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[JustPaws]

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Pip

Pips, you get any kind of message related to feeling protected last night?

 

[JustPaws]

Pips, you get any kind of message related to feeling protected last night?

scratch that, don't answer

 

[PippyPony]

@youngkal whom did you protect last night?

Pip

Seriously, can people read?

This checks out, it makes sense with the role claim, time to drop it. The next person who acts weird about it is going to get my lynch vote from now until the end of this game, and I'm not kidding

 

[youngkal]

scratch that, don't answer

Why?

 

[youngkal]

Seriously, can people read?

This checks out, it makes sense with the role claim, time to drop it. The next person who acts weird about it is going to get my lynch vote from now until the end of this game, and I'm not kidding

 

[Melchizedek]

Pip

Given your protection record this now makes me want to lynch Pippy haha

I’m kidding....sort of....

Seriously, can people read?

This checks out, it makes sense with the role claim, time to drop it. The next person who acts weird about it is going to get my lynch vote from now until the end of this game, and I'm not kidding

No. You don’t get to go on a tirade about how village is too stupid to read and then get on people’s cases for not reading. You can’t have it both ways.

 

[PippyPony]

Yeah you're not helping yourself by acting sketch af lmao

Protect yourself tonight.

Actually, from here on out just RNG 75/25 protect yourself or someone else.

And, there have been wolf protectors in the past so while I don't think you are wolfy, I don't mind if people look into you later in the game. Like, track you (best case scenario) or block you again at some point.

 

[youngkal]

Given your protection record this now makes me want to lynch Pippy haha

I’m kidding....sort of.....

Lol it’s true. Pick one of the two people I’ve tried to protect and there’s probably a wolf

But i don’t think it’s Pip

 

[JustPaws]

Why?

incomplete data set, i wouldnt have been able to use the answer plus then everyone would know pips answer.

 

[PippyPony]

Given your protection record this now makes me want to lynch Pippy haha

I’m kidding....sort of....


No. You don’t get to go on a tirade about how village is too stupid to read and then get on people’s cases for not reading. You can’t have it both ways.

Have what both ways? I hit people over the head with this this morning.

 

[Melchizedek]

Have what both ways? I hit people over the head with this this morning.

Both ways as in, expect village to miss stated facts AND expect them to pick up what you were saying at the beginning of the day.

Yes I put two and two together after YK said she protected you and hence why I didn't ask you if you got a protection message.

 

[youngkal]

Actually, from here on out just RNG 75/25

Can you explain? Lol i should just RNG bc of my record but what’s the 75/25 thing

 

[PippyPony]

Both ways as in, expect village to miss stated facts AND expect them to pick up what you were saying at the beginning of the day.

Yes I put two and two together after YK said she protected you and hence why I didn't ask you if you got a protection message.

I don't expect village to miss stated facts. I generally expect people of both affiliations to see things that are blatantly addressed on the thread.

 

[WildZoo]

Can you explain? Lol i should just RNG bc of my record but what’s the 75/25 thing

Basically RNG 1-4, but make 1-3 yourself and 4 someone else

 

[PippyPony]

Can you explain? Lol i should just RNG bc of my record but what’s the 75/25 thing

Like, lean towards protecting yourself vs a 50/50 split.

 

[Coopah]

True. I was not on all night, apologies for not getting a vote in. What's this grilling you want to do?



Hi Pipperoni 🙂



Eh. I can never read you, so not sure about this or where you stand.



I like this old style better.

Jbooster, you're always first out the gate and I think you're still riding that D1 AM/Coop wave on me. Villager or wolf biding your time?
I could retaliatory against Pippy -- low key wolf calling me out for ghosting when she's been a ghost herself? Chilling in the back to reduce village numbers and then show up late for the final massacre? Also, you switched things up to Roz... because you felt like it? Well, damn, I am going to use that reasoning when Mel grills me later! Or maybe when you try to grill me later. Old style WW suits me better, anyways.
But I also think YK is perhaps the protector, which makes me somewhat suspicious of Mel. Working together or wolf out for protector?

