Just got screwed over

Discussion in 'Pre-Dental' started by IMBD, May 23, 2012.

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  1. IMBD


    Feb 18, 2012
    Last edited: Jun 2, 2012
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  3. DoeAdeer

    DoeAdeer Banned

    May 10, 2012
    Isn't what you're doing right now - ranting about your PI on a public forum- technically "back-stabbing" too?
  4. ethylalcohol

    ethylalcohol 2+ Year Member

    Jan 3, 2012
    wow.. but still..His PI should have told him the truth about his performance..
    i still dont undersatnd why his PI did such things to a op
    unless his PI really hates the op
  5. chill45

    chill45 5+ Year Member

    Jan 18, 2012
    I don't see how the OP is backstabbing at all. He/she is just saying what the PI did.
  6. Seahawk

    Seahawk Nothing to do here 5+ Year Member

    Jul 21, 2010
  7. suarez 7

    suarez 7 5+ Year Member

    Jan 31, 2012
    That is a really harsh situation. Are you sure you can trust the online company that reviewed your LORs? How did they even get access to it?

    What I would do is sit down and talk to your PI about your letter, ask him/her about what she wrote about you and usually you can tell if someone is lying when they are put on the spot. What's also disturbing is that your other lab mates collaborating with the PI to sabotage you.
  8. AlbinoPolarBear

    AlbinoPolarBear 5+ Year Member

    Jun 18, 2011
    Dude, that sucks. No need to confront the PI, just ask for another letter from another prof.
  9. chill45

    chill45 5+ Year Member

    Jan 18, 2012
    Might be one of those cases where the bio/chem teacher is anti pre-med/dental students...happens a lot seems like, some absolutely despise them. The only science professors I have told that I am pre-dental are the ones writing my LORs, and its usually after I've already received my grade.

    But I too am interested in this third party website that reviews LORs, something seems weird about that as the only way they could get them is from your professor. How would you ask a professor who has taken time out of their day to write you a letter to send to a third party so you can make sure they didn't say anything bad? lol
  10. dantemac

    dantemac 5+ Year Member

    Jan 16, 2011
    Philadelphia, PA
    You are doing the right thing by looking for a replacement letter. Nothing you can do about the scathing letter.
  11. yellowishbluish


    Mar 26, 2012
    sounds like she really doesn't like you

    idk how you managed to piss her off but i personally can't imagine being "clumsy" is severe enough to warrant her wanting to screw you over

    either way, you'd never get a good letter out of her so i'd move on
  12. Seahawk

    Seahawk Nothing to do here 5+ Year Member

    Jul 21, 2010

    Could very well be. I don't let my professors know I'm predent.

    You can't really blame them for hating us...When you start to realize just how many people in the classes are pre-something and have no interest (you know what I mean) in what they are teaching.
  13. Ari Rezaei

    Ari Rezaei Senior Member Lifetime Donor Gold Donor 5+ Year Member

    Mar 14, 2012
    New York, NY
    I'm actually interested in that service. But I thought you can always just mail the letter to yourself if you really wanted to?
  14. timwatley

    timwatley 5+ Year Member

    May 4, 2009
    I kind of want access to my LOR's just to see what they said about me haha. Sorry OP, that really sucks.
  15. rivers32342

    rivers32342 2+ Year Member

    May 3, 2012
    Seattle, WA
  16. rivers32342

    rivers32342 2+ Year Member

    May 3, 2012
    Seattle, WA
  17. rivers32342

    rivers32342 2+ Year Member

    May 3, 2012
    Seattle, WA

    I don't know if that's backstabbing...He is just venting his frustration, and his PI won't be jeopardized because of his rant. This guy will have a lot of problems because of that though.

    I'm sorry that happened to you. I guess it's good that you found out, but shouldn't you not be able to find out? I thought the letters are suppose to be confidential...
  18. littlemisspiggy

    littlemisspiggy 5+ Year Member

    Nov 21, 2011

    same here- i feel paranoid LOL
  19. IMBD


    Feb 18, 2012
    Last edited: Jun 2, 2012
  20. TheClutch


    Jan 10, 2012
    Ask different professors (who has good reputations among students) to have at least total 5 LORs. I'm not exactly sure but if you have more than four, you might be able to choose which LORs to be sent to schools. Provide tons of info. ur resume, PS, transcript, your goal, volunteering experience, etc. More the better. you still have time GOOD LUCK
    Last edited: May 24, 2012
  21. yappy

    yappy 7+ Year Member

    Jul 11, 2008

    Once you get an acceptance make sure to thank your PI. Tell her you used the letter and felt that it really helped you secure a spot in dental school lol.
  22. Lol, no.

