soon faded when I realized that I had scored a 23AA! I knew deep down inside that this time I was going to get accepted.

The next week I began faxing my DAT scores to the schools. The very next day I got my first interview invite and I knew that this was the year for me! But by the time I interviewed in late September I hadn’t heard anything from other schools and I began to doubt. I had done this before, the early interview followed by months of silence only to be rejected by everyone. But in early October it finally happened – a second interview! On December 1 I waited eagerly for an acceptance from one of the two schools, but it never came. I was kind of sad that I would never know the thrill of an acceptance on December 1, but I was still hopeful. Then the rejections began coming in and I wasn’t getting any more interviews. By the end of January I had received four rejections to go along with my two interviews. The only thing I could do was hope for more interviews, but I knew my chances were slim.

But it happened! I received an interview in February and another in late March. After the interviews were complete I expected to have to wait well into the summer for a possible acceptance. The day after I returned from my March interview I got the unexpected – an acceptance call! It was unreal and I was so happy that all of the work we had put into my application had finally paid off. I received my acceptance packet, filled it all out, and put my deposit in the mail. That was last Wednesday. I was satisfied and completely content. On Thursday I was accepted to two more schools, one of the two being my top choice! Luckily, I was able to cancel the check I put in the mail the day before. And here I am now, with three acceptances from four interviews this cycle and preparing to move across the country to start dental school. I finally belong in dentistry!

For those of you applying now and those of you who don’t get in your first time applying: learn from my mistakes. Put in the work early and often. Guard your GPA closely and make the DAT count the first time you take it. If you don’t get in your first time then don’t just reapply because that’s what everyone wants you to do. Make sure that you have actually improved your application. Otherwise you are wasting time and money. If you really want to be a part of dentistry, then the effort it takes to get into dental school will be well worth it. I hope nobody else has to endure what I did to get to dental school, but it will surely happen if you don’t understand what it takes and aren’t willing to give it your best. In hindsight I can see that I wasn’t ready for dental school the first two times I applied and I am glad that I was not accepted, but at the time I couldn’t see it.

If at first you don’t succeed, try, try again…..and again, and again, and again if necessary!
Very wonderful and motivating story, Congrats!
 
Wow. Such an inspirational story. You're meant to be a dentist!! Congrats 🙂
 
Just to let you know, it was very inspiring to read this. Thanks a lot. It helps to know how much work and sacrifice it actually takes. I'm happy for you.
 
It happens to a number of us every year – we spend tons of time, money, and energy applying and obsessing over getting into dental school only to be rejected from every school. It’s a fact of life that there are more people applying than there are seats, so somebody has to be rejected in this game of musical dental chairs. But for those that experience it the question usually comes up at some point, “Why did I get rejected when that loser from my Ochem lab who can’t even tie his shoes right managed to get in?” Well, here’s my experience dealing with this not just once, but three times:

Congratulations on getting accepted, but don't insult the kid who got in before you. He obviously was a better applicant than you and got accepted (at that time). Sorry, I just hate it when people say stuff like that.
 
Congratulations on getting accepted, but don't insult the kid who got in before you. He obviously was a better applicant than you and got accepted (at that time). Sorry, I just hate it when people say stuff like that.

Not necessarily. It's not about what you know, but who you know 😉
 
Congratulations on getting accepted, but don't insult the kid who got in before you. He obviously was a better applicant than you and got accepted (at that time). Sorry, I just hate it when people say stuff like that.

i'm sorry if this offends you or anyone else. it wasn't intended to offend. but for those who have been through this situation it is a never ending mind game comparing yourself to others who, in your own opinion, are less qualified candidates than yourself. it's all arbitrary, of course, because we aren't qualified to judge who is a good applicant to dental school and who isn't. we just hope that we are good enough to fill a seat somewhere.
 
congrats! very inspiring. I too had some obstacles to overcome to get to where we are now. Wish you the best luck in dental school!


DREAMS ARE WORTH FIGHTING FOR!
 
Sounds ALOT like my story...awesome job! It feels sooo good and surreal to get accepted doesn't it! Congrats!
 
Congrats and you probably appreciate it more now than you would have if you got in by putting less effort in.
 
Congrats! Very inspiring. Wishing you all the best in dental school.
 
When it rains, it pours! Congrats on your success, wish you the best of luck🙂
 
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
 
Very inspiring story and I really enjoyed reading it. Congrats on getting accepted! Very well deserved!! 🙂
 
That is one of the most inspiring stories I have read on these forums. I hope this serves to motivate others in a similar situation to not give up on their dreams. It is hard enough to be a competitive applicant, but to do so while holding down full time employment takes a tremendous amount of willpower. I am glad some of the schools finally got to see just how motivated and driven you were in pursuing dentistry. Big congrats on your acceptances.

