Interviews part 01

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E'02,

I thought that was sadly ironic, myself. Looked like a good day for a change. Even though I have decided to not go to UCSF, I want to be able to reject them!🙂

lol - well it seems like you have a nice enough selection of places as if. I can't complain myself really. Well I could.....it's always nice to be wanted by programs!

I'm heading to Atlanta (ASA) tonight - hope to see some of y'all there

 

[fishtolive]

haven't replied for awhile...here's my update, decent batting average so far as I am just waiting on 2 (sinai and cornell)

University of Connecticut Program, -scheduled interview

Yale-New Haven Medical Center Program, -scheduled interview

Harvard/Brigham and Women's Hospital Program, declined interview
yes I have a thing against Boston!

Massachusetts General Hospital Program, -scheduled interview

Johns Hopkins University Program, -scheduled interview

UMDNJ-New Jersey Medical School Program, -scheduled interview

Albert Einstein College of Medicine Program -scheduled interview

Mount Sinai School of Medicine Program- nothing yet


New York Presbyterian Hospital (Cornell Campus) Program, nothing yet

New York University School of Medicine Program, -scheduled interview

New York-Presbyterian Hospital (Columbia Campus) Program, -scheduled interview

St Luke's-Roosevelt Hospital Center Program, -scheduled interview

University of Rochester Program, -scheduled interview

Drexel University College of Medicine Program, -scheduled interview

Temple University Program, nothing yet

Thomas Jefferson University Program, -scheduled interview

University of Pennsylvania Program, -scheduled interview

--I will certainly be dropping a few of these and will update as this happens/I get tired of BSing with the interviewers.

 

[hermione]

SUNY Buffalo today via email. Not thru ERAS. (10/21)

 

[chicamedica]

A good friend of mine who's a sr this year (i'm a fresh.) got gas interviews at university of kansas and baylor (houston) this week. He was telling me that u of kansas only interviews one person on any given interview day. Seemed strange to me. Anyone else heard of such a thing? Anyone have any insight into the quality of these programs?

oh, your "friend" again 😉 😉 😉

 

[ear-ache]

Harvard/Brigham and Women's Hospital Program, declined interview
yes I have a thing against Boston!

Massachusetts General Hospital Program, -scheduled interview

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't MGH in Boston as well... (55 Fruit St. to be exact)
😕

 

[IlianaSedai]

Duke. 10/21

 

[vecuronium]

Wow Baylor wants to interview me!!!

Didn't think i would qualify.... 😀

 

[fishtolive]

"Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't MGH in Boston as well... (55 Fruit St. to be exact)"



Astute...

sounds like I'm just going there for the hell of it, no? Maybe I'll just walk out mid-interview for some Andy Kaufman-esque fun. You just never know.

 

[Idiopathic]

First rejection today: Columbia.


They aint friend to the osteo, apparently.

 

[Idiopathic]

oops

 

[ear-ache]

Astute...

sounds like I'm just going there for the hell of it, no? Maybe I'll just walk out mid-interview for some Andy Kaufman-esque fun. You just never know.

I would pay good money to see that! 😀

btw, I'm glad that I impressed you with my awesome powers of deduction.

 

[SleepyTime]

Amen Idio.

Intervew from UC Davis (10-19) and Loma Linda (10-21).

 

[chicamedica]

"Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't MGH in Boston as well... (55 Fruit St. to be exact)"



Astute...

sounds like I'm just going there for the hell of it, no? Maybe I'll just walk out mid-interview for some Andy Kaufman-esque fun. You just never know.

That's not really fair to those of us still hoping for an interview at MGH (and really want to possibly match there). 👎

You should really cancel the interview if you have no desire to match there, and give someone who does a chance.

 

[ultm8frisbee]

That's not really fair to those of us still hoping for an interview at MGH (and really want to possibly match there). 👎

You should really cancel the interview if you have no desire to match there, and give someone who does a chance.

Fishtolive,
HERE I COME TO SAVE THE DAY!
Chica,
Get off your soapbox, I'll loan you a ladder if you need.

