Love or Legacy? Pursuing my PsyD.

[psych_luxgirl]

The time has come to follow my dreams and conquer the realm of PsyD applications. I've been dreaming of this for years–ever since my undergrad in psychology–which is the very thing that fueled my fascination for mankind and ignited my passion for becoming a clinical psychologist.

But now, the grad school grind is looking less glamorous from where I stand. I am in a new chapter of my life–my early 20s, single for the past year, seeing everyone around me tying the knot and starting families. And I've finally reached the age where I have answered to my desires, to the pursuit of something wonderful with partners who are older and possess more life experience than me.

And so, doubt has started to creep in. I am no stranger to the intense school grind, dedicating 8-12 hours a day during my psych undergrad, thriving amidst the chaos. But these past semesters, I've enjoyed a taste of freedom in my master's program. Things are heavy and fast, but not too much–a perfect balance, which has allowed me to explore my passions outside of psychology. And once you've tasted something sweet, returning to the mundane grind can be challenging.

Being single, and a young woman in her 20s, I've noticed a pressure that I hadn't felt or noticed before: aging. Studying psychology, I understand the social and cultural factors at play, and know the rhetoric around anti-aging is designed to make women feel bad, and like they are the most "valuable" when young. Yet, knowing all of these things doesn't make the pressure to "settle down" diminish. One of my professors in undergrad even made a snide comment about my grad school dreams, revealing his belief that I was more suited to be a housewife. I've faced similar judgements from other men, and family in my life.

Oh, but am I just a pretty face, defined only by my beauty? A flower fades, but intellect and brains is for life. I could 'settle', and find fulfillment as an LMHC, but my heart calls for something deeper; giving others diagnostic clarity. Working on documentation, assessment, and research.. the theoretical and practical sides of psychology that are so fascinating. And I despise being restricted, and that's what I would be as an LMHC. Never living to my full potential, and only able to provide therapy and diagnoses for insurance purposes.

Still, I am a wild spirit! I refuse to let these views hold me back from pursuing something that feels.. well, eternal. Psychology is truly forever.

Seeing how many people are given poor diagnoses, irks me. I've loved my time shadowing psychologists and being given the reigns of asking assessment questions. I want to contribute to a greater societal well being. And.. I think a doctorate fits my personality. I can be a little bossy, and it wouldn't be so bad to be fit, fun, and a brainy hottie studying what I love the most and doing what I love the most. Completing grad school would be the cherry on top, but my mind has been loud with the second-guessing. Finding love for life and a partner amidst the chaos of 40-80 hours a week of grad school, and dedicating the "best years of my life" to do so.. well, that reality has been daunting, and presented me with two diverging paths; PsyD or LMHC. And wherever I go, it is a choice only I can make.

Although I am not sure what I am seeking–consolation, validation, or advice–I just needed to get this off my chest. Thank you for reading and your understanding.

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[Sanman]

Have you considered a career writing romance novels?

 

[EnPsychlopedia]

With all due respect and no snark intended, I'm not sure anything you've posted here really makes the case for you being a good fit for a doctoral program. It honestly comes across like this would be a personal vanity project (which is valid but doesn't really bode well for admissions chances). And considering that PsyD programs are, generally speaking, very expensive, that would be one pricey vanity project.

Edit: If this is satire, it's brilliant. If not, see my comment.

Second Breakfast Edit: Assuming this is not satire, it is valid to be concerned about gender-/sex-based stigmas and societal attitudes to timelines and aging and being forced to "choose" between family and career. It's gross that those pressures are applied disproportionately toward women and I'm sorry you've had experiences that reinforce these attitudes. That said, your post comes across as if you see a doctorate as just some other thing to add to your vanity collection and not something which you've genuinely put a lot of thought into or really prepared for in any tangible way.

 

[WisNeuro]

As a supervisor, this is the hardest writing style to beat out of someone.

 

[coffee&CBT]

"I am no stranger to the intense school grind, dedicating 8-12 hours a day during my psych undergrad, thriving amidst the chaos."

Honestly, this concerns me. Graduate school is nothing like undergrad.

 

[WisNeuro]

"I am no stranger to the intense school grind, dedicating 8-12 hours a day during my psych undergrad, thriving amidst the chaos."

