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Hey guys I have a quick question. Do you think gen chem 1 with general bio 1 + college physics / all 3 labs with each class as well as pre calc too much?

*** all in a community college
 
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I guess it depends on your study habits. It's an interesting schedule for sure...are you an incoming freshman or are you just taking a post-bac to get all the pre-reqs done? If you have good study habits and can spend the time, it wouldn't be horrible. None of the classes themselves are too hard, but the labs would eat away a lot of time during the week.
 
You don't want to do your pre-reqs at a CC. It will give you a major headache down the road.
 
I guess it depends on your study habits. It's an interesting schedule for sure...are you an incoming freshman or are you just taking a post-bac to get all the pre-reqs done? If you have good study habits and can spend the time, it wouldn't be horrible. None of the classes themselves are too hard, but the labs would eat away a lot of time during the week.

Yeah incoming freshmen, I'm taking college algebra and prep chemistry in summer. I'm thinking if prep chem is too much I might have to do some changing. And I'm trying to get some of my pre-reqs done and I'm trying to get out of the community college asap but with good grades.... 4.0 would be very cute but I get bad grades for English... Everything else is A *knocks on wood*
 
You don't want to do your pre-reqs at a CC. It will give you a major headache down the road.

Yeah I'm planning on getting a lot of my pre-reqs out of the way, perhaps I should lighten the schedule up a bit and save them for the university...
 
You don't want to do your pre-reqs at a CC. It will give you a major headache down the road.
PLEASE heed this woman's advice. It was the biggest mistake I made and I'm paying for it with a year of my life because I didn't get in anywhere. Just take them at a university.

However, no it would not be too much to handle if you do decide to take them.
 
That's a pretty standard lineup for freshman year. Mine was Bio, Chem, Physics (all with labs), Calc, and Psych. Also ditto to what others were about CC.
 
PLEASE heed this woman's advice. It was the biggest mistake I made and I'm paying for it with a year of my life because I didn't get in anywhere. Just take them at a university.

However, no it would not be too much to handle if you do decide to take them.

So how far do I want to go with my pre-reqs? Which ones should I take at the community college
 
So how far do I want to go with my pre-reqs? Which ones should I take at the community college

At the community college? If I were you, I'd take Intro Bio 1+2 at the cc in your second year (because you can take upper level bio classes at a 4 year school and intro bio will certainly be a prereq for that...if you don't take intro bio before you transfer, you won't be able to take the upper level bios that some schools require on time). Get all of your gen eds out of the way (do research on the 4 year school you will be attending and figure out what gen eds they require) so you can focus on the important stuff (A's in science classes and finishing your major) when you get to the 4 year school. I wouldn't take any other prerequisites at a CC.

Then the summer after your second cc year (right before you transfer to a 4 year school), take Gen Chem 1+2 at a 4 year college (at a 4 year college! NOT CC!). That way you'll be able to take Organic Chem 1+2 your first year after you transfer (so in your third year overall) and Physics 1+2 in your final year. Since this plan involves taking Bio 1+2 before you transfer to a 4 year school, you will be able to take upper level bio prerequisite classes after you transfer (biochemistry, cell biology, genetics, and physiology are the basics that some dental schools will require as prerequisites and will show that you can do bio at the 4 year college level).

My plan will get you done in 4 years with only Intro Bio taken at the CC level (which is no big deal because you'll be taking upper level bios at the 4 year school).



This is the plan I am proposing:

-First year of CC:
  • General Education Requirements for your 4 year school
  • If you have time, some classes that will transfer for your major (make sure they will transfer), no prereqs tho so you'll probably not want to pick a science major
-Summer after first year of CC:
  • Work on your EC's extra hard. You should be working on these from Day 1 and throughout the entire process, but use vacation time (summers, winter breaks) to work on EC's harder than usual.

    This can mean having a part-time job over breaks--that will allow you to earn money and counts as an EC. I personally would focus on studying and not working much during the semester, but earning extra money on breaks is nice.

    In addition to the usual (shadowing, volunteering), find things to do that you love and are passionate about. Once you find things you are passionate about, work on becoming a leader in those activities--ex. if you like helping young low income youth, look into being a Jumpstart corps member, then become a team leader the next year, then a program assistant, etc. You want to work your way up into leadership positions in at least one activity that you are passionate about...that's where you show dedication and get leadership experience.
-Second year of CC:
  • Finish up your gen eds so you don't waste time at the 4 year school
  • More major classes that will transfer
  • Take Intro Bio 1+2
-Summer after second year of CC:
  • Take Gen Chem 1+2 at a 4 year college
-3rd year (after you transfer to 4 year school):
  • Take Organic 1+2
  • Take Genetics
  • Take Cell Biology or Physiology (pick one for this year depending on which one will help you more for the DAT...also take one of the bio classes in the fall and one in the spring...take genetics in one semester and cell bio/physio in the other...don't do both in the same semester, splitting it so you're now taking 2 science classes per semester + your major classes is a good balance)
  • Classes for your major
-Summer after 3rd year:
  • Study for DAT and take the exam
  • Apply to dental school
-4th year (last year):
  • Take Physics 1+2
  • Take Biochemistry
  • Take Physiology or Cell Biology (whichever one you didn't take...again, take biochem in one semester and physio/cell bio in th other)
  • Finish your major
  • Get into dental school :luck:

