LECOM - Bradenton Discussion thread 2008-2009

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Hi all! This is one of my first posts on SDN (i've been a lurker for 2 years or so!) I interviewed at LECOM-Bradenton last Wed. 12/10. Congrats on the acceptances so far! I was wondering if they called your to tell you that you were accepted, or if you called and found out. I know they have made a decision, but Ms. Shively isn't in today for me to call and find out 🙁
Any info would be great, I know i'll find out my fate 😳 by mid-week next week but i'm anxious! Thanks!
 
I was accepted, and I called. 🙂

I don't think they would have called me... that wasn't what they indicated, at any rate. In fact I still haven't received my "acceptance letter." (Which is going right smack in the middle of the fridge!)

Congratulations to everyone else who made it! Best of luck to those waiting to hear!
 
Hey dofl2013!!!! Congratulations my man! I recall talking to yah in the parking lot and you were still spinning from having the quick turn around with the invite and iterview being just a day apart. I also got accepted today via snail mail and words cannot express how excited and honored I am to be attending LECOM-Bradenton for the Class of 2013!!!! I thought our whole group was awesome and the lecture explaining the PBL was to our benefit I thought. Go get 'em my fellow PBLers!!!!
 
is lecom-bradenton PBL like the other campus?

In theory. But, allow me to tell you a story...

Once upon a time, the young Dr. Kreuger was the head of the LECOM-Erie PBL program. It was going really well, and the students were doing extremely well on their boards.

Then, Dr. Feretti decided to open a PBL only branch campus in Florida. But who could be the leader of such a satellite campus? Why, none other than Dr. Kreuger, who ran the PBL program in Erie so well!

Time passed, and Dr. Kreuger had resounding success with the Florida PBL program. LECOM-Bradenton had the #2 DO board scores in the country after only 2 years of being open!!!

But what became of LECOM-Erie's PBL program???

Well, they say that although the ghost of Dr. Kreuger still walks the halls of LECOM-Erie, his successor has not been able to fill his shoes. Consequently, LECOM-Erie's board scores have fallen, and some say that the LECOM-Erie LECTURE students 😱 do better on COMLEX than the PBL students.

But then again, it's just a story...or is it?

It may or may not be true, but I've heard (mostly on SDN) that LECOM-Erie students are less happy with their PBL. Then again, they also have to suffer through winter and snow. But, they get the fancy new gym...so meh.
 
thanks so im guessing ur a bradenton student, how do you like the PBL, are you guys still #2 on th board scores?
 
thanks so im guessing ur a bradenton student, how do you like the PBL, are you guys still #2 on th board scores?

I haven't heard the official word yet...we were either #2 or #1 this last year.

Love PBL. Test on Monday. Lots of Work. LOTS of work. It's worth it though. I've talked to friends of mine at other MD schools (not starting a MD/DO war...they just happen to go to MD schools) and we are light years ahead of them.

So far this semester I've covered around 70-80 chapters and they've covered anatomy and biochem.

I also think we retain stuff better, since we're not learning biochem one time and never touching it again until boards, two years later. We are constantly revisiting topics. I've been tested on Lung Anatomy 3 times this semester.

I love it...I'll love it more after the test on Monday. Gotta run!
 
thanks so im guessing ur a bradenton student, how do you like the PBL, are you guys still #2 on th board scores?

I haven't heard anything about the scores from the class of 2010, but...
-Class of 2009 had 2nd highest COMLEX scores and 2nd highest pass rate (~97%)
- Class of 2010: again at ~97% pass rate for Step 1, not sure of avg scores yet or any ranks.
 
if you dont mind, could you give us an example of what PBL really is...im really interested
 
if you dont mind, could you give us an example of what PBL really is...im really interested

Go back through this thread. You should find some pretty in-depth descriptions a few pages back.

If you can wait a couple days, I'll retype/find it for you...but I can't right now...too much to study!
 
im pretty patient ill wait a couple days or so and be on the look out
 
im pretty patient ill wait a couple days or so and be on the look out

I was going to look up some old posts, but I think it'll be easier just to re-explain it again.

