Is it time to stock-up on assault rifles?

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You are welcome to post in here, just like everyone else.

However, the forum culture (for better or for worse) is that you can't roll in here like a tumbleweed for the first time and not get some grief for it.

What Arch means is you're welcome to post here unless he doesn't like it... in which case he will send you criticizing personal messages, and then edit your posts. All while not openly admitting that he is a moderator.
 
so calling muslims "rag heads" makes you intelligent then? what about calling vietnamese "gooks?" or japanese "japs"? how about black people N******? what about white people honkeys? how about in every political discussion we have from now on i start referring to caucasians as honkeys or cracker?

i started out by you werent very classy by calling a group of people an ethnic slur. where do you live that its alright to be in a public forum to make such a reference?

Using a particular phrase neither makes me intelligent or ignorant.......it is a derogatory phrase used to describe a certain group of people who want to kill YOU....why you feel the need to side with them is a mystery to me.

When you questioned whether I was "classy" or not...I questioned why you would side with them...the fu ckers who want to kill us....A legitimate query...

and you call me "ignorant"...wtf?


and finally....why is it that you will spell out "gook"..."honkey"...."rag heads"......"japs"....but star out that last phrase????

so you're ok with the other slurs....but can't bring yourself to slur black people????? WTF?
 
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What Arch means is you're welcome to post here unless he doesn't like it... in which case he will send you criticizing personal messages, and then edit your posts. All while not openly admitting that he is a moderator.

Oh, thank you for explaining.
What else can you teach us??
 
did I say that?

I used that slur because others who I identify with used it.....did I say that there fore it is "ok" for everyone to use it???

if you don't want to use it....don't.....just like ...if you don't want to see porn don't go and see it....but don't tell me what to do.....or judge me for doing it.

It was a yes or no question. I did not tell you what to do or judge you.
 
I personaly think this thread serves no purpose anymore and needs to be closed.
I will do it if no one objects.


I OBJECT....this is one of the most fun threads that I've participated in ...in a long time.
 
The truth of the matter is that through my time spent over there (have any of you been there?) I actually loved many aspects of the culture and the time i spent with the people. I also found things I was repulsed by. Just as I am sure that they would find with our culture.
So did the Marines of 3d Battalion, 25th Marines. I guess it really depends on the job you do there, right?
 
Seriously. It's like a WWE Lumberjack match!!

Dude. That's the sweetest clip ever. How old was that guy who won? He looked as old as my dad. Well, maybe not quite (my dad just turned 60...), but still, how's that guy's back holding up to that kind of beating?

(PS: I know that wrestling is fake, but those guys do take a pounding anyhow, so please don't chastise me for believe in wrestling. 😉)
 
I OBJECT....this is one of the most fun threads that I've participated in ...in a long time.

i have no ill will towards military, so keep the thread open? doesnt bother me in the least.

in other forums i ve posted in posting the "n word" is an automatic vacation for an unspecefied period of time. im not sure if that would be the case here, but i didnt want to just jump in head first. the negative connotation our society has with "gook" and "jap" is not nearly as high as that with black ethnic slurs (at least in the forums i ve surfed on.)
 
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who are those *******?

rowdy roddy versus jimmy snuka in the fiji strap match was the real deal.


***bonus commentator Jesse the Body- very nice.


I was trying to post a rowdy roddy pic, but they were hard to find. I was looking for mass mayhem/action too hard to keep up with.

In searching, though, it looks like he was recently Dx'd with lymphoma.

🙁
 
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So did the Marines of 3d Battalion, 25th Marines. I guess it really depends on the job you do there, right?

I guess you are going to have to first expand on your reference to the Marines of 3/25. And yes the particular job you are assigned makes a difference to some degree.
 
I was trying to post a rowdy roddy pic, but they were hard to find.

hot-rod-dy_l.jpg
 
you'll probably be completely unsurprised to know that my overall feelings haven't significantly changed. Yes, you're absolutely correct that the legitimate insurgent combatants aren't covered by the Geneva Conventions as I read them. And what you suggest does sound eminently fair to them. However, you speak as if you firmly believe that all the Gitmo detainees were combatants. I simply don't believe that.

According to an analysis of the information released by the DoD, only about 5-10% of the detainees were captured by American forces. Many (perhaps as high as 85%) were turned in by bounty hunters for $5,000. To me, this immediately calls into question the process of detaining people. So, if these people are random citizens pulled in by dishonest bounty hunters, the Geneva Conventions most certainly apply (as stated in the Fourth Convention, Part I, Article 4). In which case the provisions at Gitmo are borderline, at best.

