Is OMT on Life Support?

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Small sample size (~1,700)
78% reported using OMT on <5% of their patients
57% reported using OMT on 0% of their patients

Should DO curriculum and board exam subjects be re-evaluated?

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You could strap the AOA/NBOME/COCA/AACOM to a chair and force them to read every word of this paper and they would still insist on “osteopathic distinctiveness”. The vast, vast majority of DO students want a single licensure exam with MD students, but the above parties put out a joint statement that basically said, “sorry, y’all don’t know what you’re talking about, no way” anyway.
 
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You could strap the AOA/NBOME/COCA/AACOM to a chair and force them to read every word of this paper and they would still insist on “osteopathic distinctiveness”. The vast, vast majority of DO students want a single licensure exam with MD students, but the above parties put out a joint statement that basically said, “sorry, y’all don’t know what you’re talking about, no way” anyway.
There is a 0% chance of me ever using this stuff after med school. I just can’t get behind it. If we used treatments, devices, or pharmaceuticals that have the same level of scientific evidence as OMT we would be killing people left and right, or be doing something that has little to no benefit
 
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Small sample size (~1,700)
78% reported using OMT on <5% of their patients
57% reported using OMT on 0% of their patients

Should DO curriculum and board exam subjects be re-evaluated?
These numbers have been true in all my 20+ years of teaching at a DO school.

It's one of the unsaid things about the profession.

I'm surprised that JOM actually had the backbone to publish that paper. Maybe some good will come of it.

Cue the wailing and gnashing of teeth of the True Believers.
 
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This really gets my CRI pumping
 
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These numbers have been true in all my 20+ years of teaching at a DO school.

It's one of the unsaid things about the profession.

I'm surprised that JOM actually had the backbone to publish that paper. Maybe some good will come of it.

Cue the wailing and gnashing of teeth of the True Believers.
i'm genuinely curious, do you believe that some good will actually come from this? the optimistic part of me is clinging onto some form of hope, but the realist in me knows what will probably actually happen. They'll just ignore and continue swimming in their bags of money and DO student tears
 

Small sample size (~1,700)
78% reported using OMT on 57% reported using OMT on 0% of their patients

Should DO curriculum and board exam subjects be re-evaluated?
Funny thing is people that use OMT are more likely to respond to these surveys. The true number must be close to 90% using it on 0 patients
 
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Honestly I think people really don't get that it's easy money and there's demand for it.

My former coresident is working 40hours and aiming to probably bring in 400k doing OMM. That's more than they could do even straight PCP or as a specialist.
 
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And then there’s the question of validity. Have there been any studies at all that demonstrated OMT is statistically significant with regards to improving patient care? And if so, how did those studies account for human touch? It’s been proven over and over that human touch by itself can improve a person’s sense of well-being, lower stress, improve pain, etc.

One of the most famous studies that included this was the MOPSE Study. If I recall correctly, there was NO significant difference in outcomes between human touch and OMM treatment.
 
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i'm genuinely curious, do you believe that some good will actually come from this? the optimistic part of me is clinging onto some form of hope, but the realist in me knows what will probably actually happen. They'll just ignore and continue swimming in their bags of money and DO student tears
The dreamer in me hopes that the AOA would call for better studies on the efficacy of OMM, but the flip side is that the True Beleivers will say "we have to have MORE time for OMM/OMT!
Honestly I think people really don't get that it's easy money and there's demand for it.

My former coresident is working 40hours and aiming to probably bring in 400k doing OMM. That's more than they could do even straight PCP or as a specialist.
Yup. An OMT Faculty member of mine pointed out that any OMT specialist in a decent area like Great Neck, NY could haul in as much as a dermatologist, and with less overhead. All you need is the OMM table, after all.
 
The dreamer in me hopes that the AOA would call for better studies on the efficacy of OMM, but the flip side is that the True Beleivers will say "we have to have MORE time for OMM/OMT!
There are 40ish osteopathic medical schools, many of them lack clinical research. Its strange that all of these schools dont want to contribute to the Osteopathic field + provide their students with opportunities for research.

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Who wants to be the DO school that publishes a study that OMM has no benefits compared to placebo?
 
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I’d go find the study but there’s somewhere that said OCM shouldn’t even be billable bc it’s not been proven effective.

I mean it's about as effective as some of the other modalities for lower back pain.
And again, it's cash practice. People pay money for it.
 
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There are 40ish osteopathic medical schools, many of them lack clinical research. Its strange that all of these schools dont want to contribute to the Osteopathic field + provide their students with opportunities for research.

