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Anyone spoken to residency directors about the potential delay in getting licensed or training permits in regards to Medical Board Issues. For those who don't know, Illinois currently only has 1 person processing applications causing a 12-18 month delay in approvals.

Anyone heard how this will be addressed in regards to starting residency on time?


http://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/health-med-fit/health/illinois-medical-licensing-department-faces-backlogs/article_9e13b095-950f-5660-ad84-2a7ea0e98a17.html
 
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This is a huge deal. Last year alone, about 50 residents could not start on time due to the idfpr sitting on their hands.

This appears come down to idfpr blaming the isms.

IDFPR statement:

Dear Healthcare Provider:

Please be advised that effective January 15, 2013, the Department of Financial and Professional Regulation's Medical Unit ("Department") will reduce its head count from 26 to eight employees. The Department has worked tirelessly to avoid these lay-offs, which will negatively impact the medical profession.

Beginning in the summer of 2012 and continuing through January 8, 2013, the Department repeatedly informed the Illinois State Medical Society ("ISMS") that it required an infusion of $9.6 million to avoid
the significant reduction in personnel. On multiple occasions, the Department informed ISMS of the dire consequences of allowing these layoffs to occur -- delays between 12 and 18 months to process a
medical license and severe constraints to the Department's ability to prosecute physicians who pose a risk to the health and safety of Illinois citizens.

Despite these calamitous consequences, ISMS actively lobbied against a bill to preserve the Department's Medical Unit; the proposed bill would have allocated the required $9.6 million enabling the Medical Unit to maintain its 26 employees. Although the Department will now have significantly less resources, it will continue to prioritize and protect the welfare of the citizens of Illinois to the best of its ability.

Physicians' fees have remained the same since 1987. Since this time, the Department's required costs have approximately doubled. Due to these rising costs, the Department spends approximately $1.8 million more in responsibly administering the mandated duties of the Medical Practice Act than it collects from the licensing fees paid by physicians.

As a direct result of ISMS' actions, the layoffs will occur. Please be further advised that the Department will have one employee to handle all physician licensing requests in Illinois.
Licenses for new physicians and for physicians transferring to Illinois will take between 12 and 18 months to process.

Graduating medical students seeking to match with hospitals in Illinois will experience the same delays.

Currently licensed physicians will need to renew their licenses in 2014, and will experience delays of up to 18 months to renew their license. Physicians' current licenses will almost certainly expire before a renewal can be processed. It is unlawful for anyone to provide medical services without holding a valid medical license.

Physicians may wish to contact their employer, affiliated hospital(s), and insurance company to make the necessary preparations in advance of the lengthy licensing delays. Nurses, physicians' assistants, pharmacists, and other healthcare professional may wish to discuss this situation with any physicians with whom they affiliate, as it may affect their ability to provide services to these physicians.

ISMS statement:
Dear Illinois Colleagues:

Earlier this week, ISMS successfully opposed state legislation backed by the Illinois Department of Financial and Professional Regulation (IDFPR)that would have triggered a HUGE medical license fee increase for physicians in 2014 – we estimate as high as $750 per physician, compared to the current $300. Attempting to shift blame to ISMS, state officials have threatened to lay off all but one state worker in the agency's medical licensing unit and delay license processing for new/transferring physicians and physicians-in-training by between "12 and 18 months."

We want you to know the facts surrounding this issue:
The state's medical licensing and disciplinary functions are covered by a "dedicated" fund underwritten exclusively by the medical license fees we pay.
That fund is nearly empty because prior General Assemblies have transferred almost $9 million of its dedicated resources for other, non-medical uses. None of that money has been restored to the fund. Prior to these diversions, there was enough money in the fund to cover the licensing and disciplinary functions until the 2014 license renewal period.
The "remedy" proposed by IDFPR would have borrowed $9.6 million from the Local Government Tax Fund and mandated payback of that loan in 2014 from the Medical Disciplinary Fund, just as the triennial medical license process begins to replenish our dedicated fund.
Under the IDFPR proposal, physicians' total bill would be the almost $9 million lost to prior sweeps and $9.6 million in payback of borrowed funds – plus monies needed to support the licensing and disciplinary functions over the next three years.
The certain result of all this maneuvering: a steep medical license fee increase in 2014 to cover payback of borrowed funds and future operational needs of the licensing and discipline unit. We estimate a new levy of at least $750 per license, perhaps more.
ISMS strongly opposes any legislation that contains a "payback" provision until monies swept from our fund over the last decade are restored. The Medical Disciplinary Fund cannot continue to be an open checkbook for the state. ISMS did not oppose an alternate proposal for IDFPR funding, which had cleared the Illinois Senate but was not taken up in the House.
This issue will reemerge in the new General Assembly that began yesterday. We must put a stop to the state's "shell game," which is being played at doctors' expense. Please read the ISMS letter to IDFPR and our news statement, and do not hesitate to contact me at [email protected] for additional information.

