Keeping your name?

[mastamark]

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I am currently married and my wife decided to take my name. I do believe that it is her right on which name she took; however it would have hurt me a little if she chose to keep her maiden title. No I think religion isn't the big deal, it's a worldwide tradition that has been practiced for who knows how long. Just as women dream to have their "Midsummers Night dream" wedding, many of us menfolk have pondered the women of our dreams bearing our surnames.

 

[chloejane]

Agreed.

Any woman who keeps her last name is a feminist and the man should seriously reconsider marrying her. I think it would be logical to conclude these types of women don't want many children and/or don't want to do the majority of the domestic house work. Stay away from these women at all costs.

If the man is good enough to marry, than he is good enough for you to take his last name. Period.

Honestly women? Why would you insult your husband like this? If the woman he loved wouldn't even take his name that is the biggest insult a future wife could do....

I disagree... I don't consider myself a feminist, but just don't like my husbands last name. Why should I take his name if I don't like it? Besides he's okay with taking my name if it comes to a point where we need the same last name....
Name taking has nothing to do with love or respect in my (and my husband's) opinion. Its simply tradition... okay if you want to and if not then don't

 

[tigress]

I took my husband's name. I was looking forward to getting rid of my last name for years!

I don't know what religion has to do with it. Two of my good friends (one of whom is my sister-in-law) kept their last names, and guess what? We're all Orthodox Jews. There's nothing religious about a wife taking her husband's name. And perhaps in certain strains of Christianity women are expected to be subservient, but this is not true of many forms of religion.

I took my husband's name, but he's more of a feminist than I am. I just liked his name better, and I like being a family with the same name. Sure, my friends who kept their names are feminists. They are also traditional women who intend to have children and raise a household.

To the OP: I might have kept my name (well, if I had liked it at all) if I had already received my MD, but changed it before. My sis-in-law kept hers partially because she was already working as an engineer, and it was easier professionally. I got married in college, so even my college diploma has my married name, which makes everything easier to follow. OTOH, my mother changed her name but uses her maiden name as a middle name, and uses it in everything, like on letterheads. Her college and law school diplomas are in her maiden name, but because she uses it in addition to her married name there is no confusion.

 

[Medinsane]

I love this response. You go girl! 😀

I personally am looking for a man to change his last name to MINE!!!! and I want my kids to have MY last name. Me and my bf have actually gotten into many arguments about this.

But think about it..... a mother gives her children more than the father, namely DNA + mitochondria, she also bares the children and usually spends more time raising them.... the kids should have HER last name!!! and that is EXACTLY what I intend to do once I or if I get married and have kids!! My husband can have MY last name!!

 

[bluepanda]

Yet another possibility proposed by Marilyn vos Savant in her "Ask Marilyn" column is a system of bilineal descent wherein neither husband nor wife change their last name and female offspring are assigned the mother's last name while male offspring are assigned the father's last name.

 

[Majayiduke09]

How does an 18 year old individual have the audacity to determine who is a boy and who is a man?

Your first point--that the "boys" most likely were not pursuing medicine was easily rebutted by the fact that her boyfriend is "an MD/PhD student at a top ten medical school". Wrong you were.

You--the "omniscient" one--foolishly responded by saying, "Your boyfriend is has not reached manhood. He is still a boy. He always will be." Now that was easily the most stupid retort I have ever heard on this forum. You, an 18 year old Bible-thumping zealot, pass judgement on an individual whom you have never met and in all likeliness has more life experience than you. Hah and you want to be a doctor? I suppose you would fit the stereotypical narcisstic surgeon.

I am scared to imagine where this country will be in 20 years.

 

[Hakashi]

This coming from an 18 year old



Well, little boy, I am going to medical school, and considering your attitude, it would be safe to assume that I am far better off that you will be at my age 😉



I am a follower of the Constitution, which demands a separation of church and state. Oh, and I don't believe in Jayzus, nor do I believe that our government should make laws based around a fictional text such as the Bible.
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1. You would be surprised at the number of 14 year old men and 35 year old boys in this world.