Honestly, this concerns me. Graduate school is nothing like undergrad.

Yeah, undergraduate was about a 3/10, grad school had weeks that went to 11.

 

[BuckeyeLove]

I'm going to be very blunt. We have an epidemic of bad therapists who followed their passion (mostly LPC's, LSW's, LISW's, and pay for play doctorates in psych who somehow passed the EPPP). A scourge of sub clinical to full blown characterological folks thinking they can heal themselves and everyone else by becoming a "therapist,", when in reality just dragging down our image to the general public. You seem nice. I think you might be able to find fulfillment in another field or endeavor.

 

[cara susanna]

As a supervisor, this is the hardest writing style to beat out of someone.

On the flip side, I definitely wrote like this (heck, I even write romance stories as a hobby) and I am REPEATEDLY complimented on my intake and psych testing reports! Also helps with the GRE verbal score, lol.

OP, I can't speak to whether you'd be a good fit for a PsyD program, but generally I advise against PsyDs because they aren't worth the cost (when you could do a fully funded balanced or even clinically-focused PhD program instead). That being said, I did want to say that I met my now husband in grad school so I wouldn't let that worry alone stop me.

 

[PsyDr]

1) Grad school is NOT an accomplishment, it is PREPARATION FOR A CAREER. Do you actually want to do the day to day work of a psychologist? You wake up, go to the office, see patients for a few hours, write notes, deal with billing, take a lunch, see more patients, write more notes, deal with more billing, answer phone calls and emails, go home. Repeat for 30+ years. Is that what you want to do? Hint: this is pretty much the same advice for getting married/weddings.

2) Meeting someone is not dependent on whether you are in school or work. Physicians date and get married. IIRC, the dating research says that successful dating in women is dependent upon the amount of time they dedicate to dating. It's not that hard to meet someone, and/or get your sexual needs met.

3) Those whose self image is based upon appearance are in for a hard time. Ain't nobody look like a "hottie" for the first year or so after having a kid. Old money would laugh at "lux".

4) What do you think working life is like? You work, you come home, you do some hobbies and chores, you go to sleep. Grad school isn't that much different. Your proposed choice is 40-50hrs/week of work, or 40-60hrs/week of grad school. Few people do 80hrs/week of grad school.

5) This isn't a plan. It's not even a "concept of a plan".

6) If you want to be a housewife, then grad school is a silly idea. It's a setting that has a high percentage of women, that emphasizes career accomplishments. It's not the setting to meet someone, and it's not the setting where someone is looking for a housewife. That means it's just a bunch of debt that does not serve your particular purpose. "Hey dudes, do you want someone who has a bunch of student loan debt and doesn't want to ever work to help pay it off?". Hard pass. If you want to be a housewife, socialize in groups that have housewives (e.g., super religious people, military dudes, some parts of the south).

 

[WisNeuro]

On the flip side, I definitely wrote like this (heck, I even write romance stories as a hobby) and I am REPEATEDLY complimented on my intake and psych testing reports! Also helps with the GRE verbal score, lol.

OP, I can't speak to whether you'd be a good fit for a PsyD program, but generally I advise against PsyDs because they aren't worth the cost (when you could do a fully funded balanced or even clinically-focused PhD program instead). That being said, I did want to say that I met my now husband in grad school so I wouldn't let that worry alone stop me.

Writing like this in certain contexts is perfectly fine. Writing like this in the context of a neuropsych report, nope.

 

[R. Matey]

To answer your question directly, OP, many people are able to find and settle down with a partner while in graduate school. I agree with others though in that you haven't sketched out a compelling reason to become a psychologist in your earlier post. If you're talking about an unfunded program, this can be a significant financial risk without the career rewards you seem to think await you when you complete your training (i.e., many students from unfunded Psy.D. programs end up in master's level positions).

 

[smalltownpsych]

Some of the things you point to about gender attitudes and family and child rearing have some validity. Balancing career and family is something that we all have to do and since women tend to be the ones who give birth and are often the first choice for primary caregiver. Nevertheless, I think about 80% of new psychologists are women and they seem to be making it work and some of my colleagues and friends have done a great job finding that balance.