Sincerely,
Steven M. Malkin, M.D.
Chair, Board of Trustees
 
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The latest update on the issue to fix this problem:


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Legislation Introduced to Avert Medical Licensure and Discipline Crisis*
Medical society backs measure to restore funding for IDFPR Medical Unit*
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE FOR INTERVIEWS CONTACT:
January 30, 2013* John Maszinski*
312-580-6440*
* 312-608-3620*
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Chicago, IL –The Illinois State Medical Society urges General Assembly support for House Bill 1001, which restores previously swept monies to the Medical Disciplinary Fund. Recently, the Illinois Department of Financial and Professional Regulation (IDFPR) reassigned Medical Unit employees to other positions due to a Medical Unit funding shortage. The lack of staff has caused a backlog in new medical licensure applications. Further threatened is Illinois residency matching for the approximately 2,500 medical school graduates expected to begin training in our hospitals later this year. This bill restores IDFPR Medical Unit funding, secures necessary future revenue, and provides stability to Illinois' medical practice environment.
"ISMS urges quick passage of H.B. 1001," said Society President William N. Werner, MD. "Without immediate action, Illinois stands to lose physician recruits and medical residents who are interested in training here. Graduating medical students are currently ranking their preferences for medical residency positions that begin this summer."


ISMS is extremely concerned that many students will opt for out-of-state placements leaving Illinois residency positions unfilled. Residents provide direct patient care during training and their loss will diminish health care access."


ISMS-backed H.B. 1001 will:*

Transfer $9.6 million from the General Revenue Fund to the Medical Disciplinary Fund to return previously swept monies that were used to finance other state programs.* This funding enables the IDFPR Medical Unit to fully operate until new licensure revenues are received in 2014,
Increase physician initial licensure and renewal fees to $500 (a 67% increase) to ensure that the Medical Unit is well-funded in the future, and
Extend the sunset date of the Medical Practice Act for 10 years for consistency with other regulated professions.
Dr. Werner added, "The consequences of inaction are too great.* ISMS urges quick consideration for H.B. 1001, which will reopen Illinois for physicians seeking to provide medical care here."

ISMS is a professional membership association representing 11,000 physicians practicing in all medical specialties statewide. Dr. Werner is a Chicago internal medicine specialist.

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Let's say a student decides to attend a med school in IL. The clinical years are spent in some great hospitals in that state and relationships are made that insure matching at said hospitals. All goes well until a few months into their first year of residency when the financial costs of getting a license may have to be shared by them or they don't get their license in time to start their next year of training. Seems like the band-aids on the last link that were made don't opt for a true long-term solution. It's a shame, IL has a lot of good training spots that are going to loose students and students that now have to find a job in another state. This is one of those cases where physicians look like they're just laying down and taking it rather than standing up for themselves beyond the opposition briefs they've sent up the food chain. Guess who's NOT ever opening a practice in IL. Among other ones, CCOM students, you have to fight for your rights here as this has to have some effect on you very soon.
 

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Would osteopathic medical license wait times even be affected? In most states the osteopathic medical board is separate, right?
I think if there is this much of a delay, it will end up being fixed, hopefully soon.
there was something similar going on in California (but not as bad...wait time was more like 4-6 months at one point I think) and legal action was threatened and the state actually did fix most of the problem.
 
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Yikes! This is a huge problem., residents not starting on time?!?....typical Illinois and its bureaucracy problems.....esp Chicago....anything needing approval by city government, forget it....you're gonna face lots of red tape and failure
 

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This is worrisome. I have secured a contract with a group in Illinois and have sent in the paperwork for my license, but if it isn't processed in time, then I may not be able to start in July. I may need to get a license in another state and work part-time till I can officially start in Illinois. On the plus side I would have more time for board study.
 

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I had verbally accepted a job in Chicago, but have backed out and am close to signing with a group in another state. I can't afford to take any chances, not with MY monthly loan payments being what they are...
 

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I called the licensing board. After 45 minutes on hold I was able to speak to a very polite and helpful man. He informed me that they have hired back other workers to process the applications (I didn't ask how many or when this happened), and they were able to do this since they raised the fees (not sure when that takes effect). They have a bit of a backlog and are currently working on applications of those which were put onto the system in January. Mine was sent in in Feb, but put onto their system at the beginning of March (also when my check was cashed). He said that they should get to mine within a few weeks, and that I should have a license about a month after that.

If everything goes as scheduled, then I should have my license and state controlled substance permit with enough time to get a federal DEA number before I finish residency, so I could begin working shortly after residency finishes. The hospital is letting me apply for privileges prior to having the Illinois license, but will of course be contingent upon having a license. I hear this is quite common.
 