What is PBL? by Digitlnoize

PBL stands for problem based learning. There are different styles of PBL and if you really want to know more about the method, check out wikipedia or google. Basically the idea is to learn something by applying the information to a given problem.

So, here's a run down of a normal PBL week right now.

Monday: Meet as a group from 1-3. Our faculty "facilitator" gives us a patients chief complaint...let's say: "38yo WM with Chest Pain (CP) and Shortness of Breath (SOB)." We come up with a differential diagnosis...basically this part is like "House".

Next we role play for a few minutes and someone plays the doctor while someone else is the patient. This lets us practice out patient interviewing skills.

Next we get a written copy of the history, and we go through it as a group...identifying any terms that seem like someone might not know them. Let's say the patient told us that he was taking metoprolol.

Now we look up metoprolol and see what drug that is, and what it does. Is it related to his condition? How does it work? etc. etc.

Next we ask for a physical exam page. This has his vitals and the results of a physical exam, as they would be typed up in a chart (also good practice). We again note anything abnormal or weird sounding and figure out what it is or if it means anything for our case.

Now we order tests. We'll usually get a CBC, Chem-7, Chest X-ray, UA, maybe an ABG, EKG, etc etc...

We look at the results of these and see if there is anything abnormal and how it might relate to our patient.

I should add that we do this by looking up everything in our basic science books. At this point, we're mostly in physiology, biochem, path, pharm...

At this point, we're probably tapped out for the day, so we pick what things we should read about until our next meeting on Wed. Examples for this imaginary case might include: Heart Anatomy, Heart Physiology, Beta-Blocker Pharm, EKG phys...We do a quick wrap-up (how did we think the day went...did we have any problems?)

Now I go home and read/learn until our next meeting on Wed.

Wednesday: Meet. Someone presents the case as a SOAP note. We discuss what we read, and how it might relate. Hopefully we have another more advanced test to order. In this case, we suspect an MI, so we'll order a CK-MB and/or Troponin. These enzymes will tell us if there's been any heart muscle damage and help confirm our direction. If they come back negative, then we're on the "wrong" track and need to dig deeper to see what else could cause his symptoms. Luckily (for us, at least), they're elevated, so we move on with our plan. More tests, more results.

Things move at different paces for different cases, days, and groups. If a test result page is REALLY complicated, we might spend an hour trying to figure out what that page means. Other days, we can finish a case in 1 sitting.

Anyways, we pick some more chapters to read...probably more in-depth heart phys, ekg, maybe some shock (depending on his symptoms), maybe some path or biochem of how CK/troponin work. Wrap-up. Go home read, maybe review the other stuff. We also have assigned readings, so I might also work on these...

Friday: Meet. Present case SOAP note. Really we just finish the case. At this point we know what the disease is, how it works, and we've looked up how to treat it. Get more pages telling us about how we saved the patient (or he died, or whatever) and how we did it. Look up any info on those pages (usually drugs, or surgical treatments, or something of that sort). Now we pick what topics we'll be tested on from this case and we move on to the next one. Wrap up. Wash, Rinse, Repeat.

The idea here, is that we're learning how to find information on our own...which is what you'll have to do in the real world. We're also applying what we're learning to an actual patient case, which helps...less boring than staring at powerpoints.

We also integrate the material in different books. Reading heart phys while reading heart anatomy really can help cement things in your brain.

You'll also return to the same topics several times. I've been tested on lung anatomy 3 times this semester...

Ok...hope that helps. You can find more info and other people's opinions a few pages back in this thread. I would recommend reading all of this thread, and maybe even the one from last year if you're really interested in the school.

One final note: Alot of schools do PBL in different ways. Some good, others bad. I personally think that we're in the "good" category...judging by our board scores, others agree.

Hope that helps!
 
Great post.👍 I think I feel in love a little deeper with the LECOM-B now😍😍.
 
Wow, PBL at Bradenton sounds pretty damn interesting!

That description makes me think, "I want that"...the line from Napoleon Dynamite.
 
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Awww. Thanks you guys. I try.

