If LUCOM is your only option...

[deleted158872]

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... would you attend? Why or why not?

What i'm afraid of is that they incorporate religious viewpoints into the medical teaching curriculum and that'd be terrible. Any students from this school can give me an honest opinion on this school's teaching quality?

 

[touchpause13]

This has been covered a million times, but no because I know I could not follow the rules.

 

[BorntobeDO?]

At first I was like , but then

Yes, of course, if your option is LUCOM or nothing, you take LUCOM. Lots of people here don't like their polical affliations(and some dont like the religious affiliation either), but at the end of the day that has more to do with the undergrad than the DO school. The actual campus is beautiful and the students were nice when I went. I think even if I was a card carrying LBGT rainbow wearing weed smoking Hillary-loving athiest democrat from California, I would keep it to myself and put my head down and get er done if they were my only acceptance.

Dont drink, no drugs, dont live with your boyfriend/girlfriend, avoid controversy, enjoy the nice view. I am sure some actual LUCOM students will be here in a bit.

I guess this question is really: How bad do you actually want to become a physician?

 

[deleted390966]

dont live with your boyfriend/girlfriend, avoid controversy, enjoy the nice view.

This is ridiculous 😵 How the heck would they know if you lived with your partner anyway?
"Avoid controversy" probably means you'd have to disable your FB or go by nickname on FB 🙄
I visited LUCOM website. It seems that this is a horrible school that discourages free thinking and rationality - two qualities that I think are very important in Medicine.

 

[BorntobeDO?]

This is ridiculous 😵 How the heck would they know if you lived with your partner anyway?
"Avoid controversy" probably means you'd have to disable your FB or go by nickname on FB 🙄
I visited LUCOM website. It seems that this is a horrible school that discourages free thinking and rationality - two qualities that I think are very important in Medicine.

Avoid controversy = get along with all faculty, and dont do anything that might be questionable.

Yes I dont exactly think LUCOM is completely open minded towards every viewpoint, but it doesn't matter if they are your only option you make it work.

This thread is interesting because I can see how difficult it must be to even think about going to this school as LGBT, in particular. You know the lifestyle isn't compatible, and yet you want to be a doctor. I agree that's a hard decision, for basically any of the others I don't think its as tough. Disagreeing with their politics wont hurt you, even disagreeing with their religion (i.e. being atheist) isn't as big a deal, they will tolerate that. But the whole LBGT seems like it violates their COC if you are active. So that's a much harder one to put aside.

 

[Lennon1967]

Honestly, I'd rather work at Burger King for the rest of my life than attend LUCOM. They can't watch R-rated movies, can't drink, can't have sex, and they're forced to go to Ted Cruz political rallies (not sure if COM students have to do this last one, but it doesn't really matter). No thanks.

 

[deleted158872]

I wish it were simply a matter of politics and viewpoints, though... What i'm afraid of is that they incorporate religious viewpoints into the medical teaching curriculum and that'd be terrible. Any students from this school can give me an honest opinion on this school's teaching quality?

 

[touchpause13]

Avoid controversy = get along with all faculty, and dont do anything that might be questionable.

Yes I dont exactly think LUCOM is completely open minded towards every viewpoint, but it doesnt matter if they are your only option you make it work.

This thread is interesting because I can see how difficult it must be to even think about going to this school as LGBT, in particular. You know the lifestyle isnt compatable, and yet you want to be a doctor. I agree thats a hard decision, for basically any of the others I dont think ts as tough. Disagreeing with their politics wont hurt you, even disagreeing with thier religion (i.e. being athiest) isnt as big a deal, they will tolerate that. But the whole LBGT seems like it violates their COC if you are active. So thats a much harder one to put aside.

I just know that would be impossible to me. I can't go into an environment that is hostile towards the gay community and NOT put on my activist hat. I would feel like I was selling my soul to the devil so to speak. I wouldn't be willing to compromise my own integrity even if that was my only way of being a physician. There are just some things I'm not willing to do, and being in the closet is one of those things - I'm too old for that now, and attempting to do so would probably give me a freakin ulcer.