Lynch Mel. Switching to Jboo or Pips depending on the feedback.

I've been warned about my behavior before. This wasn't directed at you.

What does this mean?

This is not game related.

 

[JustPaws]

This is not game related.

ok

 

[Melchizedek]

Bringing this back here at the request of Dubz.

I don't expect village to miss stated facts. I generally expect people of both affiliations to see things that are blatantly addressed on the thread.

Right just like when it was plausible a village blocker could have missed lyra blatantly saying "I can ask a mod?"

 

[youngkal]

Basically RNG 1-4, but make 1-3 yourself and 4 someone else

Like, lean towards protecting yourself vs a 50/50 split.

Isn’t protecting myself a lot kind of a waste of the PR?

 

[PippyPony]

Isn’t protecting myself a lot kind of a waste of the PR?

Are you a villager? Who is going to be targeted? Then not a waste.

Since you appear to enjoy trolling, I might suggest trolling wolves by posting who you are going to protect and then randomly flip flop between doing what you say you're going to do and doing the opposite. 🙂

 

[WildZoo]

Isn’t protecting myself a lot kind of a waste of the PR?

Less wasteful than you being dead. Wolves won't likely take the chance to attack you and when you do roll to protect someone else, you might get lucky.

But hey, that's just the suggestion. No one's saying you have to do it that way. It's your ability

 

[Coopah]

I am honestly wondering why people are thinking I'm sketch? I've brought up legitimate points that have been echoed, because I flipped the vote off the claimed PR?Seriously? Mel why do you think I'm sketch? All I'm reading is that we didn't lynch who you wanted.

 

[jaboo]

Just caught up on thread.

unlynch YK

 

[PippyPony]

I am honestly wondering why people are thinking I'm sketch? I've brought up legitimate points that have been echoed, because I flipped the vote off the claimed PR?Seriously? Mel why do you think I'm sketch? All I'm reading is that we didn't lynch who you wanted.

I got a mildly sketch vibe off of some of your earlier posts, and you seemed to be looking for who to swap to.

I'm not voting to lynch you; would prefer you get investigated somehow first

 

[Melchizedek]

I am honestly wondering why people are thinking I'm sketch? I've brought up legitimate points that have been echoed, because I flipped the vote off the claimed PR?Seriously? Mel why do you think I'm sketch? All I'm reading is that we didn't lynch who you wanted.

Try attacking the argument and not the player:

No actually its not, because what it looks like to me is that if YK is village, you were trying to stay off that lynch vote to avoid coming under the microscope, and didn't expect a Roz lynch to actually happen.
You switched, sheeping Pippy. Before you say you were trying to stop a PR from being lynched, you continued to pile sketch on YK and then switched to Roz and made no attempt to actually push that lynch.

 

[Coopah]

Alrighty some sketch before I go to work. Paws has jumped up on my sketch list. She's basically been voting without any sorts of reasons which isn't helpful to village. She's been avoiding answering questions and giving what people she feels is sketchy and why besides me. She also says she doesn't see why this person is sketch but this person could be but fails to provide any sort of reason as to why they are thinking one way or another. Maybe I'm wrong, but this feels an awful lot like Michigan when AM would ask her 20questions and she would avoid them/give vague answers and ride others thoughts.

Others: coop is on my watch list because of previous reasons. Staff is being his talkative self from last game not sure what I make of that just yet. Sporty being so talkative definitely something I'll watch as its very different from what I've played with her. Mel is feeling like his village play to me. Pips I have village leaning but with her being gone most the past 2 days I don't have a solid feel yet. Considering YK didn't die I'll roll with it. I need to go back and evaluate others.

Also considering only one person died last night I'm way more inclined to believe it's a wolf mechanic like double kill to balance out the rez than my previous theory.