Notes:
-General Education Requirements: these are classes in categories (the categories I am listing are examples from my college, yours might differ slightly) such as English, Math, Western Civilization, Non-Western Culture, Foreign Language, etc that are required to graduate from the 4 year college, but are not necessarily going to be part of your major or the science classes you need to take. When you get to your 4 year college you will focus on two things, dental prerequisites and finishing your major, so you want to get your gen eds out of the way ASAP, which is why you'll do them at the CC.
-PICK THE EASIEST MAJOR YOU CAN FINISH. My plan already has you taking plenty of science classes to get into dental school. You don't need to do a science major. What you need is a major that you can finish on time, are going to get good grades in, and something you are are interested in. Seriously pick something that is easy and you will get good grades in. You'll thank me when you have more time to focus on the science classes I listed.
-Always remember good grades in science classes are the most important, but you want a good overall GPA. This is why you ideally want an easier major. An easier major will allow you to focus on getting A's in the sciences while also getting a good overall GPA. It will also give you more time for extracurriculars, the basic categories of which are: volunteering, leadership experience, and shadowing experience.
-Do research on the prerequisites for the dental schools you are interested in. I think I cover all bases for prerequisites, but I might be forgetting something.
-Make sure your extracurriculars are good. Start working on them right away.
-Make sure to form good relationships with your professors (especially science ones) so you can get great recommendations. Come in to office hours regularly to ask a couple of questions and chat with the professor. If you find an interesting and pertinent article that the professor would be interested in, forward it to them. Form a relationship with them. You want them to think you're smart and like you enough so that they will be your advocates when they write your LOR's.
-Most importantly work hard and have fun.
 
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Last edited by AllHasOne; Yesterday at 06:03 PM. Reason: forgot to add in a community college since it may be soo "different" than a university

Listen, it's not our fault that dental schools look down on community college credits. Don't get sassy with us; we don't make the policies. We are only trying to help you by letting you know so that you can cover your bases instead of finding out later.

Here are some examples of these policies. Again, we didn't write them.

From Tufts Dental School:
All pre-requisite coursework must be completed at an accredited 4 year college/university. Community college coursework is not accepted.

From Boston University Dental School:
Up to 30 credits of community college work will be accepted, but community college coursework may not be applied to science prerequisites (biology, inorganic chemistry, organic chemistry, physics). Science prerequisite courses must be completed at a four-year U.S./Canadian college or university.

From UCLA Dental School:
Limitations on accredited community college course work: only 70 semester or 105 quarter units will be accepted.

From Oregon Health&Science University Dental School:
...it is highly recommended that you complete the required basic science courses at a four-year university.

From Meharry Medical College's School of Dentistry:
...prerequisite, upper-level basic science courses (organic chemistry and biochemistry) and the recommended courses— microbiology, anatomy, physiology and cell biology—should be taken at an accredited four-year college or university.
 
Oh, I'm sure they ALL recommend it! 🙂 I'd much rather be safe than sorry and not take ANY pre-requisites at a CC.
 
Oh, I'm sure they ALL recommend it! 🙂 I'd much rather be safe than sorry and not take ANY pre-requisites at a CC.

Yeah. Playing it safe is good.

I think taking intro bio at a cc is totally fine if you take upper levels at the 4 yr school (you pretty much have to take upper level bio classes to apply broadly anyway). That's why I suggested it. If the OP really wants to be super safe, he/she can take intro bio at a 4 yr college over the 1st summer, but I really don't think that's necessary bc schools generally accept some cc credit and by taking upper level classes you're proving yoy can handle rigorous material in the subject matter. The rest of the prereqs should be taken at 4 yr schools, though, bc who wants to take upper level chem/physics stuff if they're not a major?
 
The best thing to do is to look at the dental school's websites that you are interested in. Most list which courses are acceptable to take at a community collegel level. About your schedule I would suggest going ahead and taking Bio 1&2, Gen Chem 1&2, precalc, and another gen. ed course. I would wait to take physics til at least your second year. Some people even wait to take physics til their senior year, since it isn't required for the DAT. Going to a community college does limit some of the schools you can apply to, but most of those schools charge outrageous tuition rates so they weren't of any interest to me anyways. I also went to a community college before transferring to a university and was accepted to my top choice. Make sure to get involved in volunteer work in your community. Also look into any clubs you may be interested in. Getting involved now will help you in the long run.
 
Hey guys I have a quick question. Do you think gen chem 1 with general bio 1 + college physics / all 3 labs with each class as well as pre calc too much?

*** all in a community college
No one can answer this definitively because we don't know ur studying habbits, we don't know how difficult those professors are, and we don't know how naturally gifted (or slow) your comprehension is....
 
I think that sounds like cake, but I've been in school for seven years.
 