 

[The Cinnabon]

With all due respect and no snark intended, I'm not sure anything you've posted here really makes the case for you being a good fit for a doctoral program. It honestly comes across like this would be a personal vanity project (which is valid but doesn't really bode well for admissions chances). And considering that PsyD programs are, generally speaking, very expensive, that would be one pricey vanity project.

Edit: If this is satire, it's brilliant. If not, see my comment.

I refuse to believe this isn't satirical on some level. It's a throwback for sure, definitely makes me nostalgic for late 2000s era tumblr.

 

[cara susanna]

I refuse to believe this isn't satirical on some level. It's a throwback for sure, definitely makes me nostalgic for late 2000s era tumblr.

It's not tumblr unless there's a joke with multiple responses, and each response makes it less and less funny

 

[psych.meout]

Who is dedicating 8-12 hours per day for a psychology undergrad?

 

[Sanman]

Who is dedicating 8-12 hours per day for a psychology undergrad?

Are we including time spent in both my labs, socializing, and a 90 min daily workout on campus?

 

[quickpsych]

With all due respect and no snark intended, I'm not sure anything you've posted here really makes the case for you being a good fit for a doctoral program. It honestly comes across like this would be a personal vanity project (which is valid but doesn't really bode well for admissions chances). And considering that PsyD programs are, generally speaking, very expensive, that would be one pricey vanity project.

Edit: If this is satire, it's brilliant. If not, see my comment.

Second Breakfast Edit: Assuming this is not satire, it is valid to be concerned about gender-/sex-based stigmas and societal attitudes to timelines and aging and being forced to "choose" between family and career. It's gross that those pressures are applied disproportionately toward women and I'm sorry you've had experiences that reinforce these attitudes. That said, your post comes across as if you see a doctorate as just some other thing to add to your vanity collection and not something which you've genuinely put a lot of thought into or really prepared for in any tangible way.

You'd be surprised how many vanity/intellectual "experience" doctoral degree holders there are. Some quite literally just went because "why not" and often came from wealthy families or were in a relationship with someone in finance or tech that made enough to cover everything. Some went with some intention of going on to practice as a psychologist but then ended up just being stay at home moms, house nannies, or in another field completely. Most never even bothered to take the EPPP. Had least one of each in my own cohort in grad school and there were a few I've met through networking events in grad school or later saw them on social media sharing their life experience which did not include a career in psychology. They graduated , got the degree, and then just never went beyond that in the field.

I'd be curious how many of these are men vs women as well; in my own experience it was always a woman student who never went on to use their degree, and appears OP is also a woman. But obviously can't make assumptions, so maybe just a coincidence.

 

[R. Matey]

I'd be curious how many of these are men vs women as well; in my own experience it was always a woman student who never went on to use their degree, and appears OP is also a woman. But obviously can't make assumptions, so maybe just a coincidence.

To offer one anecdote to the contrary, I knew a guy with my degree who worked very part time. His wife was a surgeon.

 

[WisNeuro]

You'd be surprised how many vanity/intellectual "experience" doctoral degree holders there are. Some quite literally just went because "why not" and often came from wealthy families or were in a relationship with someone in finance or tech that made enough to cover everything. Some went with some intention of going on to practice as a psychologist but then ended up just being stay at home moms, house nannies, or in another field completely. Most never even bothered to take the EPPP. Had least one of each in my own cohort in grad school and there were a few I've met through networking events in grad school or later saw them on social media sharing their life experience which did not include a career in psychology. They graduated , got the degree, and then just never went beyond that in the field.

I'd be curious how many of these are men vs women as well; in my own experience it was always a woman student who never went on to use their degree, and appears OP is also a woman. But obviously can't make assumptions, so maybe just a coincidence.

I'm sure it happens, but I've literally never met anyone like this from a non-diploma mill. Even then, I can only think of one person, from one of the worst mills.

 

[R. Matey]

I'm sure it happens, but I've literally never met anyone like this from a non-diploma mill. Even then, I can only think of one person, from one of the worst mills.

The director of my kid's preschool had a Ph.D. in counseling psych from a funded program.

 

[EnPsychlopedia]

I'm sure it happens, but I've literally never met anyone like this from a non-diploma mill. Even then, I can only think of one person, from one of the worst mills.