Will put my lynch vote out on my second break as I'd like to see how today evolves.

What are your previous reasons again? I'd like to know

 

[Coopah]

I got a mildly sketch vibe off of some of your earlier posts, and you seemed to be looking for who to swap to.

I'm not voting to lynch you; would prefer you get investigated somehow first

Wasn't referring to you but thanks for the response 😉 it's not WW until Pip thinks I'm sketch

 

[Coopah]

Try attacking the argument and not the player:

lol your snark Mel. I see your point, even if it's wrong 😉

 

[Coopah]

Try attacking the argument and not the player:

Well let's see, I did say I was trying to save a power role, I didn't think the Roz lynch was going to happen, but I literally was trying to save the people that people were fairly confident on. I couldn't just pick one like Pippy because it literally took all of us to switch to her. I had to sheep.

 

[Melchizedek]

I agree with you, now I think it's just Mel being stubborn, but I may change my mind later

Thinking I was being stubborn about YK but hedging there.

Why is that a protector? 1) predator 2) they're not really capable of protecting much of anything, just running away

After YK says she is a cheetah, you continue to question and add to her sketch factor

Probably won't but that doesn't mean she wouldn't make something up if she were lying

Continue to pile sketch on YK.

Unlynch staff lynch rox

4 minutes til deadline with 2 votes on Roz and 4 on YK.

I stand by my theory. You pushed the YK lynch even after her ability reveal, even after her role reveal, and THEN switch to Roz. If you were actually trying to save a PR then why all the above?
Lynch this people.

 

[PippyPony]

Question: if we continue to tick you off will you continue to post George Clooney gifs?

 

[WildZoo]

Lynch this people.

Question 2: Are you more or less sure about coop than you were about yk?

 

[WildZoo]

I think you skipped over some important context in that progression of coop's posts but I'll let coop answer for herself

 

[PippyPony]

Question 2: Are you more or less sure about coop than you were about yk?

Lmao

I await my gifs

 

[Coopah]

Thinking I was being stubborn about YK but hedging there.


After YK says she is a cheetah, you continue to question and add to her sketch factor


Continue to pile sketch on YK.


4 minutes til deadline with 2 votes on Roz and 4 on YK.

I stand by my theory. You pushed the YK lynch even after her ability reveal, even after her role reveal, and THEN switch to Roz. If you were actually trying to save a PR then why all the above?
Lynch this people.

Legitimate questions, that's not piling sketch that's trying to game solve. Also was a test, saying she could have lied is absolutely true, doesn't mean I was implying she did, just offering my reasoning for the questions. That is actively trying to figure out if she was lying.

Edit: final point, you blame me for sheeping Pip when there was 4 minutes left to swing the vote, AM did the same thing but she's a villager obviously there are good reasons to do this.

 

[Melchizedek]

Question: if we continue to tick you off will you continue to post George Clooney gifs?

Question 2: Are you more or less sure about coop than you were about yk?

I can't tell if you're being glib or not. In case you're not:
Where are people getting the idea that I was ever concrete on YK, I had my reasons to vote there. They were wrong, I've moved on to the next theory. All I can say is that I've got more of a reason to vote Coop than I had to vote YK. If you're asking if I have night results that lead me to Coops, no because I was blocked last night.

Legitimate questions, that's not piling sketch that's trying to game solve. Also was a test, saying she could have lied is absolutely true, doesn't mean I was implying she did, just offering my reasoning for the questions. That is actively trying to figure out if she was lying.

Edit: final point, you blame me for sheeping Pip when there was 4 minutes left to swing the vote, AM did the same thing but she's a villager obviously there are good reasons to do this.

If you believed YK was a PR, why even question it? Why would you not just take it at face value. Your story is not adding up.
AM was breaking a tie after YK made it 4-4. She's done that as village before, so no trying to use AM's flip does not make you village nor give you village intention. Try again.