2. Little girl, why don't you say your age? Why don't you say your GPA? Bottom line is my stats are better than yours. Deal with it 👍 I will be 20 years old when I get into medical school and you are still be trying to volunteer and get more ECs because you couldn't hack it academically. Again, how old are you?

3. Jayzus? You truly do belong in Canada. The Law must be made around the Truth of the Bible. It is the only book ordained by God and must govern our society.

Too bad for you, democrats are not in power 👍

The Law of God will always run America.

In GOD we trust.

 

[Hakashi]

Not all people from Alabama are like you. Oh, and this will shock you too, not only am I a Christian, I am a republican too! Yet I still don't think women are inferior. You do realize that "Father" in the quote "In the name of the Father" represents God and not human men right? And if I were the woman you proposed to, I would be quite happy that you would take back the offer. I am not one of those women who was brainwashed into thinking that I have to be a housewife who takes orders from a husband.

If you feel that your career is more important than your children/husband and your domestic responsibilities as a woman, you are not a Christian, despite you calling yourself one.

 

[Hakashi]

Hakashi, are you gonna be one of those guys that keeps his wife held hostage in their own home that are on cheesy talk shows all the time? Pig.

Are you going to be one of those boys who doesn't follow the law of God?
You are a slug. No mind. No brain. Furthermore, are you going to be one of those boys who stays at home while your dominatrix goes out to work? Tool. Get some balls.

 

[criminallyinane]

1. You would be surprised at the number of 14 year old men and 35 year old boys in this world.

2. Little girl, why don't you say your age? Why don't you say your GPA? Bottom line is my stats are better than yours. Deal with it 👍 I will be 20 years old when I get into medical school and you are still be trying to volunteer and get more ECs because you couldn't hack it academically. Again, how old are you?

Jigga whaa? I am going to a top ten medical school. I am in my early twenties. I obviously had the GPA to get in. You're a troll, plain and simple.

3. Jayzus? You truly do belong in Canada. The Law must be made around the Truth of the Bible. It is the only book ordained by God and must govern our society.

Canada? Are you hallucinating now?

You're such a troll!

 

[Dies Irae]

1. You would be surprised at the number of 14 year old men and 35 year old boys in this world.

2. Little girl, why don't you say your age? Why don't you say your GPA? Bottom line is my stats are better than yours. Deal with it 👍 I will be 20 years old when I get into medical school and you are still be trying to volunteer and get more ECs because you couldn't hack it academically. Again, how old are you?

3. Jayzus? You truly do belong in Canada. The Law must be made around the Truth of the Bible. It is the only book ordained by God and must govern our society.

Too bad for you, democrats are not in power 👍

The Law of God will always run America.

In GOD we trust.

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Okay, I give up. I am never coming back to the Premed forum. ever.

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[Hakashi]

How does an 18 year old individual have the audacity to determine who is a boy and who is a man?

Your first point--that the "boys" most likely were not pursuing medicine was easily rebutted by the fact that her boyfriend is "an MD/PhD student at a top ten medical school". Wrong you were.

You--the "omniscient" one--foolishly responded by saying, "Your boyfriend is has not reached manhood. He is still a boy. He always will be." Now that was easily the most stupid retort I have ever heard on this forum. You, an 18 year old Bible-thumping zealot, pass judgement on an individual whom you have never met and in all likeliness has more life experience than you. Hah and you want to be a doctor? I suppose you would fit the stereotypical narcisstic surgeon.

I am scared to imagine where this country will be in 20 years.

1. There are many 14 year old men and 35 year old boys in this world.

2. How do you know her boyfriend is an MD/PhD at a top ten school? Proof? Fact?

3. My father is a surgeon who makes over one million dollars a year. That is my career plan too 😀

This country will be where it shoudl be in twenty years. Abortion will be outlawed. Gay marriage will continue to be outlawed. The number of women in medicine will decrease and Christianity will be the government.

