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Here I sit on a Friday night drinking and thinking about what my next move will be. I got laid off today with 5 other pharmacists. We all worked there for over 5 years and got the kick because they are trimming the fat. This is a hospital job and their assessment is that pharmacy is a financial drain. They are giving more responsibilities to the tech and therefore, don't need as many pharmacists. As one nurse friend said, you guys sit on your ass and make six figures taking pills from big bottles and put it in little ones. lol

I have a friend who works at a compounding pharmacy and is expecting a huge pay cut. He said that the pharmacy he works for is nationwide and is planning on cutting pharmacists pay and giving more responsibilities to technicians. A word to you pre-pharmacy students...RUN!

Anyone with job leads??? I am exhausted and drunk so excuse any grammatical/spelling errors. lol Oh, to top it off, my fiancée suggested that we take a break and think things through. WTF??? Life sucks right now!

Thanks for reading. Just wanted to rant. 🙁
 
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What state are you in? I know there are lots of jobs in Cleveland right now.
 
What state are you in? I know there are lots of jobs in Cleveland right now.

CA, I am searching for gigs right now. The fact that my relationship is probably going to die anyways, I will be able to move anywhere. I would even live with goats as long as I can work. lol

Oh, thanks for responding.
 
Keep your head up dude, things can only get better from here. You're gonna stand up, find a better job and meet better girls, life goes on. Good luck
 
Keep your head up dude, things can only get better from here. You're gonna stand up, find a better job and meet better girls, life goes on. Good luck


Thanks! I hope you are right.
 
Anyone with job leads??? I am exhausted and drunk so excuse any grammatical/spelling errors. lol Oh, to top it off, my fiance suggested that we take a break and think things through. WTF??? Life sucks right now!

What a shocker... your fiance runs away immediately after you got laid off? :naughty:
 
What a shocker... your fiance runs away immediately after you got laid off? :naughty:

She didn't run off. lol She was very upset at the fact that we will have to postpone our wedding and life together. I don't blame her.
 
She didn't run off. lol She was very upset at the fact that we will have to postpone our wedding and life together. I don't blame her.

Man - no job - loser. Woman - no job - ok. She wants to take a break because you get laid off? Wtf... find a different woman now. She sees you as a provider, not a lover.
 
Man - no job - loser. Woman - no job - ok. She wants to take a break because you get laid off? Wtf... find a different woman now. She sees you as a provider, not a lover.


Yes, women are lining up for unemployed pharmacists. lol I think all women to some degree want a good provider. To some it is on the top of the list. Fact of life my brother.

Why do you think nurses go for MDs rather than PharmDs? It is all about $$$$$$$! :laugh:
 
That bitch just did you a favor. Running away the second there is an inkling of financial trouble? HUGE red flag. What you need to do is call her and permabreak it off before she tricks you into thinking she actually cares about you. Seriously. Pick up the phone and tell her to never try to contact you again. She just showed you her true colors. If you go back to her, you are a fool. In 6 years, you'll have two kids, she'll want a divorce, you'll be paying half your paycheck in woman child support, and living in a cramped apartment while some ******* lives in your house and bangs the mother of your children.

The job will take care of itself. This woman is what needs crushed now. Do it first thing in the morning. Call and say, "You know what, you're right. This isn't going to work out. You left my side at the first inkling of trouble. I can't trust you. Thank you for showing who you are. We are done. Forever. Don't try to contact me ever again." And then remove her from your life.

Then move away, get another job, find someone that isn't so pathetic and entitled that they leave you like that. She sees you as nothing but a status symbol ("My hubby makes 6 figs!") and a means to get more status symbols.
 
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Man - no job - loser. Woman - no job - ok. She wants to take a break because you get laid off? Wtf... find a different woman now. She sees you as a provider, not a lover.

Gota agree with others, this smells foul. Don't take a risk marrying the wrong woman, break off with her completly. A woman in it for the money will do a man in far worse and far longer than any layoff.
 
Gota agree with others, this smells foul. Don't take a risk marrying the wrong woman, break off with her completly. A woman in it for the money will do a man in far worse and far longer than any layoff.

It cracks me up how women whine about men treating them like objects.