(p.s. @Karabiner13 your final lynch tally is wrong btw, you have Kal at 4 votes when it was only 3.)

 

[Coopah]

I can't tell if you're being glib or not. In case you're not:
Where are people getting the idea that I was ever concrete on YK, I had my reasons to vote there. They were wrong, I've moved on to the next theory. All I can say is that I've got more of a reason to vote Coop than I had to vote YK. If you're asking if I have night results that lead me to Coops, no because I was blocked last night.


If you believed YK was a PR, why even question it? Why would you not just take it at face value. Your story is not adding up.
AM was breaking a tie after YK made it 4-4. She's done that as village before, so no that does not make you village.

(p.s. @Karabiner13 your final lynch tally is wrong btw, you have Kal at 4 votes when it was only 3.)

She claimed PR after self-voting and other shenanigans, of course I wasn't 100% sure she was acting sketchy af. But that doesn't mean I wasn't trying to protect a PR, just means I wanted to know if she was claiming to get out of the lynch. Why would I take anything at face value? This is WW, THERE'S NO CRYING IN WW

 

[WildZoo]

I can't tell if you're being glib or not. In case you're not:
Where are people getting the idea that I was ever concrete on YK, I had my reasons to vote there. They were wrong, I've moved on to the next theory. All I can say is that I've got more of a reason to vote Coop than I had to vote YK. If you're asking if I have night results that lead me to Coops, no because I was blocked last night.

Wasn't being glib. From where I am sitting you seemed pretty solid on it. Granted I can't evaluate that well because you still haven't expanded on what your reasons were. It was enough to strongly question her role reveal, yes?

 

[WildZoo]

Gonna clarify.
I have reasons for voting Kal. So does Sporty.
I am not advocating anyone blindly trust me, I'm pointing you in a direction, its up to you to evaluate if that direction is where you want to go.

1. Why did you not come out with the info that you were blocked earlier?
2. I might be tunneling, but this could be a last ditch effort to out the actual protector.

cool, so you're admitting you could've helped village and withheld information on purpose. Thats not wolfy at all.

Because I don't buy it and see point 2.

I could vote between Coops and YK.

Just to provide evidence for what I'm saying.
The fact that you're including coop questioning the role reveal in the sketch factor for her is interesting to me with this in mind.

 

[Melchizedek]

Wasn't being glib. From where I am sitting you seemed pretty solid on it. Granted I can't evaluate that well because you still haven't expanded on what your reasons were. It was enough to strongly question her role reveal, yes?

She started out mildly setting off my sketchdar and then the LIS rule, trollery, and piecemeal role reveal solidified my sketch read enough for me to doubt her role reveal. Notice that I kept my lynch vote there. I was still skeptical this morning until YK and pippy confirmed YK's role.

Coops, is saying that she believed YK is the protector, but then made detrimental moves against that assumption. There is an inconsistency between her actions and what she is claiming were her intentions.

 

[PippyPony]

Just to provide evidence for what I'm saying.
The fact that you're including coop questioning the role reveal in the sketch factor for her is interesting to me with this in mind.

The first post in here was one of the things I was referencing as claiming evidence. If you staunchly say you have reasons for voting someone and then don't move off of them despite a power role reveal, people are going to interpret that as you having actual reasons to vote that person instead of just a hunch.

I also asked you to clarify at some point and you ignored me, which led me to think you didn't want to comment on having actual information.

If it was just a hunch, then I am a bit sorry I moved people off of you yesterday. I thought you implied a role.

 

[PippyPony]

The first post in here was one of the things I was referencing as claiming evidence. If you staunchy say you have reasons for voting someone and then don't move off of them despite a power role reveal, people are going to interpret that as you having actual reasons to vote that person instead of just a hunch.

I also asked you to clarify at some point and you ignored me, which led me to think you didn't want to comment on having actual information.

If it was just a hunch, then I am a bit sorry I moved people off of you yesterday. I thought you implied a role.