 

[touchpause13]

I wish it were simply a matter of politics and viewpoints, though... What i'm afraid of is that they incorporate religious viewpoints into the medical teaching curriculum and that'd be terrible. Any students from this school can give me an honest opinion on this school's teaching quality?

You aren't going to get an unbiased opinion from any of the students, at least all the ones that post here almost seem to be coached from the administration to only speak good about their school - obviously I don't know that for a fact or anything, it's just what they come off as.
The one thing that has been brought up multiple times is that they do teach that sex during menstruation can cause endometrosis, which isn't accurate.

 

[BorntobeDO?]

I wish it were simply a matter of politics and viewpoints, though... What i'm afraid of is that they incorporate religious viewpoints into the medical teaching curriculum and that'd be terrible. Any students from this school can give me an honest opinion on this school's teaching quality?

Read the handbook, and the academic catalog. Their curriculum is actually a nice modern style one (spiral TBL hybrid). Now the only thing where you might see some religious influence is reproductive from what I have seen. (The whole no sex during a period thing/retrograde menstration). I am assuming you already searched out LUCOM threads, but I posted more complete thoughts in my LUCOM vs. LMU one.

I just know that would be impossible to me. I can't go into an environment that is hostile towards the gay community and NOT put on my activist hat. I would feel like I was selling my soul to the devil so to speak. I wouldn't be willing to compromise my own integrity even if that was my only way of being a physician. There are just some things I'm not willing to do, and being in the closet is one of those things - I'm too old for that now, and attempting to do so would probably give me a freakin ulcer.

This is being honest with yourself and I can appreciate that. Its a valid decision.

 

[Dr.Jekyll75]

If you feel that the environment was hostile when you went for the interview, don't go. It will be to your benefit to reapply next cycle

 

[s5260205]

I would not have applied to LUCOM in the first place unless I knew for sure I could be okay with attending this school.

 

[BorntobeDO?]

I wish it were simply a matter of politics and viewpoints, though... What i'm afraid of is that they incorporate religious viewpoints into the medical teaching curriculum and that'd be terrible. Any students from this school can give me an honest opinion on this school's teaching quality?

I would wager dollars to donuts that the amount of 'religious medical teaching' that is actually tested is way less than 1%. The boards don't change just cause your Christian. Furthermore, the dean of LUCOM may not be liked by some, but he did help RVU get the highest first time pass rate ever. But again, all of this is more dependant on you. They are not the best DO school ever, but they will give you the tools to succeed.

 

[BorntobeDO?]

If you feel that the environment was hostile when you went for the interview, don't go. It will be to your benefit to reapply next cycle

What? Reapply after an acceptance, it absolutely is not to his/her benefit to do that. It makes it much harder.

If his/her disagreement isnt over lifestlye/politics then this is a real easy decision IMO.

 

[gonnif]

... would you attend? Why or why not?

My question would be why would you apply to school in the first place that you may not be willing to attend.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

I would not have applied to LUCOM in the first place unless I knew for sure I could be okay with attending this school.

One of the things I learned applying is that this is true. And also that sometimes you apply to schools that you only later find out aren't good fits.

You don't want to end up in a position in July where you're choosing between taking a year off and attending a school that you don't think you'll be happy at.

 

[touchpause13]

My question would be why would you apply to school in the first place that you may not be willing to attend.

You may think you would be willing to attend, but when you get to the interview you may find it incompatible with your life. In that case I would suggest pulling your application before they make a decision, then you avoid the whole "have you been accepted at a medical school before thing"

 

[asdf123g]

You aren't going to get an unbiased opinion from any of the students, at least all the ones that post here almost seem to be coached from the administration to only speak good about their school - obviously I don't know that for a fact or anything, it's just what they come off as.
The one thing that has been brought up multiple times is that they do teach that sex during menstruation can cause endometrosis, which isn't accurate.

lulz

 

[BorntobeDO?]

