Is there a way out of HPSP???

[CaptKirk]

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Okay... so I have this friend... I know what you're all thinking but yes, it really is a friend. I actually did apply for HPSP but I was excluded for health reasons for which I am now grateful.

Anyway, I have a friend who is doing HPSP. It is becoming more and more clear everyday that this is not the life my friend wants. I'd get into it more but it's not really important. I'm just wondering... is there any way out of the military after you've signed / accepted the HPSP and are in your 3rd-4th year of medical school? I would appreciate serious responses, I know this topic begs for some jokes but I am looking for factual information. Thanks and I appreciate your help.

 

[backrow]

Disclaimer: this post will be of no help

I've heard pulling a Terrel Owens will get you out. Other than that I think they're stuck as has been discussed in several other threads

 

[MedicalCorpse]

Anyway, I have a friend who is doing HPSP. It is becoming more and more clear everyday that this is not the life my friend wants. I'd get into it more but it's not really important. I'm just wondering... is there any way out of the military after you've signed / accepted the HPSP and are in your 3rd-4th year of medical school? I would appreciate serious responses, I know this topic begs for some jokes but I am looking for factual information. Thanks and I appreciate your help.

I would not ask (this question).
I would not tell (you any means to avoid fulfilling contractual service to one's country).
I would not pursue (this course of action any further).

I *certainly* wouldn't (use your imagination) on videotape, under any circumstances.

Sorry, can't help you.

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R
http://www.medicalcorpse.com

 

[Croooz]

Nothing legal or at least nothing that won't either cost them their soul or get them in trouble on the civilian side as well. Your friend made a choice and now has to deal with the circumstances. Part of being an adult. I hate it for them but best for them to look at how to make the most of it than scam their way out of a contract.

BTW this question gets asked quite a bit and the answers never change.

 

[DropkickMurphy]

I would not ask (this question).
I would not tell (you any means to avoid fulfilling contractual service to one's country).
I would not pursue (this course of action any further).

I *certainly* wouldn't (use your imagination) on videotape, under any circumstances.

Sorry, can't help you.

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R
http://www.medicalcorpse.com

Or if he doesn't want to do that.....he could always loose a leg in a horrible "accident".

 

[MedicalCorpse]

Or if he doesn't want to do that.....he could always loose a leg in a horrible "accident".

That would hurt for the rest of his incarnation. Other options would hurt for a far shorter duration. The choice, of course, is up to the person who signed on the dotted line.

In the end, regardless of my negative postings regarding the moribund state of military medicine, I would have to advise your friend to suck it up, do his or her contractual duty to our country, and get out as soon as possible thereafter. All other options are less honorable.

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R
http://www.medicalcorpse.com
Served the USAF from Sep 1981-Jun 2005...and left with nothing.

 

[IgD]

Here is my advice: Act enthusiastic about military medicine and do the best job you possibly can. People will think you are crazy, leave you alone and give you anything you want including your choice of speciality training. That way you can get out the quickest way possible.

 

[USAFdoc]

That would hurt for the rest of his incarnation. Other options would hurt for a far shorter duration. The choice, of course, is up to the person who signed on the dotted line.

In the end, regardless of my negative postings regarding the moribund state of military medicine, I would have to advise your friend to suck it up, do his or her contractual duty to our country, and get out as soon as possible thereafter. All other options are less honorable.

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R
http://www.medicalcorpse.com
Served the USAF from Sep 1981-Jun 2005...and left with nothing.

If you stay, then do a great job. Just because the military sucks at running a healhtcare program doesnt mean you have to lose your integrity and demand for excellence (like military medicine) and lower your standards too. Do the time and get out.

The second part of the tough question is do you "battle" with admin along the way or do you sing the USAF fight song and be their poster child (deceptively) until you separate.😍

 

[CaptKirk]

Nothing legal or at least nothing that won't either cost them their soul or get them in trouble on the civilian side as well. Your friend made a choice and now has to deal with the circumstances. Part of being an adult. I hate it for them but best for them to look at how to make the most of it than scam their way out of a contract.

