Ite

[fergustsi]

What kind of scores/progress do programs require from their residents on the ite?
One program told me they want 60, 70, 75,80 progression over the four years at the program. What does that mean? Percentage, percentile or is this an absolute number? What's equivocal to passing your written boards?

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[BADMD]

What kind of scores/progress do programs require from their residents on the ite?
One program told me they want 60, 70, 75,80 progression over the four years at the program. What does that mean? Percentage, percentile or is this an absolute number? What's equivocal to passing your written boards?

I suspect that is percentage correct and not percentile.

A passing score on the ABEM written exam is a 75% correct.

 

[The White Coat Investor]

What's the ITE? Is that some abbreviation for the inservice exam? Most programs are 3 years, not four. Sure, progression is nice, but if you get a 91 as an intern, how much progression are you really expecting? As near as I can tell, most interns pass the test. If I had an intern get a 60, I'd be all over him and there damn well better be some progression the next year.

 

[Apollyon]

What's the ITE? Is that some abbreviation for the inservice exam? Most programs are 3 years, not four. Sure, progression is nice, but if you get a 91 as an intern, how much progression are you really expecting? As near as I can tell, most interns pass the test. If I had an intern get a 60, I'd be all over him and there damn well better be some progression the next year.

Yeah, ITE is "in training exam" (like ABSITE - "American Board of Surgery In Training Exam"). To be honest, I've never heard of the EM inservice being called the "ITE", but I can't say that it is incorrect. It's quite possible that all of us have been calling it the wrong thing just because of inertia from other classes and attendings.

 

[allendo]

We are expected to pass as interns 75 min or you get put on remediation

 

[BADMD]

We are expected to pass as interns 75 min or you get put on remediation

Really? A 75% for an intern? That would be a fairly high percentile.

 

[xaelia]

Percentile minimums are rather cruel; after all, only the smaller subset can get 75th percentile or above.

Supposedly our raw score needed to meet a certain threshold to moonlight; seems like it wasn't strictly enforced.

 

[deleted109597]

We are expected to pass as interns 75 min or you get put on remediation

Other than that, working at Seattle Grace is nice. I mean, shagging in call rooms, eating patient's food, coming to and going to work while it is sunny...

 

[allendo]

5 of us in my intern class beat 75, I guess fear is a motivator

 

[lucky_deadman]

I've never heard of the EM inservice being called the "ITE", but I can't say that it is incorrect.

Yeah the correct term is American Board of Emergency Medicine In Training Exam (ABEMITE). It's a mouthful so most still just say "in-service".

 

[Apollyon]

Yeah the correct term is American Board of Emergency Medicine In Training Exam (ABEMITE). It's a mouthful so most still just say "in-service".

And "ABEMITE" sounds like some kind of bug.

 

[lawj]

Or a foul Australian veggie/yeast spread. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegemite

 

[deleted109597]

5 of us in my intern class beat 75, I guess fear is a motivator

% or %ile? Because there's a marked difference.

 

[allendo]

raw score of 75, cant remember what percentile that put us in

 

[xaelia]

raw score of 75, cant remember what percentile that put us in

Probably 80th percentile or so.

FYI, with scores coming back in a couple weeks, here's how to meaningfully interpret your score - i.e., will you pass your boards:
ABEM Exam Probability of Pass

FWIW, the residency programs reporting a <90% written board pass rate (national average ranges ~89-93%) on their last ACGME recert are:
University of Kentucky
New York Hospital Medical Center of Queens
LSU-HSC
Denver Health
Sinai Grace
North Shore Long Island Jewish Medical Center
SUNY at Buffalo
Naval Medical Center San Diego
Eastern Carolina University
University of Chicago
York Hospital
New York Presbyterian Hospital

Source: match.emra.org

 

[DrMom]

FWIW, the residency programs reporting a <90% written board pass rate (national average ranges ~89-93%) on their last ACGME recert are:
...
University of Oklahoma

Source: match.emra.org

Is this for the actual board cert exam? OU's program doesn't graduate their first residency class until this June.

 

[xaelia]

UO corrected to OSU as above.

 

[DrMom]

OSU is an osteopathic program and cannot take the ABEM board exams. We have a 100% first time pass rate on the AOBEM boards, however. Can you take it off your list please?

There are many other significant inaccuracies on the EMRA page for OSU's residency. I emailed the program director to have them get corrections to EMRA. (for example all of the attendings are EM residency trained and board certified and that page says none are, all of the residents are required to do clinical or basic science research and the page says 0-20%, it's a 4 year program rather than 3 years...etc)

That page even says we have no DOs at the program.

 

[WilcoWorld]

Looks like the most enlightening part of Xaelia's post has been lost in the shuffle. The linked graph is, in my opinion, the most meaningful way to interpret your ITE score. If your score indicates that you have a >95% chance of passing boards, then you're doing just fine.