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Who wants to be the DO school that publishes a study that OMM has no benefits compared to placebo?
That type of study is what the profession needs to pull it into the 21st Century. There are some techniques that have worth, but the True Believers have to start learning in in real Medicine, if a thing doesn't work, you discard and find something else that does.
 
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That type of study is what the profession needs to pull it into the 21st Century. There are some techniques that have worth, but the True Believers have to start learning in in real Medicine, if a thing doesn't work, you discard and find something else that does.
Its amazing this hasn't happened out of spite yet. I could def see a disgruntled DO students trying to do study like this. I guess it wasnt worth the time
 
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That type of study is what the profession needs to pull it into the 21st Century. There are some techniques that have worth, but the True Believers have to start learning in in real Medicine, if a thing doesn't work, you discard and find something else that does.

Part of the problem is that the "true believers" and almost every educator in most DO schools is largely ill equipped or irrelevant in the medical community. They're not publishing high quality research and they're at best community physicians.

Even at my DO school which was one of the grand old 5 there were only maybe 3 or 4 people who were known beyond local osteopathic associations. And further many neither practice medicine nor were involved in direct resident or fellow education.

This does not compare to even low tier MD programs where your professors are often big names in disease processes, specialized, and very much involved in not only medical education but also in resident and fellow education.

Simply put good DOs who are remotely relevant aren't going to go teach at DO schools because they aren't academic institutes.
 
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Its amazing this hasn't happened out of spite yet. I could def see a disgruntled DO students trying to do study like this. I guess it wasnt worth the time
It's really easy to do! Just pick a complaint, pick your preferred modality, set a end point or objective, and then see what happens! For years, I've tried to get my OMT people to try some cranial or other technique on vets with PTSD.

But no...... I swear, it's like they don't want to test anything for fear of finding out it doesn't work.

I'm not impressed by DrCelty's qualms....all DO schools have basic scientists who know how to set up an experiment, and it's not like we're looking to see if you get tumor regression in adenocarcinoma patients. And there are some good DO schools out there that can pull these things off. They don't have to be Harvard or Yale, and they're not all LMU or LUCOM.
 
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Honestly I think people really don't get that it's easy money and there's demand for it.

My former coresident is working 40hours and aiming to probably bring in 400k doing OMM. That's more than they could do even straight PCP or as a specialist.
Because of 2 reasons: It is boring/sucks and because most of us went into the field to help people rather than provide placebo
 
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It's really easy to do! Just pick a complaint, pick your preferred modality, set a end point or objective, and then see what happens! For years, I've tried to get my OMT people to try some cranial or other technique on vets with PTSD.

But no...... I swear, it's like they don't want to test anything for fear of finding out it doesn't work.

I'm not impressed by DrCelty's qualms....all DO schools have basic scientists who know how to set up an experiment, and it's not like we're looking to see if you get tumor regression in adenocarcinoma patients. And there are some good DO schools out there that can pull these things off. They don't have to be Harvard or Yale, and they're not all LMU or LUCOM.
Yah, but basic scientists aren't the ones who need to want to do this. And by the time you have DOs who are really scientifically minded they've generally moved on to addressing and looking deeper into more interacting pathophysiology and disease processes.

But also again, the community of practicing physicians who do NMM/OMM are not at bigger institutes with money to recruit and do cross institute large studies.

And the studies on OMM whether national or international that have come out have always struck me as poorly done and underfunded and under powered for lack of the above.
 
Yah, but basic scientists aren't the ones who need to want to do this. And by the time you have DOs who are really scientifically minded they've generally moved on to addressing and looking deeper into more interacting pathophysiology and disease processes.

But also again, the community of practicing physicians who do NMM/OMM are not at bigger institutes with money to recruit and do cross institute large studies.

And the studies on OMM whether national or international that have come out have always struck me as poorly done and underfunded and under powered for lack of the above.
Re the bolded: and you know this how?

I swear, Celty, you're almost coming off like my True Believer colleagues. The kind that say "every patient is different, so you have to treat them differently". To which I think, are MI patients all different?

You keep making excuses as to why rigorous tests of OMM won't happen. And my response is that even the students in this thread can come up with some experiments that could be a small pilot project to score $100K out of the AOA, and then aim for a NICAM grant. NICAM is pretty good at funding dubious projects.
 
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Honestly I think people really don't get that it's easy money and there's demand for it.