 

[hermione]

Fishtolive,
HERE I COME TO SAVE THE DAY!
Chica,
Get off your soapbox, I'll loan you a ladder if you need.

Uh oh. Lets not let this thread go downhill...its been very civil and helpful!!!

 

[toughlife]

First rejection today: Columbia.


They aint friend to the osteo, apparently.

Man, that is surprising and it seriously makes me wonder what kinda place they are.

 

[Idiopathic]

Well, they have none in residency and I personally know of allo students with average stats who have interviews. I guess its anecdotal, but I cant really explain it otherwise.

 

[chicamedica]

Fishtolive,
HERE I COME TO SAVE THE DAY!
Chica,
Get off your soapbox, I'll loan you a ladder if you need.

To save the day. . .right. . . 🙄

I'm really serious about this. I'm one of the applicants still waiting for an interview invite from MGH, and it's really unfair for people to just want to waste an interview slot to make some kind of an attitude-filled statement by walking out in the middle of the interview day, when some people are dying for an interview and are truly serious about matching there.

 

[toughlife]

Well, they have none in residency and I personally know of allo students with average stats who have interviews. I guess its anecdotal, but I cant really explain it otherwise.

I think you are right because I my step 1 is wayyyy below yours at 219.

 

[aredoubleyou]

To save the day. . .right. . . 🙄

I'm really serious about this. I'm one of the applicants still waiting for an interview invite from MGH, and it's really unfair for people to just want to waste an interview slot to make some kind of an attitude-filled statement by walking out in the middle of the interview day, when some people are dying for an interview and are truly serious about matching there.

I'm pretty sure that was sarcasm - no one is gunna walk out of the interview, especially at a place at MGH. I'm just guessing but he probably really doesnt want to go to Boston, but cant live with himself turning down an MGH interview with the chance of matching into the program where essentially anesthesiology was born. He probably studied a little bit harder for the boards, worked a little harder on rotations then a lot of us and deserves the interview.

 

[ultm8frisbee]

To save the day. . .right. . . 🙄

I'm really serious about this. I'm one of the applicants still waiting for an interview invite from MGH, and it's really unfair for people to just want to waste an interview slot to make some kind of an attitude-filled statement by walking out in the middle of the interview day, when some people are dying for an interview and are truly serious about matching there.

Oh no,

It is only a step ladder and you're getting so damn' high chica, I need to go to Sutherlands and rent a ladder for how high you are. Seriously, CUM on now you are only an M4, If you want to go to MGH I'm sure they would be happy to have you, Don't rain on someones's parade if they got an invite you didn't.











P.S.........Sutherland's is the MECCA of the Midwest.

 

[eagle26]

Oh no,

It is only a step ladder and you're getting so damn' high chica, I need to go to Sutherlands and rent a ladder for how high you are. Seriously, CUM on now you are only an M4, If you want to go to MGH I'm sure they would be happy to have you, Don't rain on someones's parade if they got an invite you didn't.











P.S.........Sutherland's is the MECCA of the Midwest.

Please stop this drama....can't we all just get along instead of catfighting?

 

[jc237]

That's not really fair to those of us still hoping for an interview at MGH (and really want to possibly match there). 👎

You should really cancel the interview if you have no desire to match there, and give someone who does a chance.

Chica, no one is going to walk out in the middle of the interview. He was being sarcastic and you took it too seriously. He might not like Boston, but if I were him, I would go to interview at MGH. Many, many people will be going to interviews in places where they don't like, just in case....

1. they might actually like it
2. it's too prestigious to pass up
3. it's their safety
4. they need practice on their interview skills (esp. when English is not first language)
5. nice excuse for a mini vacation if it's in a nice location

Personally, I'll be going to several interviews where I think I might not rank at all... I'll go anyway for the above reasons. My feeling is, if they want to interview me, I deserve to go. Some people might not like it, but that's life. I'm also waiting on several schools which have started giving out invites. However, if they haven't invited me yet, chances are, my stats did not meet their initial cut off. If next week, they say yes to me, I'll be thrilled.

