Let's also start Rejection(2007-08) thread !!

[d2754]

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I know Everybody is posting only their acceptance. Let's also start a rejection thread !!!!! I got so frustrated to see my first rejection from Loma linda School.
We would post in a format:




Part 1/part 2 :
Toefl:
GPA:
Nationallity:
work experience/extra:
Applied:
rejection:
Interview:
acceptance:
School choosen:


This is my status:

Part 1/part 2 : 89/79
Toefl: 100
GPA: 3.5
Nationallity: Indian
work experience/Extra:three years in the USA as a dental assistant
Applied: Almost all of the schools except in Pittsburg
rejection: Loma linda, UOP, U Of MIchi
Interview:
acceptance:
School choosen:

Everybody please post at least your rejection here. It's hard to declare rejection but that's why we are here to let each other know about the competition of getting admission.

hi
my nbdpart1 --86
gpa 4.oo
toefl 102
can u tell me about is it enough for apply for bu n nyu

 

[d2754]

can anyone guide me
my nbd score 86
gpa 4.oo
toefl 102
i would like to apply for 2008 batch

 

[akg]

one more rejection🙁🙁🙁🙁 ....now its UMN's turn

total 3 ( upenn, Uthsca, UMN)

 

[monreal]

I'm in the rejection thread too.

NBDE I: 97 (Dec 06)
NBDE II: 90
GPA (ECE): 2.90
TOEFL (iBT): 104
Nationality: Syrian
Work Exp: 2 Years in Syria. 4 years in France. None in the US
Applied to: (13 in total): 5 in California, BU, Tufts, UPitts, UPenn, NJ, UMN, Columbia, UMich.
Interview offered: All except UPitts (rejected).
Interviewed: Tufts, UPenn, UMN, LLU...I cancelled the rest when I recieved Tufts early acceptance .
Accepted: Tufts, UPenn, UMN, LLU.
Rejected: By a US Consular Officer who was fighting with his coffee, then he declared that my french accent is fake and I won't go back to Canada!
Going to: Any gas station in downtown Montreal

btw how do you guys from India or the middle-east make the officer digest your BS "Im gonna spent 180K in the US, and once I get my license, I'll come back to serve my people" ? Any ideas??

 

[dosanjh]

hi monreal,

its very sad that consuler rejected your application..thats so rude..it hurts me ..with brilliant score you got everywhere ...I am sure there must be some way out.. what exactly was his problem..must had bad day ...
he is on a good post thats why he didnt realise how much hard work is required to get score like 97 ...i can understand you must had felt very bad..i dont have much to say,but brother have faith in god he will do some arrangements..i am in downtown toronto if you need any help from here let me know.

 

[akg]

I'm in the rejection thread too.

NBDE I: 97 (Dec 06)
NBDE II: 90
GPA (ECE): 2.90
TOEFL (iBT): 104
Nationality: Syrian
Work Exp: 2 Years in Syria. 4 years in France. None in the US
Applied to: (13 in total): 5 in California, BU, Tufts, UPitts, UPenn, NJ, UMN, Columbia, UMich.
Interview offered: All except UPitts (rejected).
Interviewed: Tufts, UPenn, UMN, LLU...I cancelled the rest when I recieved Tufts early acceptance .
Accepted: Tufts, UPenn, UMN, LLU.
Rejected: By a US Consular Officer who was fighting with his coffee, then he declared that my french accent is fake and I won't go back to Canada!
Going to: Any gas station in downtown Montreal

btw how do you guys from India or the middle-east make the officer digest your BS "Im gonna spent 180K in the US, and once I get my license, I'll come back to serve my people" ? Any ideas??

are you kidding!!!!!!!!!!!!!

how did you make it to the interviews in US ?

 

[samyred]

I'm in the rejection thread too.