My former coresident is working 40hours and aiming to probably bring in 400k doing OMM. That's more than they could do even straight PCP or as a specialist.
No it's not
 
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Re the bolded: and you know this how?

I swear, Celty, you're almost coming off like my True Believer colleagues. The kind that say "every patient is different, so you have to treat them differently". To which I think, are MI patients all different?

You keep making excuses as to why rigorous tests of OMM won't happen. And my response is that even the students in this thread can come up with some experiments that could be a small pilot project to score $100K out of the AOA, and then aim for a NICAM grant. NICAM is pretty good at funding dubious projects.

Hardly. I'm just saying that the existing research on OMM when it is published or done by DO schools or osteopathic organizations is often poorly done.

Again, it's about clout. A lot of medicine is a lot of follow the leader rather than everyone individually reading the literature and saying lets or doing things a certain way. We're a field of techniques that get the job done. Basic scientists as such do not play the front line role in the performance or furthering acceptance of techniques. That happens when big institutes decide to go from using crappier approaches, have improved patient satisfaction/morbidity/mortality, and subsequently those protocols accepted by those big institutes are implemented downward at smaller places realize they need to be able to compete with standards and as such approve and accept those new techniques and evidence.

Without that medicine moves too slow.
 
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Yah, but basic scientists aren't the ones who need to want to do this. And by the time you have DOs who are really scientifically minded they've generally moved on to addressing and looking deeper into more interacting pathophysiology and disease processes.

But also again, the community of practicing physicians who do NMM/OMM are not at bigger institutes with money to recruit and do cross institute large studies.

And the studies on OMM whether national or international that have come out have always struck me as poorly done and underfunded and under powered for lack of the above.
Not true. They are choosing not to do the studies. There's an entire department of alternative medicine handing out grants to charlatans. The osteopathic schools are not applying for these grants. I know this because faculty told me
 
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I think the point they're making is that OMM used by itself is often abused as a nice little snake oil trick.
Could be. I'm not a DO so I don't typically get involved in anything OMM since I know next to nothing about it.

But I do know what PCPs can make so I commented on that.
 
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Honestly, the premise of OMT and OMM in general seems very logical. Increase blood/lymphatics by decreasing restriction. I’m only 6 weeks into it and we’ve only learned ST techniques. Some seem bogus while others seem worth it in some sense.

What I’m liking about OMT is the hands on aspect during lab. Regardless of MD/DO, having that familiarity with the body (applying anatomy) and comfort touching classmates (think future patients) seems invaluable.

***This is not an endorsement for OMT
 
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Honestly, the premise of OMT and OMM in general seems very logical. Increase blood/lymphatics by decreasing restriction. I’m only 6 weeks into it and we’ve only learned ST techniques. Some seem bogus while others seem worth it in some sense.

What I’m liking about OMT is the hands on aspect during lab. Regardless of MD/DO, having that familiarity with the body (applying anatomy) and comfort touching classmates (think future patients) seems invaluable.

***This is not an endorsement for OMT
Haha! I remember still being open-minded in first semester. Takes me back.
 
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rumor at my school was that one of our anatomy profs didn't have her contract renewed b/c she was doing research on cranial and her research was showing, in an absolutely massive twist, that the skull bones don't actually move
 
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Forget about OMT… EBM is on life support.

The true goal is promoting and producing research that will change and reinforce the way we practice medicine. Forget the charlatans and the researches taking part of churnalism. I would like to see my DO school produce critical thinkers that can evaluate studies rather than try and produce research on why/how OMM works. I’m shocked by the lack of students/physicians that know how to critique medical journals.
 
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Forget about OMT… EBM is on life support.

The true goal is promoting and producing research that will change and reinforce the way we practice medicine. Forget the charlatans and the researches taking part of churnalism. I would like to see my DO school produce critical thinkers that can evaluate studies rather than try and produce research on why/how OMM works. I’m shocked by the lack of students/physicians that know how to critique medical journals.
This is why I always recommend a rotation on a university teaching , even if it requires using an elective. You are taught how to critically review a journal article.
 
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Is EBM not a COCA requirement? I assumed it was because my school has it, and most people I know hate it. Its done well, but its just another busy work class.
 
Forget about OMT… EBM is on life support.

The true goal is promoting and producing research that will change and reinforce the way we practice medicine. Forget the charlatans and the researches taking part of churnalism. I would like to see my DO school produce critical thinkers that can evaluate studies rather than try and produce research on why/how OMM works. I’m shocked by the lack of students/physicians that know how to critique medical journals.
Wait until you get to residency and realize how many attendings have no clue.
 