This country has gone in the wrong direction due the feminist movement and America must be restored.

 

[Dies Irae]

1. There are many 14 year old men and 35 year old boys in this world.

2. How do you know her boyfriend is an MD/PhD at a top ten school? Proof? Fact?

3. My father is a surgeon who makes over one million dollars a year. That is my career plan too 😀

This country will be where it shoudl be in twenty years. Abortion will be outlawed. Gay marriage will continue to be outlawed. The number of women in medicine will decrease and Christianity will be the government.

This country has gone in the wrong direction due the feminist movement and America must be restored.

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BUT ITS LIKE A CAR WRECK ON THE FREEWAY...YOU JUST HAVE TO LOOK!

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[Majayiduke09]

1. There are many 14 year old men and 35 year old boys in this world.

2. How do you know her boyfriend is an MD/PhD at a top ten school? Proof? Fact?

3. My father is a surgeon who makes over one million dollars a year. That is my career plan too

This country will be where it shoudl be in twenty years. Abortion will be outlawed. Gay marriage will continue to be outlawed. The number of women in medicine will decrease and Christianity will be the government.

This country has gone in the wrong direction due the feminist movement and America must be restored.

1. There also these delusional "men" who think they know a great deal, becauses they earned a 4.0 GPA. Well what do you know.....4.0 GPA? I've been earning that since I was in elementary school. I am not impressed.

2. How do we know you are actually 18 years old, and that you actually attained a 4.0 GPA? Any proof? Facts?

3. Good for you. My father is a surgeon who makes millions of dollars a year due to a highly successful practice as well. Fortunately, he taught me tolerance and understanding--values needed by a doctor, and values Christianity supposedly promotes.

If your ideology of intolerance is adopted and successful, the United States will not maintain hegemony and will be the laughing stock of the international community.

 

[Medinsane]

😱 😱 😱

BUT ITS LIKE A CAR WRECK ON THE FREEWAY...YOU JUST HAVE TO LOOK!

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OR ROADKILL!!! It's sad because he will not change and never realize how much of an a$$ he sounds like until he goes to an interview with a female interviewer, who practically owns him!

 

[Dies Irae]

OR ROADKILL!!! It's sad because he will not change and never realize how much of an a$$ he sounds like until he goes to an interview with a female interviewer, who practically owns him!

God teaches us to forgive....or so I've heard... 😍

 

[Flopotomist]

Heh - just be thankful that your relationships are recognized and that you CAN marry - as a gay man, I can't! I suppose if I could though, I would not be opposed to changing my name to my partner's name - especially if we decide to have children later.

I think hyphenated children's names are silly. I mean, what if Child Smith-Jones decides to marry Child Williams-Johnson? is Grandchild Smith-Jones-Williams-Johnson going to get a cramp every time s/he signs a credit card slip?

 

[criminallyinane]

OR ROADKILL!!! It's sad because he will not change and never realize how much of an a$$ he sounds like until he goes to an interview with a female interviewer, who practically owns him!

I think he should teach the female interviewer all he "knows." Including but not limited to telling her that she should actually be home popping out babies and cleaning her husband's house. (Not her house, but her husband's, mind.)

I am certain that he will receive an immediate acceptance to that medical school and will be thanked for forever changing the face of women in medicine -- ie, by wiping out the very existence of such horror!

 

[Indryd]

1. There are many 14 year old men and 35 year old boys in this world.

2. How do you know her boyfriend is an MD/PhD at a top ten school? Proof? Fact?

3. My father is a surgeon who makes over one million dollars a year. That is my career plan too 😀

This country will be where it shoudl be in twenty years. Abortion will be outlawed. Gay marriage will continue to be outlawed. The number of women in medicine will decrease and Christianity will be the government.

This country has gone in the wrong direction due the feminist movement and America must be restored.