It really is a great program. From talking to my MD semester 1 friends, we've covered about 1000x more material than them, and I've taught it all to myself. I rock. 🙂
 
Unfortunately, I have seven more months before I can even apply.🙁
 
Hey, that's more time to learn everything ahead of time. Make life easier on yourself! 😀


That is very true and I am for which you and others contribute to that knowledge.🙂
 
thanks for the infor dr. mario,
does anyone know where we an find the questions to the secondary, i would like to start it before receiving it...thanks
 
Hey just wanted to send out a big Congrats to the new acceptance and a good luck to the interviewees...LECOM is a great school and you will love it

I also wanted to mention, for all of those who have been accepted already....although it is probably way early for you to think about...I am selling all of my books, this includes, all of the required books, a ton of the BRS, High Yield, Kaplan and other review books and a bunch of extra stuff I will throw in for free...These books are barely used (1 semester) some of them have never been opened (because we haven't needed them) and not only will I give you great prices, but you wont have to

a) pay for shipping
b) pay taxes
c) search around a dozen different websites ordering them

Wow...what a deal :laugh: If you are interested in some, all or any, PM me and we can talk details

Again...Good luck, you guys will love it here!
 
I just emailed about not taking the acceptance. Best of luck to all that end up there. Great school. Just had other reasons for choosing a different one.
 
Awww. Thanks you guys. I try.

It really is a great program. From talking to my MD semester 1 friends, we've covered about 1000x more material than them, and I've taught it all to myself. I rock. 🙂

While I'm sure you may have a more wide range of knowledge than someone who goes to a traditional medical education this early in your schooling, it will all even out mostly by 2nd year I am guessing.

My real question is about your comment that you're ahead of your peers, and that you've taught it all yourself. How then do you feel about paying almost $30k in tuition a year to teach yourself medicine? Do you receive any instruction or guidance from the school during your studies? If you perform poorly on an exam, what can yu do? Who can you talk to for feedback?
 
I think it is important to realize that your tuition is still going into your education. One of the reasons LECOM CAN have a fairly low tuition is because of PBL and not having 200 different people on staff. There is still lots of time and money invested into things like curriculum development. There are still people that teach there and people you can go ask questions. If you feel the best illustration of your money is by sitting in class while the professor talks then that is ok. LECOM isn't just a building where you roam around with medical books blindly. The tuition contributes to a controlled education for every step of the way. Its just that you learn to rely on your books more than 800 pages of powerpoint slides.
 
I think it is important to realize that your tuition is still going into your education. One of the reasons LECOM CAN have a fairly low tuition is because of PBL and not having 200 different people on staff. There is still lots of time and money invested into things like curriculum development. There are still people that teach there and people you can go ask questions. If you feel the best illustration of your money is by sitting in class while the professor talks then that is ok. LECOM isn't just a building where you roam around with medical books blindly. The tuition contributes to a controlled education for every step of the way. Its just that you learn to rely on your books more than 800 pages of powerpoint slides.


Well said. 👍
 
Just sent in my deposit. A little upset about the steep price tag attached, Nonrefundable at that. But I was incredibly impressed by the school and would be incredibly happy attending. But as of now I'm waiting on some other Florida Schools so we'll see what happens. Mossposh I actually think I interviewed with you on 9/19. Anyway goodluck to everyone else this interview season LECOM-B is the ****. And Mossposh hit the nail on the head with where your money goes.
 
While I'm sure you may have a more wide range of knowledge than someone who goes to a traditional medical education this early in your schooling, it will all even out mostly by 2nd year I am guessing.

My real question is about your comment that you're ahead of your peers, and that you've taught it all yourself. How then do you feel about paying almost $30k in tuition a year to teach yourself medicine? Do you receive any instruction or guidance from the school during your studies? If you perform poorly on an exam, what can yu do? Who can you talk to for feedback?

MossPoh is correct. The staff are very helpful and we are encouraged to go talk to them if we have a question about a specific topic, or need something explained more clearly.

Honestly, the material is not difficult...it's simply the volume. The only questions I've needed to ask are about times when the books conflict on a topic...which is pretty rare.

I am from Virginia, and would have been paying $25k-$35k no matter where I ended up. Our state schools were just as expensive as LECOM...

And, like MossPoh said, I'd rather pay the school to do what they're doing than to pay them to make me sit in lecture all day. I just don't feel that's the best way to learn.