Good luck on your hunt for MGH, Chicamedica.

 

[driverabu]

Look peeps, I'm sure fishtolive was being a little sarcastic when he/she said that they would walk out in the middle of the interview at MGH. Chica may have taken it a little too hard as well. However, for somebody to have the privilege to interview at MGH and downplay it on a forum such as this......come on! It's obvious that fishtolive has great step scores bla bla bla, but to rub it into the face of equally hardworking students dreaming of MGH is a bit too much. We all know that there was a bit....just a touch of "in your faces" in fisholive's post.

 

[aredoubleyou]

Look peeps, I'm sure fishtolive was being a little sarcastic when he/she said that they would walk out in the middle of the interview at MGH. Chica may have taken it a little too hard as well. However, for somebody to have the privilege to interview at MGH and downplay it on a forum such as this......come on! It's obvious that fishtolive has great step scores bla bla bla, but to rub it into the face of equally hardworking students dreaming of MGH is a bit too much. We all know that there was a bit....just a touch of "in your faces" in fisholive's post.

'In your face' on SDN - no way! Thats so unusual on this forum.
(Yes, that was sarcasm.)

Oh, by the way, did I tell you that I got a 299 on my boards, 3 great personalized LOR from the chairs of UCSF, MGH, & Stanford, got high honors on every class and rotation, published 27 papers (but lead author on only 12 of them - the NEJM one I was second author - man was I pissed), & I personally founded a free clinic for the underserved. So what are my chances of matching this year? Do you think I should only go to interviews that pay for Hotel and Plane?
(No, that was all truth.)

 

[DrDre']

This thread has set many records in my mind.

1. Greatest number of views
2. greatest number of posts, neurotic and otherwise 🙂
3. Longest running time without degeneration to BS SDNism
4. Most civility and comraderie prior to degeneration to typical BS SDNism
5. Longest time on Gas forum without CRNA v. "MDA" BSism
6. Longest time without DO v. MD crappism

Really, let's get back on track.
We are all stressed because we care and we are neurotic about something seemingly important like our "whole" future!


We all wish we were stronger, we all have our insecurities. Let's try to be supportive and just report the facts.

All the best!

 

[driverabu]

'In your face' on SDN - no way! Thats so unusual on this forum.
(Yes, that was sarcasm.)

Oh, by the way, did I tell you that I got a 299 on my boards, 3 great personalized LOR from the chairs of UCSF, MGH, & Stanford, got high honors on every class and rotation, published 27 papers (but lead author on only 12 of them - the NEJM one I was second author - man was I pissed), & I personally founded a free clinic for the underserved. So what are my chances of matching this year? Do you think I should only go to interviews that pay for Hotel and Plane?
(No, that was all truth.)

Damn dude....those are pretty good board scores if you ask me!!!! I like your resume when it comes to research as well!! I mean, I would have been pissed as well if I wasn't first author in a journal published by NEJM....and I'm just an IMG!!! You should most definitely only go on interviews that pay for hotel and plane....screw those other chepos!!

 

[driverabu]

This thread has set many records in my mind.

1. Greatest number of views
2. greatest number of posts, neurotic and otherwise 🙂
3. Longest running time without degeneration to BS SDNism
4. Most civility and comraderie prior to degeneration to typical BS SDNism
5. Longest time on Gas forum without CRNA v. "MDA" BSism
6. Longest time without DO v. MD crappism

Really, let's get back on track.
We are all stressed because we care and we are neurotic about something seemingly important like our "whole" future!


We all wish we were stronger, we all have our insecurities. Let's try to be supportive and just report the facts.

All the best!

I couldn't have said it better!

 

[Daredevil]

Well, they have none in residency and I personally know of allo students with average stats who have interviews. I guess its anecdotal, but I cant really explain it otherwise.