NBDE I: 97 (Dec 06)
NBDE II: 90
GPA (ECE): 2.90
TOEFL (iBT): 104
Nationality: Syrian
Work Exp: 2 Years in Syria. 4 years in France. None in the US
Applied to: (13 in total): 5 in California, BU, Tufts, UPitts, UPenn, NJ, UMN, Columbia, UMich.
Interview offered: All except UPitts (rejected).
Interviewed: Tufts, UPenn, UMN, LLU...I cancelled the rest when I recieved Tufts early acceptance .
Accepted: Tufts, UPenn, UMN, LLU.
Rejected: By a US Consular Officer who was fighting with his coffee, then he declared that my french accent is fake and I won't go back to Canada!
Going to: Any gas station in downtown Montreal

btw how do you guys from India or the middle-east make the officer digest your BS "Im gonna spent 180K in the US, and once I get my license, I'll come back to serve my people" ? Any ideas??

Hang on in there buddy... you will make it on second try.

I guess that officer chose the wrong day to quit smoking!

I was almost going to get the same treatment, but charmed my "officeress" with my deep ensorcelling voice 😛 try it ... it always works hehe

Best of luck for you man 👍

 

[elto]

😱 I can't believe it!!!! Is it possible for you to apply for visa again? How long do you have to wait for second try?
Sorry to know you are going through all this headache..... Hope everything gets resolved on time.... Keep us posted.

 

[monreal]

hi monreal,

its very sad that consuler rejected your application..thats so rude..it hurts me ..with brilliant score you got everywhere ...I am sure there must be some way out.. what exactly was his problem..must had bad day ...
he is on a good post thats why he didnt realise how much hard work is required to get score like 97 ...i can understand you must had felt very bad..i dont have much to say,but brother have faith in god he will do some arrangements..i am in downtown toronto if you need any help from here let me know.

Thanks dosanjh for your words... any ideas about the EE?

 

[monreal]

are you kidding!!!!!!!!!!!!!

how did you make it to the interviews in US ?

Unfortunately, having B1 to attend interviews doesn't guarantee getting F1 to attend school!

 

[mass]

when can you actually take the nbde exam, im goin to enter bds yr 1 in india next year.

 

[akg]

when can you actually take the nbde exam, im goin to enter bds yr 1 in india next year.

after you finish your 2nd BDS and most important is you should get an eligibility letter form Joint commission, so after 2nd BDS get a letter from the dean and apply for part 1 ....for more details log into.. www.ada.org

 

[monreal]

😱 I can't believe it!!!! Is it possible for you to apply for visa again? How long do you have to wait for second try?
Sorry to know you are going through all this headache..... Hope everything gets resolved on time.... Keep us posted.

Elto,

I can apply as many times as I want, with no time restrictions. But it may depend on what that dude wrote in my file.

The good part is that I still have some time before the program begins in April. Hopefully its gonna be just a "headache"

Samyred,

Charming the officer!....hum, good idea...it's time to get some Botox and implants!

I'll keep you posted.

 

[rtvj]

Hi Monreal,
I am sorry for what happened..that is jus terrible!
One of my friends from India had the same prb but she was joining undergrad(and this is a long time back prior to 9/11) . She was rejected first time..but she got a letter from the university stating that she had an amazing score and great potential and that they really wanted her to study at their university...I dont remember if the letter was sent directly to the consulate or to her...but u might try that way..just a suggestion. She got the student visa the second time.
Good luck!👍👍

Unfortunately, having B1 to attend interviews doesn't guarantee getting F1 to attend school!

 

[mass]

after you finish your 2nd BDS and most important is you should get an eligibility letter form Joint commission, so after 2nd BDS get a letter from the dean and apply for part 1 ....for more details log into.. www.ada.org

would u recommend doing bds in india or is it a bad idea.

 

[akg]

would u recommend doing bds in india or is it a bad idea.

it depends on various factors...i can't simply suggest somebody like that...unless i know where they want to practice dentistry eventually , and the nationality or actual place of residence...

so you need some suggestions you can come with specific questions and then may be it come to some help...