You may think you would be willing to attend, but when you get to the interview you may find it incompatible with your life. In that case I would suggest pulling your application before they make a decision, then you avoid the whole "have you been accepted at a medical school before thing"

I agree, unfortunately this isn't an option for the OP. I think if OP wants to go DO ever, this is the opportunity. Its upto you whether you take it.

The only way I could see turning it down is if you have like >4 waitlists to other DO programs. Otherwise, I just wouldn't do it.

 

[Goro]

*sigh*
1) Use the search function here.
2) Ask one of the current students to get you the Student Handbook
2b) better yet, posy your inquiry in the LUCOM forum and query the current students.
3) Make your decision

 

[BorntobeDO?]

*sigh*
1) Use the search function here.
2) Ask one of the current students to get you the Student Handbook
2b) better yet, posy your inquiry in the LUCOM forum and query the current students.
3) Make your decision

Would you take a reapp Goro at your school if they rejected LUCOM?

Btw, you can see the handbook if you are accepted, its in the login. I downloaded it and the catalog and read them.

 

[Goro]

Well, the avg stats at LUCOM are a lot lower than at my school, so a successful LUCOM applicant or acceptee might be autorejected at my school, or rejected after concerns about GPA and/or MCAT.

BUT, if someone turned down an acceptance at LUCOM, and had the stats for my school, and impressed me at interviews, I'd say "fine, take this kid" to our wily old Admissions dean.

So are the sanctions at LUCOM the same as for the UG school? For example, are the med students specifically prohibited from cohabitating with the opposite gender? Sanctions for gay students? Mere drinking of alcohol, as opposed to being drunk, or having an alcohol problem?

Would you take a reapp Goro at your school if they rejected LUCOM?

Btw, you can see the handbook if you are accepted, its in the login. I downloaded it and the catalog and read them.

 

[BorntobeDO?]

Well, the avg stats at LUCOM are a lot lower than at my school, so a successful LUCOM applicant or acceptee might be autorejected at my school, or rejected after concerns about GPA and/or MCAT.

BUT, if someone turned down an acceptance at LUCOM, and had the stats for my school, and impressed me at interviews, I'd say "fine, take this kid" to our wily old Admissions dean.

So are the sanctions at LUCOM the same as for the UG school? For example, are the med students specifically prohibited from cohabitating with the opposite gender? Sanctions for gay students? Mere drinking of alcohol, as opposed to being drunk, or having an alcohol problem?

Will answer this in a bit.

 

[karling]

I would wager dollars to donuts that the amount of 'religious medical teaching' that is actually tested is way less than 1%. The boards don't change just cause your Christian. Furthermore, the dean of LUCOM may not be liked by some, but he did help RVU get the highest first time pass rate ever. But again, all of this is more dependant on you. They are not the best DO school ever, but they will give you the tools to succeed.

There have been posts on SDN about a micro professor at LUCOM who teaches creationism in class. Whether it's actually tested or not, I don't care. Creationism is taught in a medical school classroom on a campus that has a creationist museum. This is unacceptable.

Also, Dean Dubin is the person who got RVU that high first time pass rate. Dean Martin was fired before the first class of students finished their first year.

 

[BrooklynBulls]

Dean Martin was fired before the first class of students finished their first year.

He just wouldn't stop hiding Sammy Davis Jr's glass eye. Tragic.

 

[AM508]

He just wouldn't stop hiding Sammy Davis Jr's glass eye. Tragic.

🤣

 

[touchpause13]

He just wouldn't stop hiding Sammy Davis Jr's glass eye. Tragic.

well played

 

[Premedofthesouth]

Will answer this in a bit.

I'd love to hear the answer to this. I'm going to apply to LUCOM this upcoming cycle and although I'd be willing to make the alcohol sacrifice if it was my only acceptance, I'd still like to know what I'm getting into. Having a significant other and not being able to live with them/have them over as a med student would be a huge bummer.