You really don't need a "teacher" for medical school. No one can put this information in your head but you. Again, it's not difficult material. I have taught my 7 year old daughter some of what we learn, and she is perfectly capable of understanding it. If a 7 year old can draw the brachial plexus, I think you can too.

Medical school is hard because of the amount of information you have to cram in your head in two years. It's an insane amount of information. But, it's not like quantum physics where having a teacher really helps.

I do think teachers are helpful for the "hands-on" aspects of medicine. That's why OMM is lecture/lab based. That's why we see standardized patients in Clinical Exam. That's why we do clinical rotations where the grown up docs teach us how to do chest tubes and whatnot. You need a teacher for that stuff.

You don't need someone to explain coagulation or respiratory physiology to you. That's why many students at lecture based programs skip class and sit at home and do exactly what I do. Read their books. I'd rather pay LECOM-B to do PBL than waste my money on lecturers no one wants or needs.

Just my opinion. But, I would bet that as more PBL schools catch on and the results become more widespread, you'll see a dramatic change in how "traditional" medical school is taught. Remember though, that not everyone does better in a PBL curriculum. Some people do need to be "spoon fed" from lecture. But, I would say it's a minority.
 
While I'm sure you may have a more wide range of knowledge than someone who goes to a traditional medical education this early in your schooling, it will all even out mostly by 2nd year I am guessing.

My real question is about your comment that you're ahead of your peers, and that you've taught it all yourself. How then do you feel about paying almost $30k in tuition a year to teach yourself medicine? Do you receive any instruction or guidance from the school during your studies? If you perform poorly on an exam, what can yu do? Who can you talk to for feedback?

MossPoh was right on with his comments.

I'll just add some of my comments since the idea of "why pay $30k a year (actually ~27k) to teach yourself" comes up fairly often. At first I had some similar thoughts but going into my last semester of pre-clinical education those worries are more than gone. The thing is that when someone says that they're assuming that in a traditional lecture program that you're taught everything IN lecture..... I guess it's always possible for someone to understand everything by being told it once, but ask some students in lecture programs how much time they spend in going back over the concepts/facts presented during lecture and ask if they ever have to go into books/other sources to clarify something.

I'll admit that it is a LOT of work and there are times when I'm real stressed and just think, "why can't someone just tell me exactly what I need to know." Well, that's not going to happen in ANY sort of program, let alone in real life when you're on rotations and suddenly have to figure out how interpret a lab result or some disease pathophys.

Like someone else mentioned, the faculty is of course always around and available to answer questions. They are not, however, just going to give you the answer if you haven't tried to work through it yourself though. I've only gone to clarify something a few times because I get MUCH more out of it if I can synthesize the material and answer my own question. Even if it has a fairly straight forward answer I now have just read around the issue and understand more about that particular "process/lab result/diesease,etc" than if I had just been told the answer.

Hope that clarified things somewhat. In the end pretty much every med student in the country is going to have to cover basically the same material during their first two years and this is just one way to approach it. Granted, this particular way may involve more work on the part of students compared to a lecture program, but at least for me, I'll put in a little extra work now so that when I start rotations I pretty much won't have to change my approach to studying.... I will already have had two years of managing this stuff fairly independently while figuring what was important and what wasn't.
 
...The thing is that when someone says that they're assuming that in a traditional lecture program that you're taught everything IN lecture..... I guess it's always possible for someone to understand everything by being told it once, but ask some students in lecture programs how much time they spend in going back over the concepts/facts presented during lecture and ask if they ever have to go into books/other sources to clarify something.

I'll admit that it is a LOT of work and...

Thanks. This was very helpful in helping me understand why PBL can work for some without feeling "gipped" or alone. Good luck to you all at LECOM.
 
Thanks. This was very helpful in helping me understand why PBL can work for some without feeling "gipped" or alone. Good luck to you all at LECOM.

No problem. It is a hard thing to really grasp since we're talking about a curriculum and different learning styles, but feel free to ask if anything else comes up!