I am an US allo student and got rejected by them too, so don't feel too bad about it 🙁

 

[MedicinePowder]

First rejection today: Columbia.


They aint friend to the osteo, apparently.

That has to be the reason. I know a cat in my class (allo) with 1.5 SD below your step 1 score, who's very average otherwise and he scored an interview at Columbia. Some schools are DO friendly why others aren't. But you've landed some really nice interviews so at least not all top schools hold the same policy.

 

[Idiopathic]

Yeah, while Im still waiting on UCSF/Stanford/MGH/BID/B&W/Cornell/Yale/Dartmouth/Penn/Mayo-Jax, Id probably only take interviews at MGH/Penn/Yale at this point.

 

[chicamedica]

I'm pretty sure that was sarcasm - no one is gunna walk out of the interview, especially at a place at MGH. I'm just guessing but he probably really doesnt want to go to Boston, but cant live with himself turning down an MGH interview with the chance of matching into the program where essentially anesthesiology was born. He probably studied a little bit harder for the boards, worked a little harder on rotations then a lot of us and deserves the interview.

Never did I say that he doesn't deserve the MGH interview, but like driverabu said, it's a bit insulting when fishtolive is like throwing that invite around like it's a joke when some of us would actually like to train there.

I have a bunch of great interviews at places where I'd LOVE to train and am not stressing about not having an MGH invite, b/c I realize that my board score may not be quite as high as some people's. HOWEVER, there may be stronger applicants that didn't quite make the cut, that are also hoping to match at MGH, and I include their voices as well.

And ultim8frisbee. . .chill with your ladder/soapbox bs. . .no-one was talking to you anyway. 🙄

 

[Etomidate]

Yeah, while Im still waiting on UCSF/Stanford/MGH/BID/B&W/Cornell/Yale/Dartmouth/Penn/Mayo-Jax, Id probably only take interviews at MGH/Penn/Yale at this point.

I think it would be unwise to decline interviews from the other programs you have listed. They are top programs for a reason.

 

[Idiopathic]

True, but I have 10 interviews, 6 of which I would consider to be top-20 programs. I may have my clear-cut number one decided and could not realistically consider moving my family to NYC/SF/Boston except for a perfect scenario. Obviously I wouldnt have applied to those places if I didnt have interest there, but with the apparent lack of interest in me, I dont foresee myself pining away for the Brigham, for instance, nor do I see them asking me to interview in January, for instance, with any real shot of going there.

MGH is MGH. Penn and Yale are still excellent programs in cities that I wouldnt mind living. If I go to Florida, it will be at UF, not Mayo, simpy put. So, I will decline the others, and if I got an MGH interview that didnt fit my schedule, it would be about 50/50 whether I would bust my ass to go there, especially after the other programs that Ive already seen. Perception is so much of this, and the "name" of the program isnt quite doing it for me as much as I thought it would.

Of course, if those places gave me interviews on Monday, you never know... 😉

 

[dave262]

Back to the purpose of this thread...

-Turned in application on 10/1
Middle of class at Texas MD school.
Step I = 217
Step II = 229

Interviews: UTSW, Texas A&M, Oschner, UTSA, various prelim progs.
Havent heard from: Texas Tech, UT-Houston, UTMB, Baylor, UT-knoxville, Vanderbilt, UofMinnesota, Mayo-jax, UFlorida, UNC, Wake forest, UCLA, UAB, UU.
Probably not gonna hear from: Duke, Stanford.

Geez, i didnt know turning stuff in late would hurt me that much...

 

[Idiopathic]

Thats another one...forgot about Scott & White. Why havent I heard from them? They took a guy from our school just last year? Crazy stuff folks.

 

[chicamedica]

Back to the purpose of this thread...

-Turned in application on 10/1
Middle of class at Texas MD school.
Step I = 217
Step II = 229

Interviews: UTSW, Texas A&M, Oschner, UTSA, various prelim progs.
Havent heard from: Texas Tech, UT-Houston, UTMB, Baylor, UT-knoxville, Vanderbilt, UofMinnesota, Mayo-jax, UFlorida, UNC, Wake forest, UCLA, UAB, UU.
Probably not gonna hear from: Duke, Stanford.