At the community college? If I were you, I'd take Intro Bio 1+2 at the cc in your second year (because you can take upper level bio classes at a 4 year school and intro bio will certainly be a prereq for that...if you don't take intro bio before you transfer, you won't be able to take the upper level bios that some schools require on time). Get all of your gen eds out of the way (do research on the 4 year school you will be attending and figure out what gen eds they require) so you can focus on the important stuff (A's in science classes and finishing your major) when you get to the 4 year school. I wouldn't take any other prerequisites at a CC.

Then the summer after your second cc year (right before you transfer to a 4 year school), take Gen Chem 1+2 at a 4 year college (at a 4 year college! NOT CC!). That way you'll be able to take Organic Chem 1+2 your first year after you transfer (so in your third year overall) and Physics 1+2 in your final year. Since this plan involves taking Bio 1+2 before you transfer to a 4 year school, you will be able to take upper level bio prerequisite classes after you transfer (biochemistry, cell biology, genetics, and physiology are the basics that some dental schools will require as prerequisites and will show that you can do bio at the 4 year college level).

My plan will get you done in 4 years with only Intro Bio taken at the CC level (which is no big deal because you'll be taking upper level bios at the 4 year school).



This is the plan I am proposing:

-First year of CC:
  • General Education Requirements for your 4 year school
  • If you have time, some classes that will transfer for your major (make sure they will transfer), no prereqs tho so you'll probably not want to pick a science major
-Summer after first year of CC:
  • Work on your EC's extra hard. You should be working on these from Day 1 and throughout the entire process, but use vacation time (summers, winter breaks) to work on EC's harder than usual.

    This can mean having a part-time job over breaks--that will allow you to earn money and counts as an EC. I personally would focus on studying and not working much during the semester, but earning extra money on breaks is nice.

    In addition to the usual (shadowing, volunteering), find things to do that you love and are passionate about. Once you find things you are passionate about, work on becoming a leader in those activities--ex. if you like helping young low income youth, look into being a Jumpstart corps member, then become a team leader the next year, then a program assistant, etc. You want to work your way up into leadership positions in at least one activity that you are passionate about...that's where you show dedication and get leadership experience.
-Second year of CC:
  • Finish up your gen eds so you don't waste time at the 4 year school
  • More major classes that will transfer
  • Take Intro Bio 1+2
-Summer after second year of CC:
  • Take Gen Chem 1+2 at a 4 year college
-3rd year (after you transfer to 4 year school):
  • Take Organic 1+2
  • Take Genetics
  • Take Cell Biology or Physiology (pick one for this year depending on which one will help you more for the DAT...also take one of the bio classes in the fall and one in the spring...take genetics in one semester and cell bio/physio in the other...don't do both in the same semester, splitting it so you're now taking 2 science classes per semester + your major classes is a good balance)
  • Classes for your major
-Summer after 3rd year:
  • Study for DAT and take the exam
  • Apply to dental school
-4th year (last year):
  • Take Physics 1+2
  • Take Biochemistry
  • Take Physiology or Cell Biology (whichever one you didn't take...again, take biochem in one semester and physio/cell bio in th other)
  • Finish your major
  • Get into dental school :luck:

Notes:
-General Education Requirements: these are classes in categories (the categories I am listing are examples from my college, yours might differ slightly) such as English, Math, Western Civilization, Non-Western Culture, Foreign Language, etc that are required to graduate from the 4 year college, but are not necessarily going to be part of your major or the science classes you need to take. When you get to your 4 year college you will focus on two things, dental prerequisites and finishing your major, so you want to get your gen eds out of the way ASAP, which is why you'll do them at the CC.
-PICK THE EASIEST MAJOR YOU CAN FINISH. My plan already has you taking plenty of science classes to get into dental school. You don't need to do a science major. What you need is a major that you can finish on time, are going to get good grades in, and something you are are interested in. Seriously pick something that is easy and you will get good grades in. You'll thank me when you have more time to focus on the science classes I listed.
-Always remember good grades in science classes are the most important, but you want a good overall GPA. This is why you ideally want an easier major. An easier major will allow you to focus on getting A's in the sciences while also getting a good overall GPA. It will also give you more time for extracurriculars, the basic categories of which are: volunteering, leadership experience, and shadowing experience.
-Do research on the prerequisites for the dental schools you are interested in. I think I cover all bases for prerequisites, but I might be forgetting something.
-Make sure your extracurriculars are good. Start working on them right away.
-Make sure to form good relationships with your professors (especially science ones) so you can get great recommendations. Come in to office hours regularly to ask a couple of questions and chat with the professor. If you find an interesting and pertinent article that the professor would be interested in, forward it to them. Form a relationship with them. You want them to think you're smart and like you enough so that they will be your advocates when they write your LOR's.
-Most importantly work hard and have fun.

So much good information, thank you so much!

Also I'm thinking that I should just take gen bio 1/2 + pre calc / calc 1 this coming fall / spring and this summer i'll be taking prep chemistry because I never took it and general chem 1 / 2 in the summer at the university
 
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