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[junior surg]

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CongraTs buddy
are you a first or a senior resident
I didn't even open the big Shmouh how's did u get your 99 lol
and you are the first to get it man
share the score and percentile rank please
I am killed by anxiety here
congrats again

 

[junior surg]

Lord Jervis good luck

 

[junior surg]

good job lord Jeebus

 

[lord_jeebus]

Lord Jervis I saw your old posts you are just a medical student
full of ****

You mean the ones from two years ago, when I was a medical student?

Did you bypass medical school on your way to residency? Also, what is a Shmouh?

 

[Plead the Fifth]

Did I miss something or are there no norm tables for this exam? My results just had a breakdown of individual subjects with my score in each, and then a 50th, 75th, and 90th percentile score to compare my score with. There was no table to convert the 2-digit score to a percentile rank.

 

[Bertelman]

You did miss something. Ask your PD for the table.

Or, you can post your score and I'll convert it for you

😀

 

[bruins2008]

whats the % for a scaled score of 32 for a CA1

 

[junior surg]

32 means you passed congrats man
do you mind telling me what your percent correct answers and if you have the norm table can you post it
still no reesults for us so far
anybody there got their score back please share

 

[bruins2008]

i just got my score back,;but dont have access to the norm table or percent correct yet

 

[junior surg]

ask your program director or one of youer senior residents or chiefs they will have it
anxiety is killing me 32 is good man go party

 

[lord_jeebus]

whats the % for a scaled score of 32 for a CA1

32 is 84th percentile among CA-1s, nice work!

 

[smgilles]

32 is 84th percentile among CA-1s, nice work!

We got our scores back yesterday. Very pleased 👍 Basically used old ITE's, Chantigan & Hall, and Morgan & Mihkail (sp?).

 

[bruins2008]

32 is 84th percentile among CA-1s, nice work!

thanks lord jeebus

 

[junior surg]

hey Bruins any other news of the norm tables congrats again i am also a Ca_1 waiting for the damn thing
thanks

 

[Arch Guillotti]

32 means you passed congrats man

What are you basing this on?

When I took it after my CA1 year I was told that 34 was "maybe" passing.

 

[lord_jeebus]

I think what people refer to as "passing" is the CA-3 20th percentile, based on a historical written boards failure rate of 20% (correct me if I'm wrong).

This year that falls between 30 and 31.

 

[junior surg]

posted on the ASA WEBSITE
2010 IN-TRAINING EXAMINATION APPLICATIONS FOR REQUALIFYING CANDIDATES
The 2010 applications for requalifying candidates will be available by August 15, 2009 and may be obtained by contacting the ASA Office at: 847-268-9126 or by sending an e-mail to Anne Farace at: [email protected].
The ITE examination for requalifying candidates will be March 6, 2010. A physician may reestablish his or her admission qualifications either by taking and receiving a passing score on the examination administered by the American Society of Anesthesiologists (ASA) Joint Council on In-Training Examinations OR by satisfactorily completing a 12-month term of additional clinical training in anesthesia as a CA-3 year resident in an ACGME-accredited program.
The American Board of Anesthesiology (ABA) has established a scaled score of 32 for the 2010 requalification standard. If you received a passing score and wish to take the ABA Part 1 exam in August 2010, you will need to contact the Credentials Department at the ABA office immediately upon receiving your scores. The deadline for submitting a completed application to the ABA for the August 2010 Part 1 exam is June 1, 2010

 

[junior surg]

IF 84 IS WITH 32 RANK THATS MEAN THIS YEARS TEST WAS MUCH MORE DIFFICULT THAN 2008 TEST

following is last year's norm table. I haven't seen this year's.

The percentile for a 34 varies depending on your year group. Ie, for CA1s taking it, a 34 was a 96th %ile but for CA2s it was an 84th %ile score. (Pay no attention to the CA3 column in that table; CA3s didn't take the ITE last year and those people were late grads or out-of-residency retakers.)

following is last year's norm table. I haven't seen this year's.