I have some faith in the selection process - for lack of a better phrase - for choosing who goes to Guantanamo because I have some (tangential) experience with how prisoners rounded up on the streets of Iraq and Afghanistan get processed. For a brief period in 2006 I was the physician responsible for a small detention facility in Anbar province, and I saw a lot of prisoners go through it. Everything from people who were picked up on vague tips from shady locals to people who were caught burying artillery shells wired to garage door openers at the side of the road. The majority of these people were released with 36 or 48 hours (I don't exactly recall our time deadline to release or refer, but it was short and inflexible). Most of the rest were remanded to the local authorities, who released almost all of them, frequently because we often did a poor job of documenting their crimes with photos and other evidence. A tiny, tiny fraction were sent upstream for further questioning or longer detainment. And most of THEM eventually came back to us for release.

And of the many many thousands of people picked up in Afghanistan or Iraq, how many are in Gitmo? Not many. There's not much room there, and there's no benefit to intel, the war effort, or the propaganda fight if Joe The Iraqi Plumber gets locked up there. So I have some faith that the screening and interrogation process that leads to a Cuban vacation is appropriate. It takes something special to get yourself noticed and deemed worthy of transport and incarceration at Gitmo.

I'm under no illusion that the process is perfect.

pgg, if you'll allow me to wax philosophic for a moment, I think our differences really come down to individual rights vs. the good of the group. I wouldn't argue for a minute that some of the folks in Gitmo don't deserve to be there. I don't remember his name, but I remember one detainee's testimony being that as soon as he was freed he would go back to Afganistan and keep fighting the Americans. Sure, we can't let people like that go.

But I also strongly believe we have at least a handful, maybe more, of innocent people in Gitmo that have been locked up for going on 4-5 years now. To me it's unconscionable that we're detaining these people, even if their sacrifice is keeping others safe. So, I side with individual rights on this one. I think many of the military folk here (not sure if you're included or not), would side with the group good. They've lived and fought and seen friends die in situations where the individual may need to be sacrificed to help the group good, and even further, they were willing to be that individual if necessary. I have huge respect for that because it's a situation I will probably never be in, and it's a situation where I couldn't truly tell you if I'd be willing to be that individual. I understand as best I can where they're coming from, and I respect it. However, I won't agree with that viewpoint when it's used to unfairly detain people and otherwise remove their rights. That's what I think is happening to a unknown extent at Gitmo, and that's why I'm largely against the detentions there.

So, anyhow, it's been fun chatting. Feel free to respond with any thoughts.

I'm firmly on the side of individual rights, even at the expense of public safety.

As a prison and legal construct, I've got no problem with Gitmo. But I do think it's too much of a liability to keep open. I'd rather see everyone there given a public trial, even if it meant that some of the truly bad and evil people went free. We should be pressing the propaganda campaign back at them twice as hard and twice as well. Releasing a bad guy with a public show of excessive fairness would do far more for the overall antiterror effort than making martyrs out of every detainee at Gitmo. At this point, those guys are doing more for the terrorist and insurgent effort as oppressed prisoners than they ever did when they were free to act and fight personally.

I feel almost as bad about the innocent guy locked in Gitmo for 5 years as I do for the civilian whose legs we blew off and family we killed when we JDAM'd the weapons cache across the street from his home. Both are sad and unfortunate, and I lay the responsibility for the suffering of every innocent at the hands of the crazy people who've been hijacking planes and bombing embassies for the last few decades.

It's a messy and imperfect conflict. Innocents on both sides will continue to suffer and die until it's over. But the bottom line is that I just can't get myself worked up over a few particular innocents that might happen to be suffering in Cuba.
 
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Here's a post from a gun site that I peruse fairly frequently, and have even purchased one firearm (a pistol) from in the past... (I think Jetproppilot owns this company... :laugh:)

LAST WEEK WE SOLD OUT VIRTUALLY TO THE BARE WALLS. WE HAD A TON OF INVENTORY LAID IN AND STOCKPILED IN ANTICIPATION OF THE PANIC BUYING THAT WOULD BE CREATED BY THE ELECTION. IT SIMPLY WAS NOT ENOUGH. IF IT SHOOTS OR HOLDS ROUNDS OF AMMO IT PRETTY MUCH LEFT HERE LAST WEEK.
I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT.