Agreed. This isn’t happening in funded programs where just getting in is a set of hurdles that require much more dedication than one is willing to put into something that is just a vanity project.

 

[Sanman]

I'm sure it happens, but I've literally never met anyone like this from a non-diploma mill. Even then, I can only think of one person, from one of the worst mills.

I have met several from non-diploma mills, though those folks are licensed. They just have vanity jobs (think high end PP with few clients or ivy league college counseling center paying peanuts). They also all fit a profile (at least the ones I know).

 

[WisNeuro]

Agreed. This isn’t happening in funded programs where just getting in is a set of hurdles that require much more dedication than one is willing to put into something that is just a vanity project.

Yeah, like I said, I don't doubt that it has happened, just that it's not common in any quantifiable sense. Seems to be similar to the belief that people in clinical psych grad programs all came from money. Definitely not the experience from people I went to school with or my colleagues now. Vast majority were scraping by and hustling side jobs throughout grad school to get through.

I have met several from non-diploma mills, though those folks are licensed. They just have vanity jobs (think high end PP with few clients or ivy league college counseling center paying peanuts)

Sure, but how common are these people amongst all of the people you know who went through doctoral training?

 

[Sanman]

Sure, but how common are these people amongst all of the people you know who went through doctoral training?

The funded folks? I only know a couple. Folks like this from all programs? I know a decent number. That said, they all reside in major metros and I know most of them from my time in NYC, so there is a self selection bias. I am sure it is the same in CA, especially among the pay for it yourself programs.

 

[R. Matey]

Yeah, like I said, I don't doubt that it has happened, just that it's not common in any quantifiable sense. Seems to be similar to the belief that people in clinical psych grad programs all came from money. Definitely not the experience from people I went to school with or my colleagues now. Vast majority were scraping by and hustling side jobs throughout grad school to get through.

If it happens, I think it's much more likely at the master's and unfunded level than ours for the reasons you outline, Wis. Your post allowed for exceptions and I can think of some. But I wouldn't call it at all common.

 

[psych_luxgirl]

Have you considered a career writing romance novels?

No, I'd rather star in my own romance than write about someone else's... But I'll take the compliment

 

[psych_luxgirl]

With all due respect and no snark intended, I'm not sure anything you've posted here really makes the case for you being a good fit for a doctoral program. It honestly comes across like this would be a personal vanity project (which is valid but doesn't really bode well for admissions chances). And considering that PsyD programs are, generally speaking, very expensive, that would be one pricey vanity project.

Edit: If this is satire, it's brilliant. If not, see my comment.

Second Breakfast Edit: Assuming this is not satire, it is valid to be concerned about gender-/sex-based stigmas and societal attitudes to timelines and aging and being forced to "choose" between family and career. It's gross that those pressures are applied disproportionately toward women and I'm sorry you've had experiences that reinforce these attitudes. That said, your post comes across as if you see a doctorate as just some other thing to add to your vanity collection and not something which you've genuinely put a lot of thought into or really prepared for in any tangible way.

Ah, I didn't realize this was show and tell, or that I was auditioning for the role! See, I would never frame things like this to an admissions committee–I'm a bit more cunning that that.

It's not about a vanity collection, but I'll admit, I am a romantic at heart. I do enjoy sitting in front of my vanity in the mornings, getting all dolled up for my clinical internship at the hospital. Gotta balance brains with a bit of glam, right?

 

[psych_luxgirl]

"I am no stranger to the intense school grind, dedicating 8-12 hours a day during my psych undergrad, thriving amidst the chaos."

Honestly, this concerns me. Graduate school is nothing like undergrad.

Research lab, 4-5 classes, volunteering. It adds up, and I wouldn't have changed it for the world.

 

[psych_luxgirl]

On the flip side, I definitely wrote like this (heck, I even write romance stories as a hobby) and I am REPEATEDLY complimented on my intake and psych testing reports! Also helps with the GRE verbal score, lol.

OP, I can't speak to whether you'd be a good fit for a PsyD program, but generally I advise against PsyDs because they aren't worth the cost (when you could do a fully funded balanced or even clinically-focused PhD program instead). That being said, I did want to say that I met my now husband in grad school so I wouldn't let that worry alone stop me.