 

[mass]

it depends on various factors...i can't simply suggest somebody like that...unless i know where they want to practice dentistry eventually , and the nationality or actual place of residence...

so you need some suggestions you can come with specific questions and then may be it come to some help...

I want to practice in uk after I finish. I am a uk citizen.

 

[dds_aspirant]

Hi Monreal,

Are you a Canadian Citizen or Permanent Resident? If so then cant you find a part time job in US and come here on TN Visa? Some arrangement to work as a dental assistant on Saturdays and join school. work out something with Tufts. Be positive You still have time.


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QUOTE=monreal;6138295]I'm in the rejection thread too.

NBDE I: 97 (Dec 06)
NBDE II: 90
GPA (ECE): 2.90
TOEFL (iBT): 104
Nationality: Syrian
Work Exp: 2 Years in Syria. 4 years in France. None in the US
Applied to: (13 in total): 5 in California, BU, Tufts, UPitts, UPenn, NJ, UMN, Columbia, UMich.
Interview offered: All except UPitts (rejected).
Interviewed: Tufts, UPenn, UMN, LLU...I cancelled the rest when I recieved Tufts early acceptance .
Accepted: Tufts, UPenn, UMN, LLU.
Rejected: By a US Consular Officer who was fighting with his coffee, then he declared that my french accent is fake and I won't go back to Canada!
Going to: Any gas station in downtown Montreal

btw how do you guys from India or the middle-east make the officer digest your BS "Im gonna spent 180K in the US, and once I get my license, I'll come back to serve my people" ? Any ideas??[/QUOTE]

 

[akg]

I want to practice in uk after I finish. I am a uk citizen.

then you should be fine doing BDS in India.... you can later take MFDS A,B,C. or IQE for practicing dentistry in UK.

for further details you can do some research on FDS, MFDS, FDSGDP, IQE...

 

[mass]

then you should be fine doing BDS in India.... you can later take MFDS A,B,C. or IQE for practicing dentistry in UK.

for further details you can do some research on FDS, MFDS, FDSGDP, IQE...

its not called iqe now, called ore right. Also whats MFDS?

 

[akg]

its not called iqe now, called ore right. Also whats MFDS?

okay , never mind about MFDS at this stage ...
if you have an overseas Dental degree like BDS , then when you return UK you should sit for General Dental council exam that is ORE for getting regsitered at GDC... after that yo can comfortably practice in UK...

incase you want to become a specialist in any dental subject like ortho, pedo or oral surgery ..then you have to take MFDS (A,B,C) parts ..but according to new regulations this MFDS is going to phased out and replaced with MJDS..

so unlike in United states where you take NBDE part 1 or 2 and apply to dental school earn a dental degree like DDS/DMD , in UK its a quite straight route once you clear ORE and registered with GDC you can comfortably practice in a NHS or Private practice setting .

hope this helps

 

[starrynight]

I'm in the rejection thread too.

NBDE I: 97 (Dec 06)
NBDE II: 90
GPA (ECE): 2.90
TOEFL (iBT): 104
Nationality: Syrian
Work Exp: 2 Years in Syria. 4 years in France. None in the US
Applied to: (13 in total): 5 in California, BU, Tufts, UPitts, UPenn, NJ, UMN, Columbia, UMich.
Interview offered: All except UPitts (rejected).
Interviewed: Tufts, UPenn, UMN, LLU...I cancelled the rest when I recieved Tufts early acceptance .
Accepted: Tufts, UPenn, UMN, LLU.
Rejected: By a US Consular Officer who was fighting with his coffee, then he declared that my french accent is fake and I won't go back to Canada!
Going to: Any gas station in downtown Montreal

btw how do you guys from India or the middle-east make the officer digest your BS "Im gonna spent 180K in the US, and once I get my license, I'll come back to serve my people" ? Any ideas??