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Is EBM not a COCA requirement? I assumed it was because my school has it, and most people I know hate it. Its done well, but its just another busy work class.
If it’s “done well” than it is not a busy work class. Forget requirements or checking a box. It is a primary pillar that sets doctors apart from mid-levels (there are several pillars, but EBM is critical.) EBM is on life support across the entire profession. Medical schools from ALL tiers are pumping out literal idiots. How many students moan when statistics come up?! It’s pathetic. How many high impact journals allow the use of medical writers?! It’s pathetic. How will we decide to change the way we administer care in our specialty/practice? Will we wait until a paper comes out, look at the P-value and say, “welp it’s from Harvard and the P-value says it’s important or something. I’ll change how I treat my patients.” We sacrifice our youth and society pays out the nose to train us… The least we can do is learn statistics and study design so pharmaceutical companies don’t take advantage of our neighbors and families.

/rant over
 
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1. OMT in general has very reasonable evidence. "spinal manipulation" has a lot of research out there (DO, chiro, PT). It is most useful if you are PM&R, OMM spec., Family med, IM, Sports.

2. I am PM&R/Pain Management and there have been countless times I did all the fancy stuff (meds, inj's, etc) and then later try OMM for them and that worked the best and I kicked myself for not doing it first

3. I don't fully understand thus self loathing / shame phenomenon I sometimes see in DO schools and DOs in practice

4. If you don't like the uniqueness of being a DO why did you got to DO school??

5. I will admit that some DO / OMM professors are a bit out there but the core concepts are really not much different than PT and chiro (more advanced in some respects in terms of manip, prob less in terms of exercises), and PT/chiro is VERY well accepted
 
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1. OMT in general has very reasonable evidence. "spinal manipulation" has a lot of research out there (DO, chiro, PT). It is most useful if you are PM&R, OMM spec., Family med, IM, Sports.

2. I am PM&R/Pain Management and there have been countless times I did all the fancy stuff (meds, inj's, etc) and then later try OMM for them and that worked the best and I kicked myself for not doing it first

3. I don't fully understand thus self loathing / shame phenomenon I sometimes see in DO schools and DOs in practice
Very simple. These students feel that they should have been accepted to an MD school, and feel that they had to "settle" for a DO school.
4. If you don't like the uniqueness of being a DO why did you got to DO school??
We often wonder about this a lot
5. I will admit that some DO / OMM professors are a bit out there but the core concepts are really not much different than PT and chiro (more advanced in some respects in terms of manip, prob less in terms of exercises), and PT/chiro is VERY well accepted
The trouble is that the unproven claims tend to get into the realm of unscientific. Chapman's points? Cranial movement??

But as I pointed out earlier, it's very easy to test these hypotheses, and it doesn't have to be on the order of the Framingham heart study either.
 
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1. OMT in general has very reasonable evidence. "spinal manipulation" has a lot of research out there (DO, chiro, PT). It is most useful if you are PM&R, OMM spec., Family med, IM, Sports.

2. I am PM&R/Pain Management and there have been countless times I did all the fancy stuff (meds, inj's, etc) and then later try OMM for them and that worked the best and I kicked myself for not doing it first

3. I don't fully understand thus self loathing / shame phenomenon I sometimes see in DO schools and DOs in practice

4. If you don't like the uniqueness of being a DO why did you got to DO school??

5. I will admit that some DO / OMM professors are a bit out there but the core concepts are really not much different than PT and chiro (more advanced in some respects in terms of manip, prob less in terms of exercises), and PT/chiro is VERY well accepted
I think most people have this negative stigma of OMM because everything is required to be taught to us, including the stuff that seems way out there and has no evidence of even working in virtually any setting. That and the additional costs it takes to take the additional exams, constantly being compared to our MD counterparts and being thought of as inferior, despite our curriculum being the same, excluding OMM, and the people who are in charge of our organizations refuse to bring this specialty into the modern age and continue to parade around these techniques as if we found the secret to everlasting youth or something. In reality, there probably are some techniques that do work and I would trust a doctor doing OMM versus a chiropractor attempting to cure someone's diabetes by cracking someone's neck (I see these types of chiropractors all over instagram). I just don't like the state of some things and can understand why people are disillusioned with being a DO. A lot of people who went to DO school just want to be a doctor. The DO degree can provide that. There's just certain aspects that I'm not a fan of (particularly some of the clinical rotation sites being inferior compared to some of our MD counterparts and COCA's standards being virtually nonexistent compared to LCME in addition to everything else I mentioned earlier). Some things can be fixed, other's will take a lot of work.
 