BTW this question gets asked quite a bit and the answers never change.

BTW no matter how much things may seem not to change, they actually do over time. It's kind of inevitable. Given that, even questions similar to or the same as ones previously asked do have some marginal probability of garnering the perspectives of individuals who perhaps did not respond to the question when it was asked before.

I really don't understand the insipid need to point out questions that have been asked before on this board. If only completely new questions are to be valid, we might as well archive this entire site and shut down the posting system. Jesus.

 

[Croooz]

Explain to me how have things changed in getting out of any contract. Once you sign you have 3 days and after that you are locked in. No different for the military.

How much time does it take for things to change in getting out of a HPSP contract? From the time I worked with recruiters back in 90 there are only certain things one can do to get out. None of them are legal and can get your friend in trouble. I believe that doing 4 years for the military is better than not ever getting to practice medicine.

You are asking for a legal way to get out of a contract. There are none. The jokes on you...I mean your "friend". 🙄

Keep asking. It's always fun to see how many ways "no" can be posted.

BTW no matter how much things may seem not to change, they actually do over time. It's kind of inevitable. Given that, even questions similar to or the same as ones previously asked do have some marginal probability of garnering the perspectives of individuals who perhaps did not respond to the question when it was asked before.

I really don't understand the insipid need to point out questions that have been asked before on this board. If only completely new questions are to be valid, we might as well archive this entire site and shut down the posting system. Jesus.

 

[militarymd]

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Keep asking. It's always fun to see how many ways "no" can be posted.

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[CaptKirk]

Explain to me how have things changed in getting out of any contract. Once you sign you have 3 days and after that you are locked in. No different for the military.

How much time does it take for things to change in getting out of a HPSP contract? From the time I worked with recruiters back in 90 there are only certain things one can do to get out. None of them are legal and can get your friend in trouble. I believe that doing 4 years for the military is better than not ever getting to practice medicine.

You are asking for a legal way to get out of a contract. There are none. The jokes on you...I mean your "friend". 🙄

Keep asking. It's always fun to see how many ways "no" can be posted.

If it was me I would say so. I have the loans to prove it's not... (well over 100k for just two years of medical school). As I said, the military didn't want me, asthma history plus failed PFT (by their standards) as well as a past surgery as a result of which there is still metal screws in place.

Thank you for pointing out that the answer to my question does not change, now I know that. Point in fact, if it was me, and if I had signed the HPSP contract, I wouldn't have to ask this question because I'd be able to refer to the contract. However, since I haven't and don't have a copy of the contract HPSPer's sign, I asked here. Thanks for your help.

 

[navdoc47]

I recommend lots of skiing. Odds are you will eventually blow out your knee, at which point you'll likely get out of military medicine if this occurs prior to med school graduation. This is completely legal, albeit potentially painful.

 

[The White Coat Investor]

I recommend lots of skiing. Odds are you will eventually blow out your knee, at which point you'll likely get out of military medicine if this occurs prior to med school graduation. This is completely legal, albeit potentially painful.

I tried that...40 ski days a year as an MSI and MSII. Didn't work. Should have tightened my bindings or something.

 

[bogatyr]

I've posted before that 2 females ahead of me at school got out of Army HPSP while still in med school (after having attended OBC). I have no idea what they did or how as they wouldn't discuss it with me one iota.

 

[backrow]

I've posted before that 2 females ahead of me at school got out of Army HPSP while still in med school (after having attended OBC). I have no idea what they did or how as they wouldn't discuss it with me one iota.

Do you have the video by chance? 😀

 

[Croooz]

That's what I was thinking. Pretty convenient that they both got out....there has to be a video.

Do you have the video by chance? 😀

 

[iatrosB]

That's what I was thinking. Pretty convenient that they both got out....there has to be a video.

I'm sure you can find it on the internet if you look hard enough!