You want to see being treated like an object? Being a man and being told you "need time apart" because of a temporary money situation by a gold digger of a fiance. All that you are as a person is boiled down to simply what you can provide to a woman financially. Being what we've been brainwashed to be. "A provider." **** that.

This dude? He just got treated like an object.

Be your own person, friend. Tell this woman what's what. You don't deserve to be treated like this. She can't have a stupid fancy wedding immediately and she instantly starts thinking about leaving. Think about that. She barely even thinks you are a person. You are just a character in her life, with no emotions, no feeling, no nothing. You are there to provide her with expensive handbags and a German luxury car (or whatever.) The second you might not be able to, well, you see how disposable you are to her.

Get that word in your head. She thinks you are disposable.

You deserve better.

Me? I've been married 8 years. We got married in a courthouse because neither of our parents had any money and neither did we. We lived in a trailer park. She stayed with me through an entire year of unemployment in 2010 and the thought of leaving me never crossed her beautiful mind because I'm not an object to her.

You need someone that asks how they can help when something traumatic happens. Not someone who cuts and runs because they think of themselves first and foremost.

If you learn nothing else in this portion of your life, learn who really cares about you.

Get on unemployment, get some licenses in Texas or other places with jobs, and start networking. Something good will happen.
 
Hospitals in the country are becoming more McDonalds-like than some retail chains. They can't care about quality of care anymore and since some pharmacists are there to improve the quality of care, they're gone first. I see experienced staff pharmacists keeping their jobs, many clinical types will be given the can soon.
 
It cracks me up how women whine about men treating them like objects.

You want to see being treated like an object? Being a man and being told you "need time apart" because of a temporary money situation by a gold digger of a fiance. All that you are as a person is boiled down to simply what you can provide to a woman financially. Being what we've been brainwashed to be. "A provider." **** that.

This dude? He just got treated like an object.

Be your own person, friend. Tell this woman what's what. You don't deserve to be treated like this. She can't have a stupid fancy wedding immediately and she instantly starts thinking about leaving. Think about that. She barely even thinks you are a person. You are just a character in her life, with no emotions, no feeling, no nothing. You are there to provide her with expensive handbags and a German luxury car (or whatever.) The second you might not be able to, well, you see how disposable you are to her.

Get that word in your head. She thinks you are disposable.

You deserve better.

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Yes, women are lining up for unemployed pharmacists. lol I think all women to some degree want a good provider. To some it is on the top of the list. Fact of life my brother.

Why do you think nurses go for MDs rather than PharmDs? It is all about $$$$$$$! :laugh:
I'm definitely not the norm when it comes to this kind of stuff, but I can provide for myself. I want someone to really dote on me.
 
Here I sit on a Friday night drinking and thinking about what my next move will be. I got laid off today with 5 other pharmacists. We all worked there for over 5 years and got the kick because they are trimming the fat. This is a hospital job and their assessment is that pharmacy is a financial drain. They are giving more responsibilities to the tech and therefore, don't need as many pharmacists. As one nurse friend said, you guys sit on your ass and make six figures taking pills from big bottles and put it in little ones. lol

I have a friend who works at a compounding pharmacy and is expecting a huge pay cut. He said that the pharmacy he works for is nationwide and is planning on cutting pharmacists pay and giving more responsibilities to technicians. A word to you pre-pharmacy students...RUN!

Anyone with job leads??? I am exhausted and drunk so excuse any grammatical/spelling errors. lol Oh, to top it off, my fiance suggested that we take a break and think things through. WTF??? Life sucks right now!

Thanks for reading. Just wanted to rant. 🙁

Sorry you lost your job.

Sadly this will become a common occurrence over the next few years as the market readjusts itself to the disaster know as Obamacare.
 
Sorry you lost your job.

Sadly this will become a common occurrence over the next few years as the market readjusts itself to the disaster know as Obamacare.

OBAAAAAMAAAAAAA!!!!!! **shakes fist at sky**
 
Here I sit on a Friday night drinking and thinking about what my next move will be. I got laid off today with 5 other pharmacists. We all worked there for over 5 years and got the kick because they are trimming the fat. This is a hospital job and their assessment is that pharmacy is a financial drain. They are giving more responsibilities to the tech and therefore, don't need as many pharmacists. As one nurse friend said, you guys sit on your ass and make six figures taking pills from big bottles and put it in little ones. lol

I have a friend who works at a compounding pharmacy and is expecting a huge pay cut. He said that the pharmacy he works for is nationwide and is planning on cutting pharmacists pay and giving more responsibilities to technicians. A word to you pre-pharmacy students...RUN!