OK, no way. There is no WAY this stupid f00ker is not trolling.

Women, keep your names if you want; change them if you want. But do what YOU want, and don't let society or that funny lil' book tell decide for you. That's all that matters.

 

[Dies Irae]

OK, no way. There is no WAY this stupid f00ker is not trolling.

Women, keep your names if you want; change them if you want. But do what YOU want, and don't let society or that funny lil' book tell decide for you. That's all that matters.

He's either trolling or the type of person who will one day hold a title like "Grand Wizard," in addition to his MD degree.

There are times when I wish the NORTHERN states would try to secede from the Union.

 

[Medinsane]

Geez it's like Iraq the terrorist KEEP coming out of nowhere. 🙁 🙁

 

[Majayiduke09]

There are times when I wish the NORTHERN states would try to secede from the Union.

There are times I can't believe I was born in the South.

 

[Ambs]

WOW, this thread was painful to read because of the horrid trolling by the self-proclaimed genius of an eighteen year old.

When will pre-meds like him realize that getting a 4.0 is seriously not a big deal. And when will pre-meds like him realize that getting a 4.0 and 40 on the MCAT is not a sure fired method of getting into med school. EVERYONE has to explore the world of ECs. EVERYONE has to be able to communicate eloquently and RESPECTFULLY in application essays, extracurricular efforts, and interview settings collectively aimed at ascertaining the intellectual, emotional, mental, and personal capacities of an individual aiming to be a medical professional.

criminallyinane - You rock, and not that you need this support in any regard, but as far as I've read on here, you're actually picking and choosing between top ten medical schools. The top tens want you! You possess the sweet reality.

 

[NPursuit]

I would be very seriously offended if a girl I thought of marrying had issues with taking on my last name. I'm going to be the one doing the proposing. The assent comes with the gift of my last name, with the acceptance of my family as part of a girl's own.

If she is unwilling to accept this gift in its entirity, I'd admittedly have issues continuing a relationship with what I would consider to be a selfish woman.

Granted, if she was working in a professional capacity that relied upon name recognition, while I would still wish her to take my name, if she strongly felt it was not in her professional interests to change her name at work, I would understand.

Hakashi, I really think you need to tone it down a notch, bud (although I'm not wholly certain that you haven't rather intentionally turned it up to get a good laugh ). I question the masculinity of a guy who would just let the name thing go all wishy-washy, too, but you're going a bit far with the servanthood thing. I think it works best if the woman is the nurturer in a relationship, but I also think there are times and circumstances when a man needs to take over, as well. The important thing is that the kids have someone attending to them who cares about them.

I've also had about enough of criminallyinane's defamation of the Bible. Grow up, jerk.

 

[cuddlydoc]

The number of women in medicine will decrease

This country has gone in the wrong direction due the feminist movement and America must be restored.

Gee, I sure hope the number of women in medicine don't decrease considering we constitute half the population/applicant pool and there is a physician SHORTAGE coming up in the future. Men cannot possibly fill all the seats of all professions in this world-- there is simply not enough of them. Division of labor, inside and outside the home, is the only thing that makes sense economically.

And to all the ladies who seem to think "feminist" is a bad word:
If it weren't for these "dirty feminists" of the past, present, and future, women would not be allowed into the medical profession, any school, or any profession at all.

Don't dismiss them, they've broken barriers for us and we're benefiting from their work! 😉

 

[NPursuit]

Division of labor, inside and outside the home, is the only thing that makes sense economically.

The biggest problem with your economic theory is that you're going to get what you have in Europe right now if we adopt it in this country. Namely, that birth rates are going to decline to the point that the population begins to shrink, economic output and growth is stymied, and the tax base dries up. Such a society is simply not sustainable.

There is a reason the traditional household is traditional.

That's not to say that women can't work and that men shouldn't help around the house. It is to say, however, that there will be extreme consequences to doing away with the traditional.