I giggled at reading this! well.. I'm intrigued to hear that you bring such wonder to writing intakes and psych testing reports–plus romance novels? That's impressive! I have to admit, writing intake forms can get a little tedious, though I'm lucky to have my supervisor guiding me through it. It's definitely not as exciting as your romance novels, but I suppose it's all part of the journey.

 

[psych_luxgirl]

To offer one anecdote to the contrary, I knew a guy with my degree who worked very part time. His wife was a surgeon.

Oh my! Sounds like he got a pretty sweet deal. As for me, I think I'd be more happy being the part-timer.. and marrying the surgeon.

 

[psych_luxgirl]

I refuse to believe this isn't satirical on some level. It's a throwback for sure, definitely makes me nostalgic for late 2000s era tumblr.

Oh, I am definitely a 2000s girl. Count me out of the Tumblr era though...

 

[psych_luxgirl]

1) Grad school is NOT an accomplishment, it is PREPARATION FOR A CAREER. Do you actually want to do the day to day work of a psychologist? You wake up, go to the office, see patients for a few hours, write notes, deal with billing, take a lunch, see more patients, write more notes, deal with more billing, answer phone calls and emails, go home. Repeat for 30+ years. Is that what you want to do? Hint: this is pretty much the same advice for getting married/weddings.

2) Meeting someone is not dependent on whether you are in school or work. Physicians date and get married. IIRC, the dating research says that successful dating in women is dependent upon the amount of time they dedicate to dating. It's not that hard to meet someone, and/or get your sexual needs met.

3) Those whose self image is based upon appearance are in for a hard time. Ain't nobody look like a "hottie" for the first year or so after having a kid. Old money would laugh at "lux".

4) What do you think working life is like? You work, you come home, you do some hobbies and chores, you go to sleep. Grad school isn't that much different. Your proposed choice is 40-50hrs/week of work, or 40-60hrs/week of grad school. Few people do 80hrs/week of grad school.

5) This isn't a plan. It's not even a "concept of a plan".

6) If you want to be a housewife, then grad school is a silly idea. It's a setting that has a high percentage of women, that emphasizes career accomplishments. It's not the setting to meet someone, and it's not the setting where someone is looking for a housewife. That means it's just a bunch of debt that does not serve your particular purpose. "Hey dudes, do you want someone who has a bunch of student loan debt and doesn't want to ever work to help pay it off?". Hard pass. If you want to be a housewife, socialize in groups that have housewives (e.g., super religious people, military dudes, some parts of the south).

I would feel pretty accomplished after pouring blood sweat and tears into a degree, with licensure after passing the EPPP. And get to do what I love, in some capacity, for the rest of my life. Yes, I am genuinely interested in the work, and am cognizant of the DIL. Although, I can't say that my girl body can handle doing that for the rest of my life. I could realistically grind through 5 more years of grad school, but my future husband will have to take the load off me and let me be a part timer, working to enjoy my career not just struggle and grind.

Oh! What a fantastic research blurb to pull. I didn't know that. Yes, it isn't hard for a woman to meet a man.. women are often the choosers among the plethora of suitors, no? Meeting the right man is often the challenge.

Also news flash, the new movement is housewives with degrees!!

 

[RxPsych]

I have to say, I'm thoroughly enjoying coming back to this thread between dissertation edits.

 

[psych_luxgirl]

To answer your question directly, OP, many people are able to find and settle down with a partner while in graduate school. I agree with others though in that you haven't sketched out a compelling reason to become a psychologist in your earlier post. If you're talking about an unfunded program, this can be a significant financial risk without the career rewards you seem to think await you when you complete your training (i.e., many students from unfunded Psy.D. programs end up in master's level positions).

It does seem that anything is possible, and I hope to find my partner despite going through all this training. You make a solid point about funding. But it is the least of my concerns now. I'm genuinely pondering if the pot of gold (i.e career rewards) will all be worth it at the end of the rainbow. Will this career really fulfill me in the end of all this grueling training? And perhaps I would be equally as fulfilled in a Master's path.

The students I have spoken to who attended the PsyD programs I am applying to were able to get licensed, or are on the path to do so. I would think I wouldn't let myself down in that regard... and go through all that time just to be a therapist, rather a licensed psychologist. I've heard of people retaking the EPPP 3 times to get licensed–talk about determination! It's a reminder that persistence really does pay off.

