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I think this is difficult for current M1+'s to fully understand, seeing as they had all of these experiences even if they did not care for them in retrospect
Yeah apologies if I came off as apathetic. I added an edit as I do sympathize with the struggles that other med students are facing right now. No one really wins in this situationNot all of us. My school does white coat at the end of first year. It got postponed and now we don’t have any idea what it’s going to be like.
And your feelings are valid and legitimate. But personally I’d rather lose white coat than have half my rotations canceled or have my match day and graduation canceled.
Yeah apologies if I came off as apathetic. I added an edit as I do sympathize with the struggles that other med students are facing right now. No one really wins in this situation
What will rotations be like for incoming M3s? Are some rotations cancelled?
I lost match day and graduation and i would have gladly given up the white coat ceremony. You dont have to have white coat during M1 anyway. I believe WVU does it at end of M2.Not all of us. My school does white coat at the end of first year. It got postponed and now we don’t have any idea what it’s going to be like.
And your feelings are valid and legitimate. But personally I’d rather lose white coat than have half my rotations canceled or have my match day and graduation canceled.
I lost match day and graduation and i would have gladly given up the white coat ceremony. You dont have to have white coat during M1 anyway. I believe WVU does it at end of M2.
I skipped Match Day and would gladly have skipped graduation if my mother didn't have her heart set on the damned thing.I lost match day and graduation and i would have gladly given up the white coat ceremony. You dont have to have white coat during M1 anyway. I believe WVU does it at end of M2.
I skipped Match Day and would gladly have skipped graduation if my mother didn't have her heart set on the damned thing.
It's different when you're an established student. Imagine trying to make friends through social media and learning how to study for med school essentially by yourself.I’m finishing M1, and I’m glad we’re doing mostly distance learning. Cuts out a lot of the mandatory stuff that is useless and will hopefully show people that maybe we don’t need all that stuff.
It's different when you're an established student. Imagine trying to make friends through social media and learning how to study for med school essentially by yourself.
Hell I'm bummed that I might not meet the incoming class for some time.
I've been more and more worried about this as my school has remained vague about what curriculum will look like moving into the fall... I'll be moving across the country to a school in an area I don't have any personal connections and am worried that the total lack of in-person events may make it even more difficult to establish a support system. Compounded with the fact that my school is on a 1-year pre-clinical curriculum, I worry that by the time things start regressing to any state of normalcy, my classmates and I will be shunted off into clerkships without even meeting one-another. I understand the precautions that need to be taken right now, it's just a disappointing reality.
Yeah graduation is more of a “family” thing that i never wanted to participate in the three times I had to do it.I skipped Match Day and would gladly have skipped graduation if my mother didn't have her heart set on the damned thing.
they literally cannot NOT do it in June. School starts in August, they need to make the curriculum, organize professors, make the plan, finalize budget, etc. They need to get all those changes approved (governing board of school, or whoever the higher authority is). They also need to make sure it complies with all the new guidelines. There is so much that goes into planning a school semester.. You have no idea.Somewhat. My plan is to just reach out to faculty and residents for research and develop my own circle.
I wish these schools were a little less hasty in deciding the format in June. They should assess on a month by month basis.
I mean if we're being honest with ourselves there's going to be a second wave one way or another.Somewhat. My plan is to just reach out to faculty and residents for research and develop my own circle.
I wish these schools were a little less hasty in deciding the format in June. They should assess on a month by month basis.
And nobody can predict what will happen next. These protests likely set so many places back when it comes to cases, so it’s hard to even say August will be “safe”.they literally cannot NOT do it in June. School starts in August, they need to make the curriculum, organize professors, make the plan, finalize budget, etc. They need to get all those changes approved (governing board of school, or whoever the higher authority is). They also need to make sure it complies with all the new guidelines. There is so much that goes into planning a school semester.. You have no idea.
exactly. and medical schools are in impossible situation now, trying to figure out now to provide quality medical education under the current circumstances. It is so hard.And nobody can predict what will happen next. These protests likely set so many places back when it comes to cases, so it’s hard to even say August will be “safe”.
it's school dependent for sure, but I'm wondering how incoming M1's and M2's will make up for the missed clinical skills sessions. I mean I don't want to cram basic physical exams right before clinical rotations lolexactly. and medical schools are in impossible situation now, trying to figure out now to provide quality medical education under the current circumstances. It is so hard.
yeah in my school we only missed liver ultrasound (and GI physical exam stuff) during spring semester. My school frontloads the rest of the physical things at the beginning of the year. Next year during M2 we are supposed to do OB/GYN exam, prostate exam, etc. These are important. I am sure they will figure it out though. I really love how our school organizes things, - i trust them. I know that a lot of places are doing telemedicine thing to at least practice interviewing pts, and such.it's school dependent for sure, but I'm wondering how incoming M1's and M2's will make up for the missed clinical skills sessions. I mean I don't want to cram basic physical exams right before clinical rotations lol
it's school dependent for sure, but I'm wondering how incoming M1's and M2's will make up for the missed clinical skills sessions. I mean I don't want to cram basic physical exams right before clinical rotations lol
I think the most significant impact will be the socialization aspect, since you won't get to know your peers as well, form friendships as well, have study groups as well, etc. Nothing else really matters all that much. Most of my learning for the first two years was online by choice, because my school recorded almost all lectures and I chose not to attend and just watch the recordings at home. Things that are typically done in small groups were mandatory and those were the only things I attended, but I think you could still do those online and do them even more effectively than other things since a chat with 8 people is probably better than one with your entire class. Anatomy would be the most affected, but perhaps your school try to make up for it in the spring semester.
I have study groups every week. It’s over hangouts but we still see each other’s faces and socialize a bit while we study. I have had multiple meetings this week where I got to talk to people. Is it ideal? No, but it is completely possible to still have study groups and socialize. Like you said, I think it’s actually better on a small call than with a whole huge group.
I don’t do this, but people in my class are studying in person in groups. They are just doing it with only a couple people and they are sitting far apart, some doing it outside.
I don't know why you have to repeatedly bring everything back to you; that poster was clearly discussing the OP's questions/concerns, and being a rising M1 is very very different socially than a rising M2 such as yourself. A lot of friendships are formed early in medical school, and I cannot imagine entering med school 100% online and not actually meeting people. I cannot imagine doing a Zoom group study with a bunch of people I've never met. I'm sure people will adapt and it will be fine in the end, but the experience is going to be very different than what the rest of us experienced in med school.
When your upper year med students give you suggestions based on their experiences, are you going to tell them it’s not about them and they don’t understand?
Lol I'm a resident.
You're missing the entire point. Saying, "Oh we just have zoom study sessions/small groups and it's fine and we socialize during that" while completely forgetting that you already had 9 months of regular med school to establish those relationships is so naive. What works when you have established social groups does not necessarily work when you don't, so you're just offering an orange when they need an apple.