Oh, besides the faculty don't forget about other classmates as a VERY important source while studying. At this point I've got a handful of really close friends that I'll study with and if a question comes up it's usually them I go to first.
 
hello, I dont remember If I have posted in this thread or not but I plan on applying to LECOM-B for the 2010 cycle. I had a few questions regarding employment of my significant other. She is a social worker who prefers geriatrics. She absolutely loves working in a long term care setting. I know this is a little presumptious but we both want to end up in Florida and I will be applying to most of DO schools there as I am a fan of the Osteopathic philosophy and the nice florida weather. I have read through some of the thread and noticed that if your spouse woulud like to be employed he/she would have to travel 30 minutes north/south to gain employment. I was wondering if there were any long term care facilities in/or near bradentone thats closer then 30 minutes? I know this is the pre-med thread but I see that a significant amount of LECOM-B students post frequently to help. any input would be greatly appreciated.

thank you
 
hello, I dont remember If I have posted in this thread or not but I plan on applying to LECOM-B for the 2010 cycle. I had a few questions regarding employment of my significant other. She is a social worker who prefers geriatrics. She absolutely loves working in a long term care setting. I know this is a little presumptious but we both want to end up in Florida and I will be applying to most of DO schools there as I am a fan of the Osteopathic philosophy and the nice florida weather. I have read through some of the thread and noticed that if your spouse woulud like to be employed he/she would have to travel 30 minutes north/south to gain employment. I was wondering if there were any long term care facilities in/or near bradentone thats closer then 30 minutes? I know this is the pre-med thread but I see that a significant amount of LECOM-B students post frequently to help. any input would be greatly appreciated.

thank you

Don't know for sure, but I'm pretty sure there are some long term care facilities in the area...given the % of retirees also...although it's not as high as you might think, according to wikipedia, at least...

In general, the job market is not spectacular though. Worst case is that you'd have to drive up to St. Pete or Tampa...but even that's not that bad.

Google around and see what you can find in the area...I'm sure there are places.
 
Well if it's geriatrics she's interested in you're on the right track in looking at Florida.

Job market will be the determining factor here. I would imagine though that there's a fairly decent turnover in that field and that local centers/agencies could always use a social worker. Funding though could be a major issue, but if she's a social worker then there are any number of avenues she could look into.... hospice, government agency, hospital, private nursing/assisted living center, etc...

Tidewell Hospice (www.tidewell.org) is the local hospice group for Bradenton and Sarasota area so you could contact them to see what sort of positions they may have available.

You can also google the local hospitals and see what they have open (Manatee Memorial, Blake Medical, Lakewood Ranch Medical Center, Doctor's Hospital of Sarasota, Sarasota Memorial).

Not too mention any of the various nursing homes and assisted living centers scattered ALL throughout the area. In Florida at least, we have "homes" that differ greatly in the level of care they offer.... from full care nursing homes/specialty care centers (like for Alz) to basic assisted living centers that are more like retirement centers with some basic level nursing support on site.

In general, I would think that with her field the determining factor shouldn't be the location here, but just the luck of the draw on what positions are available at what time. As opposed to if she was in another field that was really only concentrated in larger cities like Tampa.
 
Its been a long time... getting from there to here.

I'm going to LECOM-B class of 2013!! 😀 Getting that acceptance letter was the happiest moment of my life since getting into college.

PLB rules. :biglove: I'm probably one of the few students that has had PBL as an undergrad (my chem prof literally wrote the book on undergrad PBL). So I knew going into this that LECOM-B would be a great school for me. I can truthfully say that I've probably leaned 10% of what I know in a lecture hall. The rest came from long hours in the library. That's why I was so excited to learn there was a DO school doing all PBL.

For all those who have yet to interview don't worry about it. The people at LECOM-B are all chill. Just make sure going into it that you would at least consider an all PBL based school.

I'm really looking forward to med school at Bradenton... considering it's 17 degrees outside where I am now with ice everywhere :uhno:.
 
Don't know for sure, but I'm pretty sure there are some long term care facilities in the area...given the % of retirees also...although it's not as high as you might think, according to wikipedia, at least...

In general, the job market is not spectacular though. Worst case is that you'd have to drive up to St. Pete or Tampa...but even that's not that bad.