Anyone with job leads??? I am exhausted and drunk so excuse any grammatical/spelling errors. lol Oh, to top it off, my fiance suggested that we take a break and think things through. WTF??? Life sucks right now!

Thanks for reading. Just wanted to rant. 🙁

Dude she isn't the right women if she wants to run right when there's a problem.
 
I'm sorry that happened to you. I can relate to what you are going though because I have no job. I'm sorry about your fiancée. She should stand by you while you're having a tough time, better you find this out now before you married her. Marriage is for better or for worse.
 
Problem is that most women are like this.

http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.com/2013/09/your-revenge-is-through-non.html

"The resulting revenge is not immediate, obvious, or climatic as in the end of a movie, but much much worse.

It is silent. Subtle. Cold. Delayed. Deferred. And unnoticeable until it is too late.

It is delivered when a 45 year old recent divorcee realizes it isn't 1992 any more and boys aren't thronging to take her to a "Poison" concert.

It is delivered when a 50 year old executive NOW decides it's time to settle down and all of her male peers are looking at 34 year olds.

It is delivered when the 42 year old comes up to you drunk in a sequin shirt saying "Cutie" and you in your heart of hearts have no desire to talk to the woman.

That is how your revenge is delivered."
 
The guy I like doesn't have a job either. You know how some hospitals are replacing doctors with nurse practitioners and physician assistants to be cheap? Now it's come full circle because they are replacing us with pharmacy technicians.
 
Thanks for all the supportive words everyone! I really appreciate it. I know I am a man and should not be bitching or crying about things but I am after all human. I really loved her and gave everything into the relationship. My guy friends always teased me that I was the bitch. lol I bent over backwards for this girl. Last night I got a text message from a mutual guy friend. He asked where I was since he saw her hanging out with one of her physician colleagues (she's a nurse) at one of our favorite bars. Apparently, there was something more going on for the guy to text me asking where I was. Anyways, I guess I need to put all my energy in getting a job and getting my life together. I have been pretty stupid for the last 2.5 years. I spent so much money buying her things, taking her on vacations, etc that I don't even have a solid savings account. What an idiot I was. A total *******!
 
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Thanks for all the supportive words everyone! I really appreciate it. I know I am a man and should not be bitching or crying about things but I am after all human. I really loved her and gave everything into the relationship. My guy friends always teased me that I was the bitch. lol I bent over backwards for this girl. Last night I got a text message from a mutual guy friend. He asked where I was since he saw her hanging out with one of her physician colleagues (she's a nurse) at one of our favorite bars. Apparently, there was something more going on for the guy to text me asking where I was. Anyways, I guess I need to put all my energy in getting a job and getting my life together. I have been pretty stupid for the last 2.5 years. I spent so much money buying her things, taking her on vacations, etc that I don't even have a solid savings account. What an idiot I was. I total *******!

You're not a *******. It's happened to countless guys before you and will happen to countless guys after. The best lessons in life are the ones you learn the hard way. You don't forget them. I bet you won't make the same mistake again.

Thank God it happened now before you got married and had kids. Your really screwed then. You got out of this comparatively easy.
 
Here I sit on a Friday night drinking and thinking about what my next move will be. I got laid off today with 5 other pharmacists. We all worked there for over 5 years and got the kick because they are trimming the fat. This is a hospital job and their assessment is that pharmacy is a financial drain. They are giving more responsibilities to the tech and therefore, don't need as many pharmacists. As one nurse friend said, you guys sit on your ass and make six figures taking pills from big bottles and put it in little ones. lol

I have a friend who works at a compounding pharmacy and is expecting a huge pay cut. He said that the pharmacy he works for is nationwide and is planning on cutting pharmacists pay and giving more responsibilities to technicians. A word to you pre-pharmacy students...RUN!