hi monreal, that's awful...so sorry..can you deffer your addmission for a year? maybe you can reapply for the visa and obtain a recomm letter of a sort, the way RTJV said, and get lucky this time...
anyway, all the best, take care

 

[mass]

okay , never mind about MFDS at this stage ...
if you have an overseas Dental degree like BDS , then when you return UK you should sit for General Dental council exam that is ORE for getting regsitered at GDC... after that yo can comfortably practice in UK...

incase you want to become a specialist in any dental subject like ortho, pedo or oral surgery ..then you have to take MFDS (A,B,C) parts ..but according to new regulations this MFDS is going to phased out and replaced with MJDS..

so unlike in United states where you take NBDE part 1 or 2 and apply to dental school earn a dental degree like DDS/DMD , in UK its a quite straight route once you clear ORE and registered with GDC you can comfortably practice in a NHS or Private practice setting .

hope this helps

hey thanks you are giving me a lot of useful information. May I ask where you graduate from and what nationality you are.

Secondly, I rang up gdc who said that sometimes the exam does not have to be taken (they look at your experience). I didnt quite understand the guy and being at a very young age i dont really get it. He was saying something about passing details to a panel and they look at workexperince, journals etc.

 

[akg]

hey thanks you are giving me a lot of useful information. May I ask where you graduate from and what nationality you are.

Secondly, I rang up gdc who said that sometimes the exam does not have to be taken (they look at your experience). I didnt quite understand the guy and being at a very young age i dont really get it. He was saying something about passing details to a panel and they look at workexperince, journals etc.

i have US PR, and graduated in 2002 Manipal , India.

if ORE is optional then you are lucky, take MJDS/MFDS and try to specialize in some field, for a better future. As far as experience is concerned you can get that in India after BDS or in UK. So don't think too much about the future, if you are so interested then start heading to Manipal or SDM dharwad. SDM dharwad has MFDS part A center. So you will meet people working towards it. Choice is yours.

Lastly, according to 2008 admission fee structure Manipal BDS will cost you 83,400 USD + expenses etc..,, 100K USD...mann in 10 yrs it doubled .

 

[monreal]

hi monreal, that's awful...so sorry..can you deffer your addmission for a year? maybe you can reapply for the visa and obtain a recomm letter of a sort, the way RTJV said, and get lucky this time...
anyway, all the best, take care

Thanks starrynight and rtvj for your advice. I sent an email to the associate dean Mr. Gonthier. I heard a lot of nice things about him. Let's see how he can help.

Yes, I can defer it to the next year, but it's too soon to talk about that😀.

dds_aspirant, I'm a PR, so TN doesn't apply.

 

[mass]

i have US PR, and graduated in 2002 Manipal , India.

if ORE is optional then you are lucky, take MJDS/MFDS and try to specialize in some field, for a better future. As far as experience is concerned you can get that in India after BDS or in UK. So don't think too much about the future, if you are so interested then start heading to Manipal or SDM dharwad. SDM dharwad has MFDS part A center. So you will meet people working towards it. Choice is yours.

Lastly, according to 2008 admission fee structure Manipal BDS will cost you 83,400 USD + expenses etc..,, 100K USD...mann in 10 yrs it doubled .

Thanks. To sit the MFDS, wouldn't you have to do MDS in india first. I had a look at dharwad in august, i found it bad for some reason. I am considering SRMC, what are your thoughts on this?. How do you think nris can settle in india. Btw are you telugu if you dont mind me asking.

 

[akg]

Thanks. To sit the MFDS, wouldn't you have to do MDS in india first. I had a look at dharwad in august, i found it bad for some reason. I am considering SRMC, what are your thoughts on this?. How do you think nris can settle in india. Btw are you telugu if you dont mind me asking.