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I called the licensing board. After 45 minutes on hold I was able to speak to a very polite and helpful man. He informed me that they have hired back other workers to process the applications (I didn't ask how many or when this happened), and they were able to do this since they raised the fees (not sure when that takes effect). They have a bit of a backlog and are currently working on applications of those which were put onto the system in January. Mine was sent in in Feb, but put onto their system at the beginning of March (also when my check was cashed). He said that they should get to mine within a few weeks, and that I should have a license about a month after that.

If everything goes as scheduled, then I should have my license and state controlled substance permit with enough time to get a federal DEA number before I finish residency, so I could begin working shortly after residency finishes. The hospital is letting me apply for privileges prior to having the Illinois license, but will of course be contingent upon having a license. I hear this is quite common.

Do you know why it takes so long for someone to pick up in the dept in IL? It takes hours sometimes to get through. Also do you know if they have fixed the snafu with the licensing/verification issue? I sent my stuff twice, and have not heard anything.
 

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Do you know why it takes so long for someone to pick up in the dept in IL? It takes hours sometimes to get through. Also do you know if they have fixed the snafu with the licensing/verification issue? I sent my stuff twice, and have not heard anything.
Once he answered the phone he was very, very helpful and friendly. I have no complaints whatsoever with their customer service, once speaking to them on the phone. I am not sure why it takes so long to answer the phone. Likely they only have 1-2 people answering phones, who must dig through each caller's files. My speculation is they will call you if they are actually processing your file and find something missing.

My lawyer friend told me that the annoying people who called all the time got their (law) files processed faster so that they didn't have to deal with the annoying callers anymore. The squeaky wheel gets his license faster.
 

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Once he answered the phone he was very, very helpful and friendly. I have no complaints whatsoever with their customer service, once speaking to them on the phone. I am not sure why it takes so long to answer the phone. Likely they only have 1-2 people answering phones, who must dig through each caller's files. My speculation is they will call you if they are actually processing your file and find something missing.

My lawyer friend told me that the annoying people who called all the time got their (law) files processed faster so that they didn't have to deal with the annoying callers anymore. The squeaky wheel gets his license faster.
I don't need an IL license, just my previous license verified. They also have 2 different addresses for where to send verifications and I want to know whether they have processed mine. I have been on hold for almost an hour the first time, and then they hung up! Then I held for another hour and they hung up again!! What is the deal?!

Do they have an email address or something where to contact them?
 

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Good news. My wife tells me I got my Illinois license in the mail today. It looks like they are catching up.
 
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i applied in end of april/2013. Still havnt heard anything abt it. Just wondering if ppl who applied in the same time frame heard anything from IL. Thanks!
 
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I applied in April, just got a letter from my program saying one of my forms wasn't completed w/in 30 days of graduation. I had the updated form sent in last Friday and was told it will be ~1 week. Pain in the ass, but it seems like they're getting through them.
 

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Curious as to how long licensing in IL is taking these days. My application was sent in mid June but haven't heard anything as of yet.

Anyone recently applied, and what was your wait time?
 

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Curious as to how long licensing in IL is taking these days. My application was sent in mid June but haven't heard anything as of yet.

Anyone recently applied, and what was your wait time?
Well, it's IL....
Depends on if this is for a temp or permanent license. Temp (training) ones are faster (no history to have to verify, see next comment).
Depends on how many prior licenses, jobs, hospital appts, training programs, etc. you have held (assuming you applied for a permanent license). They have to verify them all. If a prior state where you have/had a license is notorious for a slow licensing board, expect that their response to IL's inquiry will hold you up.

Could be anywhere from 4-6 weeks to several months.
 
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Thanks. Yes, it's for a permanent. And just coming out of residency from California.

Gonna have to call them up this week.
 
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I drove to Springfield yesterday to check on the status of my permanent license. I was told they have no idea where my application is. They haven't received it from the mail room yet. I submitted mine in mid-June. She told me part of the reason they are more behind than usual this year is because all physicians in the state are on the same renewal cycle (regardless of when the license was issued), which just happens to be this year. Already licensed physicians must renew by July 31. Good luck!
 

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I spoke with someone last week at the office. They started processing my application last week and cashed both my checks last week. They told me an estimated time of four weeks.
 
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Hey Junkster, I applied around the same time you did. First time called, they said ~4 weeks. Application got accepted into the system around mid July. Hoping to get it soon.
 

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My renewal was quick and easy last year.

My initial application as a PG3 was a complete disaster that had me taking a day off from work to drive to Springfield to hand-deliver a transcript they told me was missing from my application only to have them say "oops, we had this the whole time. Here's your license. sorry for the delay."
 
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My renewal was quick and easy last year.

My initial application as a PG3 was a complete disaster that had me taking a day off from work to drive to Springfield to hand-deliver a transcript they told me was missing from my application only to have them say "oops, we had this the whole time. Here's your license. sorry for the delay."
I think the IL issues have been resolved for the most part. When I applied, it did take them about 3-4 weeks to get to my application since they had a backlog - but I got my full license within about 3 weeks after they started reviewing it.