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Have to agree with macman. I would like to see the OMT curriculum reduced to MSK interventions, but there are data that support those interventions for MSK stuff. Cranial, Chapmans needs to be axed and everyone I think agrees on this. I have seen pts addicted to opioids get off them when tx with OMT--that's powerful and I think worth saving. Maybe there is a future where DO schools become (as if they are not already, but more officially) the model to produce primary care physicians, who will incorporate OMT in practice. The study reported about half of the respondents were in primary care, but it doesn't break down how they responded as far as percentage utilized. It did note that "lack of time" was the most significant barrier to performing OMT, and in primary care that makes perfect sense with our "move the meat" healthcare model.
 
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If it’s “done well” than it is not a busy work class. Forget requirements or checking a box. It is a primary pillar that sets doctors apart from mid-levels (there are several pillars, but EBM is critical.) EBM is on life support across the entire profession. Medical schools from ALL tiers are pumping out literal idiots. How many students moan when statistics come up?! It’s pathetic. How many high impact journals allow the use of medical writers?! It’s pathetic. How will we decide to change the way we administer care in our specialty/practice? Will we wait until a paper comes out, look at the P-value and say, “welp it’s from Harvard and the P-value says it’s important or something. I’ll change how I treat my patients.” We sacrifice our youth and society pays out the nose to train us… The least we can do is learn statistics and study design so pharmaceutical companies don’t take advantage of our neighbors and families.

/rant over
Absolutely agree with the above. EBM seems to be the new cult. In medicine, it's really not EBM, but Best Evidence Based Medicine to date, as new data continues to comes up. I have posted several references to OMM papers published in major peer reviewed journals in the past. Yet, people continue to claim there is no EBM to suggest OMM is effective . Chiropractor parking lots are full and people with OMM practices are quite successful. Why? Patients feel better when they leave the office. Yet, these same complainers would write a script for Adderall for someone with ADHD in 2 seconds. The last time I looked into it, there is no diagnosis in the DSM that has had more studies published about it than ADHD. Yet, the EBM has yet to suggest that long term outcomes, with respect to addiction, anti social behavior, graduation, etc., are improved with stimulants. The only benefit appears to be reduction in symptoms. So the patients feel better with OMM... AND ..stimulants, but one is quackery and the other is EBM? Sorry, but it can't be both ways.
/Rant over.
 
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I was going to complain that it seems like osteopathic techniques and principles were all invented and then osteopaths have been trying to find evidence to prove their effectiveness after the fact. Then I remembered that's probably the majority of modern medicine. But still, stuff like the cranial bones moving is proof of that to some extent in osteopathic medicine.
 
I was going to complain that it seems like osteopathic techniques and principles were all invented and then osteopaths have been trying to find evidence to prove their effectiveness after the fact.
Tell me about it!!! Cranial may indeed ve useful in some modality, but those bones don't move.

I keep trying to tell my colleagues that there must be another explanation as to efficacy but the True Believers won't hear of it!
 
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This is nothing new. Almost identical article was done 10-15 yrs ago showing that <50% of DOs use OMT at all on any patients and >75% of DOs use it on less than 25% of their patients. This is likely a big function of the specialties that DOs go in to. Outside of PM&R and FM, the vast majority of other specialists will simply not have the patient base or opportunity to practice OMT with any regularity. Is the psychiatrist going to be doing suboccipital release on their patients or the hospitalist spending 30-45 min extra with one patient working on their back pain? Its just not realistic in a lot of specialties

Every time these posts come up its always the same stuff. Why don't DOs study OMT more? They and others actually do study it but the journals are either going to be low-impact factor ones like JAOA or very specialty specific studies. So far the data tends to show some benefit, but only on the same level as other modalities like NSAIDs. In addition, like with any procedural studies, its very difficult to effectively do a sham and guarantee that the action of the sham is truly a placebo or not resulting in some effect where you might expect improvement.

As far as whether that's all placebo or not, honestly you will be shocked to find how little evidence there is in a ton of medical treatments and many are placebo (or worse). Seen any knee arthroscopies lately? As far as a modality, most OMT is relatively low risk and seems to be very helpful for some people. Now whether they would get the same effect with a massage is anyone's guess, but its not like massages are free either. For me it falls into CAM treatment along with acupuncture. Cranial on the other hand is ridiculous.