You dont have to do MDS for taking MFDS.. i'm pretty sure about this , i know some of my colleagues in Hyderabad where i worked, have attempted and cleared Part A.
SRMC ? i think its in chennai, not a bad idea, even inquire Savitha dental college , chennai,,,got some good reviews about it.

let me tell you something you do from Manipal or SRMC or whatever, it all boils to the same point...atleast in my case, no body gives a **** about the college i have graduated from or the 5 yrs of private practice exp at back home.. part 1 , toefl, Gpa, little luck all that matters.( i am talking more of US scenario).

 

[mass]

You dont have to do MDS for taking MFDS.. i'm pretty sure about this , i know some of my colleagues in Hyderabad where i worked, have attempted and cleared Part A.
SRMC ? i think its in chennai, not a bad idea, even inquire Savitha dental college , chennai,,,got some good reviews about it.

let me tell you something you do from Manipal or SRMC or whatever, it all boils to the same point...atleast in my case, no body gives a **** about the college i have graduated from or the 5 yrs of private practice exp at back home.. part 1 , toefl, Gpa, little luck all that matters.( i am talking more of US scenario).

I visted meenakshi, saveetha and srmc in august. Initially I favoured saveetha but in UK if you want to do temporary registration saveetha is not recognised, only srmc is from chennai. What did you do after getting bds degree, did u work in india?. Also how hard is to actually read bds. I am at present doing pharmacy in uk but teaching is poor and I am finding it very hard hence am considering bds in india.

Secondly, meru telugu a 🙂

 

[akg]

damnnnn....yet another rejection 🙁🙁🙁🙁

now its Temple after UMN....so far 4 rejections....

 

[wisdom tooth]

hey akg,m relly sorry 4 the temple rejection...
do the temple people have started sending their rejections...???i have also applied there in end of december...
i havent received anything yet,not even the application completion...

 

[akg]

hey akg,m relly sorry 4 the temple rejection...
do the temple people have started sending their rejections...???i have also applied there in end of december...
i havent received anything yet,not even the application completion...

i have received rejection email...may be they thought its waste of postage and some stationary.... by sending it through regular mail..

anyway don't give up , who knows, you may get an interview letter....

 

[aspiringdentist]

Been out of SDN for a while..so missed this post.. wow! And I thought I was having a tough time! Hats off to you.. good luck ..I really hope your visa problem resolves..

Oh! almost forgot...UTHSCSA says no to me. Do they bother to send the "we are sorry to inform......" mails? 😀

I'm in the rejection thread too.

NBDE I: 97 (Dec 06)
NBDE II: 90
GPA (ECE): 2.90
TOEFL (iBT): 104
Nationality: Syrian
Work Exp: 2 Years in Syria. 4 years in France. None in the US
Applied to: (13 in total): 5 in California, BU, Tufts, UPitts, UPenn, NJ, UMN, Columbia, UMich.
Interview offered: All except UPitts (rejected).
Interviewed: Tufts, UPenn, UMN, LLU...I cancelled the rest when I recieved Tufts early acceptance .
Accepted: Tufts, UPenn, UMN, LLU.
Rejected: By a US Consular Officer who was fighting with his coffee, then he declared that my french accent is fake and I won't go back to Canada!
Going to: Any gas station in downtown Montreal

btw how do you guys from India or the middle-east make the officer digest your BS "Im gonna spent 180K in the US, and once I get my license, I'll come back to serve my people" ? Any ideas??

 

[akg]

now its NOVA SOUTHEASTERN 'S turn for rejection!!!!!
🙁🙁🙁🙁

 

[BlueBmw]

I wonder if these universities give preference to US citizens who went to dental school abroad?? what do you guys think? it makes me wonder, because people in this forum are getting fantastic scores and still getting rejections.