 

[psych_luxgirl]

As a supervisor, this is the hardest writing style to beat out of someone.

I can only imagine how challenging it must be to 'beat' this writing style out of someone! It sounds like quite the task–though I must admit, if it involves a bit of bending and 'beating,' I just might be up for the adventure.

 

[Mr.Smile12]

Somewhat a non-sequitur...

For crying out loud, Angel Studios is pitching this movie hard on my Facebook feed about an American doctoral student studying romance lit at Oxford and stumbling upon C.S. Lewis... (Angel Studios is a Utah-based movie distributor... my secular description of it.)

Surprised by Oxford movie review (2023) | Roger Ebert

Oxford itself, the town, the buildings, and the institution, is one of the movie’s most significant characters.

www.rogerebert.com

Take yourself away to an imagined academic world...

 

[PsyDr]

I would feel pretty accomplished after pouring blood sweat and tears into a degree, with licensure after passing the EPPP. And get to do what I love, in some capacity, for the rest of my life. Yes, I am genuinely interested in the work, and am cognizant of the DIL. Although, I can't say that my girl body can handle doing that for the rest of my life. I could realistically grind through 5 more years of grad school, but my future husband will have to take the load off me and let me be a part timer, working to enjoy my career not just struggle and grind.

Oh! What a fantastic research blurb to pull. I didn't know that. Yes, it isn't hard for a woman to meet a man.. women are often the choosers among the plethora of suitors, no? Meeting the right man is often the challenge.

Also news flash, the new movement is housewives with degrees!!

You should probably inform Radcliffe and Vassar that housewives with a degree is a new thing. Apparently they have been doing it wrong.

I encourage you to continue on your chosen path. You seem to know exactly how things work. You would not benefit from my help.

 

[WisNeuro]

I can only imagine how challenging it must be to 'beat' this writing style out of someone! It sounds like quite the task–though I must admit, if it involves a bit of bending and 'beating,' I just might be up for the adventure.

The other Dr. WisNeuro would want to weigh in on that.

Somewhat a non-sequitur...

For crying out loud, Angel Studios is pitching this movie hard on my Facebook feed about an American doctoral student studying romance lit at Oxford and stumbling upon C.S. Lewis... (Angel Studios is a Utah-based movie distributor... my secular description of it.)

Surprised by Oxford movie review (2023) | Roger Ebert

Oxford itself, the town, the buildings, and the institution, is one of the movie’s most significant characters.

www.rogerebert.com

Take yourself away to an imagined academic world...

Is the studio that exists to just put out christian propaganda>? And make sure that people like Kirk Cameron and Kevin Sorbo can still pay their mortgages?

 

[R. Matey]

It does seem that anything is possible, and I hope to find my partner despite going through all this training. You make a solid point about funding. But it is the least of my concerns now. I'm genuinely pondering if the pot of gold (i.e career rewards) will all be worth it at the end of the rainbow. Will this career really fulfill me in the end of all this grueling training? And perhaps I would be equally as fulfilled in a Master's path.

I'd say take some time to flesh out your career goals. It's not clear to me what you hope to gain from a licensable graduate degree that allows you to provide psychotherapy.

The students I have spoken to who attended the PsyD programs I am applying to were able to get licensed, or are on the path to do so. I would think I wouldn't let myself down in that regard... and go through all that time just to be a therapist, rather a licensed psychologist. I've heard of people retaking the EPPP 3 times to get licensed–talk about determination! It's a reminder that persistence really does pay off.

One failure on the EPPP is understandable due to person-specific factors. Two makes me wonder about a training deficit of some kind. Three sounds like outright incompetence. Whichever program these students are from (likely a diploma mill) should probably be avoided.

 

[cara susanna]

The other Dr. WisNeuro would want to weigh in on that.



Is the studio that exists to just put out christian propaganda>? And make sure that people like Kirk Cameron and Kevin Sorbo can still pay their mortgages?

The sad thing is that I am SO STARVED for new romance movies that I was like "huh, I'd watch that."

 

[R. Matey]

The sad thing is that I am SO STARVED for new romance movies that I was like "huh, I'd watch that."

