interesting article for Oz and NZ FMGs

[stembio]

I came across this article in PubMed. It's got some good stats in it concerning doctors from Oz and NZ working in the US. Here is the link:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...ve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=10178575

Hope this helps..

Stembio

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[ALTorGT]

do you have the full text?

 

[Purifyer]

do you have the full text?

Here ya go

 

[Johnny69]

I came across this article in PubMed. It's got some good stats in it concerning doctors from Oz and NZ working in the US. Here is the link:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...ve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=10178575

Hope this helps..

Stembio

That study is 6 years old.

 

[stembio]

Although this paper is a little dusty, it still gives some idea of the value that a medical degree from Oz or NZ has in the US. After reading it, things look good for grads from these countries who are interested in specializing in the US. The results of this paper should probably be taken with a pinch of salt, though. As far as I see it, the results can be interpreted in two ways: 1) US residency programs appreciate the skills and knowledge that Oz and NZ grads have and/or 2) specialized docs from Oz and NZ have a tendency to emigrate to the US. Any thoughts?

Stembio

 

[Johnny69]

Although this paper is a little dusty, it still gives some idea of the value that a medical degree from Oz or NZ has in the US. After reading it, things look good for grads from these countries who are interested in specializing in the US. The results of this paper should probably be taken with a pinch of salt, though. As far as I see it, the results can be interpreted in two ways: 1) US residency programs appreciate the skills and knowledge that Oz and NZ grads have and/or 2) specialized docs from Oz and NZ have a tendency to emigrate to the US. Any thoughts?

Stembio

Totally disagree with 2). The paper made the point the % of docs who migrate to the US are more likely to be specialists, as opposed to all specialists in Aus or NZ have a tendency to migrate to the US. Can you see the difference.

 

[Purifyer]

Johnny are you purposely trying to be an ass? If you'd actually bothered reading the paper properly, the authors come to the same conclusions as stembio.

I was going to refrain from commenting on what you said earlier regarding the date of the publication.... have you ever read a research article before? You would be lucky in any field to find a paper written in the last couple of years in some esoteric part of medicine that you were interested in.

The date of the publication is irrelevant anyway. The part that makes me question the validity of the paper (for today) is that it is based on evidence gathered from 1994.

 

[Retinamark]

I came across this article in PubMed. It's got some good stats in it concerning doctors from Oz and NZ working in the US. Here is the link:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...ve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=10178575

Hope this helps..

Stembio

Thanks - I'll read that. Another good article I found recently is:
A fellowship in the USA: essential information for the Australasian medical graduate.
Aust N Z J Surg. 1999 Jul;69(7):527-30.

The pubmed link is:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...ve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=10442927

Some of the details are out of date now, especially the steps required for ECFMG, but it is still a very helpful introduction.

 

[stembio]

Thanks for the info Retinamark. I'll look that article up when I get to Oz. It will be interesting to see the costs (in terms of time and money) broken down.
Are you looking to do your post-grad training in the US? If so, what have your experiences been so far, concerning extent of preparation for USMLEI in particular and/or any other advice you can provide?

Stembio

 

[Retinamark]

Thanks for the info Retinamark. I'll look that article up when I get to Oz. It will be interesting to see the costs (in terms of time and money) broken down.
Are you looking to do your post-grad training in the US? If so, what have your experiences been so far, concerning extent of preparation for USMLEI in particular and/or any other advice you can provide?

Stembio

Stembio,
I did the USMLE back in 1998 just before they introduced the CSA. When they announced they were changing it, there was a large group of people at my hospital who sat the exams, so we could get our ECFMG certificates before the CSA was introduced. If you got your certificate before july 98 (I think) you are exempt from the CSA. Looking back now, even though it was tough at the time I'm so glad I did it. I'm just finishing my ophthalmology training, & it would be extremely difficult to go back & study psychiatry & obstetrics again.
The exam isn't too bad. With a few weeks revision, if you got good grades in med school, you should be able to pass. To get resident jobs in the US, it seems a high score is important, but I don't know how important it is for fellowships. I'm starting to look for an ophthalmology fellowship in the US for next year.
The best advice I've been given, is to start early. There can be very long delays at every step. Some of my friends in the year above me who are trying to go to the states have been tearing their hair out for > 6 months. It is SO much easier to do a fellowship in the UK.
I'd much rather go to the US though. While there are some negatives about US fellowships, I think the positives are much greater, & in ophthalmology at least, most of the best of the best institutions are in the US.

Good luck