nole44

10+ Year Member
Jul 19, 2008
58
0
Status
Pre-Dental
what is the lowest DAT anyone has heard of gaining admission to dental school?
 
Jun 19, 2009
275
0
Status
If your old man has donated millions of dollars to the school your dat score won't matter.

On the flip side, one of the historically black schools admitted a black applicant with a 14AA....
 
OP
N

nole44

10+ Year Member
Jul 19, 2008
58
0
Status
Pre-Dental
lol too bad my father hasnt....wow a 14? I have an 18AA but QR is 15.....makes me wonder if ppl with similar or lowers scores have been admitted.
 

doc toothache

10+ Year Member
Jan 17, 2006
8,135
2,274
Status
Dentist
Gpa and DAT scores by themselves do not tell the entire story. An enrollee with a score of 12 that took a full load of courses and worked full time might be a better bet than an applicant with average/above average scores that was coasting through college with 9 hours/semester and no job.


http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=527690
 
Last edited:

peerless218

10+ Year Member
5+ Year Member
May 20, 2008
1,037
1
San Francisco
www.facebook.com
Status
Dental Student
what is the lowest DAT anyone has heard of gaining admission to dental school?
I saw USC's accepted student info. Someone got in last cycle with a 15AA so I guess that's the lowest stat I've seen
 

cybermech

10+ Year Member
7+ Year Member
Dec 7, 2006
270
0
Honolulu, HI
Status
Dental Student
I saw USC's accepted student info. Someone got in last cycle with a 15AA so I guess that's the lowest stat I've seen
It's one thing to get into dental school. It's another to complete it successfully. I think if you get a 15AA, this should be a red flag to you to: 1) Learn how to study properly, 2) Spend more time studying, or 3) Consider another profession.
 
Jul 2, 2009
41
0
Milwaukee, WI
Status
Pre-Dental
I'm sure there was something else going on with this 15AA. There have to be more qualified minority applicants. Some dental schools are getting 4000+ applicants a year. In this case, I would go as far to presume this person's father is on the enrollment committee, or teaches at the school. Perhaps, as someone else suggested, this student's parents donated millions to the school.

However, I can also almost understand, because how else does a school have an average DAT of 18.xx or 19.xx. There are applicants with 25+ so in order for that average to be so low something must be bringing it down.

Thoughts?
 

dennisDDS

10+ Year Member
Sep 10, 2008
248
8
Status
Dental Student
I do not know why people believe that being a minority is a free ticket in..

I know of quite a few minorities who would give a lot of you guys a run for their money... in terms of intelligence.

So stop the hate.. and just do your best =) :thumbup:
 
Jun 26, 2009
202
2
Status
Being a minority myself, I understand that low there is a misconception when it comes to admission. I cant do anything about that but try to buck the trend with my stats and hope for the best.
 
Jun 19, 2009
275
0
Status
I do not know why people believe that being a minority is a free ticket in..

I know of quite a few minorities who would give a lot of you guys a run for their money... in terms of intelligence.

So stop the hate.. and just do your best =) :thumbup:
Can't speak for others, but I'm not under the impression that they're given a "free ticket" it's just that they do seem to get in with lower stats.

Take Howard and Meharry, mean AA of 17 and 16 is pathetic. In addition to the historically black colleges, if you were to look at the overall statistics of minority applicants accepted elsewhere, you will definitely see a trend reflecting lowered expectations. I don't see how negative misconceptions of minority applicants (blacks specifically since they seem to be at the bottom in terms of numbers) are going to go away until the bar is raised.

But again, it's by no means a free ticket. I think the term "free ticket" is more applicable to legacy applicants.
 
Last edited:
Jul 1, 2009
38
0
Status
Pre-Dental
to the OP (or anyone, really): If you did poorly on the DAT and have the time/money to retake, you should retake. It's a large part of your application and probably the part that takes the least time to manipulate.

Definitely easy to spend 2 months studying and taking the DAT than a year improving your ECs with research or several years in a program to boost your gpa.
 
OP
N

nole44

10+ Year Member
Jul 19, 2008
58
0
Status
Pre-Dental
I'm sure there was something else going on with this 15AA. There have to be more qualified minority applicants. Some dental schools are getting 4000+ applicants a year. In this case, I would go as far to presume this person's father is on the enrollment committee, or teaches at the school. Perhaps, as someone else suggested, this student's parents donated millions to the school.

However, I can also almost understand, because how else does a school have an average DAT of 18.xx or 19.xx. There are applicants with 25+ so in order for that average to be so low something must be bringing it down.

Thoughts?

I thought the same thing but at the same time these applicants must have HIGH gpa's and crazy shadowing/volunteer hours.

As for being a legacy, my father went to creighton and has been an active alumni. Never the less, i got waitlisted there last year. guess he should have given more money over the years!
 

dennisDDS

10+ Year Member
Sep 10, 2008
248
8
Status
Dental Student
Can't speak for others, but I'm not under the impression that they're given a "free ticket" it's just that they do seem to get in with lower stats.

Take Howard and Meharry, mean AA of 17 and 16 is pathetic. In addition to the historically black colleges, if you were to look at the overall statistics of minority applicants accepted elsewhere, you will definitely see a trend reflecting lowered expectations. I don't see how negative misconceptions of minority applicants (blacks specifically since they seem to be at the bottom in terms of numbers) are going to go away until the bar is raised.

But again, it's by no means a free ticket. I think the term "free ticket" is more applicable to legacy applicants.
I do agree that AA 17 is pretty bad but you must understand that not every person with a AA25 is going to be a great dentist. Yes they will breeze through dental school in terms of intellectual basics but most of the time (and this is purely generalized) they are horrible in clinic. After watching some hot shots at a free dental clinic I am pretty shocked at their lack of care. Now on the same token there will be AA25 who will be great dentist and I commend them for that.

Meharry and Howard are such a small population if you look at everyone matriculating.
 

Dental Mom

10+ Year Member
7+ Year Member
May 19, 2005
457
4
Status
Gpa and DAT scores by themselves do not tell the entire story. An enrollee with a score of 12 that took a full load of courses and worked full time might be a better bet than an applicant with average/above average scores that was coasting through college with 9 hours/semester and no job.


http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=527690
And how much does that count when schools make a decision? I thought schools don't "care" about your personal life that *much* to accept you because you had to work, take classes and take care of a family......my grades have "suffered" in the past because I have a family to take care of...I never thought that schools consider that :(