I didn't get a chance to talk to as many residents while on this interview, so I'm not sure if I go the best feeling for this program. I was wondering if anyone has any more info on this program in terms of resident happiness, quality of clinical training, fellowship placement (I know they mentioned a few specialties like to take some of their own), research opportunities, etc? Or how this program compares to other southern California programs?
Loma Linda IM program
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All I can say is that I got such a bad vibe from the program that it was not even on my final rank list of 12 programs. I am not sure what it was but I just knew I didn't want to be there. Sorry can't be more helpful
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I'm currently a resident at Loma Linda and would be happy to share...
Clinical training: We're the largest tertiary care medical center east of LA (that means between LA and Phoenix, all the way north past Vegas). So we see a great deal of pathology. We have a 3 hosp system: VA = bread & butter cases, etc. Med Center: tons of outside transfers for the stuff other people couldn't figure out or got frustrated with, extremely complex patients - especially MICU/CCU. And my favorite, Riverside County....which could go head-to-head with any hosp in the US as far as pathology goes. You will never work so hard, yet feel so satisfied than when you're at county. You will deal with an incredible spectrum of pathology and a large volume - two things that will make you a good doc. Bottom line: you won't be spoon fed here. You will have the chance to see and experience a lot! The more you put into it (ie. read, explore), the more you will take out of it
Research: if you're interested in doing research with a big name person - don't come here. because it doesn't really exist. It's just not part of the mission statement of the hospital. But....if you are motivated and want to do research while you're here - there are opportunities - you just have to create them (probably true for most programs that aren't oozing publications; ie: UCSF, Hopkins, etc)
Location: leaves a little to be desired - but it depends on what you're looking for. Many of my colleagues have kids and family, and enjoy the affordable SoCal lifestyle. Personally, this is the biggest drawback for me. But I chose to be here, and thus I can't complain. The upside, is that you are close to LA, SD, beaches, etc. It just takes motivation (and gas & patience with traffic) to get there - which are often lacking when you're post-call or only have 1 day off a week.
Fellowship: We have 'em all (except Endo & ID). Our program typically goes: 1/3 fellowship, 1/3 hospitalist, 1/3 primary care. This year, 7/8 matched. The one guy who didn't is an incredibly smart guy - so not sure why he didn't match. They are friendly to their own here - usually taking ~50% from here.
Overall: I think LLU is a little hidden gem of an academic center. It's not the sexiest thing out there, but if you work hard here - you can do what you want afterwards
Clinical training: We're the largest tertiary care medical center east of LA (that means between LA and Phoenix, all the way north past Vegas). So we see a great deal of pathology. We have a 3 hosp system: VA = bread & butter cases, etc. Med Center: tons of outside transfers for the stuff other people couldn't figure out or got frustrated with, extremely complex patients - especially MICU/CCU. And my favorite, Riverside County....which could go head-to-head with any hosp in the US as far as pathology goes. You will never work so hard, yet feel so satisfied than when you're at county. You will deal with an incredible spectrum of pathology and a large volume - two things that will make you a good doc. Bottom line: you won't be spoon fed here. You will have the chance to see and experience a lot! The more you put into it (ie. read, explore), the more you will take out of it
Research: if you're interested in doing research with a big name person - don't come here. because it doesn't really exist. It's just not part of the mission statement of the hospital. But....if you are motivated and want to do research while you're here - there are opportunities - you just have to create them (probably true for most programs that aren't oozing publications; ie: UCSF, Hopkins, etc)
Location: leaves a little to be desired - but it depends on what you're looking for. Many of my colleagues have kids and family, and enjoy the affordable SoCal lifestyle. Personally, this is the biggest drawback for me. But I chose to be here, and thus I can't complain. The upside, is that you are close to LA, SD, beaches, etc. It just takes motivation (and gas & patience with traffic) to get there - which are often lacking when you're post-call or only have 1 day off a week.
Fellowship: We have 'em all (except Endo & ID). Our program typically goes: 1/3 fellowship, 1/3 hospitalist, 1/3 primary care. This year, 7/8 matched. The one guy who didn't is an incredibly smart guy - so not sure why he didn't match. They are friendly to their own here - usually taking ~50% from here.
Overall: I think LLU is a little hidden gem of an academic center. It's not the sexiest thing out there, but if you work hard here - you can do what you want afterwards
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Nothing in particular. May be it was just the interview day - the way it was set up. It's a great location (I am not fan of large cities). But you may have a totally opposite experience that I did. So if you are thinking about it, then I would recommend you go there and experience it first hand.
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I volunteered at county (I live down the street from it) and am in the process of switching to volunteer at the medical center/children's hospital, so I come in contact with quite a few medical students and residents from LLU. It's nice to hear an internal opinion about training there; it's one of my considerations for medical school. So this was really insightful. Thank you.
Hi there- Thank you so much for your detailed, informative thread. I am so happy I saw it-I may be transferring there next year as PGY2. Just wondering if you could fill me in on what the schedule would be like? Do you always work 6 dayss/wk or clinic months/elective months do you have weekends off?
Just trying to get a feel.....
Just trying to get a feel.....
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Per the schedule: it basically depends on what rotation you're on...
Medicine (at the VA, County or LLU) you will average 4-5 days off a month. You're senior usually makes the schedule - and if they're cool, will try to accommodate any requests (at least, I do). MICU & CCU (2 of your typically heavier months) - you're off q4 - so that averages out to 6-7 days a month. On electives/selectives - it just depends on your attending/fellow. But on average, at least 1 day off a week - more often than not 2 days.
Let me know if you have any other questions, and I'd be happy to answer
Medicine (at the VA, County or LLU) you will average 4-5 days off a month. You're senior usually makes the schedule - and if they're cool, will try to accommodate any requests (at least, I do). MICU & CCU (2 of your typically heavier months) - you're off q4 - so that averages out to 6-7 days a month. On electives/selectives - it just depends on your attending/fellow. But on average, at least 1 day off a week - more often than not 2 days.
Let me know if you have any other questions, and I'd be happy to answer
ok.....when you say q4 do you mean post overnight call?
i will of course find everything out when i get there but im just trying to get an idea. Ive read some negative things about it being malignant but hope that isnt case. I hope that some months are less intense than others. I know CCU and ICU are different of course and wards are expected to be touch as well....
I will have some more specific questions. Im just trying to get myself mentally prepared...
i will of course find everything out when i get there but im just trying to get an idea. Ive read some negative things about it being malignant but hope that isnt case. I hope that some months are less intense than others. I know CCU and ICU are different of course and wards are expected to be touch as well....
I will have some more specific questions. Im just trying to get myself mentally prepared...