"You" in this is @Melchizedek , not dubz - just realized that was potentially confusing

 

[jaboo]

Lynch staffy

Because his earlier post did nothing to ease my worries. And he's been more quiet than usual.

Could also go Mel. But what else is new?

 

[Coopah]

Lynch staffy

Because his earlier post did nothing to ease my worries. And he's been more quiet than usual.

Could also go Mel. But what else is new?

Who else would you go for? I've seen you repeat this multiple times, have anyone else?

 

[WildZoo]

She started out mildly setting off my sketchdar and then the LIS rule, trollery, and piecemeal role reveal solidified my sketch read enough for me to doubt her role reveal. Notice that I kept my lynch vote there. I was still skeptical this morning until YK and pippy confirmed YK's role.

Coops, is saying that she believed YK is the protector, but then made detrimental moves against that assumption. There is an inconsistency between her actions and what she is claiming were her intentions.

At the time yk revealed, the vote was basically between you and her. There wasn't another viable candidate at the time, and that kind of thing has to be coordinated that late in the day if you're trying to save both of the people who are up for lynch, which it looked to me like she was trying to do. That's the context I'm talking about that you skipped over. So Coop's actions ended up being...switching her vote off someone who she thought was the protector, while also not putting you in the lead.

 

[Melchizedek]

At the time yk revealed, the vote was basically between you and her. There wasn't another viable candidate at the time, and that kind of thing has to be coordinated that late in the day if you're trying to save both of the people who are up for lynch, which it looked to me like she was trying to do. That's the context I'm talking about that you skipped over. So Coop's actions ended up being...switching her vote off someone who she thought was the protector, while also not putting you in the lead.

I understand the scenario you're proposing, but I don't think its more likely than the scenario I think happened. Until I see more of Coops play to prove me wrong this is where my vote stays.

ETA: It still doesn't take into account the sheeping. If not me or YK, why not try to convince people to go for Staffy who Coops says she'd had feels for. Why just say okay I'll go with Pippy's vote for Roz when Pippy hadn't offered any reason (at that point) for the Roz vote (besides "Roz has been quiet" which I will say is and always will be a bad reason to lynch someone).

 

[Coopah]

I understand the scenario you're proposing, but I don't think its more likely than the scenario I think happened. Until I see more of Coops play to prove me wrong this is where my vote stays.

ETA: It still doesn't take into account the sheeping. If not me or YK, why not try to convince people to go for Staffy who Coops says she'd had feels for. Why just say okay I'll go with Pippy's vote for Roz when Pippy hadn't offered any reason (at that point) for the Roz vote (besides "Roz has been quiet" which I will say is and always will be a bad reason to lynch someone).

I had a choice go for staffy or go for the one that might be possible to swing. I suggested staffy pip said she'd rather go with someone else. Either I went with that or yk went down.

 

[PippyPony]

(besides "Roz has been quiet" which I will say is and always will be a bad reason to lynch someone).

Strongly disagree on this. How are you supposed to get a read on someone who isn't posting? And noob wolves totally are hesitant to post sometimes because they don't want to commit to saying stuff/put their foot in their mouth.

Like if you guys had lynched me while I wasn't around, I'd probably be grumpy about it but I'd also understand.

 

[Coopah]

Well based in the change of behavior from aggressive to quiet I'm gonna go with lynch staffy, seems to me a senior wolf might have told them to quite down. That or its my fault and I'll feel an extra bit of guilty.

 

[Melchizedek]

I had a choice go for staffy or go for the one that might be possible to swing. I suggested staffy pip said she'd rather go with someone else. Either I went with that or yk went down.

Pippy is not the only person in the game you could have convinced.


Last thing:
This exact wolf-tell is how I caught Genny in Monster Mash, and Allie in TWD both times people kept coming up with excuses and tried to talk me out of it.
Do what you will.
Mel out.