Anyone with job leads??? I am exhausted and drunk so excuse any grammatical/spelling errors. lol Oh, to top it off, my fiancée suggested that we take a break and think things through. WTF??? Life sucks right now!

Thanks for reading. Just wanted to rant. 🙁

I am sorry to hear that you lost your Job .Now what you got to do is take a couple days off to thin about the next step. As many have already advised, you may have to move to a different state. I am sure everything will be fine. The strongest man is not the one who never falls but the one who stands up when he falls. I wish you nothing but the best.
 
Thanks for all the supportive words everyone! I really appreciate it. I know I am a man and should not be bitching or crying about things but I am after all human. I really loved her and gave everything into the relationship. My guy friends always teased me that I was the bitch. lol I bent over backwards for this girl. Last night I got a text message from a mutual guy friend. He asked where I was since he saw her hanging out with one of her physician colleagues (she's a nurse) at one of our favorite bars. Apparently, there was something more going on for the guy to text me asking where I was. Anyways, I guess I need to put all my energy in getting a job and getting my life together. I have been pretty stupid for the last 2.5 years. I spent so much money buying her things, taking her on vacations, etc that I don't even have a solid savings account. What an idiot I was. I total *******!

Wow, she is out looking for the next provider already ? What a loser!
 
Thanks for all the supportive words everyone! I really appreciate it. I know I am a man and should not be bitching or crying about things but I am after all human. I really loved her and gave everything into the relationship. My guy friends always teased me that I was the bitch. lol I bent over backwards for this girl. Last night I got a text message from a mutual guy friend. He asked where I was since he saw her hanging out with one of her physician colleagues (she's a nurse) at one of our favorite bars. Apparently, there was something more going on for the guy to text me asking where I was. Anyways, I guess I need to put all my energy in getting a job and getting my life together. I have been pretty stupid for the last 2.5 years. I spent so much money buying her things, taking her on vacations, etc that I don't even have a solid savings account. What an idiot I was. A total *******!
She's a freakin' nurse! Say no more... Nurses know what it's like to have to take care of people, aka kiss and wipe ***, so they expect a full return on their societal investment. How else do you expect a nurse to be able to sit at home and play caretaker without marrying up? Duh!
 
She's a freakin' nurse! Say no more... Nurses know what it's like to have to take care of people, aka kiss and wipe ***, so they expect a full return on their societal investment. How else do you expect a nurse to be able to sit at home and play caretaker without marrying up? Duh!


Well, she never looked at marrying a pharmacist as marrying up. lol As a matter of fact, she mentioned several times during group dinners that she always wanted to marry a physician but didn't expect to fall in love with a pharmacist. Apparently, even her parents were not happy with her for dating a pharmacist. lol In other words I felt she was settling. Oh well, life goes on and it looks like she is moving on pretty fast. I just hope I can find a job ASAP so that I can move along and get far away as possible from her. I sent her about five text messages and she hasn't returned one yet. I have heard from mutual friends that she's been hanging around with this physician and seems very happy and content as if nothing in her life has changed. Only thing I can do now is take care of myself and rebuild. Damn! I really liked her. 🙁
 
I can smell a gold digger a mile away just from your first post. You are lucky she doesn't stick around. Your dream girl will want you as much as you want her regardless of your current situation. She is not worth it. I feel bad for the physician who is dating her. He is the greater fool.
 
I would dump this girl right now if I were you. Man up man, there are so many girls out there you can choose from, don't let the girl control your thought and emotions. My principle is this, one size does not fit all, so as you have a lot of people in your life to meet from, don't settle down for the less.
 
Well, she never looked at marrying a pharmacist as marrying up. lol As a matter of fact, she mentioned several times during group dinners that she always wanted to marry a physician but didn't expect to fall in love with a pharmacist. Apparently, even her parents were not happy with her for dating a pharmacist. lol In other words I felt she was settling. Oh well, life goes on and it looks like she is moving on pretty fast. I just hope I can find a job ASAP so that I can move along and get far away as possible from her. I sent her about five text messages and she hasn't returned one yet. I have heard from mutual friends that she's been hanging around with this physician and seems very happy and content as if nothing in her life has changed. Only thing I can do now is take care of myself and rebuild. Damn! I really liked her. 🙁
That physician will just dump her for a younger version of herself whenever she gets too old. It'll be just another sad story. Meh...