    To the OP, Wow I can't believe multiple people collaborated like that to give you a negative letter.
  23. goffdent

    goffdent 7+ Year Member

    Jan 6, 2008
    There's got to be more to this story.. People don't just screw people over like that. I'm not accusing you of being a bad worker, but i've worked with people in the lab and my spouse has too, and there are some people that can just be ridiculously annoying. They are messy, they don't do work, they don't learn well (ie dont take notes and then constantly ask the same questions over and over, and take their nice manager for granted), show up late, leave early, disrupt others in the lab because they're always looking online at youtube videos etc. And just play stupid immature practical jokes all day. If this sounds like you, think about it. I"m not saying it happened, but some people are kind of oblivious to the fact that they're being disruptive. Also, leaving for three months probably left a real sour spot on your PI. Now i'm not criticizing you, just bringing up something i've noticed first-hand in the lab. Just saying.. there's more to this story.
    Regardless, if your PI didn't think she could write a positive letter of recommendation, then in good conscious should have told you that and not offered to write a negative one.
  24. IMBD


    Feb 18, 2012
    Last edited: Jun 2, 2012
  25. ataha

    ataha 2+ Year Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    +1. Lmao that's just awesome.
  26. dentalprodigy

    dentalprodigy Mr. Awesome 7+ Year Member

    Nov 15, 2009
    South Jersey, NJ
    that really sucks OP. What I don't understand is why did the other faculty person tell you that it was indeed a strong letter??? It seems like you pissed off the multiple people OR your school has some vendetta against pre-dental majors or something lol.

    I think you are doing the right thing by trying to get an alternate letter from professor. Don't confront the PI about anything and goodluck in ur search.
  27. hmmmmm

    hmmmmm 7+ Year Member

    Jul 22, 2007

    multiple people do not collaborate against you for no reason.
  28. Subcharge

    Subcharge 2+ Year Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    This brings up a good point. Can I have my writers upload their letters to interfolio n then send those letters to myself n see if I need to get new letters?
  29. y3nd0

    y3nd0 Kitteh likes to stare 2+ Year Member

    Mar 28, 2012
    Unless the PI was really conniving and changed the letter after showing the other professor.
  30. reidjones


    May 18, 2012
    Burn that bridge, and move on.
  31. I kinda agree with this. People that are annoying really are oblivious to what they are doing lol. But you're right, no point in writing a negative letter just don't write one at all.
  32. IMBD


    Feb 18, 2012
    Last edited: Jun 2, 2012
  33. premolar9

    premolar9 2+ Year Member

    Apr 21, 2012
    Get both- well get the generic first and see what the service ranks it as. If your scores are good, I'd send it with the generic and save the better letter as a backup- say if you are waitlisted and they ask for another LOR? you'll have this good one ready.
    If the generic letter isn't too good, I'd wait. Especially if your scores aren't too competitive.
  34. parham3

    parham3 2+ Year Member

    Mar 5, 2012
    Toronto, Ontario
    Go to your PI and sit down with him/her. Look at your PI in the face and ask if she enjoys preventing people from reaching their goals and aspiration. Tell your PI how much their life sucks. haha
  35. sacapuntas

    sacapuntas Verified Account 2+ Year Member

    Feb 25, 2011
    Ignoring the bolded line, I would be tempted to do this. The PI is supposedly a mature individual, yet they resort to lying and conspiring behind your back. It is pathetic and I think they should be called out for it, face to face being the most enjoyable manner. A professional would have politely decline your request, this person has the mentality of a passive-aggressive schoolyard bully.
  36. Kforce

    Kforce 2+ Year Member

    May 24, 2012
    Last edited: Sep 6, 2015
  37. MuskieMan33

    MuskieMan33 2+ Year Member

    Jul 31, 2011
    I would rather get turned down to get a letter than get a bad letter and not know about it.
  38. Bis-GMA111

    Bis-GMA111 5+ Year Member

    Nov 7, 2010
    wow IMBD, i am very sorry to hear that.

    my PI can be really unprofessional too (always forgets the days that i'm coming in, barely responds to my emails) but he's a nice guy. i asked him to write me a letter 2 weeks ago and he probably forgot already :laugh:
  39. bluesolic

    bluesolic 2+ Year Member

    Oct 19, 2009

    can you do pm about that website?

    and wordering how the service company can read the credential file documents which were sent to school directly.. ?

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