The percentile for a 34 varies depending on your year group. Ie, for CA1s taking it, a 34 was a 96th %ile but for CA2s it was an 84th %ile score. (Pay no attention to the CA3 column in that table; CA3s didn't take the ITE last year and those people were late grads or out-of-residency retakers.)

retakers.)

percentile for a 34 varies depending on your year group. Ie, for CA1s taking it, a 34 was a 96th %ile but for CA2s it was an 84th %ile score. (Pay no attention to the CA3 column in that table; CA3s didn't take the ITE last year and those people were late grads or out-of-residency retakers.)

 

[lord_jeebus]

IF 84 IS WITH 32 RANK THATS MEAN THIS YEARS TEST WAS MUCH MORE DIFFICULT THAN 2008 TEST

You have it backwards - in 2008 only 8% of CA-1's scored above 32, this year 16% of them scored at least that high.

 

[junior surg]

SO I GUESS WE GOT SMARTER but it was areally tough one i guess i will get mine tomorrow hopefully
thanks Lord Jeebus

 

[pgg]

I think what people refer to as "passing" is the CA-3 20th percentile, based on a historical written boards failure rate of 20% (correct me if I'm wrong).

This year that falls between 30 and 31.

People do a lot of studying between their CA3 year ITE (March) and the actual written exam (August). It would seem risky to assume that a 20th percentile level of knowledge as measured in March of the CA3 year is sufficient to pass. A 20th percentile resident is still going to have to step it up a lot to stay at the 20th percentile.

 

[Arch Guillotti]

I think what people refer to as "passing" is the CA-3 20th percentile, based on a historical written boards failure rate of 20% (correct me if I'm wrong).

This year that falls between 30 and 31.

According to the ABA pass rate for 1st time takers in 2008 was 86%.

http://www.theaba.org/pdf/newsletters/ABA-2009-Newsletter.pdf

 

[junior surg]

I scored 39 can someone tell me what's the percentile

 

[lord_jeebus]

39 is:

98th percentile if you are CA-1
93rd for CA-2s
85th for CA-3s

Congratulations either way.

 

[junior surg]

guess I am 98 Thad I am CA-1
haha CA-2 I will work on the difference thanks lord Jeebus

 

[uclalee]

So if his test were theoretically the real board, then what score is considered "passing"?

 

[AirBubble]

You have it backwards - in 2008 only 8% of CA-1's scored above 32, this year 16% of them scored at least that high.

Not too surprising that CA-1's scored higher this year than in 2008 when you consider that the 2008ers took the exam in July (I believe). Many of them had no anesthesia experience. CA-1s who took the exam in March had 8 months of experience.

 

[SleepIsGood]

Most CA3s I know that took this test did worse this year compared to last. I know I did. The thing was tougher this year than last....hopefully doesnt get worse...

'passed' either way. but it does throw a monkey wrench into the mix.

 

[Boujee]

what kind of score is considered for a competitive fellowship? i know its a vague question but jus wondering...thanks

 

[trunksvegeta]

Most CA3s I know that took this test did worse this year compared to last. I know I did. The thing was tougher this year than last....hopefully doesnt get worse...

'passed' either way. but it does throw a monkey wrench into the mix.

anyone know what do PGY0 and CB stand for?

 

[diceksox]

PGY0 = just graduated med school
CBY = clinical base year

 

[bigdan]

CBY = clinical base year

Have no idea what PGY0 is, unless it's the non-CBY interns that took the test...

 

[trunksvegeta]

CBY = clinical base year

Have no idea what PGY0 is, unless it's the non-CBY interns that took the test...

so...Clinical Base year= PGY1 year then

 

[bigeyedfish]

Has anyone not received their scores back yet? My program director is telling us we haven't gotten ours yet.

 

[lushmd]

'fish, the consensus seems to be that the scores are back. At my program, we got our scores this past Friday (but the program had them earlier).

 

[Gimlet]

so...Clinical Base year= PGY1 year then

Yes, CBY=PGY1=CA-0

 

[trunksvegeta]

Thx, is CBY s specific term for those categorical programs that have an initial year combined with it? or

would you call a CBY something like a preliminary surgery or medicine resident going into anesthesia as an advanced that took the exam during the intern year?

just curious, bc I didn't know many fresh medical school graduates (PGY0) that sit in for an ITE. If CBY is exclusive to categorical anesthesia programs, then would PGY0 apply for interns that are not in a categorical program..?

Thx