 

[cuddlydoc]

The biggest problem with your economic theory is that you're going to get what you have in Europe right now if we adopt it in this country. Namely, that birth rates are going to decline to the point that the population begins to shrink, economic output and growth is stymied, and the tax base dries up. Such a society is simply not sustainable.

I don't believe that women who want families should stop producing babies. I was simply responding to a poster who felt that eliminating women from the medical work force would be productive for this country. Eliminating women from any work force is not only a violation of the personal freedom of women to choose work, family, or both, but it is also economically unsound in a society driven by inflation that generally requires the income of two individuals to financially sustain a household. That's why I think division of labor, inside and outside the home, is a proper solution. Women can produce and care for children, but men can help out around the home as well.

Some women can manage both a career and family and it's unfair to place the blame of society's ills upon them, as one poster attempted. 🙂

 

[infinite_dreams]

I am married to a wonderfully loving and supportive man 😍 , and I did not take his name, for the simple reason that mine reflects my culture, heritage and actually means something, whereas his is just rather quite boring. Also I couldn't be bothered with the paperwork (drivers license, social security, undergraduate records etc). He was kind of bummed I think, but he finds his name particularly boring and meaningless so he understands, he is considering changing it anyway (not to mine, but to something else).
Just my experience; I think in this day and age the name thing should not be an equality thing, it really should just be what you feel like, and what you want to do....
I will not even dignify some of the cr*p I have read on this particular thread with a response.... lets get back to the poll
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[SitraAchra]

Hakashi receives recognition in the annals of SND as a truly great troll.

I can't even be upset with you - it's just so fun to read! You can't offend me, or anyone else because you're one of those people who are so absurdly extreme in viewpoint - even to those who SHARE some of your ideas - that the idea of taking you seriously is just a cute misconception that any fool and certainly every SDNer already figured out.

 

[NPursuit]

I don't believe that women who want families should stop producing babies. I was simply responding to a poster who felt that eliminating women from the medical work force would be productive for this country. Eliminating women from any work force is not only a violation of the personal freedom of women to choose work, family, or both, but it is also economically unsound in a society driven by inflation that generally requires the income of two individuals to financially sustain a household. That's why I think division of labor, inside and outside the home, is a proper solution. Women can produce and care for children, but men can help out around the home as well.

Some women can manage both a career and family and it's unfair to place the blame of society's ills upon them, as one poster attempted. 🙂

Okay, I think I agree with you here.

One of the largest problems in Western Europe's case is that women are being raised with the same expectations as men, i.e. you have to work and you have not met your potential in life if you are not career-driven and successful. Being a housewife is frowned upon in many circles.

Study after study shows that as women work more, their rate of childbirth declines proportionally. It's just a very precarious line that some have seemed to cross in this thread, and one that if it becomes societal, would have disastrous consequences.

Other factors are involved in Europe's case, of course. Increasing secularization of society, increasing emphasis on material wealth (e.g. families were larger 50 years ago and lived with far less than what they do now), delaying marriage, etc...

Hey, I don't object to cooking. Seems like more men cook than women these days. 😉 Or cleaning or all the rest.

Still, I think a traditional culture is superior to and far more sustainable than what you see in Europe right now. Just my $.02.

 

[akanene]

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[criminallyinane]

criminallyinane - You rock, and not that you need this support in any regard, but as far as I've read on here, you're actually picking and choosing between top ten medical schools. The top tens want you! You possess the sweet reality.

Thanks for the support Ambs and everyone on this thread 🙂 Looks like you did pretty darn well yourself - OHSU! Gosh, I love that school and city. YOU rock!

I am glad to know that there aren't many of my future colleagues who think like this troll!!

 

[Dr2010]

Ah, a bible thumper. It's all so clear now

I don't live my life according to an outdated, fictional text. If you'd like to, then hats off to you, but telling women that they should serve their husbands just makes you look d-u-m.