 

[bengx]

LUCOM is a weird school. I had 7 interviews and got accepted by three schools, 2 DOs and 1 MD. I was deferred by LUCOM last year, they wanted me to retake MCAT because my 6 in verbal. I took MCAT only once, and have 13 and 11 in BS and PS, and I got to US when I was 22 and was from East Asia. I know they are taking guys with 23,24,25 in MCAT. I told them the old version January MCAT was already filled up, and the lady told me to take the April new MCAT. What can I say? Maybe they do not care their step 1 scores in two years at all.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

LUCOM is a weird school. I had 7 interviews and got accepted by three schools, 2 DOs and 1 MD. I was deferred by LUCOM last year, they wanted me to retake MCAT because my 6 in verbal. I took MCAT only once, and have 13 and 11 in BS and PS, and I got to US when I was 22 and was from East Asia. I know they are taking guys with 23,24,25 in MCAT. I told them the old version January MCAT was already filled up, and the lady told me to take the April new MCAT. What can I say? Maybe they do not care their step 1 scores in two years at all.

I'm kinda curious what their ethnic and general background composition is like.

 

[Premedofthesouth]

I'm kinda curious what their ethnic and general background composition is like.

I tried to look it up but it's not in their CIB page (http://www.aacom.org/docs/default-source/cib/2015cib_lucom.pdf?sfvrsn=2). I'm hispanic and an atheist, but I doubt I'd have any problems fitting in except with those that are really zealous about religion/pushy about religion.

 

[UTsksk]

In my opinion, if you applied to LUCOM and your only acceptance is LUCOM, you take it! I mean, if you weren't willing to deal with their rules (like LECOM's dress code and food/drink situation), why did you apply? It's only logical to take an acceptance unless there's issues relating to family where you want to be closer to home.

 

[starkinthemidwest]

I'm afraid with my gay marriage and my former curricula in Biochem with professors repeatedly telling me that if evolution wasn't real, I'd need to take individual biochem classes for cats, dogs, people, hippopotamuses, etc. that I probably would not be welcome, even if my stats were good.

Then again, I dunno how well they'd think of my Pastafarianism anyway...

 

[Premedofthesouth]

I'm afraid with my gay marriage and my former curricula in Biochem with professors repeatedly telling me that if evolution wasn't real, I'd need to take individual biochem classes for cats, dogs, people, hippopotamuses, etc. that I probably would not be welcome, even if my stats were good.

I figure it's just a matter of staying cool. I've had interactions with people who have in all seriousness asked me the question "so you actually believe we descended from monkeys?" To which I often reply that I believe we share a common ancestor but everyone has a right to their own opinion and that's just my own. Yes I know it's science and not really an opinion, but I see no point in starting a potential argument with someone over an irrational belief.

 

[touchpause13]

I'm afraid with my gay marriage and my former curricula in Biochem with professors repeatedly telling me that if evolution wasn't real, I'd need to take individual biochem classes for cats, dogs, people, hippopotamuses, etc. that I probably would not be welcome, even if my stats were good.

Then again, I dunno how well they'd think of my Pastafarianism anyway...

 

[NobleGas14]

Two things

1) LUCOM's policies are independent of the ones of Liberty's. It's hilarious that there are so many posters who haven't even been there want to cast shade.

2) If it were your only acceptance you surely would have interviewed there. If it didn't feel like a fit, I doubt it being the only acceptance would change that (imo).


However, this thread will end well 😛opcorn:

 

[touchpause13]

Two things

1) LUCOM's policies are independent of the ones of Liberty's. It's hilarious that there are so many posters who haven't even been there want to cast shade.

2) If it were your only acceptance you surely would have interviewed there. If it didn't feel like a fit, I doubt it being the only acceptance would change that (imo).


However, this thread will end well 😛opcorn:

If you could provide some evidence for #1 that would be great

 

[NobleGas14]

If you could provide some evidence for #1 that would be great

The best I can provide is having interviewed there and hearing from faculty themselves. Now, whether that changes once you become a student? I don't know. However, I doubt a school, even LUCOM, would false advertise something to that degree; if so, there's a whole lot more wrong than politics.


