I applied to a lot of low tier academic places that I thought I would get ivs from too.. this process seems so random sometimes..im debating if i should send more LOI or just wait it out.. i think i should be safe in terms of matching but hoping i dont fall to the bottom of my rank list and end up at a community program
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Same boat! Ghosted by like 95% of my low tier academics. I guess we still have some time im just so paranoid and impatient lol waiting on that trickle
same here.. im impatient as well.. also a little concern if there something wrong with my app when im not getting the low tier places
Haha dude ill tell you one thing and its def not that there is something wrong with your app you got an invite at Georgetown. Im not sure what these low tiers are thinking though
Just got an invite at University of Mississippi several minutes after I called!
Thats awesome! Do you call the PC and just express your interest in the program?
What a baller. I totally don't think I would have the guts to call anyone, props to you.
Yup exactly! I just say who I am and that I am very interested in their program and ask if they have sent invites out yet? Obvi i know they have but its the way I say it. It worked lol
thanks for the info.. there is a low tier program that i emailed but never heard back debating if i should call too…
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Does it help to call? What do say and who do you call!
530am interview next week. thats what i get for applying to U of Arizona when i live in NJ
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Huh? The interview is at 2am??
Is it Tucson or Phoenix? I'm interviewing at Tucson soon too and I'm also EST =(
Im an idiot lmao im 2 hrs ahead
Im so dumb NJ is 2 hrs ahead im fine
I was about to be like wait....this doesn't check out lol
I feel so stupid hahah
It's something you can discuss during interviews on things you need to improve, you know... real life weaknesses and all
Tuscon! But apparently these two programs will soon be one large program I was reading?
They are planning on merging the Tucson and South Campus programs together. Both are located in Tucson.
I think Phoenix is still kept separate
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I was about to say hahah
How'd signaling go for everyone? I'm 3/5 on signaling, surprised I didn't get at least 1 of the remaining 2.
4/5...Emory is the last one I never got an invite from still waiting and not sure whether I should send an LOI or not. If I haven't gotten an invite from them by now I doubt Ill ever get one they are Top 15ish. Almost embarrassed to call them lmao feel like theyll laugh since its November
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2/5. Probably 2 programs I would've received interview invites at regardless though. Very surprised about 1 in particular I haven't heard back from. Even sent them a LOI.
3/5 for me.. i’m still a little surprised i never got one from ccf
Damn, I'm sitting at 0/5. Even sent lois too lol
Do yall think Tulanes probationary status is a red flag? Bad idea to send an LOI?
1/5 on signals. Gotten 25 invites so far but only like 4 of them are academic lol. I guess I got the volume going for me? Sent out 2 LOIs so far with no response. Overall happy but would like to get one of the two that I sent LOIs to and signaled.
No love from the trickle so far, hoping once some of the people that applied to IM as a back up get IVs in their primary specialties they’ll drop the IM spots
No love from the trickle so far, hoping once some of the people that applied to IM as a back up get IVs in their primary specialties they’ll drop the IM spots
By any chance did you apply to the community programs in columbus, ohio? … I thought I would hear back from more community programs
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Hoping the same, have 14 but waiting on some academic trickles lol
I applied all over but not Ohio
I am interviewing at UT-Memphis and their med school is also on probation status...they said that their residency accreditation status will not be affected
Anyone have thoughts on Zucker Northwell at Lenox Hill? I need some backup community programs in NY so wondering if that would be a good one to send LOI.
Thanks !! Any thoughts on SUNY downstate or NYU Long Island?
CC Main by far then probably Zucker then all the rest
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How likely is it to match into your top 3? I'm having imposter syndrome about my top choices and worried I'll fall really low on my rank list.
I think for all DO matchees it’s something like ~60% match one of their top three
I wish they reported data by specialty.
Hard to know if 60 is high/low/ just right for IM
Thats ridiculous how is it that low? If I didnt match into one of my top 3 or 4 i wouldnt be happy at all. I honestly feel like its more like 80% match their top 4. A lot of doom and gloom on SDN when it comes to DOs has not even come close to happening in my personal experience
If the programs at the top of your list are considered “reaches” for a DO then there is a higher likelihood of dropping farther down your list.
I’ll see if I can dig up the actual numbers. Because it was a pie chart the NRMP put out
Edit: hard numbers from 2021
DOs matching top choice- 38%
DOs matching top 3- 65%
DOs matching top 4- 72%
citation: https://www.nrmp.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/MRM-Results_and-Data_2021.pdf
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I just looked it up for 2021 74% matched their top 3 and 84% matched their top 4. 80+% matching top 4 is solid odds. My top rank will be Vandy and is def without question a reach but none of my others are reaches except for Yale but I am currently WL there so I can't really count that kinda sucks. My other programs are definitely very competitive IM programs but I don't think are reaches but we'll see. I wouldn't really want to go to or be happy at any of the programs below my top 4 (possibly 5) absolute max unfortunately
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This is for all specialties I remember seeing that pie chart somewhere. But for IM I think it is much higher than say other specialties like surgery or EM I would think.
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Those numbers are for all specialties correct? For IM I think it's higher just because of the shear number of spots.
See my edit. I put in hard numbers from the 2021 NRMP report for DOs.
72% top 4.
Unfortunately you have to just mentally be prepared to match somewhere that isn’t your ideal place. This goes for both MDs and DOs. Too many people get devastated emotionally when they match farther down their list than they wanted.
Thanks for the info.. any idea the chances of getting top 4 or 5 for couples matching? At this point I’ll be grateful to match into any academic
Yeah it’s all specialties, IM is highly variable depending on what your rank list looks like. If it’s a bunch of competitive programs your chances of slipping are greater than if it’s the usual community IM places that make up the majority of DOs applying IM.
To be fair that goes for pretty much any specialty. Competitive programs are competitive for everyone.
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I don't know where you getting that data but that doesn't seem right nor can I see it in the link you posted.
I know a number of people from last year who were DO IM applicants that matched at their 4-6 rank, which is what prompted me to post the question in this thread. Kinda scary. I'm optimistic but being realistic just preparing for the worst so I'm not one of those that's completely blindsided on match day if I do fall on my list.
At the end of the day we'll all be docs no matter where we match, even if it's not our top choice. Just have to learn to detach our happiness with something like this that isn't even really in our hands. Just gotta try our best and leave it up to fate I guess.
I think its honestly reasonable to bank on matching your top 4 or 5 places unless you just absolutely suck horribly at interviewing. Even if the places are competitive I think falling down below 5 on your list is just absurd to think about. I would be straight up livid if I didn't match my top 4 or 5 after all of that hard work