I guess I never really thought of marrying up as being so "relative", but then life wouldn't be nice and full of surprises now would it! A pharmacist can make just as much as a physician, so what gives?

I think male nurses are just as bad. For some reason female physicians are not on their radar, though, as far as I can tell, perhaps because female physicians are too intimidating, so they seem to go after female pharmacists instead. Male nurses try to get my attention at work... but I don't want to have anything to do with them. :slap: I would NEVER marry a nurse!
 
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That physician will just dump her for a younger version of herself whenever she gets too old. It'll be just another sad story. Meh...

I guess I never really thought of marrying up as being so "relative", but then life wouldn't be nice and full of surprises now would it! A pharmacist can make just as much as a physician, so what gives?

I think male nurses are just as bad. For some reason female physicians are not on their radar, though, as far as I can tell, perhaps because female physicians are too intimidating, so they seem to go after female pharmacists instead. Male nurses try to get my attention at work... but I don't want to have anything to do with them. :slap: I would NEVER marry a nurse!


The fact remains that a physician's training is far superior and more difficult and comprehensive than a pharmacist's. As a result, most people value them more than us. Plus an average physician makes twice that of a pharmacist. With that said, I think there is more to an individual than their academic achievements and monetary worth. However, her entire family is stuck on this status symbol and I am so glad I am out of it. In retrospect, I felt that I was always working and trying hard just to impress her and her parents. Now, I don't give a rat's behind!!! I am unemployed so they probably threw her a party for dumping me. Life is great!!! :laugh:

Thank God its football time!!! I invited this cute pharmacist that I know. At least she is my equal. 🙄
 
You're not a *******. It's happened to countless guys before you and will happen to countless guys after. The best lessons in life are the ones you learn the hard way. You don't forget them. I bet you won't make the same mistake again.

Thank God it happened now before you got married and had kids. Your really screwed then. You got out of this comparatively easy.

Bingo.

Its like getting pulled over with a pound of weed in your car and only getting a speeding ticket.

You just dodged a bullet and came out wiser. In the future, you will consider this last week one of the most fortuitous of your life.
 
Damn! I really liked her. 🙁

Move to a big city like NYC or LA and there'll be more girls than you can possibly handle 😉 after a few weekends you won't remember what she looks like
 
That physician will just dump her for a younger version of herself whenever she gets too old. It'll be just another sad story. Meh...

I guess I never really thought of marrying up as being so "relative", but then life wouldn't be nice and full of surprises now would it! A pharmacist can make just as much as a physician, so what gives?

I think male nurses are just as bad. For some reason female physicians are not on their radar, though, as far as I can tell, perhaps because female physicians are too intimidating, so they seem to go after female pharmacists instead. Male nurses try to get my attention at work... but I don't want to have anything to do with them. :slap: I would NEVER marry a nurse!

From what I've seen, men who trade their wives in for a younger model are the type that no self-respecting woman would want anyway, and weren't when they married Wife V. 1.0.

And at my old hospital, there was indeed a male nurse/female doctor married couple. I also know of several male pharmacist/female doctor couples, and in one case, the husband was largely a SAHD who did some relief work, because his wife was an OB/GYN. You really can't do OB and have children unless your spouse is a SAHP; this is something I've found out over the years. The exception to that would involve employing a full-time, live-in nanny, and most people wouldn't consider that.
 
I guess I never really thought of marrying up as being so "relative", but then life wouldn't be nice and full of surprises now would it! A pharmacist can make just as much as a physician, so what gives?

I do not foresee myself ever making as much as my wife, $400k would be a lot for a pharmacist. Her hours are almost the same as mine too, we both work weekdays 8-5pm.
 
In terms of marrying up; I think it is more of a girl thing than a guy thing. Most guys primarily look for physical attributes first and the rest later. LOL
 
In terms of marrying up; I think it is more of a girl thing than a guy thing. Most guys primarily look for physical attributes first and the rest later. LOL

this. Evolution still at work in this days and age. As much as people like to be politically correct, the basic instinct is still there.
 