The opinions on SDN are too extreme, on either side. An individual should interview there and get their own understanding/feel. Just my 2 cents

 

[touchpause13]

The best I can provide is having interviewed there and hearing from faculty themselves. Now, whether that changes once you become a student? I don't know. However, I doubt a school, even LUCOM, would false advertise something to that degree; if so, there's a whole lot more wrong than politics.

It's just that their code of conduct isn't available online like every other school which sends up a lot of red flags.

Whether or not the rules are actually that bad for med students, the fact that it is hidden screams deceitfulness to me

 

[j4pac]

It's just that their code of conduct isn't available online like every other school which sends up a lot of red flags.

Whether or not the rules are actually that bad for med students, the fact that it is hidden screams deceitfulness to me

Agreed. That's a red flag in my book (more so than all of their other concerns). If Liberty is going to have a strongly conservative reputation...then at least give prospective applicants an idea of what they are signing up for. I would expect the same if there was a strongly liberal school out there. This is a failure on the part of Liberty. I am also concerned about some of the wording of their code of conduct (which has been posted on this website). Liberty should know that they are going to be under the microscope and clearly word their code of conduct.

In regards to LBGT question...I would have no problem closeting my heterosexuality for four years if it meant the difference of being a physician or not. 🙂

 

[touchpause13]

Agreed. That's a red flag in my book (more so than all of their other concerns). If Liberty is going to have a strongly conservative reputation...then at least give prospective applicants an idea of what they are signing up for. I would expect the same if there was a strongly liberal school out there. This is a failure on the part of Liberty. I am also concerned about some of the wording of their code of conduct (which has been posted on this website). Liberty should know that they are going to be under the microscope and clearly word their code of conduct.

In regards to LBGT question...I would have no problem closeting my heterosexuality for four years if it meant the difference of being a physician or not. 🙂

Agreed with the rest of your post but the bolded... betrays your lack of knowledge of what being in the closet is actual like. I wasn't kidding about saying it would probably give me an ulcer, that actually is downplaying it TBH.

 

[deleted390966]

1) LUCOM's policies are independent of the ones of Liberty's. It's hilarious that there are so many posters who haven't even been there want to cast shade.

I'm pretty sure that their religious belief DOES influence their teaching (from http://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/lucom-liberty-vs-lmu-dcom.1124016/):

"Character (qualities that determine one’s response to events regardless of circumstances) determines success and is important because of powerful influences physicians have on patients’ health and well-being. Medical education should endorse good character, e.g. compassion, empathy, discernment, generosity, honor, justice, self-control, truthfulness and virtue. Important for patient care, we designed a curriculum to promote character in future physicians. Curricular examples: Neurophysiology: Pornography addiction can destroy marriages, families and culture. Its addiction is taught to encourage a physician’s compassion and to facilitate physician-patient education of self-control and virtue. Cardiovascular: Prolonged stress, unresolved anger and CRH release with cardiovascular sequelae, lead to major health problems. Attentiveness and sensitivity are taught to recognize and treat stress preventatively, not only in disease. GI/Nutrition: Responsibility and self-control in diet, fitness,andwellness are promoted in students, as good examples for future patients. Anatomical Sciences: Unselfishness and self-control are important in a patient for healthy sexual relationships. Female reproductive tracts allow for pathology (sperm proteins accessing the bloodstream can drag endometrial cells into the Pouch of Douglas) if honor doesn’t restrain intercourse during menstruation."

 

[j4pac]

Agreed with the rest of your post but the bolded... betrays your lack of knowledge of what being in the closet is actual like. I wasn't kidding about saying it would probably give me an ulcer, that actually is downplaying it TBH.

I'm not downplaying. Sure...I can't relate...but I am pretty sure that I understand that it would be miserable. I've had closeted friends and family members...so I don't think that I am completely detached. I don't think that any training facility should force someone into that position. With that said...medical training on the whole is endured suffering. If it meant being a doctor I would suffer and take my Nexium for four years.

 

[touchpause13]

I'm not downplaying. Sure...I can't relate...but I am pretty sure that I understand that it would be miserable. I've had closeted friends and family members...so I don't think that I am completely detached. I don't think that anyone training facility should force someone into that position. With that said...medical training on the whole is endured suffering. If it meant being a doctor I would suffer and take my Nexium for four years.