 

[dentalbug]

At my home got a rejection letter from tufts

Dentalbug

 

[akg]

I wonder if these universities give preference to US citizens who went to dental school abroad?? what do you guys think? it makes me wonder, because people in this forum are getting fantastic scores and still getting rejections.

i dont think US citizenship has to do anything with the preference...

rejection is a part of the admission process...and evry university has its weird selection criteria..if scores are tied , they look for gpa, if gpa is tied they look for personality, if personality is tied , they look for diversity factor...

so the bottom line is elimination process...

i met a person who was rejected every where even in NYU inspite of having 95+ but was accepted at a state university ...( i cannot disclose his/her name, school, and all personal details )

and lot many examples can be discussed, debated, whatever frm this forum...

limited seats .... multitude of applicants.... as darwin observed...

acceptance of the fittest...

 

[dentalbug]

Buffalo, UDM and UIC are the 3 universities that I know, ONLY take applications from US green card holders or US citizens.

Hope this helps

Dentalbug

 

[chato1234]

even i got rejection from nova,marquette,nyu.. i dont know how to study again for part 1.. looks like people with part 1 scores below 85 have no place to go.i scored 84 on new pattern and thinking of taking part 2.not sure if its going to improve my application for next year? anyone with suggestions.. its hard for me to study all over again for part1..

plz help..

 

[skabbaraju]

even i got rejection from nova,marquette,nyu.. i dont know how to study again for part 1.. looks like people with part 1 scores below 85 have no place to go.i scored 84 on new pattern and thinking of taking part 2.not sure if its going to improve my application for next year? anyone with suggestions.. its hard for me to study all over again for part1..

plz help..

Chato, I have been seeing people scoring in this range in the new format. And guess what, it is not helping them much in their admission process. I am preparing for Part I and due to take in June. I would like to know why you guys are disappointed about your scores and reluctant to take the exam again.? Is it coz' even after adequate prep, you failed to get a good score.? or because the exam is way too tough for an average student.? Just share your experience.

 

[akg]

even i got rejection from nova,marquette,nyu.. i dont know how to study again for part 1.. looks like people with part 1 scores below 85 have no place to go.i scored 84 on new pattern and thinking of taking part 2.not sure if its going to improve my application for next year? anyone with suggestions.. its hard for me to study all over again for part1..

plz help..

Never give up and stay in the RACE..... Try to ace part II......... You may turn tables in the next admission cycle 👍👍👍

 

[jawdoc19]

even i got rejection from nova,marquette,nyu.. i dont know how to study again for part 1.. looks like people with part 1 scores below 85 have no place to go.i scored 84 on new pattern and thinking of taking part 2.not sure if its going to improve my application for next year? anyone with suggestions.. its hard for me to study all over again for part1..

plz help..

has marquette already sent acceptance and rejection letters? any idea if they have any seats in this session?

 

[akg]

one more rejection..
its BUFFALO's after NOVA ....

come on gimme a breaaaaaaakkkkk......😴😴😴😴😴

 

[Wildflower26]

Hi Everyone,
Just wanted to tell all u guys to hang in there and not lose hope. I received a lot of support from this particular thread when i had received rejections. But I did make it and I am sure each and every one of you is going to make it. Its just gonna take some time. I especially wanted to appreciate people like akg who is always in high spirits and tries to cheer everyone. Keep up the good work...........

 

[chato1234]

Never give up and stay in the RACE..... Try to ace part II......... You may turn tables in the next admission cycle 👍👍👍

thanks a lot for the encouraging words..i haven't started studying yet for part 2. how much time do you think is good enough to score 80+ and do you think scores in low 80's is gonna help??
please help😱

 

[akg]

Hi Everyone,
Just wanted to tell all u guys to hang in there and not lose hope. I received a lot of support from this particular thread when i had received rejections. But I did make it and I am sure each and every one of you is going to make it. Its just gonna take some time. I especially wanted to appreciate people like akg who is always in high spirits and tries to cheer everyone. Keep up the good work...........

i can't help it.....life comes fast....nationwide.... rejections on my side...