Also it should be noted that even the ACGME has established a Residency Review Committee specifically for the specialty of OMM/NMM, so they at least are OK with it being a specialty in its own right.
 
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DO schools were the backdoor way to becoming a physician (after failing to enter into a MD school; most of them qualified to enter MD schools in the first place); they touted a pathway to PCP/preventative/holistic care. They sold the OMT idea to students. Its just an idea. However, when they started opening more schools than were DO residency spots, they were forced to seek LCME/AMA/ACGME validation of their medical school training/residency programs (by letting them take USMLEs and obtaining ACGME accreditation). The OMT idea became more and more obsolete. Probably more than half of DO med students are eligible/apply for the NRMP match. DO students overwhelmingly want to/will practice allopathic medicine after residency. Here is my take, convert all DO schools into MD and then OMT can be a fellowship after IM or FM or Peds residency. Like many have already mentioned above, AOA/AACOM will not bulge to this idea because they want to continue to make the money generated from these DO students. The DO degree is a total misnomer. Over 95% of their education is allopathic and not OMT. Hence, their knowledge on OMT imo does not qualify for a doctoral degree. MD would be the correct degree for these DO students. Also, I think that a chiropractor is more of a DO than a DO is a DO.
 
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DO schools were the backdoor way to becoming a physician (after failing to enter into a MD school; most of them qualified to enter MD schools in the first place); they touted a pathway to PCP/preventative/holistic care. They sold the OMT idea to students. Its just an idea. However, when they started opening more schools than were DO residency spots, they were forced to seek LCME/AMA/ACGME validation of their medical school training/residency programs (by letting them take USMLEs and obtaining ACGME accreditation).
The DO degree was not established as a "backdoor", it was established as an alternative form of medicine along with the other alternative types that started around the same time. It wasn't until WW2 that DOs really started getting more traction as far of practice rights due to their involvement in military medicine. There was a time when DOs only trained at DO residencies and there were sufficient residencies for them, but about half of them were in CA and in the 1960s when the MD and DO physician organizations in CA merged all of those DO schools and residencies transitioned to MD schools and residencies. DOs struggled to get consistent training (which at that time was really just a rotational internship with very few actual residencies) and they were in a deficit since then. The AOA (and probably more so DOs) lobbied along with IMGs in the 1970s and 1980s to get access to ACGME (AMA and then, when it was established, ACGME) residencies, but generally they pushed more for expansion of their own residencies (which improved but never met demand) than interest in ACGME residencies.

Prior to the 1970s/early 1980s, people did not really go to DO schools as a back-up/back-door but because they believed in the goal/mission (or because their parents were DOs). That's why you'll see all these hardcore believers in that age group. It really wasn't until the mid to late 1990s that it truly became a place where the majority of the classes were made up of people that couldn't get into MD schools ("a backdoor"). And then of course like you said, schools proliferated, residencies (which already weren't sufficient) couldn't keep up even more, and about 12 yrs ago the AOA looked at ways to negotiate a merger.

The DO degree is a total misnomer. Over 95% of their education is allopathic and not OMT. Hence, their knowledge on OMT imo does not qualify for a doctoral degree. MD would be the correct degree for these DO students.
So interestingly (and I'm sure you learned this along with a host of ridiculous facts in MS1), Still never wanted a doctoral degree. KCOM was issued charter from the state for the MD degree, and he sent it back requesting a "Diplomat of Osteopathy" degree instead. Its only later that it was converted to a doctorate, I suspect to garner more validated or recognition in the eyes of the general public.

Also obviously "traditional medicine" in the late 1800s was problematic, so an alternative actually seemed reasonable, but even as early as the 1900s DOs were discussing merging the MD and DO degrees after it became clear that significant advances in pharmacology can really help patients (even before it was necessarily taught at all DO schools). This view was obviously pushed back upon by Still and the diehards. I believe it was either the president of the AOA or Dean of ASO (old KCOM) at the time that even mentioned it in a general address in front of Still (he was quickly replaced).

Anyway its all history and is kind of irrelevant now like you said. I don't feel strongly one way or another about changing the degree, because while it would be simpler from a public understanding standpoint, practically it doesn't matter after residency. While I don't care, I do think for students it would be more reasonable to have an osteopathic "certificate" and separate smaller exam alongside the USMLE for osteopathic school students than keeping things the way they are. I won't hold my breath for that one though.
 
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