I mean I suppose we all have different ideas of how much being a doctor is worth to us. I want to come out the other end alive, so I'd rather not be a doctor than be in the closet again. You are right, medical training on the whole is endured suffering, I just have a limit to how much I'm willing to suffer.

 

[BorntobeDO?]

Heres a couple:

Sexual, Physical, Written or Verbal Misconduct
Respect for the dignity of each individual as a person created in God’s image is fundamental to
the institutional culture desired at Liberty University College of Osteopathic Medicine.
Misconduct that is contrary to the teachings of the Christian faith (thus constituting a violation of
the Code of Conduct includes, but is not limited to:
 Sexually-oriented joking or comments
 Harassment of an individual based on race or gender
 Unwelcome touching or any touching of a sexual nature
 Verbal or physical abuse
 Verbal or written disrespect to a faculty or staff member (this includes e-mails)
 Offensive or crude language directed at individuals
 Display of objects or pictures that depict nudity or are otherwise sexual in nature
 Persistent, unwanted attempts to change a casual or friendly relationship into a romantic
or more intimate one
Non-marital sexual relations and the encouragement or advocacy of sexual behaviors which
undermine Christian identity or Liberty Universities faith mission are defined by the University
as morally inappropriate misconduct and constitute violations of this Personal Code of Conduct.

Reporting Procedure

Any student who believes that he/she has been the subject of harassment in any form should

report the incident immediately to the Student Services Office. The student will be given the

opportunity to express his/her concerns and will then be appraised of the recourse available to

him/her under school policy and local and state statutes.

Pornography

Involvement with pornographic, obscene, indecent, or other similarly offensive materials,

expressions, or conduct is inconsistent with the Personal Code of Conduct and the Christian

World View of the College and University. Use of the University's computing network to obtain

or distribute such materials constitutes a violation of the Code.

Prohibited Substances

The College of Osteopathic Medicine seeks to provide a drug-free, healthy, and safe learning

environment. To this end, no student should misuse legal drugs or other legal medications, or

use, possess, distribute, or sell alcohol, illegal drugs or tobacco products.

Penalty

Any student of Liberty University, who engages in the aforementioned behavior(s), is subject to

disciplinary action, which may result in community service or possible dismissal. Since the

University takes such charges seriously, where the results of an investigation reveal a complaint

of harassment/sexual harassment to be frivolous or groundless, the individual having made such

a complaint may be subject to the same disciplinary action.

 

[j4pac]

I mean I suppose we all have different ideas of how much being a doctor is worth to us. I want to come out the other end alive, so I'd rather not be a doctor than be in the closet again. You are right, medical training on the whole is endured suffering, I just have a limit to how much I'm willing to suffer.

Yeah...I think that everyone has their limits on how much they are willing to take it and bend their principles. I may see it different on the other side of the fence...who knows.

 

[touchpause13]

Heres a couple:

Sexual, Physical, Written or Verbal Misconduct
Respect for the dignity of each individual as a person created in God’s image is fundamental to
the institutional culture desired at Liberty University College of Osteopathic Medicine.
Misconduct that is contrary to the teachings of the Christian faith (thus constituting a violation of
the Code of Conduct includes, but is not limited to:
 Sexually-oriented joking or comments
 Harassment of an individual based on race or gender
 Unwelcome touching or any touching of a sexual nature
 Verbal or physical abuse
 Verbal or written disrespect to a faculty or staff member (this includes e-mails)
 Offensive or crude language directed at individuals
 Display of objects or pictures that depict nudity or are otherwise sexual in nature
 Persistent, unwanted attempts to change a casual or friendly relationship into a romantic
or more intimate one
Non-marital sexual relations and the encouragement or advocacy of sexual behaviors which
undermine Christian identity or Liberty Universities faith mission are defined by the University
as morally inappropriate misconduct and constitute violations of this Personal Code of Conduct.