I thought Past Lives was pretty good.

 

[Mr.Smile12]

Is the studio that exists to just put out christian propaganda>? And make sure that people like Kirk Cameron and Kevin Sorbo can still pay their mortgages?

It's not bad like some "Christian rock" was during the 90s/00s. It's not as typecast as Hallmark movies. Maybe a little restrained, but they have enough money to pay some good stars here and there.

FWIW I got on their list because I was interested in their movie "Sight" about ophthalmologist Ming Wang: Sight movie review & film summary (2024) | Roger Ebert . Then I watched their biopic of Mother Cabrini, which also had John Lithgow as the mayor of New York. Their movie on Bonhoffer will come out around Thanksgiving.

It's not so heavy on the "Christian propaganda," but everyone won't need to "save room for Baby Jesus." I think this is their first romcom that will still be mixed in with some Christian orientation... splashed with austere "academia" vibes.

 

[jdawg2017]

I feel like the original post and the replies are written by Chat GPT with the prompt “make a musing post about a college girl in psychology who is a romantic but wants to train in clinical psychology.”

Facetiousness aside, lots of people go through doctoral training and have fulfilling personal lives. I met my partner early in graduate school and while our relationship isn’t perfect, being able to share life with her has made the challenges of grad school (and internship/post-doc) much more tolerable and meaningful. I would seriously not recommend, though, attending any unfunded doctoral program (in general), but especially if you have serious intentions of not working unless you have serious family wealth or plan on marrying someone very wealthy. Even so, that money can be much better spent on something than an intellectual/vanity project.

I’ll also add that I know many LMHCs (or other master’s-level providers) whom are better providers than some psychologists that I know. I wouldn’t view that option as a “lesser than” route, though certainly your options will be somewhat more limited for work.

 

[Peacemaker36]

The OP states that she is beautiful, but she doesn't say how beautiful she is on a scale of 1-10. I really think we need a number to evaluate her plans most accurately.

 

[Ollie123]

This might be the strangest thread I've seen on this board.

And we're a weird bunch.

 

[Sanman]

This might be the strangest thread I've seen on this board.

And we're a weird bunch.

But certainly the most entertaining thing this week. It has been slow around here.

 

[smalltownpsych]

This thread is reminiscent of the posts by the dancing psychiatrist. It does seem a bit like a caricature. If not, then it is kind of insulting to the people who work extremely hard for a living and are providing treatment for real mental illness with significant mortality. Suicide rate is like 10% across the board, much higher when you look at various categories of our patients. Early mortality stats, poverty stats, victims of violent crime stats, all of it positively correlated with mental illness. I used to write very eloquently, but I don’t have time for that now because I’m too busy trying to build a business that saves and improves lives. The hardest part is not the daily grind of the work though, although that is hard enough, the hardest part is when we fail at that task and we carry the weight of that for the rest of our lives.

 

[The Cinnabon]

But certainly the most entertaining thing this week. It has been slow around here.

I predict, and hope, we may see a rise in this sort of behaviors with the rise of the "dark academia" crowd.

 

[Sanman]

This thread is reminiscent of the posts by the dancing psychiatrist. It does seem a bit like a caricature. If not, then it is kind of insulting to the people who work extremely hard for a living and are providing treatment for real mental illness with significant mortality. Suicide rate is like 10% across the board, much higher when you look at various categories of our patients. Early mortality stats, poverty stats, victims of violent crime stats, all of it positively correlated with mental illness. I used to write very eloquently, but I don’t have time for that now because I’m too busy trying to build a business that saves and improves lives. The hardest part is not the daily grind of the work though, although that is hard enough, the hardest part is when we fail at that task and we carry the weight of that for the rest of our lives.

On that topic, I think we do a terrible job as a profession. A physician does not blame themselves if a patient dies of cancer, or diabetes, or heart failure. Death is a guaranteed outcome. Improvements in quality and quantity of life with proper treatment should be the focus. Suicide and poor outcomes are not our responsibility solely.

 

[cara susanna]

I thought Past Lives was pretty good.

Past Lives is too sad for me. Ever since I started doing clinical work full-time, I really like to keep my entertainment on the light and fluffy side.