The fact remains that a physician's training is far superior and more difficult and comprehensive than a pharmacist's. As a result, most people value them more than us. Plus an average physician makes twice that of a pharmacist. With that said, I think there is more to an individual than their academic achievements and monetary worth. However, her entire family is stuck on this status symbol and I am so glad I am out of it. In retrospect, I felt that I was always working and trying hard just to impress her and her parents. Now, I don't give a rat's behind!!! I am unemployed so they probably threw her a party for dumping me. Life is great!!! :laugh:

Thank God its football time!!! I invited this cute pharmacist that I know. At least she is my equal. 🙄
That is the spirit! Hopefully she is employed .... as a PHARMACIST.... making greater than $58.50/hr... not at the big box. 🙂
 
That is the spirit! Hopefully she is employed .... as a PHARMACIST.... making greater than $58.50/hr... not at the big box. 🙂

:laugh: Yes, she is! At least for now.
 
I wish you luck with the job hunt. As for the fiancee, I hope she had the decency to give the ring back.
 
I wish you luck with the job hunt. As for the fiancee, I hope she had the decency to give the ring back.

No, I got her a 5ct diamond. At this point I don't even care if she gives it back. Her mom and her sister came and picked up her stuff today. Acted like I was a loser who just wasted her daughter's time. As for my ex fiancee, she hasn't replied to my text messages or phone calls. I am in shock! I feel that I will wake up and realize this was just a very bad dream. Never pictured myself in this predicament. Not having a job and my fiancee taking off has been a huge blow to my self esteem. I keep asking myself, wtf just happened???
 
No, I got her a 5ct diamond. At this point I don't even care if she gives it back. I keep asking myself, wtf just happened???

She is never into you. She is into your paycheck. Next time, know your woman before you purpose.

If you want the physician to dump the girl after he is done bedding her however, just show him this thread :meanie:
 
No, I got her a 5ct diamond.

You need to get the ring back. You know what she is going to do with it? Sell it.

Even if you had broken the engagement, you are legally entitled to get the ring back. Send her an email or certified letter explaining that you need the ring to be returned immediately. Don't have her mail it to you. You need to pick it up and have someone there to witnessed it as well.

And seriously, who spends that much money on an engagement ring? Never try to buy someone's love. Never date someone who doesn't respect you.

You have already got her back. She wasted some of her youth on you. Time is her most valuable asset. If she is already in her mid or late 20s and things do not work out with the new guy after a couple of years then she is going to have a hard time landing a good guy.

Yes pharmacists do not make as much as physicians but it is also how you manage your money. Sell the ring and invest the money.
 
You need to get the ring back. You know what she is going to do with it? Sell it.

Even if you had broken the engagement, you are legally entitled to get the ring back. Send her an email or certified letter explaining that you need the ring to be returned immediately. Don't have her mail it to you. You need to pick it up and have someone there to witnessed it as well.

And seriously, who spends that much money on an engagement ring? Never try to buy someone's love. Never date someone who doesn't respect you.

You have already got her back. She wasted some of her youth on you. Time is her most valuable asset. If she is already in her mid or late 20s and things do not work out with the new guy after a couple of years then she is going to have a hard time landing a good guy.

Yes pharmacists do not make as much as physicians but it is also how you manage your money. Sell the ring and invest the money.


Yeah, do this, too. To hell with her keeping that ****.
 
Dear Jane Doe:

I expect you to return the engagement ring this week. I can meet you or your representative at the Starbucks on 5th street. I will have a mutual friend witness the return of my ring. I suggest you have one too.

Joe

P.S. Do you know many hours of overtime I need to work for that ring?
 
Get the ring back. Don't try to salvage the relationship. It's over. She's been trashing you to her family. There is no going back from that point.

How much does a 5ct ring cost? It sounds too much on a pharmacist's salary.
 
Dear Jane Doe:

I expect you to return the engagement ring this week. I can meet you or your representative at the Starbucks on 5th street. I will have a mutual friend witness the return of my ring. I suggest you have one too.

Joe

P.S. Do you know many hours of overtime I need to work for that ring?

:laugh::laugh:👍
 
my advice is to always forget about b*tches and keep your mind and energy on the money. keep your hustle, if you can't do pharmacy, do something else. Realistically speaking, when it comes to love, for women the only color that matters is green.
 
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