Hey Criminallyniane, i support what your saying, but please apologize for citing the Bible as a fictional text. It is by no means fictional, the events that occurred can be traced back to specific times and places in history, plz correct your mistake.

 

[criminallyinane]

Hey Criminallyniane, i support what your saying, but please apologize for citing the Bible as a fictional text. It is by no means fictional, the events that occurred can be traced back to specific times and places in history, plz correct your mistake.

I am sorry if you were offended by my comment, but my belief is that the Bible is fictional and there is no God. It is MY belief, that I hold strongly, and although I apologize if I offended you, I won't apologize for saying what I said, nor will I take it back. Although I stated that the Bible is fictional, my point was not to belittle religion, but rather to point out that this troll was trying to run a country based on a 2000? year old text that nobody can verify was written by "God." Subsequently, we can't just give up all logic and moral reasoniong to follow the word of "God" just because some religious people believe with fervor that this book is correct. The beauty of America is that we are not supposed to be a nation that only consider one point of view as "correct," no matter how firmly placed in the majority those people are. We allow for freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedoms that other countries do not allow, freedoms people have died for.

To revert to a church state as this troll clearly wants, or to keep swinging the pendulum back to having the Religious Right ruling women's bodies and people's right to marriage, is simply wrong and against the moral fiber of this country.

This is how I strongly feel, and I hope you can understand.

 

[Medikit]

As far as what the bible says about the TOPIC. Well I'd have to say that women seem to be encouraged to take the last name as a form of respect to the man as the head of the household just as Christ is the head of the body. Still it would be incredibly wrong if the husband were to in any way enforce her taking of his last name as they must love their wives as they love their own bodies. And as for my personal feelings, I would feel honoured if my future wife took my last name even as a hyphenation.

As our society moves away from marriage and toward legal unions I think that taking of the last name/hyphenating will become more associated with marriage while people merely pursuing a legal union will stick with the names with which they were born.

I'll use my future hubby's name. 🙂

(Not that I have anything against my maiden name!)

My mom had a really cool maiden name, much cooler than the one I got. Oh well. Mine does only have four letters in it, though, which is pretty cool when filling out scantrons.

 

[criminallyinane]

As far as what the bible says about the TOPIC. Well I'd have to say that women seem to be encouraged to take the last name as a form of respect to the man as the head of the household just as Christ is the head of the body. Still it would be incredibly wrong if the husband were to in any way enforce her taking of his last name as they must love their wives as they love their own bodies. And as for my personal feelings, I would feel honoured if my future wife took my last name even as a hyphenation.

Thanks for explaining. I think this is where differences come in. I don't consider a man to be the head of a household, especially when women in this day and age tend to have careers, do most of the child-rearing, housekeeping, and general organization of the family and house. I wonder how men in such positions could consider themselves the head of the household since their wives clearly run the show? But, I digress. Anyway, because I don't consider my husband to be the head of the house, I don't think his name should be bestowed upon me. I do, however, think it would be nice if we took each other's names and each had two (non-hyphenated) last names. We would use his personally, I imagine, and our own professionally.

As our society moves away from marriage and toward legal unions I think that taking of the last name/hyphenating will become more associated with marriage while people merely pursuing a legal union will stick with the names with which they were born.

Interesting thought.

 

[lorelei]

This has actually been a topic of discussion between me and my boyfriend. Assuming we get married, he would like me to take his name as a symbol of the family we'll make together; I want to keep mine. I have several reasons. For one thing, obviously (or maybe not so obviously, considering the trolls on this thread) my boyfriend isn't thinking of me as property or anything, but the fact is that the tradition is the way it is for that reason. He thinks that we've moved beyond that and it's a harmless tradition despite its basis, just like wearing white for weddings. But I still feel that it's sexist and I'm not comfortable doing it (though I certainly respect everyone's individual choice).

Also, I definitely want to use my name professionally because it's unique yet short. His is a common, simple name that can be either Asian or English, and probably every hospital has at least two Dr. Hisname's on staff. I like being unique.