AROUND WEDNESDAY OF LAST WEEK WE CHANGED OUR FOCUS FROM SELLING, TO TRYING TO BEG, BUY AND SCROUNGE ANYTHING WE COULD PURCHASE. IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT. MOST OF THE INDUSTRY IS EITHER OUT OF SEMI-AUTO FIREARMS, MAGS, AND AMMO, OR THEY HAVE PUSHED THE PRICE WAY UP IN ORDER TO SLOW SALES AND KEEP FROM BEING WHERE WE BASICALLY ARE NOW. SOLD OUT TO THE BARE WALLS. THE LARGEST IMPORTER IN THE COUNTRY AS OF LAST MONDAY HAS SUSPENDED SALES OF ALL OF THEIR HI-CAPACITY MAGAZINES AND RAISED PRICES ON ENTIRE CLASSES OF FIREARMS BY 25% TO 40% ACROSS THE BOARD. THE PRICE INCREASE IS REALLY IRREVALENT HOWEVER AS THEY HAVE NO AVAILABLE QUANTITIES ON ANY OF THESE FIREARMS.


http://www.classicarms.us/

-copro
 
i have no ill will towards military, so keep the thread open? doesnt bother me in the least.

in other forums i ve posted in posting the "n word" is an automatic vacation for an unspecefied period of time. im not sure if that would be the case here, but i didnt want to just jump in head first. the negative connotation our society has with "gook" and "jap" is not nearly as high as that with black ethnic slurs (at least in the forums i ve surfed on.)

military md is a known racist on this board. He is the archie bunker around these parts. It's comical when he posts his views. Its hard to believe that he ever went to school to critically examine anything. and im certain he is not happy that barack obama is the next president just for the simple fact that he is black. he has openly touted on this board that black people are simply not as capable academically because of their genetics. and by allowing them into higher education we are just appeasing them.

How can you take ANYTHING this guy says seriously?
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/21/us/21guantanamo.html?bl&ex=1227330000&en=cb254b577ccf4790&ei=5087

Judge Orders Five Detainees Freed From Guantánamo

By WILLIAM GLABERSON
Published: November 20, 2008
After the first hearing on the government’s evidence for holding detainees at the Guantánamo Bay detention camp, a federal judge issued the Bush administration a sharp setback on Thursday, ruling that five Algerian men were held unlawfully for nearly seven years and ordering their release.

Profile of the judge:

Judge Leon is a Bush-43 appointed Judge known as a right-wing ideologue and known for ruling in favor of the Government and for expansive executive power. He was Deputy Chief counsel for the Republicans on the Iran-Contra Committee in 1987, was Special Counsel to the Senate Banking Committee for the Whitewater investigation, and worked for both the Reagan and Bush 41 Justice Departments. That Judge Leon -- of all judges -- ruled that there was no credible evidence to suggest that these detainees are "enemy combatants" is as compelling a sign as one can imagine that there is no such evidence.
 
military md is a known racist on this board. He is the archie bunker around these parts. It's comical when he posts his views. Its hard to believe that he ever went to school to critically examine anything. and im certain he is not happy that barack obama is the next president just for the simple fact that he is black. he has openly touted on this board that black people are simply not as capable academically because of their genetics. and by allowing them into higher education we are just appeasing them.

How can you take ANYTHING this guy says seriously?


there is only one answer to an inflammatory, inaccurate post like that....

go blow...you moe
 
its not inflammatory if its true.

Sort of like:

Maceo is our local short, fat, bald guy who has no personality in real life who can't cut it in partnerships, so he's one of those drifting locums who everyone hates but needs if the partners need vacation....

And because he doesn't have a real home and drifts around....and because he is short, fat, and bald....he needs to go to strip joints to get girls to talk to him.....but because he is afraid of catching STD's....he then rents porn to go home to masturbate to.
 
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Just because Dr. Doze thinks that anti-gun legislation is dead...

H.R. 6257: Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008
 
From Obama's Website
http://origin.barackobama.com/issues/urban_policy/#crime-and-law-enforcement

Address Gun Violence in Cities:
As president, Barack Obama would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which restricts the ability of local law enforcement to access important gun trace information, and give police officers across the nation the tools they need to solve gun crimes and fight the illegal arms trade. Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals who shouldn't have them. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent, as such weapons belong on foreign battlefields and not on our streets.
 
yes copro - socialism is here!!! get ready for that. Seems that I choosed the wrong time to join the "free world".
 
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