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[accidental]

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I thought you guys might be interested in this stuff - it's the only way i've been able to get through my classes -www.waterjoe.com. I swear I have no affiliation with them at all - its great stuff if your tired of soda and coffee. It has a slight aftertaste so I just dillute it with regulater water and you can't tell the difference. You can order online also if you can't find it in your area.

 

[MarkFitzsimmons]

I try to stay as far away from caffiene as I can. Especially in coffee and tea. . . stains the teeth, haha.

 

[UBTom]

My preferred elixir for overnight cramming: Diet Dew and vitamins.

Diet Dew: Loaded with caffeine, no sugar, does not have an aftertaste like diet coke/pepsi, won't rot your teeth. Usually 99 cents for a 2 liter bottle at my local supermarket. One bottle will last all night.

3.75 years so far in dental school, haven't failed a single exam yet.. 😀

I would note that I did not have to pull many all-nighters because I tend to study ahead. The dental student should use caffeine only as a weapon of last resort-- It won't do your reputation any good if your hands tremble while you are working on a patient!

 

[ShawnOne]

"Just try to relax!"

*your hand violently shaking as you lower the drill towards a patient's mouth*

 

[aphistis]

Originally posted by ShawnOne
"Just try to relax!"

*your hand violently shaking as you lower the drill towards a patient's mouth*

Man, Shawn--you're joking now, but I've had to completely abandon caffeine on lab days, just because having a cup of regular coffee in the morning STILL leaves me too twitchy to do my best in the lab after lunch. So it's decaf and caffeine-free Diet Coke three days a week for me 😴

 

[groundhog]

If you have any crowns, don't bet your dental health on diet soda's. The acid can eat away the seal at the margins. If you still need your fix, taking diet soda via straw will help somewhat.

 

[Zurich5]

I thought you were talking about vodka... H2Joe or whatever it is isn't horrible. I know of some football and cycling teams that have used small amounts of it heavily mixed in with water.

 

[UBTom]

Hey Groundhog,

The thing with diet soda is that it decreases the intensity and your exposure time to acid attack vs. regular sucrose-sweetened soda.

Sucrose is the stuff that will stick to teeth and allow colonization of Strep Mutans (via synthesis of sticky glucan matrix). Because it sticks to your teeth long after you finished drinking, sucrose-sweetened drinks will expose your teeth to acid attack for a long time.

This stuff is absent from diet soda, so whatever acid attack from the diet soda (carbonic acid) is transient and pretty minor in comparison, and gets diluted quickly by normal salivation.

The Zinc Oxide Phosphate and Glass Ionomer cements used to lute crowns onto prepped teeth actually dissolve over time in natural saliva whether or not you drink diet soda... Can't be helped, unfortunately.

So don't worry... Enjoy a diet soda! I'd much prefer my patients to drink diet soda than stuff like coffee, regular soda, or orange juice... Unless you suffer from phenylketonuria of course... 😀

The worst drinks that will compromise crowns would be sugared drinks and VERY acidic drinks, like orange juice (pH 3.5). If you drink OJ like three times a day every day, you WILL get acid-mediated erosion on your teeth, similar in appearance to people who suffer from GERD and anorexia.

HTH!

 

[ShawnOne]

I've actually COMPLETELY cut coffee from my diet. I am a much calmer and nicer person now 🙂

 

[trypmo]

But isn't phenylalanine a neurotoxin? I've heard various things floating around about this, but have not seen solid evidence as yet -- anybody have any links to share on this topic?

And also: my caffeine form of preference is penguin mints, homepage at www.peppermints.com, and also www.thinkgeek.com has a large variety of tasty caffeinated products other than the mints.

I dunno what the pH of a penguin mint sitting on a tooth is, but my guess it that it would be a bit higher than that of sodas & OJ. You don't really even have to let it (or the mint/saliva mixture) touch the teeth all that much, provided you're willing to forego crunching on them (which, I must say, is immensely satisfying). Mints instead of drinks also mean a less frequent need to micturate, and thus longer bouts of study possible without the interruption of an unruly bladder calling to be emptied. Far more practical.

Not like I've thought this out or anything... 😀

 

[accidental]

Being a computer guy, second to www.mulletsgalore.com, www.thinkgeek.com is one of alltime best website on the internet. Any webiste that has a whole section dedicated to caffeine products (like caffeinated soap) is worth checking out.

I haven't tried the mints yet but I really don't mind taking a break to micturate. I might check those out. Do you know how much caffeine is in each one?

 

[trypmo]

Originally posted by accidental
Being a computer guy, second to www.mulletsgalore.com, www.thinkgeek.com is one of alltime best website on the internet. Any webiste that has a whole section dedicated to caffeine products (like caffeinated soap) is worth checking out.

I haven't tried the mints yet but I really don't mind taking a break to micturate. I might check those out. Do you know how much caffeine is in each one?

Three of them have as much caffeine as one typical soda (about 50mg).

Have you tried Jolt gum? Two pieces (one serving) have as much caffeine as a cup of coffee (about 100mg). It's okay if you're able to brush right afterwards, cause it has SUGAR (yeech!) and after I chew it I just feel those teeth rotting out.

As for beverages, I must admit my favorite is Bawls. I'd be sucking them down incessantly (sugar be damned) if they weren't so bloody expensive.

 

[Jack Worthing]

Originally posted by UBTom

The Zinc Oxide Phosphate and Glass Ionomer cements used to lute crowns onto prepped teeth actually dissolve over time in natural saliva whether or not you drink diet soda... Can't be helped, unfortunately.


HTH!

Gosh! I hope the PhD researchers in Biomaterials develop some cement that's more resistant to erosion by saliva. But I guess they've been trying hard, and this is why "Implants" are regarded by many as a much better treatment (although more expensive).

Originally posted by UBTom

The worst drinks that will compromise crowns would be sugared drinks and VERY acidic drinks, like orange juice (pH 3.5). If you drink OJ like three times a day every day, you WILL get acid-mediated erosion on your teeth, similar in appearance to people who suffer from GERD and anorexia.

HTH!

Well, not so if you brush three times a day!!! 😉 (no, I don't have data to support this.. yet)... Or maybe rinse heavily right afterwards with water....

On that note.. don't you think Tequila shots (with the lemon and salt) are bad for your teeth too? 😀

 

[aphistis]

Originally posted by Jack Worthing
Gosh! I hope the PhD researchers in Biomaterials develop some cement that's more resistant to erosion by saliva. But I guess they've been trying hard, and this is why "Implants" are regarded by many as a much better treatment (although more expensive).

Well, not quite. The dental implants themselves aren't complete replacement teeth, just the root portion. On the surface of the implant is an abutment to which you have to cement a crown just as if you'd prepped a natural tooth. Thus, you still have the problem of salivary erosion to wrestle with.