I have no objection to using his name in social contexts though; already I make restaurant reservations that way because it's easier.

We haven't decided how we'll work this out yet, but I will definitely at least use my name professionally. I'm not necessarily opposed to being Lorelei Myname Hisname legally; what's good enough for Sandra Day O'Connor and Ruth Bader Ginsburg is probably good enough for me. And probably the kids will get his name, which is fine by me.

 

[ocean11]

First of all I am in medical school and my bf has no reason to use me for my money because he owns his own company....

ok now that I know you're 18 and my younger brother's age I think I understand lol . You're still a little boy.... awwwwww coochy coochy have you had your milk and cookies yet? do you want some? awwwwww so cute......

OK with that all said, I gotta tell you something, ADCOMS read these posts (I know my school does) and its VERY possible to track you down via your computer.. IP number. Many schools know WHO you are when you post and thus they know WHAT you say and what you post.... they keep track of 'trolls' or people who seem 'childish' .

Just thought I'd warn ya....... have a great day and don't forget to wash your hands after you use the washroom, there's a good boy 🙂

 

[CTG]

Feminist?

Okay, there is nothing shameful about being a feminist. You throw that term around like it's an accuastion. Being a feminist simply means that you believe in equal opportunities and respect for women. It does not mean that you have to be a bra-burning lesbian who doesn't shave her legs (not that there's anything wrong with being any of those things if you chose to). In fact, if you are not a feminist in the way I've described it, I think you really need to reexamine why you wouldn't subscribe to the belief that any human beings deserves those rights.

 

[CTG]

You are a female chauvenist.

Good luck finding a man who is willing to do what you want. Men do not want feminists.

Did you learn this type of thinking from your mother or by reading about the feminst movement in books?

This is not true. I can think of a few intelligent classy guys who like me simply because I'm not afraid to speak my mind and I don't kiss their asses like the "submissive" females you seem to like. Honestly, I think you're just a troll, but for the sake of argument I'm responding. I notice the only guys who don't like so-called "feminists" are those that don't have enough self-worth to take on an equal role in a relationship.
That being said, I still want to take my husband's last name because in my mind it has always been a nice tradition (unless of course my first name sounds ridiculous with his last name, then I'll keep my own.)
In conclusion, being a feminist doesn't have to mean being anti-male or anti-establishment all the time. It means being anti-unfairness. And it's not fair to lump all those fair-minded people as "feminists" with the negative connotation that you're implying.

 

[CTG]

1. Your boyfriend is has not reached manhood. He is still a boy. He always will be.

2. I have just finished my second year of undergrad after getting a 4.0 in both years. Considering I just turned 18, it would be safe to assume I am far better off than you were at my age.

3. ‘wives, serve your husbands, serve your husbands in everything’ Ephesians 5: 21-69

What part of this quotation do you not understand? Can I assume you are a democrat who doesn't feel Christianity should have any say in government? 🙄

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that you have never been laid...at least not for free. Just a thought.

 

[CTG]

well actually its not really a worldwide tradition at all. there are a ton of countries/cultures where as a norm people have 2 last names (one from their father and one from their mother), which i think is awesome, but since its not the norm here i feel like it would be confusing... actually travelling/living abroad people are quite surprised to find out that most americans only have one last name and generally it's the fathers. personally i think the individual should do what they want (and their spouse should respect that), ill probably keep my last name for professional reasons but to each his own.

In addition to that..in Iran, which is an Islamic country (and many people believe that Islamic women must be subservient to men-which is NOT the case) women keep their maiden names. I just think that's interesting to note.

 

[primadonna22274]

GROAN...
same argument my ex gave me (ridiculous)...finally gave in, changed my name, including changing all my legal documents AND my medical license AND my DEA license (not a simple process), all for nothing when he decided before a year was up he didn't want to be married anymore.
I won't change my name again for ANYONE, no matter how wonderful he is or how much I love him.
Lisa

If you loved him you'd take his name.