Reporting Procedure

Any student who believes that he/she has been the subject of harassment in any form should

report the incident immediately to the Student Services Office. The student will be given the

opportunity to express his/her concerns and will then be appraised of the recourse available to

him/her under school policy and local and state statutes.

Pornography

Involvement with pornographic, obscene, indecent, or other similarly offensive materials,

expressions, or conduct is inconsistent with the Personal Code of Conduct and the Christian

World View of the College and University. Use of the University's computing network to obtain

or distribute such materials constitutes a violation of the Code.

Prohibited Substances

The College of Osteopathic Medicine seeks to provide a drug-free, healthy, and safe learning

environment. To this end, no student should misuse legal drugs or other legal medications, or

use, possess, distribute, or sell alcohol, illegal drugs or tobacco products.

Penalty

Any student of Liberty University, who engages in the aforementioned behavior(s), is subject to

disciplinary action, which may result in community service or possible dismissal. Since the

University takes such charges seriously, where the results of an investigation reveal a complaint

of harassment/sexual harassment to be frivolous or groundless, the individual having made such

a complaint may be subject to the same disciplinary action.

Yup. I would have been expelled before orientation started.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

Agreed. That's a red flag in my book (more so than all of their other concerns). If Liberty is going to have a strongly conservative reputation...then at least give prospective applicants an idea of what they are signing up for. I would expect the same if there was a strongly liberal school out there. This is a failure on the part of Liberty. I am also concerned about some of the wording of their code of conduct (which has been posted on this website). Liberty should know that they are going to be under the microscope and clearly word their code of conduct.

In regards to LBGT question...I would have no problem closeting my heterosexuality for four years if it meant the difference of being a physician or not. 🙂

Again, kinda difficult if you have a same sex partner.

 

[Acceleration]

Heres a couple:

Sexual, Physical, Written or Verbal Misconduct
Respect for the dignity of each individual as a person created in God’s image is fundamental to
the institutional culture desired at Liberty University College of Osteopathic Medicine.
Misconduct that is contrary to the teachings of the Christian faith (thus constituting a violation of
the Code of Conduct includes, but is not limited to:
 Sexually-oriented joking or comments
 Harassment of an individual based on race or gender
 Unwelcome touching or any touching of a sexual nature
 Verbal or physical abuse
 Verbal or written disrespect to a faculty or staff member (this includes e-mails)
 Offensive or crude language directed at individuals
 Display of objects or pictures that depict nudity or are otherwise sexual in nature
 Persistent, unwanted attempts to change a casual or friendly relationship into a romantic
or more intimate one
Non-marital sexual relations and the encouragement or advocacy of sexual behaviors which
undermine Christian identity or Liberty Universities faith mission are defined by the University
as morally inappropriate misconduct and constitute violations of this Personal Code of Conduct.

Reporting Procedure

Any student who believes that he/she has been the subject of harassment in any form should

report the incident immediately to the Student Services Office. The student will be given the

opportunity to express his/her concerns and will then be appraised of the recourse available to

him/her under school policy and local and state statutes.

Pornography

Involvement with pornographic, obscene, indecent, or other similarly offensive materials,

expressions, or conduct is inconsistent with the Personal Code of Conduct and the Christian

World View of the College and University. Use of the University's computing network to obtain

or distribute such materials constitutes a violation of the Code.

Prohibited Substances

The College of Osteopathic Medicine seeks to provide a drug-free, healthy, and safe learning

environment. To this end, no student should misuse legal drugs or other legal medications, or

use, possess, distribute, or sell alcohol, illegal drugs or tobacco products.

Penalty

Any student of Liberty University, who engages in the aforementioned behavior(s), is subject to

disciplinary action, which may result in community service or possible dismissal. Since the

University takes such charges seriously, where the results of an investigation reveal a complaint

of harassment/sexual harassment to be frivolous or groundless, the individual having made such

a complaint may be subject to the same disciplinary action.

Oh, hell no.

 

[j4pac]

Again, kinda difficult if you have a same sex partner.

True...good point. If I was not in an active relationship...I would suck it up. It would be much more difficult if I was in an active relationship...would alienate your partner.