On a side note, I noticed the huge difference of response from schools when you went from a 19AA to 23AA. It may not be fair but a lot of schools didn't even give you a chance to show how motivated you are towards dentistry until your DAT scores interested them. For applicants with a lower DAT score, I am sure putting in your full and undivided attention into raising this little number will do more for your application than just about anything else.
 
Congrat's on your perseverance! It paid off big time..
 
That is one of the most inspiring stories I have read on these forums. I hope this serves to motivate others in a similar situation to not give up on their dreams. It is hard enough to be a competitive applicant, but to do so while holding down full time employment takes a tremendous amount of willpower. I am glad some of the schools finally got to see just how motivated and driven you were in pursuing dentistry. Big congrats on your acceptances.

On a side note, I noticed the huge difference of response from schools when you went from a 19AA to 23AA. It may not be fair but a lot of schools didn't even give you a chance to show how motivated you are towards dentistry until your DAT scores interested them. For applicants with a lower DAT score, I am sure putting in your full and undivided attention into raising this little number will do more for your application than just about anything else.

+1 👍
 
Thanks for sharing! While reading I was amazed at how similar our stories are (minus the masters program). What was not mentioned was the toll this long process takes on your poor wife. I was pretty dang excited to get that call but not nearly as much as my wife!! As someone also mentioned, DAT score is absolutely the most important part of an application. It is well worth the requisite time and attention. Congrats!!
 
I like how much effort you've put into the application! I am an incoming undergrad and am already worried about doing well on the DAT but your post inspired me a bit. Congratulations on your acceptances! If you don't mind, which college did you attend and did you take the DAT 3 times?
 
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I like how much effort you've put into the application! I am an incoming undergrad and am already worried about doing well on the DAT but your post inspired me a bit. Congratulations on your acceptances! If you don't mind, which college did you attend and did you take the DAT 3 times?

for my undergrad and masters work i attended BYU and for my postbac work i attended UVU. yes, i did take the DAT 3 times. not fun. as people above have mentioned, your DAT score is one of the most important numbers on your application because it puts your GPA into perspective with other applicants. it shows how well you really understood the material because there is a big difference in comprehension between a 18AA and a 23AA (i'm speaking from experience here, because i understand the material so much better now than i did 5 years ago when i first took it).
 
DAT is huge...especially for people with a "meh" GPA (like me). I'm really glad your perseverance landed you where you are today. Congrats!
 
What an inspirational story, it must feel great getting accepted, knowing every single step you took was eventually worth it. This might be a little personal but I was wondering what your gpa's were every cycle?
 
Not necessarily. It's not about what you know, but who you know 😉

yea...i know 2 ppl who just got into dental school and have amazing grades....but are very incompetent ppl...when group studying with them all I did was answer their questions, and they really did contribute to the study at all. In fact studying was more like "hey, I can't figure this out by myself, but since we are study buddies I will use you to answer all my questions." I swear this dude could not decide anything for himself. He also would not do anything unless someone else came with him...(the worst one was buying a hat, he really wanted a buddy to go with him to buy a hat. No one wanted to go with him, and he ended up not going..)

those ppl make me wonder... how does he have such good grades when they are always asking ppl to figure things out for them....and how will that play out when they are out in the real world?...
 
yea...i know 2 ppl who just got into dental school and have amazing grades....but are very incompetent ppl...when group studying with them all I did was answer their questions, and they really did contribute to the study at all. In fact studying was more like "hey, I can't figure this out by myself, but since we are study buddies I will use you to answer all my questions." I swear this dude could not decide anything for himself. He also would not do anything unless someone else came with him...(the worst one was buying a hat, he really wanted a buddy to go with him to buy a hat. No one wanted to go with him, and he ended up not going..)

those ppl make me wonder... how does he have such good grades when they are always asking ppl to figure things out for them....and how will that play out when they are out in the real world?...

I mean I think his main problem is being indecisive and just seems insecure, however I'm the same way I guess that doesn't make me as independent as I would like, but I like others to teach me the material before I go through the textbook, but when i learn something it seems to stick and I can almost play a video of that said person teaching me the subject in my head. The difference is when I learn something I do contribute when others ask questions it just might not be at that first study group. Point is don't worry about what others are going through, even if they get in with luck, the coursework will weed them out if they weren't adequately prepared for it
 
I have this thread saved to read in times of despair...I hope my story ends up like this. I am two application cycles in, two interviews done, and still not accepted. Each year I am improving my application, and I hope next year is the one that counts...I'm also applying for a masters program. All this hasn't been easy, but I know it will be worth it. Thanks again for such an encouraging post.
 
This is a great story of perseverance.. However, it scares me... I really am hoping not to, but I may have to start the reapplying process for next year. 🙁.
 
Congrats. Bottom line always seems to hold true -- work hard and you'll get what you want. 🙂
 
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