Geez, i didnt know turning stuff in late would hurt me that much...

Why do you say you wont hear from Duke or Stanford?

 

[jc237]

'In your face' on SDN - no way! Thats so unusual on this forum.
(Yes, that was sarcasm.)

Oh, by the way, did I tell you that I got a 299 on my boards, 3 great personalized LOR from the chairs of UCSF, MGH, & Stanford, got high honors on every class and rotation, published 27 papers (but lead author on only 12 of them - the NEJM one I was second author - man was I pissed), & I personally founded a free clinic for the underserved. So what are my chances of matching this year? Do you think I should only go to interviews that pay for Hotel and Plane?
(No, that was all truth.)

Damn, you must feel like a fool not to get 300. Weak, I tell ya. Congrats on the 27 papers, though. Respect. I got 28 papers. Almost 29, but Nature rejected my paper disproving Watson and Crick.

 

[MD/TX2006]

Thats another one...forgot about Scott & White. Why havent I heard from them? They took a guy from our school just last year? Crazy stuff folks.

Sorry, but I have to stick up for my home institution. Scott and White is awesome, but they just don't look for the highest board scores, AOA, etc. In previous years they took people with Step 1 of 190's to the high of 260's, based on personality. Personal statements, volunteer work, and all that's on your resume have a huge impact. A majority of programs might not do this, but the residents have a big say in who comes here and who doesn't.

By the way, the only interview about 55-60. So even if you are an awesome candidate, you may not be the one they are looking for...

Good luck for the rest of your interviews, I hope you get what you're looking for and please don't badmouth other programs just because you've gotten the shaft. Every single one of us could do the same. 😉

 

[fishtolive]

whoa! chica.

I didn't mean for my sarcasm (and that's what it was) to be hurtful to anyone. as someone who thinks this site is great but doesn't post all the time (hence my late response to this flurry) i hate when threads burn up because people get too sensitive. i have learned, though, that med school types oftentimes just don't get it--they take themselves too seriously.

yes i'm not a fan of boston and yes i probably won't end up there but if given the opportunity to interview then i figure why not, maybe something will click? i am not holding out so people are denied interviews (that's a bit overdramatic anyway, think about it. accusing someone of that says more to me about some people's own self-guilt/alterior motives/penchant for gunnery than anything) and that's why i wanted to interview at MGH and i let the B&W interview go. plus, in all actuality, i can do whatever i darn well please with my interviews.

i'll stop now so as not to inflame this anymore but will remind you that my sarcasm only came out when i was "corrected" about the geography of MGH and i chose to take a little shot of my own. immature of me, yes, and i will only be replying to post interview results from now on.

 

[Etomidate]

True, but I have 10 interviews, 6 of which I would consider to be top-20 programs. I may have my clear-cut number one decided and could not realistically consider moving my family to NYC/SF/Boston

Wow. you already have a clear-cut number one? Either you've gone on a LOT of early interviews or it's a program you've rotated at. I wish I had things figured out this early.

 

[chicamedica]

whoa! chica.

I didn't mean for my sarcasm (and that's what it was) to be hurtful to anyone. as someone who thinks this site is great but doesn't post all the time (hence my late response to this flurry) i hate when threads burn up because people get too sensitive. i have learned, though, that med school types oftentimes just don't get it--they take themselves too seriously.

yes i'm not a fan of boston and yes i probably won't end up there but if given the opportunity to interview then i figure why not, maybe something will click? i am not holding out so people are denied interviews (that's a bit overdramatic anyway, think about it. accusing someone of that says more to me about some people's own self-guilt/alterior motives/penchant for gunnery than anything) and that's why i wanted to interview at MGH and i let the B&W interview go. plus, in all actuality, i can do whatever i darn well please with my interviews.

i'll stop now so as not to inflame this anymore but will remind you that my sarcasm only came out when i was "corrected" about the geography of MGH and i chose to take a little shot of my own. immature of me, yes, and i will only be replying to post interview results from now on.