Google around and see what you can find in the area...I'm sure there are places.

Well if it's geriatrics she's interested in you're on the right track in looking at Florida.

Job market will be the determining factor here. I would imagine though that there's a fairly decent turnover in that field and that local centers/agencies could always use a social worker. Funding though could be a major issue, but if she's a social worker then there are any number of avenues she could look into.... hospice, government agency, hospital, private nursing/assisted living center, etc...

Tidewell Hospice (www.tidewell.org) is the local hospice group for Bradenton and Sarasota area so you could contact them to see what sort of positions they may have available.

You can also google the local hospitals and see what they have open (Manatee Memorial, Blake Medical, Lakewood Ranch Medical Center, Doctor's Hospital of Sarasota, Sarasota Memorial).

Not too mention any of the various nursing homes and assisted living centers scattered ALL throughout the area. In Florida at least, we have "homes" that differ greatly in the level of care they offer.... from full care nursing homes/specialty care centers (like for Alz) to basic assisted living centers that are more like retirement centers with some basic level nursing support on site.

In general, I would think that with her field the determining factor shouldn't be the location here, but just the luck of the draw on what positions are available at what time. As opposed to if she was in another field that was really only concentrated in larger cities like Tampa.
thanks a lot for posting so quickly. I know I couuld have just gone to wiki and did a search but I just wanted some insight from people who actually live in the area and know whats in bradenton. I know there are tons of hospitols, etc. but for some reason(not knockin her) she just loves old people, she even got a minor IN geriatrics, so assisited living is def. her call in life. Its good to know there are specialty care centers and some basic retirement care centers in the area. i will def. google it to see if there are jobs and again thank you guys so much for your time and quick posts
 
I'm going to LECOM-B class of 2013!! 😀 Getting that acceptance letter was the happiest moment of my life since getting into college.

*snip*

I'm really looking forward to med school at Bradenton... considering it's 17 degrees outside where I am now with ice everywhere :uhno:.

Congrats!!! And hey, it was 15 degrees where I am this morning so I completely know how you feel. 😀
 
i have been verified for about a month now and every other school has sent me their secondary but this one, did you guys have to wait this long for a secondary?
 
Not to rub it in or anything but I just walked the dog in my shorts.... The other day I debated going to the pool to do some reading as it got fairly close to 80. 😀

Grrrr. Next year, I am NOT going home for xmas.
 
MossPoh was right on with his comments.

Yay. Go me. 😉


So, I was talking school stuff with another member of this forum. She will rename nameless, unless she decides to pop in here and bring it up. Anyway, she mentioned something about some expulsions the past two years. Something about a person failing their pbl test and then getting expelled over remediation. I just wonder what truth there is behind this, and if true, if there were other angles to the story. (I'm sure there are.) While nobody thinks they'll be the one that fails an exam, the remediation process is good to be familiar with at the school you attend.

I was reading the handbook and according to the story told some things didn't jive. This isn't trying to start any argument or rumors. It is simply trying to clarify those weird things about a person being expelled first semester the past two years. (Another person was mentioned but the discussion was focused on one recently)
 
....I was reading the handbook and according to the story told some things didn't jive....

I have several friends that have been told they were history. If you fail anything, you will have to go before the student progress committee. If you fail several things it's likely that you will be told you are out. However, you have the right to appeal any decision at all. I have known several folks who have appealed and all were given another chance. Typically, from what I've seen, the outcome of the appeals process is that they will allow you to take a comprehensive exam in that subject (or subjects). If you pass you are re-instated. If you fail, you are usually given the option to repeat the year. I have seen this happen quite a few times in my three years at Lecom-B. I know of one student who "failed out" twice and was still given the chance to take a remediation exam. Had she passed that, she would be on rotations with me now. Alas, that did not happen.

I have also known people who just gave up, didn't appeal, and aren't in medical school anymore. You need to know your rights as written in the handbook before you meet with the committe because they won't baby sit you on this. However, if you are willing to put in the effort, they have a history of working to help keep you in school. There are some people that started a year ahead of me, who are now in my class or a year behind me.
 