 

[primadonna22274]

Is this thread for real? This is frightening stuff.
Let me tell you, as an independent, smart, 31 y/o woman who has an ultimate faith in Jesus Christ, this is not Christianity. Read the Bible, cover to cover. Don't skip any of it. "God is Love", the first and foremost premise of Christianity. Not "women are less than men", "women should stay at home where they belong", yada yada yada. Grow up.
Reinforces to me that medical school must be as long as it is to allow these little kids to GROW UP and get at least a little of their idealism knocked out of 'em. Let's be real, and just understand that our greater purpose as human beings is to help other human beings. Humility goes a long way in accomplishing that greater good.
Lisa

1. There are many 14 year old men and 35 year old boys in this world.

2. How do you know her boyfriend is an MD/PhD at a top ten school? Proof? Fact?

3. My father is a surgeon who makes over one million dollars a year. That is my career plan too 😀

This country will be where it shoudl be in twenty years. Abortion will be outlawed. Gay marriage will continue to be outlawed. The number of women in medicine will decrease and Christianity will be the government.

This country has gone in the wrong direction due the feminist movement and America must be restored.

 

[Miss Alyssa]

The Bible teaches not to judge others, and you have done this many times in this thread. Right and wrong is not for you to decide. You should know better. Stop

“Any woman who keeps her last name is a feminist and the man should seriously reconsider marrying her”

“Feminist?”

“You are a female chauvinist”

“It is boys like you who give the male gender a bad reputation”

“But many female physicians put their careers over serving their husbands which is wrong”

“Your boyfriend is has not reached manhood. He is still a boy. He always will be.”

“Considering I just turned 18, it would be safe to assume I am far better off than you were at my age.”

“Ah, a democratic feminist/socialist. Now I understand”

“And we all know what type of girls female premeds are”

“You are a slug. No mind. No brain.”



As I side note, I feel for any female children/grandchildren you may have in the future.

 

[Miss Alyssa]

My bestfriend's grandfather died before she was born. He was murdered. Her father took on her grandfather's nickname as his last name. Now my bestfriend (and her younger sister - the only sibling) has her grandfather's nickname as her last name. Should my friend change her lastname to her husband's and have her grandfather's name forgotten?

 

[myrahu]

no last name can beat mine....all the jokes....Dr. WHO?....

 

[domm]

The way I look at it, I'd like to someday have a family. I'd like a family name. It doesn't necessarily have to be my family name. But, if you don't want to have the same name as me, I would have a hard time letting you be part of my family.

You could never be "Mr. and Mrs." It just feels less personal and less committed to have different names. Whenever your kids listed their parents names, I bet many people would assume that the parents were seperated or divorced if they had different names.

 

[wends]

2. I have just finished my second year of undergrad after getting a 4.0 in both years. Considering I just turned 18, it would be safe to assume I am far better off than you were at my age.

3. ‘wives, serve your husbands, serve your husbands in everything’ Ephesians 5: 21-69

What part of this quotation do you not understand? Can I assume you are a democrat who doesn't feel Christianity should have any say in government? 🙄

🙄 🙄 🙄 woohooo you got 4.0 both years, you must be soooo much better than everyone else! boy, when the adcoms see your shining personality they'll jump to take you!!

the us was founded on the notion that religion and government be separated due to past persecution in europe which the founding citizens came here to run away from, so yeah, christianity shouldnt have any say....

um...you're just in second year undergrad....you're the one thats a BOY

good luck finding a girl with half a brain thats willing to put up with you, or is mommy and daddy shipping one over? 🙄

 

[wends]

He's either trolling or the type of person who will one day hold a title like "Grand Wizard," in addition to his MD degree.
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the sad thing is that i think he's serious, he was on another thread freaking out because he couldnt convert his canadian gpa into the amcas one.....what a genius.... 🙄