I never suggested that you're holding out on purpose to deny others an interview. Albeit a joke, you seemed to suggest that you just want the interview to make some kind of a rude statement to the MGH program. Even if it was a sarcastic joke, it's highly insulting to post such a thing on a thread where many people would love to have that interview (as well as rude and disrespectful to the program that extended you this honor).

p.s. no need to categorize any such "med school types" and they "dont get" whatever nonsense you were trying to convey or suggest anyone has alterior motives. . .that's pretty condescending of you. Yes, some of us (if not all) are actually taking this application process pretty seriously. There is a certain etiquette that should be respected, and yes if you can't control that about yourself, better to just post interview results, like you said.

And i'm done with this argument as well. I think I made my point.

 

[Sugar72]

Sorry, but I have to stick up for my home institution. Scott and White is awesome, but they just don't look for the highest board scores, AOA, etc. In previous years they took people with Step 1 of 190's to the high of 260's, based on personality. Personal statements, volunteer work, and all that's on your resume have a huge impact. A majority of programs might not do this, but the residents have a big say in who comes here and who doesn't.

By the way, the only interview about 55-60. So even if you are an awesome candidate, you may not be the one they are looking for...

Good luck for the rest of your interviews, I hope you get what you're looking for and please don't badmouth other programs just because you've gotten the shaft. Every single one of us could do the same. 😉

I am sure idio was not badmouthing Scott and White. I thought I would hear from them too - and I haven't. I'm a little surprised and disappointed too. My brother in law lives in Killeen and we spent some time up there after we evacuated form Katrina and I was looking forward to interviewing there. I am glad to hear this info from you about the program it sounds nice - hope they change their minds and contact me.

 

[Idiopathic]

Sorry, but I have to stick up for my home institution. Scott and White is awesome, but they just don't look for the highest board scores, AOA, etc. In previous years they took people with Step 1 of 190's to the high of 260's, based on personality. Personal statements, volunteer work, and all that's on your resume have a huge impact. A majority of programs might not do this, but the residents have a big say in who comes here and who doesn't.

By the way, the only interview about 55-60. So even if you are an awesome candidate, you may not be the one they are looking for...

Good luck for the rest of your interviews, I hope you get what you're looking for and please don't badmouth other programs just because you've gotten the shaft. Every single one of us could do the same. 😉

I have nothing but respect for S&W. I am surprised, especially since my CV is chock full of all sorts of goodies, not just boards. Im feeling a little defensive, Ill admit, but I dont think I was badmouthing anyone...and now you sound defensive. Maybe you should read my statement and my previous ones to get some context.

I also dont feel entitled to an interview here, Im just surprised. How many residents are in the program? I see 27 residents listed, which adds up to 5-7 per year. This makes it more likely that they could get away with 55-60 interviews. I would wager that any program with 15 residents per year would have to interview nearly 100 just to guarantee filling (even some of the 'top' programs). I wish you well in your training and nothing but the best for your program.

 

[ear-ache]

I think we all need to take a time out (myself included). Tension is running high due to the fact that we are entering the thick of interview season - we are all a little more defensive/thin skinned/sensitive than normal.

I'll check back Monday after a good night sleep. Hopefully myself, and everyone else, will have a better outlook on life.

 

[Idiopathic]

The thread seems to degenerate on the weekends. But, honestly, everyone is keeping the discussion relatively civil, I think...which is not necessarily the norm for SDN 😉

 

[dave262]

I really think it would help if MacGuyver came and started talking about CRNAs...

 

[eagle26]

University of California Irvine today by email. Weird on a sunday.

 

[gasrow]

University of California Irvine today by email. Weird on a sunday.

Same, I also thought that it was strange.

 

[djipopo]

I really think it would help if MacGuyver came and started talking about CRNAs...

ROFLMA

great way to break up the tension dave, thanks 😀