Is anyone the same situation as me? The admissions committee is going to re-review my application end of january. I have a feeling since its so late that cannot be good. What do you guys think?
 
Is anyone the same situation as me? The admissions committee is going to re-review my application end of january. I have a feeling since its so late that cannot be good. What do you guys think?

It's nowhere near late. With rolling admissions they will be accepting new people until April. Waitlist people will be pulled off until a week or two before school starts as people decline spots slowly. I didn't even apply until January. Last year, there were people accepted who didn't even take the MCAT until January.
 
Turned in my secondary the other day... after 1.75 months of waiting for my undergrad school to send AACOMAS my transcripts and another month waiting to be verified...

Here's my "please oh please" post. Please??
 
The thing is they are rereviewing my app in end of january, and I have not even be given an interview yet. Is this the norm? love to hear what you all think
 
I am pretty much in the same boat. DO never even crossed my mind as an option but the more I am reading the more I am completely sold on it.

Basically, my primary app isn't even processed yet. And I am searching for a DO to shadow and hopefully get a letter of rec from within a month? Is that sufficient time or is it too late?

(gpa 3.5 mcat 27 but 10,7,10..volunteering at childrens hospital... can i get in to DO school or do i need yet another year off to really work on improving my application)

I am trying to find a thread or something where people who are accepted show there "stats" or something so I can see what I am up against.....
 
I am pretty much in the same boat. DO never even crossed my mind as an option but the more I am reading the more I am completely sold on it.

Basically, my primary app isn't even processed yet. And I am searching for a DO to shadow and hopefully get a letter of rec from within a month? Is that sufficient time or is it too late?

(gpa 3.5 mcat 27 but 10,7,10..volunteering at childrens hospital... can i get in to DO school or do i need yet another year off to really work on improving my application)

I am trying to find a thread or something where people who are accepted show there "stats" or something so I can see what I am up against.....

I would say that you have a chance. I had a 3.4 and 8 10 10 and got in last year, no problem. I was an ER scribe and there was a DO in our ER that I "shadowed" and got a letter from.

That being said, I also know that LECOM-B is getting crazy competitive. Word has kind of gotten out about how awesome the school is, so things might get harder from here on out. One of my friends with stats similar to yours got an interview this year, but got waitlisted...

THAT being said, lol, LECOM-B truly does pick people that they think will excel at PBL. They turned down someone the other day with a 32 and 3.8 because they didn't feel the person was right for PBL.

You can find a rough idea of school stats here: www.mdapplicants.com.

I know it says MD, but it includes DO schools, just search the school you want. Keep in mind that this site is NOT a scientific poll, and averages tend to run high, if anything.

I would give it a shot. It's only a hundred bucks or so, and if you get in, you'll have saved yourself a year. Then again, if you feel you aren't ready, take a year off...there's also no rush. Unless you're old like me!
 
i have been verified for about a month now and every other school has sent me their secondary but this one, did you guys have to wait this long for a secondary?

I received my LECOM secondary invite a day after my AACOMAS was processed (12/4/08). Was just called this morning for an interview.....I'm so happy 🙂 And yet....also very surprised since my numbers are mediocre and I don't have the required letter from an osteopathic physician....although I guess they said they can help me out with this.
 
I received my LECOM secondary invite a day after my AACOMAS was processed (12/4/08). Was just called this morning for an interview.....I'm so happy 🙂 And yet....also very surprised since my numbers are mediocre and I don't have the required letter from an osteopathic physician....although I guess they said they can help me out with this.


So they gave you an interview without the letter from the DO?? I will have two sci proff send letters..

you guys are giving me hope! thanks so much
 
So they gave you an interview without the letter from the DO?? I will have two sci proff send letters..

you guys are giving me hope! thanks so much

Well....what happened is that my AACOMAS app finally processed and LECOM was the first to send me a secondary. I must have missed their statement about the required letter from a DO.....so I e-mailed each campus to tell them this and ask that my app be withdrawn. LECOM-Erie withdrew it and Annette from LECOM-B e-mailed me to say that they could help me out with that aspect of the app....so I said I was still interested in pursuing the app and she said I'll be scheduled to meet with one of their DOs when I go in for my interview on Jan 28.
 
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